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Big_Tom
19 June 2017, 18:54
Hi guys and gals

I'm currently working on a couple of special builds. I'm wanting to make them both light and compact as possible. So I going to go with a Faxon GUNNER 14.5" barrel and have the muzzle device pinned and welded.

I would really like to find a MD that is no bigger than .625 thick. So I can remove the FSB and handguard without having to remove the MD.

The smallest one found so far is the CMT 556 ZCOMP and which is .632

Any help would much appreciated and thanks before hand.

Tom

Evintos
19 June 2017, 19:08
Faxon makes a pin and welded barrel combo that fits your criteria.

http://faxonfirearms.com/16-legal-slim-perm-3-port-brake-14-5-gunner-5-56-nato-mid-length-4150-qpq/
http://faxonfirearms.com/16-legal-slim-perm-flash-hider-14-5-gunner-5-56-nato-mid-length-4150-qpq/

UWone77
19 June 2017, 19:09
A few years ago I recall that they used to make a .750 diameter muzzle device so you could remove the gas block without having to take off the muzzle device.

I doubt there is enough material to do a .625

Not sure where you got the ZCOMP is .623, it's definitely much larger than that.
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UWone77
19 June 2017, 19:10
Faxon makes a pin and welded barrel combo that fits your criteria.

http://faxonfirearms.com/16-legal-slim-perm-3-port-brake-14-5-gunner-5-56-nato-mid-length-4150-qpq/
http://faxonfirearms.com/16-legal-slim-perm-flash-hider-14-5-gunner-5-56-nato-mid-length-4150-qpq/

Well shit, there you go. I was wrong, they do have .625 options.

Big_Tom
19 June 2017, 19:18
A few years ago I recall that they used to make a .750 diameter muzzle device so you could remove the gas block without having to take off the muzzle device.

I doubt there is enough material to do a .625

Not sure where you got the ZCOMP is .623, it's definitely much larger than that.
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This is the one I was talking about dont know what I read.

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EO3
19 June 2017, 19:23
This is the one I was talking about dont know what I read.


Yeah for some reason their site lists both as the ZCOMP, just refers to the larger one that UWone was referencing as the Linear ZCOMP.

Big_Tom
19 June 2017, 19:25
Faxon makes a pin and welded barrel combo that fits your criteria.

http://faxonfirearms.com/16-legal-slim-perm-3-port-brake-14-5-gunner-5-56-nato-mid-length-4150-qpq/
http://faxonfirearms.com/16-legal-slim-perm-flash-hider-14-5-gunner-5-56-nato-mid-length-4150-qpq/

I knew they had them but didnt realize they were smaller than .625

This maybe the route I take. Ill have to see where the Google rabbit hole takes me.

thanks

Dstrbdmedic167
19 June 2017, 19:26
If I were gonna go the 14.5" route and not want to be tied to 1 rail(barrel nut) and Muzzle device for good I'd look at what was posted above from Faxon. It's exactly what you're looking.

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Big_Tom
19 June 2017, 19:47
If I were gonna go the 14.5" route and not want to be tied to 1 rail(barrel nut) and Muzzle device for good I'd look at what was posted above from Faxon. It's exactly what you're looking.

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Its not really the fact I want to be able to change the rail. But one of these builds will need the barrel assembly including fsb and md cerakoted. So thats kind of the dilemma. I would like to have the pin and weld done before cerakoting.

I figured the cerakoting where the pin and weld took place wouldnt fair well if done after it was applied. If it would then ill just stick with a normal md.

BoilerUp
19 June 2017, 21:15
Another option: https://www.atf.gov/file/11281/download

Big_Tom
19 June 2017, 21:28
Another option: https://www.atf.gov/file/11281/download


Yes that would be a option but the time frame these builds need to be completed by and atf's speedy lead time dont make it so. I plan on doing it for a 300blk build I want to do in the future so I may just go ahead and get the ball rolling at least.

fledge
20 June 2017, 06:32
Reading over the thread, BT, I'm not sure what you're ultimately trying to do. But you can have the cerakote and pinning done in one shop, if that's what you are after.

Big_Tom
20 June 2017, 10:41
Reading over the thread, BT, I'm not sure what you're ultimately trying to do. But you can have the cerakote and pinning done in one shop, if that's what you are after.



Sorry it's kinda confusing I know. So here's the shorthand version.

I can have the pin and weld done locally for nothing (Guy owes me a favor or two). I'm trying to make it easy for the cerakote guy so all he has to do is Cerakote parts and not worry about having to assemble or disassemble parts. I then get parts back and slap them together.

That's pretty much it.

fledge
20 June 2017, 11:29
My best recommendation is to have it done in the same shop. For example, Axlnut can silver solder the muzzle device for cheap (compared to pin/weld) and make sure it's all painted and installed in the right order.

I'd reach out to him unless you are set in using a different painter.

Big_Tom
20 June 2017, 12:33
My best recommendation is to have it done in the same shop. For example, Axlnut can silver solder the muzzle device for cheap (compared to pin/weld) and make sure it's all painted and installed in the right order.

I'd reach out to him unless you are set in using a different painter.

I had a couple different painters in mind to use. The cost factor is going to be the biggest factor on who I use. Both guns will get painted but only one needs the barrel assembly painted. I still lack a few more parts to purchase before Im ready for paint.

Then again looking at barrel specs I may go with the Faxon 14.5" Socom barrel its only 1.50lbs and the Gunner is 1.20lbs. I doubt that 5oz will matter that much.

So since the CMT combat comp is small enough to have permanently attached and wont interfere with fsb install.

BoilerUp
20 June 2017, 14:28
If 5 oz doesn't matter, then why does 1.5 inches? The 14.5 SOCOM weights more than the 16" gunner.

This seems like way more consternation than 1.5" of barrel length warrants.

Big_Tom
20 June 2017, 23:58
I didn't really realize the 16" was that light.

So another idea even though I want them as close to the same set up. Is the one that needs barrel painted is to install a 16" on it. And a go with the 14.5" on the other.

I know for a fact the 16" rifle won't be shot nearly as much as the 14.5". That's mainly because of who will be receiving it. Lol

fledge
21 June 2017, 11:17
Sounds like a smart plan to me.