WTB 1 .in pound Torque Screwdriver.

[FortTom]

Looking for a decent deal on a 1" pound torque screwdriver. Range = 0 to 20 or up. PM me with type and price wanted.
Thanks,
FT[:D]

[Jerry R]

I have a Wheeler Fat Wrench (keeping it, sorry). A little pricey, but I really like it. Link to it at Brownells below. You can find it on eBay a couple of bucks cheaper, but ...

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/wrenches/general-wrenches/fat-wrench-prod56976.aspx

[Slippers]

The wheeler is 10 inch lbs minimum, I believe. For 1 inch lb you need to go with an inch oz torque screwdriver that does something like 2-20 inch oz and then set it to 16, or order a factory preset one from Seekonk (or similar).

[SINNER]

I’ve never seen any driver but a preset fixed that will go below 5 inch/lbs. until you drop to the inch/ounces range.

Some of the best torque drivers made.

https://www.wihatools.com/torque-control-drivers-handles-blades/torquecontrol-tools/torquevario-adjustable-handles

Great deal on a quality wrench made by Capri.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-torque-wrench

As with any torque measuring device, the highest accuracy will be in the top 20% of its range.

[SINNER]

The wheeler is 10 inch lbs minimum, I believe. For 1 inch lb you need to go with an inch oz torque screwdriver that does something like 2-20 inch oz and then set it to 16, or order a factory preset one from Seekonk (or similar).

Your post wasn’t there when I started typing. 100% correct. One thing I will add is the Seekonk MCX sucks. $240 wrench that gets dirt into the micrometer style adjustment dial. They will clean their shit design for $50. Lol They are a well known company in the plumbing trade.

[ZhouJett]

I have one of these to mount my optics .. Seems to work fine..
I wish it came w more bits... Luckily i had my own..
Quality seems solid.. came w certificate of calibration inside..
Notice that its $20 cheaper on Amazon than direct from Vortex..
I found this one on Walmart Online last year.. I think it was $59..
Its seems to be $69 everywhere now..

https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Torque-Wrench-Mounting/dp/B01M0USC82?hvadid=228974741740&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9027758&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10600790286446730018&hvtargid=kwd-323342703598&keywords=vortex+torque+screwdriver&qid=1537478753&sr=8-1&tag=googhydr-20&ref=sr_1_1

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[FortTom]

Ordered the Vortex-Optix. Hope it works o.k. Have a friend that can take it to work and soak it in the QC lab overnight, and check with some lab grade standards. I know you get what you pay for...Especially when it comes to gauges, etc. If I can get "good" results, for something I'm probably only use 2 or 3 times, tops, I'll be happy. If I have to spend $250, I'll "just guestimate it with my fingers.

Thanks, guys.

FT[:D]

[Slippers]

The vortex doesn't go down to 1 inch lb, unless that's a typo in your original post and you meant 10.

I also wouldn't pay $70 for that.

[FortTom]

The vortex doesn't go down to 1 inch lb, unless that's a typo in your original post and you meant 10.

I also wouldn't pay $70 for that. Should say 10 - 20 or 30 or so. If it goes in the QC for a soak, and checks out on lab grade stuff, for what little use it'll get, I'll be happy with what I spent. Don't need a $250 tool, when a $70 dollar tool will do the job. If it doesn't, thank your lucky stars I got fucked and not you.

FT

[Slippers]

If it doesn't, thank your lucky stars I got fucked and not you.

FT

Haha! I just think the vortex is a little bit overpriced. I have a seekonk preset for my scar barrel screws, but otherwise use the 65 in/lb and 15 in/lb fixit sticks torque limiters for optics, and also have a wheeler fat wrench I leave on the work bench for anything else not covered by the presets.

[BoilerUp]

I prefer beam style torque wrenches.

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-M195-Torque-Wrench/dp/B00SNICDJC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1537496245&sr=8-5&keywords=beam+torque+wrench&dpID=31ONze8xNLL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

[SINNER]

The vortex doesn't go down to 1 inch lb, unless that's a typo in your original post and you meant 10.

I also wouldn't pay $70 for that.

You are mistaken on that Vortex drivers worth. It clearly outperformed a Seekonk that was triple it’s cost. IIRC the Seekonk was +28% at its middle setting at last calibration. That’s when the BS dirt issue came up from them. I honestly can’t figure out how Vortex sells it so cheap. The same driver with a Capri badge is almost double.

https://www.amazon.com/Capri-Tools-CP21075-Certified-Screwdriver/dp/B00VPPJWLW?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-iphone-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00VPPJWLW

[FortTom]

You are mistaken on that Vortex drivers worth. It clearly outperformed a Seekonk that was triple it’s cost. IIRC the Seekonk was +28% at its middle setting at last calibration. That’s when the BS dirt issue came up from them. I honestly can’t figure out how Vortex sells it so cheap. The same driver with a Capri badge is almost double.

https://www.amazon.com/Capri-Tools-CP21075-Certified-Screwdriver/dp/B00VPPJWLW?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-iphone-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00VPPJWLW

[wow]

[Slippers]

You are mistaken on that Vortex drivers worth. It clearly outperformed a Seekonk that was triple it’s cost. IIRC the Seekonk was +28% at its middle setting at last calibration. That’s when the BS dirt issue came up from them. I honestly can’t figure out how Vortex sells it so cheap. The same driver with a Capri badge is almost double.

https://www.amazon.com/Capri-Tools-CP21075-Certified-Screwdriver/dp/B00VPPJWLW?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-iphone-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00VPPJWLW

I don't use a seekonk adjustable, so I'm not concerned with the specific issue you ran into.

[ZhouJett]

I don't use a seekonk adjustable, so I'm not concerned with the specific issue you ran into.

I dont use the Seekonk Adjustable either..
Because its way less accurate than the $69 Vortex and cost $246...
http://www.seekonk.com/cat-46-1-33/adjustable-slip-type-torque-screwdriver.htm

[FortTom]

I prefer beam style torque wrenches.

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-M195-Torque-Wrench/dp/B00SNICDJC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1537496245&sr=8-5&keywords=beam+torque+wrench&dpID=31ONze8xNLL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
BU, I wouldn't be adverse to having one (beam type) in my tool chest, but they have draw backs working in tight and odd spaces, which are easier to get to with a screw driver type tool. I do have a "clicker" style inch lb. wrench, but it only goes down to 20 inch lbs, at lowest setting.

Thanks,

FT[:D]

[FortTom]

Never mind, have a beam type on the way now[:D]

[BoilerUp]

Never mind, have a beam type on the way now[:D]

I bought one after I sheered a screw mounting a BCM KMR. It's a handy little tool. It's what I use for all my optics mounting and handguard mounting. The upside to a beam style torque wrench is you don't really have to worry about them going out of calibration like the mechanical types. Just make sure it points to zero before you start. I also like that you have the ability to continuously observe the applied torque.

[SINNER]

Deflecting beam torque wrenches are outdated for a reason. They suck. Disaster waiting to happen with inch/lb level torque settings.

[BoilerUp]

Deflecting beam torque wrenches are outdated for a reason. They suck. Disaster waiting to happen with inch/lb level torque settings.

Why do you say that?

[SINNER]

They cannot be calibrated so over time they become far out of spec. Also they are too dependent on the user to give accurate measurements even when new. Something as simple as your hand on the socket end or your head off axis of the scale and not reading the needle from directly above can cause a 15-20% variation between fasteners.

[mustangfreek]

Deflecting beam torque wrenches are outdated for a reason. They suck. Disaster waiting to happen with inch/lb level torque settings.

This

No reason in this day and age to use one. Outdated and no real good way to be precise and know if it’s correct or not. Only reason I have one is for one thing and that’s checking how much it takes to spin a motor over as I build the short lock.really more of a curious thing for me.

That vortex option seems like a great option for what your getting

[BoilerUp]

They cannot be calibrated so over time they become far out of spec. Also they are too dependent on the user to give accurate measurements even when new. Something as simple as your hand on the socket end or your head off axis of the scale and not reading the needle from directly above can cause a 15-20% variation between fasteners.

Interesting. Thanks.

This might be like debating 6.8 SPC vs 6.5 Grendel. That said, there is generally nothing to calibrate on a beam style wrench which is why many consider them to be the better option. Beam style torque wrenches rely on the inherent physical properties of the material, just like a mercury thermometer. Mechanical torque wrenches are just a that - mechanical, and are much more susceptible to drift. Not setting a mechanical torque wrench back to zero when done will accelerates its drift. I agree that accurate read-outs on beam wrenches can be problematic, just like on beam scales, but that's an operator issue not an equipment issue. Most manufacturers of mechanical / click torque wrenches suggest you calibrate them annually, and many won't warranty the accuracy beyond that. FWIW, I've read that Rolls Royce uses beam style wrenches to check the accuracy of their click-style wrenches. It was on the internet, so it must be true.

Mustang, it's quite easy to check the accuracy of any torque wrench. Chuck the head in a vice, hang a known weight of the handle, and see if it matches. Some math might be required. Not sure how you check a driver w/o specialized equipment but I'm sure there's a way.

For pretty much anything I do, I can accept a 10% deviation anyway (and have confidence my beam wrench is keeping me within 5%) and I don't have access or read-out problems, so the cheaper option serves me quite well. But even if I was using a clicker and it was out of calibration, I'd also still probably be fine.

[mustangfreek]

Sounds like a copy and paste...lol

I’m all good though, and I’m I’m pretty sure any of the big wig company’s are not testing theee calibration by hanging a weight off it...[:D]

[BoilerUp]

I’m all good though, and I’m I’m pretty sure any of the big wig company’s are not testing theee calibration by hanging a weight off it...[:D]

Of course not. But complex calibration equipment doesn't change the underlying simple physics.

I'll take your other comment as a compliment about my great writing style. [BD]