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Stone
30 December 2019, 10:40
Federal decided to stop making my favorite carry round so I am on the hunt for a new round. What are you guys running? And why do you have confidence in that round? TIA

alamo5000
30 December 2019, 11:02
Federal decided to stop making my favorite carry round so I am on the hunt for a new round. What are you guys running? And why do you have confidence in that round? TIA

What were you carrying before?

I have shot numerous SD rounds and for reliability and great performance the 124gr HST are my go to.

Stone
30 December 2019, 11:45
Federal TB 135+p LE9T5 Kind of leaning towards a bonded round again. Its been a few years since I researched 9mm rounds and was just curious what you guys are using...

gatordev
30 December 2019, 12:13
Have you looked at the Lehigh rounds? I'm not a ballistics nerd, but they seem to get very good reviews in testing. I grabbed 200 rounds during their last sale and will see how they run in the night stand gun.

BoilerUp
30 December 2019, 21:29
Gold Dot or Winchester Ranger T-Series

tact
31 December 2019, 05:06
Federal HST 147

Aragorn
31 December 2019, 08:40
Federal HST 147

This. Exactly this.

Stone
31 December 2019, 09:54
Thanks guys! Will definitely look into those.

Lehigh
Gold dots
Ranger- RA9T
RA9B
PDX-1
HST 147g

The wife just told me she has a case of the 147g HST's stashed away...[wow]

MoxyDave
31 December 2019, 14:00
Any round with a bonded jacket will do. I like 124gr +P Gold Dots. 9mm was originally designed around a 124gr bullet so it just makes sense to me. Just make sure to fire a bunch of them in your actual carry gun to make sure it runs well, but I'm sure you know that [:)]

BoilerUp
31 December 2019, 16:36
And check out the Police Trade-In Ammo deals from Recoil Gunworks: https://www.recoilgunworks.com/trade-ammo-c-32_213.html

UWone77
31 December 2019, 19:30
Department uses 147gr Gold Dots. We did an extensive ammo test a few years back and the 147 was the best combo of penetration and expansion. I used to carry 124gr Gold Dots, but now also carry 147gr Gold Dots. I still have a supply of Federal HSTs

alamo5000
31 December 2019, 20:11
Department uses 147gr Gold Dots. We did an extensive ammo test a few years back and the 147 was the best combo of penetration and expansion. I used to carry 124gr Gold Dots, but now also carry 147gr Gold Dots. I still have a supply of Federal HSTs

How much difference was there with 124 s 147?

Joelski
2 January 2020, 17:27
The 147 is gonna go through a modest barrier and still have enough chug to make hole for blood to escape. Example: a 124 gr hp loses more of it's power going through a hollow core door compared to a similar 147 gr boolit. Theres a video floating around of a Carhart jacket stopping a 9 mm (probably 115 gr Blazer or worse).

Uffdaphil
2 January 2020, 19:48
147 HSTs preferred for me for the reasons Joelski stated. That said, Iím not going to waste my Speer and Ranger on paper. I think the difference is between verry good and a little extra very good.

Just donít load 158 g in your Glock 26. I like them in my 7+Ē Evo and Ar 9 suppressed, but big no-no in sub-compact barrels.

Joelski
3 January 2020, 03:24
147 HSTs preferred for me for the reasons Joelski stated. That said, Iím not going to waste my Speer and Ranger on paper. I think the difference is between verry good and a little extra very good.

Just donít load 158 g in your Glock 26. I like them in my 7+Ē Evo and Ar 9 suppressed, but big no-no in sub-compact barrels.That's odd; Federal puts out a 150 gr HST they claim is optimal for compact guns. Is it a feeding issue?

Uffdaphil
3 January 2020, 04:49
The 158s feed and fire, but stovepipe. Unlike that 150 HST I think my 158 (and 165) is optimized for longer barrels. I tried the 158 just to compare in a G19 and it functioned fine.

Thanks for the heads up on the 150. I will try some. I donít think the 147 is awful in the 26, but definitely not as comfy as the 19.

Default.mp3
3 January 2020, 21:55
According to Gary Roberts, as of 2016-06-01, he recommended these:

Barnes XPB 115 gr JHP (copper bullet)
Federal Tactical 124 gr JHP (LE9T1)
Federal HST 124 gr +P JHP (P9HST3)
Remington Golden Saber bonded 124 gr +P JHP (GSB9MMD)
Speer Gold Dot 124 gr +P JHP
Winchester Ranger-T 124 gr +P JHP (RA9124TP)
Winchester 124 gr +P bonded JHP (RA9BA)
Winchester Ranger-T 127 gr +P+ JHP (RA9TA)
Federal Tactical 135 gr +P JHP (LE9T5)
Hornady Critical Duty 135 gr +P PT
Federal HST 147 gr JHP (P9HST2)
Remington Golden Saber 147 gr JHP (GS9MMC)
Speer Gold Dot 147 gr JHP
Speer G2 147 gr PT
Winchester Ranger-T 147 gr JHP (RA9T)
Winchester 147 gr bonded JHP (RA9B/Q4364)

Source: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?4337-Service-Caliber-Handgun-Duty-and-Self-Defense-Ammo

I currently use 147 gr. HSTs, but will be switching to 147 gr. Gold Dot G2, only because the newer batches of 147 gr. HSTs do not have the same POI as the older batches, and thus do not match my practice ammo (Speer Lawman 147 gr.).