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Calico Jack
18 January 2019, 07:58
I am building a ar15 rifle with my son. In order for it to be Maryland compliant in the 5.56 caliber it needs to be a Heavy barrel profile. I believe many barrel makers make a heavy barrel profile but not all of them call it that. Maryland deems the M4 barrel profile evil but not the Hbar profile so it's my only option. For easily available cheap ammo we are sticking with the 5.56.
Do you guys have any suggestions?
Excuse the grammar errors I am posting this from my phone.

UWone77
18 January 2019, 08:07
How does MD define a Heavy Barrel?

What length?

Stone
18 January 2019, 09:26
Semi-Automatic Assault Rifles are BANNED in Maryland. (Unless OWNED BEFORE 10/1/2013)

Assault Rifle means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless of the producer or manufacturer:
(i) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine;
(ii) AK-47 in all forms;
(iii) Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto;
(iv) AR 100 type semi-auto;
(v) AR 180 type semi-auto;
(vi) Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto;
(vii) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto;
(viii) Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics;
(ix) Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto;
(x) Beretta AR70 type semi-auto;
(xi) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle;
(xii) Calico models M-100 and M-900;
(xiii) CIS SR 88 type semi-auto;
(xiv) Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines;
(xv) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations
***except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle;*** PER the M.S.P. an HBAR is defined as a AR15 that is MARKED BHAR on the Barrel or Receiver or is Marketed/Advertised by the Manufacturer as a HBAR Rifle.

Stone
18 January 2019, 10:14
Barrel length? Budget? Also consider the .223 Wylde chamber. It does everything 556 will do and more accurate.

https://dsgarms.com/dsg-4001-0005

UWone77
18 January 2019, 10:29
Barrel length? Budget? Also consider the .223 Wylde chamber. It does everything 556 will do and more accurate.

https://dsgarms.com/dsg-4001-0005

Good call, or I can give him a 30% off coupon for a Mod 2 barrel. I figure anything with a .800 GB seat would be considered a heavy barrel.

Former11B
18 January 2019, 10:33
Good call, or I can give him a 30% off coupon for a Mod 2 barrel. I figure anything with a .800 GB seat would be considered a heavy barrel.

You know what I’d recommend barrel-wise! And 30% off to boot

Stone
18 January 2019, 11:19
Good call, or I can give him a 30% off coupon for a Mod 2 barrel. I figure anything with a .800 GB seat would be considered a heavy barrel.

Hell yeah, that's a smoking good deal on a quality barrel.

Joelski
18 January 2019, 11:31
DocSherm's got a Gummint Profile barrel right here for a hell of a price and he's a good dude to do business with: http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?11189-ACOG-and-Gun-Parts

Joelski
18 January 2019, 11:34
Good call, or I can give him a 30% off coupon for a Mod 2 barrel. I figure anything with a .800 GB seat would be considered a heavy barrel.

I didn't get in on the last dealie for budgetary reasons, but if you find any mroe of those laying around, I got a Valkyrie just calling my name. Just sayin'. :whistle: [:)]

UWone77
18 January 2019, 12:04
I didn't get in on the last dealie for budgetary reasons, but if you find any mroe of those laying around, I got a Valkyrie just calling my name. Just sayin'. :whistle: [:)]

Got a ton of one use coupons left. I'm going to make a post later offering them up if you want one.

Calico Jack
18 January 2019, 13:17
How does MD define a Heavy Barrel?

What length?
A local gun shop asked the Maryland State Police licensing division trooper that question and got this answer:


Maryland law states only "heavy barrel" AR-15 are legal for build, purchase or sell after October 01, 2013. Maryland law states a "MANUFACTURER" designates what they build is a "heavy barrel"
Maryland does not require or does NOT spell out any specifications for a "heavy barrel" ONLY what the MANUFACTURER designates and or builds as THEIR "heavy barrel"
the manufacture can do so by stating it in their specifications for their build or mark the said firearm with "heavy barrel"

so....after Thursday's seminar with the Maryland State Police firearms registration section.......I asked the question:

IF the manufacturer builds their AR-15 with a "pencil" barrel; .620 O/D or basically ANY SIZE out side diameter barrel with a legal length of 16 inches overall.....AND the manufacture ENGRAVES or marks the that barrel....as 'HEAVY BARREL"
it is now a LEGAL "HEAVY BARREL" IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND!
several M.S.P. troopers at this meeting advised I was correct.

Length doesn't matter. Anything shorter than 16" falls under NFA and the profile doesn't matter.

Calico Jack
18 January 2019, 13:20
I think I am going to buy that barrel on the forum. I am building a pistol. I was going 12.5 but 12 will do at that price. He would gladly put the coupon to use. He is working on a first year fire fighter budget. I was hopping under $200.00 for the barrel but I am not sure if that is realistic. I was also looking at the .223 Wylde. A shop I follow on book face posted some AP 18" spr uppers with Hanson barrels for $340.00

Calico Jack
18 January 2019, 13:32
I checked with BA they don't think the spr barrel complies with Maryland's law. So that is a no go.

UWone77
18 January 2019, 13:40
A local gun shop asked the Maryland State Police licensing division trooper that question and got this answer:


Maryland law states only "heavy barrel" AR-15 are legal for build, purchase or sell after October 01, 2013. Maryland law states a "MANUFACTURER" designates what they build is a "heavy barrel"
Maryland does not require or does NOT spell out any specifications for a "heavy barrel" ONLY what the MANUFACTURER designates and or builds as THEIR "heavy barrel"
the manufacture can do so by stating it in their specifications for their build or mark the said firearm with "heavy barrel"

so....after Thursday's seminar with the Maryland State Police firearms registration section.......I asked the question:

IF the manufacturer builds their AR-15 with a "pencil" barrel; .620 O/D or basically ANY SIZE out side diameter barrel with a legal length of 16 inches overall.....AND the manufacture ENGRAVES or marks the that barrel....as 'HEAVY BARREL"
it is now a LEGAL "HEAVY BARREL" IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND!
several M.S.P. troopers at this meeting advised I was correct.

Length doesn't matter. Anything shorter than 16" falls under NFA and the profile doesn't matter.

In that case, I'd just buy whatever barrel you wanted and have someone laser engrave "Heavy Barrel" on it. That's so ridiculous.

Calico Jack
18 January 2019, 13:55
The mod 2 barrel you spoke of which Rainer arms barrel were you referencing?

Stone
18 January 2019, 15:15
In that case, I'd just buy whatever barrel you wanted and have someone laser engrave "Heavy Barrel" on it. That's so ridiculous.

Yeah because after all, those pencil and medium contour barrels are extremely dangerous assault weapons...[bash]

SINNER
18 January 2019, 20:19
The State Police had to backtrack on the engraved part after they realized the deal LWRC and Owe’Malley had struck allowing all LWRC rifles to remain Maryland legal by advertising “heavy barrel” went against what was written.

The barrel only needs to be advertised as a heavy barrel and not engraved. Not like I want to be a test monkey but multiple lawyers have stated that it only applies to 5.56 caliber barrels. And a pinned 14.5 does have to comply with the heavy barrel requirements

Colt take offs are my go to for an undeniably legal Maryland AR. Easily found on GB for $200-250 with a little patience.

SINNER
18 January 2019, 20:24
6191

Lol Malfunctioning junk with a cornered market until a FN dealer called the state out.

Calico Jack
20 January 2019, 08:26
The DI is my departments issued duty rifle. I have no complaints. Thanks for the info. If someone stumbles across a deal keep me in mind.

UWone77
20 January 2019, 08:41
https://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-mountain-series-cold-hammer-forged-barrel-5-56mm-nato/?sc_src=email_325536&sc_lid=25473441&sc_uid=uzEBBeJ1Vr&sc_llid=45814&sc_eh=dd837407c24f1a261&utm_source=Emarsys&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Sale+1-18-19

FortTom
25 January 2019, 18:07
Just when I think I can't hear of a more stupid-assed regulation on "Assault Rifles", I read this nonsense. I'm way past the WTF? stage, bordering on jaded and stupefied. Do MD legislators smoke crack much?

FT[bash]