Colt Expanse 1/7 14.5" M4 SOCOM Colt Barrel (P&W Vortex) Chrome-lined Bore & Chamber

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FLAME SUIT ON


CE2000HB: $682, including TAX, Title & Fees.


1/7 14.5" M4 SOCOM Colt Barrel (P&W Vortex) Chrome-lined Bore & Chamber.


I'll change the gas tube.


FREE Offer from Colt for 30 rd PMAG, & Tru-glo Red-dot site with Riser.



Mine was bought through Davidson's via Gallery of Guns. Should pick up Wednesday, or Thursday.


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$745 was the out the door price for the Non Chrome-lined version.

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FREE TruGlo Red-dot Site with Riser, & PMAG!!!

Offer Extended through May 31st.

[Joelski]

As long as it bang-bang, and not "FUKING KA-BLAMM!" You should be as well-off as any other shooter. This isn't so much a group to run off the cliff with "Get home safe" and shit like that. You will find some extended pinky shooters, but they really do shoot and not just photograph stuff and polish it and put it back in the safe until the next photo session.

Champagne costs whatever the drinker can afford to pay.

[UWone77]

A lot of people like the Expanse because they want the "M4Carbine" Marked Colt lower and then dump the upper. The upper doesn't seem to be consistent as they keep changing from real Colt upper parts to non-Colt. You never seem to know what you're going to get with the Expanse.

[Former11B]

A lot of people like the Expanse because they want the "M4Carbine" Marked Colt lower and then dump the upper. The upper doesn't seem to be consistent as they keep changing from real Colt upper parts to non-Colt. You never seem to know what you're going to get with the Expanse.

Basically this. That'd be all I want from it.

[gatordev]

Basically this. That'd be all I want from it.

It's not worth it. Even the lower isn't normal Colt manufacturing quality, probably because it wasn't manufactured by Colt (though I can't prove that).

[GOST]

Look forward to hearing how she shoots.

[Sancho Panza]

Picked mine up this afternoon, but, you're gonna have to be patient on the pics, as ole missus doesn't know...

Square Forge Marked Upper = Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises

4U486 Stock = P&S Products

6 Pos'n Tube (Some 6920/6720 only have 4)

Hammer is Regular Hammer, Not Low-mass.

[FortTom]

My gun wants to kill your gun!:mad:

My gun said just kidding, go buy a big 'ol box of surplus ammo and shoot the hell out of it and have fun!

FT[:D]

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Have a 16.1", but 17.1" ???

[FortTom]

Cool pic of a box. Now pull that bitch out and take a picture that we can all enjoy[:D]

FT

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No Colt on the padlock? Ergo Grip on the chamber flag?

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Handguards have 7 Holes: may, or may NOT be Colt.

Skinny Handguards, Good!!! My Twin 11 year olds, Lee & Jackson, can't get their hands around the Double shielded M4 handguards.

Saved me having to buy a pair, separately.

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Neither Colt LE6920, nor AR6720 Current Production come with any type Colt Mag; but, rather a 20 rd PMAG, or, maybe a 30 rd PMAG.

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Colt on Mag Body with Okay Cage Code, & Colt Floorplate.

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F marked FSB.

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Fletch <B>1

Opposite Side FSB Markings.

NO Side Sling Adapter, but, this one is rubber coated; I prefer this style, & have a side sling adapter on hand, in case I change my mind...

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NOT a Colt A2 Pistol Grip; but does have stainless washer & flat-head screw.

New Colt A2 Pistol Grip, as a Tank Gunner sez "On the Way". No charge.

[UWone77]

Interesting. I've never seen Colt Offer a 14.5" barrel in a complete gun before with a non-A2 FH.

I bought 2 Colt OEM1's a few months back for $690. I think that's the way to go for how Colt prices have come down at this point if you want to be sure you get a Colt upper.

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Six (6) Pos'n Stock Tube; many LE6920 & AR6720's only have 4 Pos'n...

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Square Forge Upper = Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises. Comes on Military Contract M4's & Detachable Carry Handles...

Not M4 marked.

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No H mark on buffer.

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Light Blue insert with Small Black O Ring.

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Chrome-lined Full Auto Bolt Carrier

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4U486 is on recent LE6920 & AR6720's.

Not High Quality H2O.

Will replace.

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The Circle 1 some people sell at a premium, came with my R6600 AR15A2 HBAR, along with another not marked that way...

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2 of these Colt 5/20 Mags came with my R6601 Sporter HBAR.

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Notice any quick improvements???

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That ring won't allow "Fix, Bayonets."

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M4 feed ramps on the UPPER & Colt Barrel.

They test fired it to cya.

Why couldn't they test Clean, LoL? Still needs bore brush & a patch, or 3.

But, the bore & Chamber are without doubt, Chrome-lined.

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Staked down at every notch.

[gatordev]

Can you show a picture of the lower, roll-mark side, along with the QR code? I'm curious to see the machining compared to my supposed "M4 Carbine" marked lower.

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OK, hope these are clear enough.

P. S. You in P'cola?

[Sancho Panza]

Summary:

• Will replace Gas Tube; if not up to SPEC (Already have a Genuine Colt, if needed)

• Will replace A2 Pistol Grip with Grey Powder Finish Genuine Colt (Cost to me $0)

• Will replace Waffle (Sub-Contractor) Stock with old school Genuine Colt

• Will have Collar Machined Off, so I may mount a Bayonet

• Will buy Square Forge Detachable Carry Handle at my leisure

Bottom Line:

• Will buy another, nex' time ole missus isn't looking...

[gatordev]

OK, hope these are clear enough.

P. S. You in P'cola?

A little fuzzy, but I get the idea. Looks like it's the same basic machining that mine has that isn't what all of my other 6920s look like. Not the end of the world when you know you're buying an Expanse, but a bit frustrating when you thought you were buying a 6920 lower.

Not P'cola, Jax. Although I was stationed at Whiting as both a student and then later as an IP.

[Sancho Panza]

I'll go outside, when the sun angle is right, tomorrow morning & take some more...


[noob] Aimed at Moi, not anyone else.

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Here are some more:

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iPhone Photos Outside

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Tablet Photo Outside

[Eric]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xUnGhScNX24

[Sancho Panza]

Thanks, doesn't review this particular model = FAIL.

Here's a link to a short video that does:

https://youtu.be/-yabuzvREcA

Another (not a review, but, rather, an unboxing):

https://youtu.be/oIsPuSWHyNE

[Eric]

I would have no problem going out and shooting the crap out of one of those, but it's unfortunate Colt took this route. Non-Colt parts mixed with Colt parts, assembled by other than Colt. That does not mean that it's necessarily of poor quality, but a lot of folks will not make the distinction between the Expanse line and the regular Colt product.

[UWone77]

I would have no problem going out and shooting the crap out of one of those, but it's unfortunate Colt took this route. Non-Colt parts mixed with Colt parts, assembled by other than Colt. That does not mean that it's necessarily of poor quality, but a lot of folks will not make the distinction between the Expanse line and the regular Colt product.

The Expanse for a lack of a better term is crap.

It's a Colt lower with a mish mash of parts bin extra for an upper. Reminds me of the Colt Competition Series.

Colt OEM1's and 2's are sub $700, which to me is the only way to go if you want a Colt.

[Sancho Panza]

Colt OEM1's and 2's are sub $700, which to me is the only way to go if you want a Colt.

Perhaps not if you want a 14.5"? LE6921 might be a better choice.

I've have a 6920 for about 20 years, only back then, the only Civilians who could legally own the whole carbine were Peace Officers.

So, I bought the AR6920DC, which was the Conversion Kit, i. e. Complete Upper & Manual, with the restricted mags stolen by CDNN.

[gatordev]

It's a Colt lower with a mish mash of parts bin extra for an upper. Reminds me of the Colt Competition Series.


That's what I've been getting at. It's not even a Colt lower. The last "Colt" lower I bought was apparently an Expanse take-off (based off of the parts and manufacturing). The manufacturing itself is not the standard Colt quality and I wouldn't be surprised if it was done by the TX/Colt Competition company.

The lower functions fine, but even fitment isn't the same. I'll shoot it until I die, but it was frustrating to figure out what I bought after it was too late.

[Joelski]

The lower functions fine, but even fitment isn't the same. I'll shoot it until I die, but it was frustrating to figure out what I bought after it was too late.

Aha! The same element as the piston debate; you knew and bought anyway. Rolling the dice when the odds seem hard to beat, regardless of what others say is a human element! [:)]

[UWone77]

That's what I've been getting at. It's not even a Colt lower. The last "Colt" lower I bought was apparently an Expanse take-off (based off of the parts and manufacturing). The manufacturing itself is not the standard Colt quality and I wouldn't be surprised if it was done by the TX/Colt Competition company.

The lower functions fine, but even fitment isn't the same. I'll shoot it until I die, but it was frustrating to figure out what I bought after it was too late.

When they first came out, I handled 2 or 3 of them as I was considering a purchase. The lowers seemed to be the same as my other M4Carbine Colt Lowers. I don't know if they've changed over the production run, like the uppers have. At the time, it was painfully obvious the upper was suspect. Markings, quality, crap handguards, ect.

Ended up passing until I could find OEM's in stock.

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Texas Colt Competition Company by all accounts is Tango Uniform; and yet, the FAIL YouTube video gentleman sez the Lower itself is the SAME as current production Colt...[pop]



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Texas Colt Competition Company by all accounts is Tango Uniform; and yet, the FAIL YouTube video gentleman sez the Lower itself is the SAME as current production Colt...[pop]



That's what we're trying to say. The Expanse is inconsistent from run to run.

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True, dat. [:)]

Providence, with some investigation, in my case:


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[gatordev]

Aha! The same element as the piston debate; you knew and bought anyway. Rolling the dice when the odds seem hard to beat, regardless of what others say is a human element! [:)]

No, that's not what I'm saying. What I bought was advertised as a "M4 Carbine-marked lower," which at the time, wasn't coincident with an Expanse lower. I thought I was buying a new 6920 lower at the normal 6920 lower price point. When I got it, I noticed things were different, but I accepted the transfer. Then I did a little research and found it had all of the elements of an Expanse (machining and FCG, with a slight fitment issue) because, as UW just said, the productions runs aren't consistent. Not much I could do at that point, so i pressed on and started shooting it. But it was still annoying.

[Sancho Panza]

Would you be so kind as to post pics of yours, for comparison?

Thank you.

[Joelski]

No, that's not what I'm saying. What I bought was advertised as a "M4 Carbine-marked lower," which at the time, wasn't coincident with an Expanse lower. I thought I was buying a new 6920 lower at the normal 6920 lower price point. When I got it, I noticed things were different, but I accepted the transfer. Then I did a little research and found it had all of the elements of an Expanse (machining and FCG, with a slight fitment issue) because, as UW just said, the productions runs aren't consistent. Not much I could do at that point, so i pressed on and started shooting it. But it was still annoying.

Check. I remember lots of talk of this on another forum at the time. Too risky, IMO and reflective of the times Colt has fallen on.

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One last pic, before the upgrades begin...

HDR Pic:

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Expanse A2 Hard, Slippery, & Shiny Pistol Grip on Left.

Genuine Colt A2 Pistol Grip (LE6920 OEM-1 Take Off) on Right.

Softer, Firm, with a Powder Grey Finish.

My Carbine Feels & Looks Much Better already.

Courtesy of DonFlynn.

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FWIW a DPMS Oracle I just reviewed had the same upper

[Dstrbdmedic167]

FWIW a DPMS Oracle I just reviewed had the same upper

Glad to see you here again!


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[Sancho Panza]

FWIW a DPMS Oracle I just reviewed had the same upper

May be where the odd parts came from?

[Former11B]

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2 of these Colt 5/20 Mags came with my R6601 Sporter HBAR.

If you need a legit Colt 30rd USGI mag, let me know

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If you need a legit Colt 30rd USGI mag, let me know

Can always use another one; want my snailer?

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Couple of more Bolt Close-up Pics, per Request:


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6920 on Left, CE2000HB on Right...

[UWone77]

Couple of more Bolt Close-up Pics, per Request:


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6920 on Left, CE2000HB on Right...

What kind of Camera are you using to take these blurry wonders? A 2005 Disposable? [:D]

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The kind of camera that was inside, bc of rain, but, see if these 2 are any better...taken outside:








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Once again, 6920 on Left, CE2000HB on Right...

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[Eric]

The $55 Truglo RDS might appeal to the target audience I suppose. Nothing wrong with an extra Pmag.

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One of my 11 year old boys loves it; but, he's gonna learn with irons first.

Even then, it will prolly end up on a .22; even if only used with my M261 u.S. Army Surplus .22 conversion kit.

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One piece Mag Catch = NOT Colt