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FortTom
21 July 2018, 09:07
If there is already a thread on this, please help me find it. I couldn't find one.

My question is, have you tried, and what do you think of the Vortex Viper PST Gen II 1X6X24 scope. (MOA model)

Thanks,

FT[:D]

Slippers
21 July 2018, 10:09
Disappointing. Illum is not nearly as bright as the razor. Glass isn't as good. It's a budget optic.

Former11B
21 July 2018, 10:11
I’ve held/handled/shot one. Don’t own one but I would buy one if/when in the market.

I liked the clarity of the glass, the brightness was fine but the day was about 40% overcast. The reticle/stadia were thick enough to be useful but not so thick they blocked the target in the event of a “precision” shot that’s needed.

Wish it was about 4oz lighter



Disappointing. Illum is not nearly as bright as the razor. Glass isn't as good. It's a budget optic.

Strike Eagles are budget optics. Those are hazy compared to this version of the PST. And of course the Razor is better...it’s like $1000 more [BD]

It’s a good option if you can’t spend $1800

UWone77
21 July 2018, 10:15
I’ve held/handled/shot one. Don’t own one but I would buy one if/when in the market.

I liked the clarity of the glass, the brightness was fine but the day was about 40% overcast. The reticle/stadia were thick enough to be useful but not so thick they blocked the target in the event of a “precision” shot that’s needed.

Wish it was about 4oz lighter




Strike Eagles are budget optics. Those are hazy compared to this version of the PST. And of course the Razor is better...it’s like $1000 more [BD]

It’s a good option if you can’t spend $1800

Honestly, The Strike Eagles have gotten better from the 1-6 to the 1-8 version, while the Viper PST's have stagnated from the 1-4 to 1-6 version. I was going to get 2 1-6x24 Vipers, but I can confirm what Slippers said, so I ended up with 2 Razors instead.

Former11B
21 July 2018, 10:21
Still a $700 difference. Not exactly a small jump in price. Of course you would expect more out of the higher priced optic.

UWone77
21 July 2018, 10:23
Still a $700 difference. Not exactly a small jump in price. Of course you would expect more out of the higher priced optic.

I think the point I was trying to make is... The 1-6 PST is on par with the Strike Eagles, and should be priced as a such. It's not an $800 optic IMHO.

Former11B
21 July 2018, 10:25
I think the point I was trying to make is... The 1-6 PST is on par with the Strike Eagles, and should be priced as a such. It's not an $800 optic IMHO.

Have they started using different glass in the Strike Eagles? When I looked through them, I saw a lot of haze/fish bowl that I didn’t see in the PST II


I want to see how the similarly priced MERCON 1-6 looks ;)

UWone77
21 July 2018, 10:28
Have they started using different glass in the Strike Eagles? When I looked through them, I saw a lot of haze/fish bowl that I didn’t see in the PST II


I want to see how the similarly priced MERCON 1-6 looks ;)

And you likely will soon.......

Yeah you're right, there is still some fish eye in the Strike Eagles... but I felt much less in the 1-8 version. The PST is not double the price better than the SE though.

FortTom
21 July 2018, 12:41
Disappointing. Illum is not nearly as bright as the razor. Glass isn't as good. It's a budget optic.
I'll take your word on the performance attributes, but if MSRP of $1100 is a budget scope, with a street price of $799 , I'd like to have your budget. Seriously, I can afford a 2K scope, but I don't need a 2K scope. [:D] Most of my shooting is in the 100 to 200 yard range. Hmmmm…. what to do... what to do...

FT[:D]

SINNER
21 July 2018, 13:09
Toys.

Vortex in general has a real issue with QC. They think a bulletproof warranty is better than a bulletproof optic. Top to bottom in their line IMO suffers from too many issues.


But they got a hell of a warranty dept. Just ask everyone who’s owned one.

UWone77
21 July 2018, 13:15
They think a bulletproof warranty is better than a bulletproof optic..

And there's the truth bomb.

You keep hearing about Vortex's legendary warranty, because it's being used a lot.

Honestly, the only Vortex optics I'd buy are Razors.

FortTom
21 July 2018, 15:25
And there's the truth bomb.

You keep hearing about Vortex's legendary warranty, because it's being used a lot.

Honestly, the only Vortex optics I'd buy are Razors.

O.K. then tell me about a Razor.....QC issues? - Performance?

FT[:D]

gatordev
21 July 2018, 15:51
O.K. then tell me about a Razor.....QC issues? - Performance?

FT[:D]

I have no doubt that someone, somewhere, has had an issue with a Razor 1-6. But overall, they're bombproof, optical clarity is awesome, and the dot is super-bright. But they are heavy. Add all that up into your personal equation.

Disclaimer: I don't own one, but I've used one several times and they're not to be dismissed, especially if you're a 100-200y shooter.

Slippers
21 July 2018, 17:56
I'll take your word on the performance attributes, but if MSRP of $1100 is a budget scope, with a street price of $799 , I'd like to have your budget. Seriously, I can afford a 2K scope, but I don't need a 2K scope. [:D] Most of my shooting is in the 100 to 200 yard range. Hmmmm…. what to do... what to do...

FT[:D]

It's far too expensive for what you get. Obviously the price isn't really the budget realm, but the quality is, in my opinion.

I'm an optic snob through and through. I also get a lot of high end optics for far below market price, so I can satisfy my snobbiness. But even at my price, I wouldn't keep the PST gen 2 1-6.

tact
22 July 2018, 05:02
I agree with UW.....Razor is the only Vortex I have and no issues. I have the E version so it’s a bit lighter. You can get them on sale around 1100-1200 if you look around.