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Deadwing
1 April 2015, 23:50
It's been a split decision on these. I like the B&W because 1. It's me lol, and 2. I think it's a Cold War look. Others though are digging on the color.

http://i.imgur.com/vWR7Pdd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/08kzGcw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dtlXEZX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PPdtecV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/l4pMczS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2Qq7uOu.jpg

I'm digging the black and white myself. Great shots.

UWone77
2 April 2015, 00:58
Just filled out a Form 1 for this, so I'm putting it in the NFA thread.

Was going to do a forged Mega Lower, but already had a 10.5" Mega Billet Upper built up as well as plans for a 12.5" on a Rifle Length MML.

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3264_zpspkdtroo8.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3264_zpspkdtroo8.jpg.html)

toolboxluis00200
2 April 2015, 11:56
Just filled out a Form 1 for this, so I'm putting it in the NFA thread.

Was going to do a forged Mega Lower, but already had a 10.5" Mega Billet Upper built up as well as plans for a 12.5" on a Rifle Length MML.

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3264_zpspkdtroo8.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3264_zpspkdtroo8.jpg.html)

nice i like your way of thinking

Deadwing
2 April 2015, 22:06
This is my latest creation. It's about as Noveske as one can get without buying a complete rifle from them. I've had this barrel sitting around since 2012, so i guess it's about time i built something with it.

Full parts list: Noveske Gen 1 lower, Noveske forged upper, Noveske 12.5" CHF barrel, Noveske 11" NSR, Noveske phospate BCG, Noveske QD end plate, Noveske marked Troy BUIS, Noveske marked Gunfighter charging handle, AAC 51T Blackout, BCM receiver extension/H2 buffer/action spring, BAD-EPS, BAD-CASS safety, Geissele SSA trigger, Magpul CTR stock, Magpul MIAD grip, Magpul enhanced trigger guard, Aimpoint T-1 riding on an ADM mount, and Colt parts finish out the LPK.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/51abfac6-f30d-44a5-9c1d-addd11971318_zpshfrs0rmr.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/51abfac6-f30d-44a5-9c1d-addd11971318_zpshfrs0rmr.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo209_zps0obnsj1z.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo209_zps0obnsj1z.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo%208_zpsicul3evr.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo%208_zpsicul3evr.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo%206_zpsgqq5ipqv.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo%206_zpsgqq5ipqv.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo%2011_zpsvafkpyaz.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo%2011_zpsvafkpyaz.jpg.html)

DutyUse
2 April 2015, 23:02
This is my latest creation. It's about as Noveske as one can get without buying a complete rifle from them. I've had this barrel sitting around since 2012, so i guess it's about time i built something with it.

Full parts list: Noveske Gen 1 lower, Noveske forged upper, Noveske 12.5" CHF barrel, Noveske 11" NSR, Noveske phospate BCG, Noveske QD end plate, Noveske marked Troy BUIS, Noveske marked Gunfighter charging handle, AAC 51T Blackout, BCM receiver extension/H2 buffer/action spring, BAD-EPS, BAD-CASS safety, Geissele SSA trigger, Magpul CTR stock, Magpul MIAD grip, Magpul enhanced trigger guard, Aimpoint T-1 riding on an ADM mount, and Colt parts finish out the LPK.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/51abfac6-f30d-44a5-9c1d-addd11971318_zpshfrs0rmr.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/51abfac6-f30d-44a5-9c1d-addd11971318_zpshfrs0rmr.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo209_zps0obnsj1z.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo209_zps0obnsj1z.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo%208_zpsicul3evr.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo%208_zpsicul3evr.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo%206_zpsgqq5ipqv.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo%206_zpsgqq5ipqv.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo%2011_zpsvafkpyaz.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo%2011_zpsvafkpyaz.jpg.html)

Awesome SBR! That's almost identical to what I'm going for with mine.. How do you like her so far? Thoughts on 12.5 barrel vs 11.5or10s?





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UWone77
3 April 2015, 00:02
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3263_zpsu2o67gzr.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3263_zpsu2o67gzr.jpg.html)

mustangfreek
3 April 2015, 01:13
Very nice DeadWing..I see you like noveske ...[:D]

Deadwing
4 April 2015, 02:31
Awesome SBR! That's almost identical to what I'm going for with mine.. How do you like her so far? Thoughts on 12.5 barrel vs 11.5or10s?

Thank you! I haven't shot it yet, but i don't expect it to be too much different from my BCM 11.5" and DD 10.3" uppers. Both of those feed and function reliably with anything i've fed them so far (running H2 buffers in those as well). I will say this thing is crazy light, feels like it'll handle quite nicely when i get to put some rounds down range. [:D]


Very nice DeadWing..I see you like noveske ...[:D]

What's not to like?! [BD]

UWone77
6 April 2015, 00:23
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3231_zpskc2b1lma.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3231_zpskc2b1lma.jpg.html)

UWone77
6 April 2015, 00:34
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_1475_zps16y9uhc2.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_1475_zps16y9uhc2.jpg.html)

voodoo_man
7 April 2015, 17:54
http://i.imgur.com/uZmR4vz.jpg

Deadwing
12 April 2015, 22:12
Not only am i a Noveske whore, i'm also a BCM whore. The SBR'd lower is a BCM4 that came complete from Bravo Company. I changed the grip to a Magpul MOE, and installed a Geissele G2S trigger, BAD-CASS selector, BCM QD end plate, H2 buffer, and B5 SOPMOD stock. The upper is a BCM with an 11.5" cold hammer forged barrel, a KAC M4 RAS and accessories, a BCM BCG, and BCM rear carry handle sight. Although technically it's an inch too long to be a true Mk18 Mod 0 clone, i'm debating getting an LMT rear sight and Aimpoint going for that look anyway. In the meantime, it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot as it is.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/DSC01468_zpsejw9wvxj.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/DSC01468_zpsejw9wvxj.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/DSC01476_zpsndjselnn.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/DSC01476_zpsndjselnn.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/DSC01478_zps2lpehfmr.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/DSC01478_zps2lpehfmr.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/DSC01481_zpsdecpcanx.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/DSC01481_zpsdecpcanx.jpg.html)

UWone77
12 April 2015, 22:21
Not only am i a Noveske whore, i'm also a BCM whore. The SBR'd lower is a BCM4 that came complete from Bravo Company. I changed the grip to a Magpul MOE, and installed a Geissele G2S trigger, BAD-CASS selector, BCM QD end plate, H2 buffer, and B5 SOPMOD stock. The upper is a BCM with an 11.5" cold hammer forged barrel, a KAC M4 RAS and accessories, a BCM BCG, and BCM rear carry handle sight. Although technically it's an inch too long to be a true Mk18 Mod 0 clone, i'm debating getting an LMT rear sight and Aimpoint going for that look anyway. In the meantime, it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot as it is.



So what you're saying is... other than the KAC RAS, there is nothing about this that's remotely like a MK18 Mod 0? [BD]

Deadwing
12 April 2015, 22:34
So what you're saying is... other than the KAC RAS, there is nothing about this that's remotely like a MK18 Mod 0? [BD]

Correct. :P

UWone77
25 April 2015, 11:26
Shot a couple hundred more through this switchblock yesterday. Liking it more and more. I'll have to shoot my clamp on SB upper after I'm done with that one.


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3317_zpsxrc5pfej.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3317_zpsxrc5pfej.jpg.html)

Dstrbdmedic167
25 April 2015, 19:00
My 300blk build with just about everything RA I think I can add too it except the safety. Hey is that a properly installed RAC? [bash]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/25/5257a97028061e77e37299c8aae37896.jpg

MoxyDave
26 April 2015, 13:54
That is a great-looking build and a superb photo. I don't often get excited by ARs, they all look the same ... but this is stylish, elegant and I imagine ... functional. Very nice!

Dstrbdmedic167
26 April 2015, 13:59
That is a great-looking build and a superb photo. I don't often get excited by ARs, they all look the same ... but this is stylish, elegant and I imagine ... functional. Very nice!

Thanks Dave. Yea this is one of my favorites. The RA Mod 2 set is awesome and paired with the 7" force rail and MFT stock it's lightweight, smooth shooting and easy to shoulder. It's one those it just feels right when you shoulder it.

Ordnance
30 April 2015, 15:15
http://i.imgur.com/nGipZ6k.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NHjp1cp.jpg

UWone77
17 May 2015, 09:23
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3438_zpsyziqdhux.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3438_zpsyziqdhux.jpg.html)

toolboxluis00200
17 May 2015, 10:18
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3438_zpsyziqdhux.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3438_zpsyziqdhux.jpg.html)

That is killer love to build another SBR like that

titanse05
17 May 2015, 14:38
Real nice blaster there UWONE77.

baboon
19 May 2015, 06:17
http://i58.tinypic.com/do88c9.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/2rh4pyc.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/2mruwzr.jpg

Received my LMT Stand Alone stock. Trying to figure out mounting the AN/PSQ 18 A. Can't really proceed until I have the M203. Hopefully I get the M203 before my birthday in July.

UWone77
19 May 2015, 23:35
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3439-2_zpsnebga6we.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3439-2_zpsnebga6we.jpg.html)

velocity2006
19 May 2015, 23:40
Very nice.

Dstrbdmedic167
24 May 2015, 17:52
UW has me beat by a long shot but here is the cans I have on hand with a Osprey45 sitting in jail....

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/NFA%20Items_zpsow2ku39h.jpg

Dstrbdmedic167
27 May 2015, 18:47
Took this shot for Alamo and UW. This is my 12.5" SBR with the AR performance barrel and 12" Rev rail from the T&E program. I dont think youll get an AAC can much closer. In fact his barrels use 5/8x24 threads regardless of caliber so this has the standard socket adapter the deep one will not work of course...

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/Rev%20Close%20up_zpsdmsmo0em.jpg

toolboxluis00200
27 May 2015, 18:55
UW has me beat by a long shot but here is the cans I have on hand with a Osprey45 sitting in jail....

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/NFA%20Items_zpsow2ku39h.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6174/6136214216_3bf2e4ab66.jpg

CarbonScoring
30 May 2015, 18:23
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8766/18097214560_d7b929cbae_b.jpg

UWone77
6 June 2015, 09:57
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3447_zpsqwtggdqg.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3447_zpsqwtggdqg.jpg.html)

Ordnance
6 June 2015, 11:39
http://i.imgur.com/P7dKMtTh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Ra8UYTyh.jpg

Former11B
6 June 2015, 11:55
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3447_zpsqwtggdqg.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3447_zpsqwtggdqg.jpg.html)

Love that setup!

UWone77
6 June 2015, 12:06
Love that setup!

Decided to try out an under the handguard setup. So far, not bad.

Dstrbdmedic167
6 June 2015, 14:20
Decided to try out an under the handguard setup. So far, not bad.

Guess you got to remove the rail to remove the can? Or can you get it something in to remove it.

UWone77
6 June 2015, 15:40
Guess you got to remove the rail to remove the can? Or can you get it something in to remove it.

Nah, I wouldn't do it if I had to remove the handguards. The 18T Spring Mount just twists on and off the mount.

Dstrbdmedic167
6 June 2015, 15:40
Nah, I wouldn't do it if I had to remove the handguards. The 18T Spring Mount just twists on and off the mount.

Cool I was wondering. I mean it's not like you couldn't dedicate it to the rifle but that's good to know.

voodoo_man
6 June 2015, 18:00
http://i.imgur.com/L9P5Ud6.jpg

Dstrbdmedic167
10 June 2015, 18:57
Almost 2000 rounds and still looked like new!

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/Silencerco%20Froglube%20copy_zpsaia6aa1d.jpg

voodoo_man
11 June 2015, 09:51
http://i.imgur.com/gcVmWIu.jpg

DontBuryMe
13 June 2015, 16:45
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/470/18103691603_04defb1e22_b.jpg

AaronP220
15 June 2015, 08:44
This is my 3rd SBR. WarSport / Cross Machine Tool 11.75" Form 1. I'm debating if I want to pull the Top Hat brake and put an AAC brake on it so I can run it suppressed. I've yet to see a suppressed LVOA.

http://i.imgur.com/UYty78o.jpg

velocity2006
15 June 2015, 08:56
Not a ton of clearance under that rail for a suppressor. Gonna be tight.

AaronP220
15 June 2015, 09:11
Not a ton of clearance under that rail for a suppressor. Gonna be tight.

Yeah, I'm not sure the SDN will even fit so it might be derailed before it starts.

toolboxluis00200
15 June 2015, 10:19
This is my 3rd SBR. WarSport / Cross Machine Tool 11.75" Form 1. I'm debating if I want to pull the Top Hat brake and put an AAC brake on it so I can run it suppressed. I've yet to see a suppressed LVOA.

http://i.imgur.com/UYty78o.jpg

That looks sick

AaronP220
15 June 2015, 11:33
That looks sick

much appreciated!

tact
15 June 2015, 19:02
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/15/db5bb593d3aab95232d53018f5f917f7.jpg

Finally found time to finish.

Munition
18 June 2015, 10:25
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8846/17435950936_d2d920b2db_b.jpg

Former11B
18 June 2015, 10:40
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/DownSouthTAS/IMG_0073%202_zpsg8xyysaa.jpg~original

UWone77
18 June 2015, 11:14
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8846/17435950936_d2d920b2db_b.jpg

The URX4 is growing on me.

Munition
19 June 2015, 10:40
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7619/16584568254_5993ca84e0_b.jpg

Slippers
19 June 2015, 11:07
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7619/16584568254_5993ca84e0_b.jpg

Saker K?

toolboxluis00200
19 June 2015, 13:21
Saker K?

Looks like it

Ordnance
19 June 2015, 19:22
http://i.imgur.com/LbKqpAph.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RWcrUJRh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zYjMCXuh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lwkfvBCh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UK3Pwffh.jpg

KevinBLC
21 June 2015, 12:22
I like the B&W better. cool pic.

MoxyDave
22 June 2015, 12:24
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44963125/Hosted%20Photos/WEVO/Rifles/IMG_3252a.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44963125/Hosted%20Photos/WEVO/Rifles/IMG_3272a.jpg

Receivers are PSA (SBR lower with my company logo), Timney 4# trigger, CMMG 22lr bolt & collar, CMMG solid charger, Taccom 4" aluminum-sleeved tensioned stainless barrel, BAD-ASS ST 45 degree selector, Magpul CTR, UCWRG Grip 23, Spikes billet trigger guard, Trijicon RM07 on ADM mount, CMMG 9mm deflector with spring-loaded hinge, TACCOM rimfire reliability kit, Black Dog & CMMG magazines, custom carbon fibre handguard cut to length, Silencerco 22Sparrow Stainless monocore suppressor.

Pistol is a Walther PPK/S in 22lr with P22 threaded adapter and Silencerco 22Sparrow stainless.

What a fun pair on the range! The SBR is very quiet, as the 4" barrel leaves standard 22LR at sub-sonic velocities. I can easily shoot a rapid 4" group at 25 yards using the 6.5moa RMR offhand. Both guns are mostly reliable until they get gummed up after a couple hundred rounds. 22LR suppressed is super dirty.

The pistol is heavy for a .22, but it's built like a tank. The craftsmanship is outstanding, and the extra weight makes it very easy to shoot well. It's not a gun I'd want to carry but dang it's awesome on the range. The trigger is fantastic in single-action mode.

I've been wanting to share these for a long time. I finally got my basement back together after the Great Floods of 2015 in Colorado (we had more rain in May than we've ever had in recorded history) so I have been fiddling with guns again ... fun times!

toolboxluis00200
22 June 2015, 13:13
Nice 22sbr

toolboxluis00200
22 June 2015, 14:31
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/538/18442826714_20b7a1d281_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/u6JiQW)16 upper (1 of 1)-21 (https://flic.kr/p/u6JiQW) by Luis f (https://www.flickr.com/photos/toolboxluis/), on Flickrhttps://c1.staticflickr.com/1/329/18444674943_2610194ec7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/u6TMfX)16 upper (1 of 1)-22 (https://flic.kr/p/u6TMfX) by Luis f (https://www.flickr.com/photos/toolboxluis/), on Flickr

toolboxluis00200
22 June 2015, 14:37
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/368/19059760572_3f313a8b13_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/v3ffMA)16 upper (1 of 1)-18 (https://flic.kr/p/v3ffMA) by Luis f (https://www.flickr.com/photos/toolboxluis/), on Flickr

Munition
23 June 2015, 10:40
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7314/16178611699_56551fc6c4_b.jpg

navyis2
24 June 2015, 12:33
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/cfaulkner0006/20150614_160740_zpsrgrdezzb.jpg

Ordnance
25 June 2015, 09:02
http://i.imgur.com/Hdh5G1dh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ICRFgkXh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ynsqjS0h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UGZ2cAVh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EqqvCYTh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ef3NCTYh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uoFRDrRh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zxksBOwh.jpg

Dstrbdmedic167
27 June 2015, 15:52
Changed things up a little bit. Jury is still out... But after looking at this pic I thinkg I should have called it 50 shades of FDE... I might have to fix that...

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/Umbrella%20New%20Build_zpskygdady1.jpg

toolboxluis00200
27 June 2015, 15:56
U need to send it to me for proper testing

Dstrbdmedic167
27 June 2015, 16:12
U need to send it to me for proper testing

Haha just a form 4, $200 for the stamp. And then the $200 to return it to me sure lol.

toolboxluis00200
27 June 2015, 16:51
Haha just a form 4, $200 for the stamp. And then the $200 to return it to me sure lol.
lol ok the upper

UWone77
27 June 2015, 16:55
Changed things up a little bit. Jury is still out... But after looking at this pic I thinkg I should have called it 50 shades of FDE... I might have to fix that...

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/Umbrella%20New%20Build_zpskygdady1.jpg

Something about that mount just doesn't make that gun look right. It really needs a Bobro or a Micro on a Scalarworks.

Dstrbdmedic167
27 June 2015, 17:00
Something about that mount just doesn't make that gun look right. It really needs a Bobro or a Micro on a Scalarworks.

I won't argue that at all. It was just a reconfig of parts as my original plan didn't work at all. Was curious how the scope would look on it. I think my reserves about it are what you mentioned. I had the eotech on here with the STR. I'd love to have a bobro or micro/SW setup.

Former11B
28 June 2015, 13:37
Something about that mount just doesn't make that gun look right. It really needs a Bobro or a Micro on a Scalarworks.


The height over bore is way off but the rear eye relief looks set up well. A lot of people set the scopes way too far back on ARs

Dstrbdmedic167
28 June 2015, 13:52
The height over bore is way off but the rear eye relief looks set up well. A lot of people set the scopes way too far back on ARs

It's just a dry fit to see how things run. However This is the scope and mount I used on the T&E rifle and it worked well on it. I'm probably gonna go back with the eotech.

alamo5000
28 June 2015, 13:54
The height over bore is way off but the rear eye relief looks set up well. A lot of people set the scopes way too far back on ARs


I was always told that the scope should line up roughly with the charging handle. Not behind it... but not way out in front of it either.

alamo5000
28 June 2015, 13:55
It's just a dry fit to see how things run. However This is the scope and mount I used on the T&E rifle and it worked well on it. I'm probably gonna go back with the eotech.

What is the height over bore?

UWone77
28 June 2015, 14:04
The height over bore is way off but the rear eye relief looks set up well. A lot of people set the scopes way too far back on ARs

I completely agree with you. I've seen some crazy scopes mounted way too far back. I wonder how they get a proper cheek weld on their stocks.

alamo5000
28 June 2015, 14:11
I completely agree with you. I've seen some crazy scopes mounted way too far back. I wonder how they get a proper cheek weld on their stocks.


I'm just asking so that maybe I can learn a little something but what is the right way? Wouldn't the forwardness sort of depend on the type of optic and shooting style/type of shooting?

Former11B
28 June 2015, 14:57
I'm just asking so that maybe I can learn a little something but what is the right way? Wouldn't the forwardness sort of depend on the type of optic and shooting style/type of shooting?

Let me try to explain it. Since it's an AR, with the optic mounted, eye relief needs to be measured from the charging handle forward in a similar fashion as the iron sights. This allows proper charging handle clearance and also allows the shooter proper position behind the rifle from cheek weld on back.

Here's a helpful illustration:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/DownSouthTAS/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsyx7v2uid.jpg


Also, height over bore is the distance between the center axis of the rifle bore and the middle of the scope objective lens. I try to keep mine as low as possible; a scope cap barely fits on my objective lens it's so low

toolboxluis00200
28 June 2015, 15:09
This is what u need
https://flic.kr/p/v3hLwD

alamo5000
28 June 2015, 16:01
Let me try to explain it. Since it's an AR, with the optic mounted, eye relief needs to be measured from the charging handle forward in a similar fashion as the iron sights. This allows proper charging handle clearance and also allows the shooter proper position behind the rifle from cheek weld on back.

Here's a helpful illustration:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/DownSouthTAS/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsyx7v2uid.jpg


Also, height over bore is the distance between the center axis of the rifle bore and the middle of the scope objective lens. I try to keep mine as low as possible; a scope cap barely fits on my objective lens it's so low


Based on that information I could move my scope up about 1 or maybe 2 spaces. I only have 3 spaces available going forward. On mine right now the very back tip of the eye cup is about even with the charging handle.

I wonder what I would gain by moving it forward 1/2 inch or so...

Former11B
28 June 2015, 16:17
Based on that information I could move my scope up about 1 or maybe 2 spaces. I only have 3 spaces available going forward. On mine right now the very back tip of the eye cup is about even with the charging handle.

I wonder what I would gain by moving it forward 1/2 inch or so...

I understand; sometimes you've got functional limitations but I try to be as close to "right" as I can. On one rifle, my ACOG mount is as far forward as it can get but the length has the rear lens only about 1/2" forward. But that model of ACOG (TA-11) has probably the most forgiving eye relief of any optic I've used.

alamo5000
28 June 2015, 16:30
I understand; sometimes you've got functional limitations but I try to be as close to "right" as I can. On one rifle, my ACOG mount is as far forward as it can get but the length has the rear lens only about 1/2" forward. But that model of ACOG (TA-11) has probably the most forgiving eye relief of any optic I've used.

I have the option to move mine forward... so I am just kind of wondering what is to be gained by doing it. Would I just be able to lean more into my shots or what?

The specs on my scope says it has a 4" eye relief so I technically could put it up some if it's worth it.

I mounted my scope where I did based off of google and internet advice. What THEY said was basically 'go back as far as you can without interfering with your charging handle'...

I am just curious if it will give me better body position or what.

gatordev
28 June 2015, 17:16
It also depends on how you shoot your rifle. NTCH is one way, but not always THE way to shoot, depending on the optic. Some respected guys run their stock all the way out and advocate that. Personally, with my long arms, I find a happy medium for RDS, but for magnified optics, I'm more concerned about how it fits when prone, which for me, is the most "demanding" position for eye relief. I then adjust the stock based on what I need for other shooting positions (sitting, standing, etc).

Then there's the Elcan, which claims to have better relief than an ACOG, but I've found it to be no better when at 4x, which causes it to sit pretty far back with a 4 position stock at the first click...at least for me.

Former11B
28 June 2015, 18:30
It also depends on how you shoot your rifle. NTCH is one way, but not always THE way to shoot, depending on the optic. Some respected guys run their stock all the way out and advocate that. Personally, with my long arms, I find a happy medium for RDS, but for magnified optics, I'm more concerned about how it fits when prone, which for me, is the most "demanding" position for eye relief. I then adjust the stock based on what I need for other shooting positions (sitting, standing, etc).

Then there's the Elcan, which claims to have better relief than an ACOG, but I've found it to be no better when at 4x, which causes it to sit pretty far back with a 4 position stock at the first click...at least for me.

I understand NTCH isn't the only way to shoot a rifle but it's sort of how the AR/M16 series was designed. I don't touch my nose to it anymore but it's very close and as long as I've shot the rifle I'm fairly certain I get the same sight picture/cheek weld. If I have any doubts, I can always throw the index finger up there and verify I'm a fingertip width away. One reason I don't like the PRS stock is because the built in cheek pad forces you to set your gun up in one way only; there's no room for adjustment and even at the lowest setting you need some seriously high rings to see through a scope.

And there's no way possible for Elcan to claim that realistically given the different models of ACOG. It would be hard pressed to beat the -11 or -33 series.

gatordev
28 June 2015, 19:01
Yeah, like I said, I think there's a happy medium, and for magnified optics, I put my head in the same place you describe, or as best I can. I was just mentioning another method for Alamo, since he's concerned about the "right" way to mount the gun, and I'd argue there's lots more variables than just a one-size-fits-all spot.




And there's no way possible for Elcan to claim that realistically given the different models of ACOG. It would be hard pressed to beat the -11 or -33 series.

I mean the -01 and the -31, which are both 1.5". Elcan claims ~2.5", but it feels almost about as close as my TA-01NSN in order to not get scope shadow.

Ordnance
29 June 2015, 09:00
http://i.imgur.com/txc2dWVh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uxSrT3Mh.jpg

Dstrbdmedic167
29 June 2015, 19:13
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/300Blk%20rebuild-2_zpsusxbuhzz.jpg

toolboxluis00200
29 June 2015, 19:48
The suppressor is as long as the rifle lol

Dstrbdmedic167
29 June 2015, 19:54
The suppressor is as long as the rifle lol

Lol not quite but close. I may get another smaller more compact one soon.

Jerry R
30 June 2015, 09:07
http://i.imgur.com/uxSrT3Mh.jpg

Very nicely done !

Would loved to have seen a "ketchup" stain somewhere along an edge of this shot [BD]

Ordnance
30 June 2015, 09:09
Very nicely done !

Would loved to have seen a "ketchup" stain somewhere along an edge of this shot [BD]

Lol... my friend and I were actually talking about doing some medic type shots to play around with fake blood.

SINNER
30 June 2015, 10:03
Come over to Baltimore. Just about every abandoned building has bodily fluid stains and chalk outlines.

Ordnance
30 June 2015, 21:42
Come over to Baltimore. Just about every abandoned building has bodily fluid stains and chalk outlines.

That would be funny if it wasn't bordering on truth...

Munition
7 July 2015, 10:39
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7602/17030196135_8ac5cbe14f_b.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8830/16839375984_35297baa9b_b.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7766/18213016676_d686de64ff_b.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7577/16327852891_afd0f9d1ac_b.jpg

Aragorn
7 July 2015, 10:46
That's a sweet rig

Munition
8 July 2015, 11:20
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3854/15240909212_d227797df1_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3912/14897715288_cf1f83d401_b.jpg

Munition
8 July 2015, 11:21
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/16178941627_2609248991_b.jpg

UWone77
8 July 2015, 11:34
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/16178941627_2609248991_b.jpg

How quiet is she?

Former11B
8 July 2015, 12:19
How quiet is she?

Either way, that bolt is a hell of a racket.

I'm not a huge fan of OSS suppressors. Good on back pressure...not so great on dB...big on price tag. For my needs, a more traditional can and an adjustable gas block is sufficient.

UWone77
8 July 2015, 12:35
Either way, that bolt is a hell of a racket.

I'm not a huge fan of OSS suppressors. Good on back pressure...not so great on dB...big on price tag. For my needs, a more traditional can and an adjustable gas block is sufficient.

I agree with you, which is why I asked how quiet the gun was. OSS great for lefties with back pressure/blow back, but not up to par with traditional baffle stack designs on sound reduction.

Dstrbdmedic167
9 July 2015, 11:01
Messing around at work today with a few pics I took last night of the new Osprey. My dealer hooked me up with an engraving while I was there since they didn't come with a flag as originated. I like it..

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/Osprey%20Comp_zpsydmqgdry.jpg

toolboxluis00200
9 July 2015, 11:05
That is cool

SINNER
9 July 2015, 11:31
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3854/15240909212_d227797df1_b.jpg



What's the deal with that carbon wrapped barrel on a Desert Tech?

velocity2006
9 July 2015, 12:19
Believe those are Proof Research barrels. Seem to be showing up on a few different builds lately.

GOST
9 July 2015, 15:18
Messing around at work today with a few pics I took last night of the new Osprey. My dealer hooked me up with an engraving while I was there since they didn't come with a flag as originated. I like it..

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/Osprey%20Comp_zpsydmqgdry.jpg

Very nice, great pic James.

Dstrbdmedic167
9 July 2015, 15:18
Very nice, great pic James.

Thanks man.

Dstrbdmedic167
9 July 2015, 16:08
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/Glock%20Sup1_zpsfaqdz3zf.jpg

GOST
9 July 2015, 16:31
It makes that G19 look like a G42.

Dstrbdmedic167
9 July 2015, 16:48
It makes that G19 look like a G42.

It does shrink it down a bit In size comparison, however, it feels well balanced in the hand.

Cotton68spc
9 July 2015, 17:24
That is awesome have you shot it yet


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Dstrbdmedic167
9 July 2015, 17:39
That is awesome have you shot it yet


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I have and it's pretty quiet. Very pleasant to shoot using 147gr FMJ's

UWone77
9 July 2015, 23:01
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3502_zpsahqovf5e.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3502_zpsahqovf5e.jpg.html)

CarbonScoring
10 July 2015, 08:06
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/357/19354982600_9b7dea04a7_b.jpg

SINNER
10 July 2015, 11:29
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/357/19354982600_9b7dea04a7_b.jpg

My Omega is in lock down as we speak. How do you like it?

UWone77
10 July 2015, 21:08
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3500_zpsuodaxzzx.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3500_zpsuodaxzzx.jpg.html)

MoxyDave
11 July 2015, 14:17
Love this one man, that is pretty much my ideal config. All the right parts in all the right places! [:)]

tact
11 July 2015, 16:01
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/11/da13cf8333ca0845cb0806f34e43dd6f.jpg

Cotton68spc
11 July 2015, 16:03
My saker762 and the only bikini model my wife would let me use http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/11/f0b096a63a6319fdcb77b20f845588fe.jpg


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toolboxluis00200
11 July 2015, 16:10
My saker762 and the only bikini model my wife would let me use http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/11/f0b096a63a6319fdcb77b20f845588fe.jpg


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Lol. But cool idea

Cotton68spc
11 July 2015, 18:53
Lol. But cool idea

Lol thanks I think she thought I wouldn't do it and I didn't plan on uploading but once I got done with I liked


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toolboxluis00200
11 July 2015, 19:01
Lol thanks I think she thought I wouldn't do it and I didn't plan on uploading but once I got done with I liked


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I need forgetting to do mine

UWone77
13 July 2015, 22:43
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3501_zps1agqiyhy.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3501_zps1agqiyhy.jpg.html)

officerX
14 July 2015, 21:50
My first ever 2 stamp Tuesday! (I'm pretty excited!). Still some minor changes to make but this is basically how it's going to stay.

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa393/officerfrasher/9560734C-2C02-4641-AC83-CC140BAF4847_zpspbgfrbi5.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa393/officerfrasher/730B8C78-FD4A-45F2-8525-116800737E83_zps6lgaaamg.jpg

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa393/officerfrasher/E44029B4-B5F0-4892-B367-BDE8804E20BE_zpsbwxevk6v.jpg

Cotton68spc
15 July 2015, 05:17
Nice


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GOST
15 July 2015, 05:25
Very nice OfficerX, is it a 300BO?

officerX
15 July 2015, 13:37
Very nice OfficerX, is it a 300BO?

That one's 5.56. I have a 9" AAC 300blk upper as well, saving my pennies to get a can for it as well.

toolboxluis00200
15 July 2015, 13:40
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/11/da13cf8333ca0845cb0806f34e43dd6f.jpg

Man love to shoot it

Former11B
16 July 2015, 07:50
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/357/19354982600_9b7dea04a7_b.jpg

Does that Anchor Brake create any additional signature akin to muzzle blast?



http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/11/da13cf8333ca0845cb0806f34e43dd6f.jpg



Love that Parallax Tactical rail. Is that the 13" version? I've got the big daddy...17.5" [wow]

alamo5000
16 July 2015, 18:37
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_3502_zpsahqovf5e.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_3502_zpsahqovf5e.jpg.html)

Can I ask a stupid question?

What is the tan thing on your rail?

UWone77
16 July 2015, 18:41
Can I ask a stupid question?

What is the tan thing on your rail?

ATPIAL-C

alamo5000
16 July 2015, 18:45
ATPIAL-C

I had to google it.

http://tnvc.com/shop/l3-insight-atpial-c-class1-ir-laser/

Damn it. Now I want one. Crap! Sometimes I hate this place [BD]

voodoo_man
16 July 2015, 20:06
http://i.imgur.com/FuvQ8g3.jpg

GOST
16 July 2015, 20:15
Very nice Voodoo, that is the best looking rifle I've seen yet with the BAD Saber Tube.

voodoo_man
16 July 2015, 20:16
Very nice Voodoo, that is the best looking rifle I've seen yet with the BAD Saber Tube.

Thanks, its a work in progress.

I think I'll be removing the sabertube though. Put it on another SBR.

Former11B
17 July 2015, 06:08
I had to google it.

http://tnvc.com/shop/l3-insight-atpial-c-class1-ir-laser/

Damn it. Now I want one. Crap! Sometimes I hate this place [BD]

Why do you want one?

I would have called it a PEQ-15 but thats just a difference in .Mil and Civ designation.

alamo5000
17 July 2015, 06:20
Why do you want one?

I would have called it a PEQ-15 but thats just a difference in .Mil and Civ designation.

I for sure don't need it, and especially for $1200 bucks. [BD]

BUUUTT if I had one, and a set up to use it ...when my suppressor comes, I could do some serious night time damage on some pigs....

Just thinking out loud of the cool factor.... its pretty low on the totem pole of things I need.

Jerry R
17 July 2015, 06:55
.... its pretty low on the totem pole of things I need.

I'm not really sure "need" ever comes into play here [:D] I can't remember the last time I bought a firearm or accessory out of need. Real bad case of the "wants" maybe !! I am probably the world's worst impulse buyer.

alamo5000
17 July 2015, 07:10
I'm not really sure "need" ever comes into play here [:D] I can't remember the last time I bought a firearm or accessory out of need. Real bad case of the "wants" maybe !! I am probably the world's worst impulse buyer.

It's on my "when I get $15 million dollars iin the bank" list.

UWone77
17 July 2015, 07:20
I for sure don't need it, and especially for $1200 bucks. [BD]

BUUUTT if I had one, and a set up to use it ...when my suppressor comes, I could do some serious night time damage on some pigs....

Just thinking out loud of the cool factor.... its pretty low on the totem pole of things I need.

A buddy and I were talking about doing a nighttime Helicopter shoot with NOD's and PEQ's next year. Seems like TX is the type of state perfect for that.

alamo5000
17 July 2015, 07:31
A buddy and I were talking about doing a nighttime Helicopter shoot with NOD's and PEQ's next year. Seems like TX is the type of state perfect for that.

For sure. Tell me if you want to do it. I can possibly set you up. But iit will be BYONV. (Bring your own night vision) lol

There is no season on pigs. Any time day or night you can kill em in Texas and with any set up you want. Suppressors, night vision, thermal, what ever you got... The real trick to the helicopter thing is finding a place big and open enough to shoot like that. Central, South, and West Texas are the places to go.

Because it requires so much space the ranchers charge a serious premium for helicopter shooting.

Let me know though and I will see if I can hook you up.

Former11B
18 July 2015, 07:31
I for sure don't need it, and especially for $1200 bucks. [BD]

BUUUTT if I had one, and a set up to use it ...when my suppressor comes, I could do some serious night time damage on some pigs....

Just thinking out loud of the cool factor.... its pretty low on the totem pole of things I need.



Getting a high quality night vision device should be just ahead of a PEQ15 on the list ;)

tact
18 July 2015, 18:36
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/18/ba393e3556d6110dcfde25d3ebba4906.jpg

UWone77
18 July 2015, 18:37
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/18/ba393e3556d6110dcfde25d3ebba4906.jpg

Nicely executed tact.

Ordnance
18 July 2015, 20:53
http://i.imgur.com/iqwCcSph.jpg

velocity2006
19 July 2015, 08:32
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/18/ba393e3556d6110dcfde25d3ebba4906.jpg

Rail looks familiar lol.

tact
19 July 2015, 09:26
Rail looks familiar lol.

Yeah, I'm stuck with it for a bit until I can work on the one I want. Sorry I dinged it up, you would've most likely had a better use for it.

Jerry R
22 July 2015, 09:13
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/pdogkilr/Firearms/Glock%2021/IMG_0853%20G21%20with%20Poseidon_zps17xrchbx.jpg~o riginal

Cotton68spc
22 July 2015, 09:22
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/22/18d3c3f80a48d7d3be575d34007c7cd1.jpg


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Cotton68spc
23 July 2015, 11:37
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/bbe747c8aecef72a1cd866b2f8194978.jpg


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toolboxluis00200
23 July 2015, 13:49
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/22/18d3c3f80a48d7d3be575d34007c7cd1.jpg


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Nice

Dstrbdmedic167
24 July 2015, 13:17
Installed the Magpul MOE-SL on my 12.5' SBR. Also thought i'd try to run the MFT sights on it for a bit.. If it doesn't work out I may pick up another PA Microdot for it...

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/UCWRG-SL_zpszyykse6n.jpg

velocity2006
24 July 2015, 14:14
Dat rear sight placement...

Dstrbdmedic167
24 July 2015, 14:24
Dat rear sight placement...

Well it can't go back anymore without interfering with the charge handle...

GOST
24 July 2015, 14:33
Let me know what you think of the SL.

Dstrbdmedic167
24 July 2015, 14:44
Let me know what you think of the SL.

Well i'll put it like this. The last time I shot with Slippers I used his quite a bit. Now I have one... It's very tight on the buffer tube. So tight in fact I thought I was gonna have to use some lube to get it on. It's of course heavier than the MFT stock but still throws up great and feels very solid. Feels like a Magpul should!

officerX
24 July 2015, 16:35
Installed the Magpul MOE-SL on my 12.5' SBR. Also thought i'd try to run the MFT sights on it for a bit.. If it doesn't work out I may pick up another PA Microdot for it...

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Dstrbdmedic167/UCWRG-SL_zpszyykse6n.jpg

How you you feel about PA red dots? I want a high quality RD but don't want to pay an arm/leg/left nut. What about the Vortex Sparq 2?

Dstrbdmedic167
24 July 2015, 16:39
How you you feel about PA red dots? I want a high quality RD but don't want to pay an arm/leg/left nut. What about the Vortex Sparq 2?

I haven't had any range time with it as I just got it today. Saying that, initial impressions are good and purchased it after reading the reviews from other members here that I trust. As others have stated I think it'll be a great range optic which is all I'm looking for.

I have the original Sparc and it has severed me well. I'd say you can't go wrong with either and if you're looking at the Sparc the advanced red dot is supposedly a bit nicer than the standard microdot.

UWone77
24 July 2015, 16:40
How you you feel about PA red dots? I want a high quality RD but don't want to pay an arm/leg/left nut. What about the Vortex Sparq 2?

Surprisingly both the PA and SPARC line of optics have surprised me with their ruggedness. Checkout the member submitted review section for PA optic reviews.

officerX
24 July 2015, 16:44
I haven't had any range time with it as I just got it today. Saying that, initial impressions are good and purchased it after reading the reviews from other members here that I trust. As others have stated I think it'll be a great range optic which is all I'm looking for.

I have the original Sparc and it has severed me well. I'd say you can't go wrong with either and if you're looking at the Sparc the advanced red dot is supposedly a bit nicer than the standard microdot.


Surprisingly both the PA and SPARC line of optics have surprised me with their ruggedness. Checkout the member submitted review section for PA optic reviews.

What's a good magnifier to pair up with either of these guys?

Dstrbdmedic167
24 July 2015, 16:47
What's a good magnifier to pair up with either of these guys?

I can't add to this since I've never used one but I am curious myself.

velocity2006
24 July 2015, 16:51
Well it can't go back anymore without interfering with the charge handle...

I'm just messing with you [BD]

officerX
24 July 2015, 16:57
I can't add to this since I've never used one but I am curious myself.

I loved the EOTech RD/Mag combo that I had, that I sold to fund another item. I'd like to have it again but I don't want to spend that much again.

Cotton68spc
24 July 2015, 18:17
What's a good magnifier to pair up with either of these guys?

Vortex makes a great 3x Mag IMHO


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officerX
24 July 2015, 21:38
Added the MFT BMS, BCM VFG and BCM Keymod rail covers today. Just waiting on an optic!

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa393/officerfrasher/3A7A3B42-F4ED-47BF-B933-08D43C847708_zpsx74izojb.jpg

officerX
24 July 2015, 21:56
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa393/officerfrasher/FE32FE3B-326D-469E-A017-CC4E7380FF0C_zpst6tekqyu.jpg

Ride4frnt
25 July 2015, 05:47
What's a good magnifier to pair up with either of these guys?

Contact RobSWVA on here and see what his opinions are on the vortex magnifier. He bought a vortex setup off of my brother, through me.

GOST
25 July 2015, 06:03
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa393/officerfrasher/FE32FE3B-326D-469E-A017-CC4E7380FF0C_zpst6tekqyu.jpg

I like the looks of the forged upper with the RA Ultramatch lower.

officerX
25 July 2015, 07:19
I like the looks of the forged upper with the RA Ultramatch lower.

Good eye! The upper, barrel, gas block and BCG are RA too.

Ordnance
25 July 2015, 13:50
http://i.imgur.com/qPa7q4mh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dkFw2y6h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cMsDl8rh.jpg

Cotton68spc
1 August 2015, 19:47
My First SBR

nothing special but one day I'll have a nice billet set to show for now she will do http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/01/038f7f5d5f47864e0ed5366a74e7a199.jpg


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UWone77
1 August 2015, 19:57
My First SBR

nothing special but one day I'll have a nice billet set to show for now she will do http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/01/038f7f5d5f47864e0ed5366a74e7a199.jpg


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I don't care what anyone says, I like running 1-4 optics on SBR's.

Cotton68spc
1 August 2015, 20:04
Being that I target shoot and hunt more than anything else I'll take a 1-4 over a red dot any day JMHO


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UWone77
1 August 2015, 20:05
Being that I target shoot and hunt more than anything else I'll take a 1-4 over a red dot any day JMHO


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Is that the upper you're trying to get a different handguard on? What length is that?

toolboxluis00200
2 August 2015, 08:20
My First SBR

nothing special but one day I'll have a nice billet set to show for now she will do http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/01/038f7f5d5f47864e0ed5366a74e7a199.jpg


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Congrats

Cotton68spc
2 August 2015, 11:20
Is that the upper you're trying to get a different handguard on? What length is that?

Yes it's a 10.5 barrel and a 10 inch hand guard


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Jerry R
2 August 2015, 11:42
nothing special http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/01/038f7f5d5f47864e0ed5366a74e7a199.jpg

I wouldn't say "nothing special" -- looks like a very nice build to me.

Cotton68spc
2 August 2015, 12:04
I wouldn't say "nothing special" -- looks like a very nice build to me.

Thanks Jerry I'm happy with it for the most part I want to change the rail and get some backup sights


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Cotton68spc
5 August 2015, 04:57
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/05/12289e1e247bfe98708c75696607e611.jpg


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Ordnance
17 August 2015, 15:52
I like the B&W, but I keep getting ribbed that my colors are better, so, lol. I was playing around with natural light...

http://i.imgur.com/5Mh3mN6h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oABf6Xih.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/I7VbN9Jh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Ci25AmPh.jpg

alamo5000
17 August 2015, 18:51
I don't care what anyone says, I like running 1-4 optics on SBR's.

I run a 1-4 on my 16" but I am curious as to why you say that about the SBR combo?

GOST
17 August 2015, 18:59
Most consider a SBR a CQB, so in their opinion they only need a RDS.

Farva
21 August 2015, 19:42
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/e5088029418bcfab5b9007a0d66cf286.jpg
Updated look at the thin blue line SBR

GOST
21 August 2015, 19:53
Looks good, that Trijicon MRO is gonna look good on there.

SINNER
21 August 2015, 19:56
I don't care what anyone says, I like running 1-4 optics on SBR's.

My favorite SBR has an ACOG. I plan on keeping a 1-4 on my SCAR 16 once it's engraved.

alamo5000
21 August 2015, 20:33
Most consider a SBR a CQB, so in their opinion they only need a RDS.

Yeah I see that. I guess 'CQB' can mean a number of things. Based on my research a 12.5" 5.56 SBR it should still be pretty effective out to 4 or 500 yards. That's still very good. The blackout with subs, not so far. I'm guessing about 200 yards for subsonic 300.

Uwone said he liked 1-4x on an SBR and I can see that working just fine in many cases. That said as far as my theoretical SBR ownership I am leaning towards a 1x RDS or something like that. Of course I am still learning, but I would think an SBR excels at helping clear rooms, ducking behind cars, getting in and out of vehicles or whatever. On the surface it seems like it would make the platform a lot more flexible (of course given that you are gonna do all that stuff).

I think an RDS is pretty standard fare but then Uwone went all contrarian on us [BD]

Ordnance
21 August 2015, 22:48
Based on my research a 12.5" 5.56 SBR it should still be pretty effective out to 4 or 500 yards.

There's a difference between capable and effective. Capable yes, effective not really. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have under perfect conditions done so, but I can guarantee you that given any real type of wind or external forces, they'll see they're accuracy drop greatly. And, at 4-500 they're accuracy is likely 2+MOA. there's a reason you don't see SBRs run in comps. That said, some people just prefer magnified optics because of the more exacting precision it affords.

gatordev
22 August 2015, 12:24
I'd be far less concerned about what's effective for others and figure out how you want to use the gun. My guess is the reason UWone likes a variable 1-4 is because of the job he does, where being able to recon a position far more than shoot at one, but still have the ability to be precise if needed AND be able to clear a room, if needed. But as a cop, there's far less shooting than observing (I hope, anyway).

If you want your SBR to run 'n gun in close, just get a RDS. There's no substitute. Want to extend it out to 200-300? Maybe look at a variable or a TA-31 style optic. But it really depends on how you want to use it.

alamo5000
22 August 2015, 13:07
I'd be far less concerned about what's effective for others and figure out how you want to use the gun. My guess is the reason UWone likes a variable 1-4 is because of the job he does, where being able to recon a position far more than shoot at one, but still have the ability to be precise if needed AND be able to clear a room, if needed. But as a cop, there's far less shooting than observing (I hope, anyway).

If you want your SBR to run 'n gun in close, just get a RDS. There's no substitute. Want to extend it out to 200-300? Maybe look at a variable or a TA-31 style optic. But it really depends on how you want to use it.

The solution to all this is to have more than one SBR :)

gatordev
22 August 2015, 15:06
That was pretty much my solution.

Cotton68spc
23 August 2015, 09:30
I like the 1-4 because of my astigmatism which makes an RDS look like a blur I can still hit with them but not as precise as a 1-4 even only on 1 power


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Ordnance
25 August 2015, 19:55
For all the full on fun button fans...

http://i.imgur.com/3oClxx8h.jpg

UWone77
25 August 2015, 20:13
For all the full on fun button fans...

http://i.imgur.com/3oClxx8h.jpg

It's all about the 3rd pin!

Nice Pic.

Ordnance
27 August 2015, 11:38
I had a little bit of time to snap some quick shots in-between. Not exactly my greatest work, but still having fun lol...

http://i.imgur.com/Q6MYeZBh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BihNnfxh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UrPaRwwh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HjaKrSTh.jpg

toolboxluis00200
7 September 2015, 16:20
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5691/21042555809_9795b85466_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/y4sAJn)upper 16 (1 of 1)-12 (https://flic.kr/p/y4sAJn) by Luis f (https://www.flickr.com/photos/toolboxluis/), on Flickrhttps://farm1.staticflickr.com/623/20608249543_e10b348c0c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xp5EBi)upper 16 (1 of 1)-13 (https://flic.kr/p/xp5EBi) by Luis f (https://www.flickr.com/photos/toolboxluis/), on Flickr

navyis2
24 September 2015, 16:10
The specwar K sure is tiny
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/cfaulkner0006/20150924_170327_zpslqfmvy1w.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/cfaulkner0006/20150924_171105_zpsr75l8uqd.jpg

DutyUse
24 September 2015, 16:12
The specwar K sure is tiny
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/cfaulkner0006/20150924_170327_zpslqfmvy1w.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/cfaulkner0006/20150924_171105_zpsr75l8uqd.jpg

Nice cans ;)

Have you got to use the spec k yet? Thoughts?

navyis2
24 September 2015, 16:48
Not yet, I just picked it up today. If there is any interest I can do a little write up when I hit the range.

Dstrbdmedic167
24 September 2015, 17:10
Not yet, I just picked it up today. If there is any interest I can do a little write up when I hit the range.

I'd like to see that. I almost got a K last time I was at my dealer.

UWone77
25 September 2015, 16:40
The more I shoot suppressed 5.56, the more I realize it's still F'ing loud, so I don't mind using shorter cans to mitigate blast and flash.

toolboxluis00200
25 September 2015, 16:46
The more I shoot suppressed 5.56, the more I realize it's still F'ing loud, so I don't mind using shorter cans to mitigate blast and flash.

So u have a few laying around u don't want. [BD]

VIPER 237
25 September 2015, 16:55
MP5K.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/598/21094593573_586a34ac14.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/y94iKc)

My wife shooting the M16

[url=https://flic.kr/p/yNky7d]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5695/21527790528_f0f0e7d420.jpg[/url

Deadwing
26 September 2015, 00:53
Love that MP5...

navyis2
26 September 2015, 09:10
The more I shoot suppressed 5.56, the more I realize it's still F'ing loud, so I don't mind using shorter cans to mitigate blast and flash.

When my command issued me a NT4 I realized that suppression, even as poor as the nt4, is much more pleasant than shooting a 10.3" barreled AR. Then thinking about it 556 will never be all that quiet, so why not a good performing mini can?

six8
28 September 2015, 14:54
Nothing special but it's mine.

TwoStamper
http://i.imgur.com/HOADkol.jpg

DutyUse
28 September 2015, 15:36
Nothing special but it's mine.

TwoStamper
http://i.imgur.com/HOADkol.jpg

Looks good. I like the San tan Lower / MUR upper combo. What length barrel?

six8
28 September 2015, 15:42
Looks good. I like the San tan Lower / MUR upper combo. What length barrel?

Thanks. 8.5" BA 300blk


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toolboxluis00200
28 September 2015, 16:41
Nothing special but it's mine.

TwoStamper
http://i.imgur.com/HOADkol.jpg

Very nice

Joelski
28 September 2015, 16:42
Nothing special but it's mine.

TwoStamper
http://i.imgur.com/HOADkol.jpg

If that's nothing special, I might as well hang it up. That's a damn fine lookin' weapon.

six8
28 September 2015, 16:43
Thanks!


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alamo5000
28 September 2015, 16:47
Very good looking rifle six! Give us a range report on that bad boy!

six8
28 September 2015, 16:49
Very nice

Thank You.


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six8
28 September 2015, 16:49
Very good looking rifle six! Give us a range report on that bad boy!

Will do. Trying to get out this week. Thanks.


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alamo5000
28 September 2015, 16:56
Will do. Trying to get out this week. Thanks.

You could shoot that bad boy out in the back yard and nobody would know any better [:D]

six8
28 September 2015, 16:59
You could shoot that bad boy out in the back yard and nobody would know any better [:D]

I've thought about it! 😎


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six8
29 September 2015, 13:38
http://i.imgur.com/gP0WVft.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/t2UOGGN.jpg


Suppressed runs dirty, huh? After 30 rounds lol

http://i.imgur.com/nxRnMKz.jpg

Former11B
1 October 2015, 12:31
What ammo are you shooting? I don't think mine have ever left granules like that on the BCG/carrier before.

Farva
1 October 2015, 14:09
I'm gonna bet steel cased

six8
1 October 2015, 14:16
I'm gonna bet steel cased

Cmon man.

187 grain Gemtech subs


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six8
1 October 2015, 14:17
What ammo are you shooting? I don't think mine have ever left granules like that on the BCG/carrier before.

That's after 30 rounds! Also that much or more in the lower receiver


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Farva
1 October 2015, 14:52
Cmon man.

187 grain Gemtech subs


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[BD]

six8
1 October 2015, 18:26
[BD]
The Wolf I've shot in the past was cleaner! [wow]

navyis2
3 October 2015, 13:01
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/cfaulkner0006/IMG_20151003_121249_zpsifr8bxhr.jpg

Suppressed CZ is best CZ

voodoo_man
4 October 2015, 04:37
http://i.imgur.com/iaq3Ht9.jpg

DutyUse
4 October 2015, 06:17
http://i.imgur.com/iaq3Ht9.jpg

Cool shot I dig it

Deadwing
5 October 2015, 03:45
Ever since the ATF stopped approving SBR form 1s for WA residents, I've been on the hunt for a reasonably priced factory registered SBR to add to my safe. What i really wanted was a Colt 6933; something relatively cheap yet high quality that i could shoot the snot out of. The closest thing i could find in stock locally that wasn't priced north of $2k was a DD Mk18 in that heinous dog shit brown "milspec+" finish. If it were black, i might have jumped. But the thought of having to spend another couple hundred bucks to make the rifle not fugly, after paying the $200 tax and waiting 6 months for the stamp, made it a no go. I sent my dealer an email to see if they had any basic Gen 1 Noveske SBRs inbound, to which he replied no, but he could order it for me. Still, $1700 wasn't exactly cheap for a "basic" rifle, and i'd need to wait for the form 3 to come back before sending off my form 4. I asked him to let me think about it, and got an email back saying he had a police trade-in factory Colt SBR that he'd forgotten about, and that it's mine if i wanted it. Turns out it's a Colt 6933, just like i wanted! It's even got the standard .155 FCG pins! It's got a few scratches and dings in it (which i couldn't care less about), but is rock solid mechanically and looks like it was stored/carried in the trunk of a cruiser far more than it was shot. It comes complete with a JP hand guard and a functional Eotech (looks like a 512). The price? $750 with the Eotech! I'd call that a score in my book! While i wait for my stamp, i'll have plenty of time to think about what i want to do with the upper. Currently, i'm leaning toward putting it back the way Colt made it, with a carry handle sight and M4 hand guards (maybe a Knight's RAS). Anyway, here are the pics my dealer sent me of the rifle. I'm pleased as punch with this purchase and can't wait to get my hands on it!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/Colt%20M4LE-1-2_zpsxg42unfg.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/Colt%20M4LE-1-2_zpsxg42unfg.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/Colt%20M4LE-1-1_zpsiwle9yqh.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/Colt%20M4LE-1-1_zpsiwle9yqh.jpg.html)

DutyUse
5 October 2015, 04:14
Ever since the ATF stopped approving SBR form 1s for WA residents, I've been on the hunt for a reasonably priced factory registered SBR to add to my safe. What i really wanted was a Colt 6933; something relatively cheap yet high quality that i could shoot the snot out of. The closest thing i could find in stock locally that wasn't priced north of $2k was a DD Mk18 in that heinous dog shit brown "milspec+" finish. If it were black, i might have jumped. But the thought of having to spend another couple hundred bucks to make the rifle not fugly, after paying the $200 tax and waiting 6 months for the stamp, made it a no go. I sent my dealer an email to see if they had any basic Gen 1 Noveske SBRs inbound, to which he replied no, but he could order it for me. Still, $1700 wasn't exactly cheap for a "basic" rifle, and i'd need to wait for the form 3 to come back before sending off my form 4. I asked him to let me think about it, and got an email back saying he had a police trade-in factory Colt SBR that he'd forgotten about, and that it's mine if i wanted it. Turns out it's a Colt 6933, just like i wanted! It's even got the standard .155 FCG pins! It's got a few scratches and dings in it (which i couldn't care less about), but is rock solid mechanically and looks like it was stored/carried in the trunk of a cruiser far more than it was shot. It comes complete with a JP hand guard and a functional Eotech (looks like a 512). The price? $750 with the Eotech! I'd call that a score in my book! While i wait for my stamp, i'll have plenty of time to think about what i want to do with the upper. Currently, i'm leaning toward putting it back the way Colt made it, with a carry handle sight and M4 hand guards (maybe a Knight's RAS). Anyway, here are the pics my dealer sent me of the rifle. I'm pleased as punch with this purchase and can't wait to get my hands on it!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/Colt%20M4LE-1-2_zpsxg42unfg.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/Colt%20M4LE-1-2_zpsxg42unfg.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/Colt%20M4LE-1-1_zpsiwle9yqh.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/Colt%20M4LE-1-1_zpsiwle9yqh.jpg.html)

Wow what a great score! The colt 6933 is one of only a few carbines I'd ever trust to replace our 6920 for HD use

I agree that it would look badass going back to Colt stock parts, but I'm a bit biased as the Commando is probably my favorite AR design of all time. I have a factory carry handle take off if you need one

Deadwing
5 October 2015, 05:04
Wow what a great score! The colt 6933 is one of only a few carbines I'd ever trust to replace our 6920 for HD use

I agree that it would look badass going back to Colt stock parts, but I'm a bit biased as the Commando is probably my favorite AR design of all time. I have a factory carry handle take off if you need one

I'm with you! I really dig the look of the Colt Commando, and would give a kidney to have an actual "Commando" roll marked lower with the happy switch. [BD]

As for the carry handle, thanks for the offer! I think i'll take you up on that! It'll be nice to have as many Colt parts as possible on this baby. Shoot me a PM and we can hash out the details.

Former11B
5 October 2015, 05:19
I like the outward facing 5.56 rounds by the M4LE part of the stamp.

$750 with Eotech is awesome! If you don't want to keep it you could probably sell it and fund the stamp.

That's a hell of a deal. I would have bought it too lol

Jerry R
5 October 2015, 09:01
Very Nice Deadwing !! Congrats on a great score !

voodoo_man
5 October 2015, 09:11
Cole-tac suppressor cover

http://i.imgur.com/g3fvCQW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bZQJ23S.jpg

Former11B
5 October 2015, 17:33
Cmon man.

187 grain Gemtech subs


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Apparently it's a common thing with Gemtech subs

Pics in first post
http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93266

Gemtech info in post by wabostyle, Pg1
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/448917_Gemtech_187gr_and_220gr_Subsonic_Ammo.html
They use a filler in addition to the powder to make up for the low case volume so no flash detonation occurs.

One guy pulled a bunch of bullets who had the yellow grit but nothing like that filler was observed in the powder tray. Wonder if it changes color during the explosion?

Others have said the Gemtech 220s do it also. Remington 220 subs don't but are carbony-dirty.


I'd buy a single stage press & the basics and load my own with 208 A-max or 220 SMKs if I were you.

AA1680, IMR4198, Lil Gun, and H110 are popular

six8
5 October 2015, 18:13
Apparently it's a common thing with Gemtech subs

Pics in first post
http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93266

Gemtech info in post by wabostyle, Pg1
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/448917_Gemtech_187gr_and_220gr_Subsonic_Ammo.html
They use a filler in addition to the powder to make up for the low case volume so no flash detonation occurs.

One guy pulled a bunch of bullets who had the yellow grit but nothing like that filler was observed in the powder tray. Wonder if it changes color during the explosion?

Others have said the Gemtech 220s do it also. Remington 220 subs don't but are carbony-dirty.


I'd buy a single stage press & the basics and load my own with 208 A-max or 220 SMKs if I were you.

AA1680, IMR4198, Lil Gun, and H110 are popular

Thank you. I was looking for that info as I knew I read about it somewhere. Next time out I'm gonna try some Remi 220 subs.


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Deadwing
6 October 2015, 02:47
I like the outward facing 5.56 rounds by the M4LE part of the stamp.

$750 with Eotech is awesome! If you don't want to keep it you could probably sell it and fund the stamp.

That's a hell of a deal. I would have bought it too lol

I really dig the roll mark on this lower. It's probably my favorite post-'86 roll mark available on the civilian market. The outward facing 5.56 rounds definitely a nice touch. I'll probably keep the Eotech, as it'll get put to good use even if it's not kept on this rifle. And I still can't believe the deal I got. I get good deals here and there, but this one takes the cake lol.


Very Nice Deadwing !! Congrats on a great score !

Thanks, Jerry! I'm chomping at the bit waiting for this one. Feels like my first stamp all over again!

Former11B
6 October 2015, 11:12
VooDoo, I like the look of that Cole Tac cover. I was thinking about a Just Rifles MAD or HAD (not sure which suits my needs better) but I like the straps versus the cords for tension.

I'm not so much worried about heat abatement but I do have a mirage issue especially with .308.

Always enjoy seeing new options

six8
6 October 2015, 14:57
I just received the HAD. I would've went with the Cole-Tac but wasn't really aware it existed or didn't think about it. :(

Former11B
6 October 2015, 18:55
Looks like the Cole Tac is my choice but deciding the model.

The Baby Python is for Mini/K cans so that's a no.

Then there's the Python/$60, the Metal Python/$63, the Summit/$67, and the Heavy Metal Python/$93.

The Heavy Metal Python is the only one warranties due to melting because of FA/mag dumps, however, the others are rated plenty high for my use, so the Heavy Metal is out.

I think the Python is out...it's the lightest but uses plastic buckles. I'm worried about them breaking over time/use/abuse.

That leaves the Summit: Metal buckles and non-Velcro adjustable straps.

-or-

The Metal Python: has metal buckles and Velcro straps.

I think I like the Metal Python: I think I'll be able to get it as firm/snug of a hold and will have fewer issues in that department....$5 cheaper doesn't hurt. I'm thinking Coyote Brown sleeve and Ranger Green straps

If anyone wants to weigh in on this, I'd appreciate it

tact
7 October 2015, 15:39
Sounds like my wife in a shoe store.

Former11B
7 October 2015, 18:10
Well I'd like to decide what I need so I don't waste money on something that's gonna fail...

CarbonScoring
11 October 2015, 18:04
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/574/21710832178_aea7f950be_h.jpg

CarbonScoring
11 October 2015, 18:08
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5819/21872519406_65904daa67_b.jpg

alamo5000
11 October 2015, 18:16
Well I'd like to decide what I need so I don't waste money on something that's gonna fail...

That's always been my motto. Taking a little time to make an educated choice pays off 90% of the time.

Slippers
11 October 2015, 18:49
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5819/21872519406_65904daa67_b.jpg

Omega mmmm!

DutyUse
11 October 2015, 19:09
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/574/21710832178_aea7f950be_h.jpg

Very nice shot

voodoo_man
12 October 2015, 13:59
http://i.imgur.com/ZCcL0Bi.jpg

toolboxluis00200
12 October 2015, 15:47
http://i.imgur.com/ZCcL0Bi.jpg

Very cool I like that

UWone77
12 October 2015, 20:35
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/5S3A3588_zpsruwsp8x3.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/5S3A3588_zpsruwsp8x3.jpg.html)

alamo5000
12 October 2015, 20:46
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/5S3A3588_zpsruwsp8x3.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/5S3A3588_zpsruwsp8x3.jpg.html)

Whats the barrel length and rail length on that one?

DutyUse
12 October 2015, 20:51
Whats the barrel length and rail length on that one?

Think it's an nsr 9" rail and a 10.3" barrel

Looks really good uw

UWone77
12 October 2015, 20:56
Think it's an nsr 9" rail and a 10.3" barrel

Looks really good uw

Yep, those are the specs!

MoxyDave
13 October 2015, 12:19
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/5S3A3588_zpsruwsp8x3.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/5S3A3588_zpsruwsp8x3.jpg.html)

Lookin' good man! This is the style I like best nowadays - 45 selector, steep grip, raptor ch, suppressor-ready ... and I really like that translucent magazine.

velocity2006
13 October 2015, 12:21
80% lower? Looks good with no rollmarks.

UWone77
13 October 2015, 13:35
80% lower? Looks good with no rollmarks.

It's actually a Forged Rainier. They always do roll marks on the other side.

Joelski
13 October 2015, 13:50
You chewin' my flavah?

:D That's a sweet stick, not aside from the fact it's ten times more expensive and better than mine and I'm plotting ways to unhome it. I am green, yes.

Is that a B5/LMT stock? Did you replace the stock DD, er.. stock? Those things are proof that interior decorators shouldn't be designing AR parts! [:D]

Dstrbdmedic167
13 October 2015, 13:58
Is that a B5/LMT stock?

It's a Mapgul STR...