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UWone77
24 January 2020, 07:07
https://geissele.com/optics/super-precision-optics.html

The Super Precision 1-6 by Geissele Automatics (https://geissele.com/optics/super-precision-optics.html) is a robust 1-6x26mm rifle scope designed specifically with the AR platform in mind. Combining the Geissele DMRR-1 reticle with the scope’s zoom range (true 1x to 6x) allows the user to quickly acquire a target, estimate range and employ accurate fire at short to medium ranges. A 26mm objective lens increases light transmission that lets the extremely high quality lenses render a crystal clear and vivid image that is both sharp and color accurate. This scope has a 30mm Tube size, and is made from Aircraft Grade 6061-T6 aluminum. It is finished in your choice of black or ddc Type-3 Hardcoat Anodize.


The DMRR-1 Reticle is custom to Geissele Automatics and allows the user quick range estimation and the ability to place accurate firepower at the most useful distances for most shooters. By using MILs, our DMRR-1 reticle is not tied down to a single caliber, making our scope appropriate for a wide variety of platforms and uses, there are hlaf mil markings as well to help with further dial in adjustments. The range estimation feature (accurate at 6x) of the DMRR-1 Reticle lets you quickly and effectively range a standard target at a distance of 3, 4 and 5 hundred meters using shoulder width or shoulder to waist ratio. Being a Second Focal Plane, the DMRR-1 reticle will maintain its size through the scope’s zoom levels.

Magnification: 1x-6x
Reticle: DMMR-1
Objective Lens: 26mm
Tube Size: 30mm
Eye Relief: 90mm
Focal Plane: Second
Field of View: 1x - 111.2 feet at 100 yards, 6x - 18.33 feet at 100 yards
Turrel Style: Low Profile Capped, Resettable for Zero
Click Value Adjustment: 0.2 MIL
Travel Per Rotation: 20 MIL
Elevation/Windage Adjustment: UP/DOWN 60MIL - LEFT/RIGHT 24MIL
Parallax: 100 yards
Length: 10.5 inches
Weight: 24.2 ounces
Materials: Aircraft Grade A6061-T6 Aluminum
Battery: CR2032
Brightness Levels: 6x
Finish: Type 3 Hardcoat Anodize
IPX Rating: IP66 (Dust proof and safe from high pressure spray)


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SINNER
24 January 2020, 07:52
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Should go nice with their coffee...

docsherm
24 January 2020, 13:24
This is going to be ......

https://media.giphy.com/media/QLyhWVTvAHbAbAdWcp/giphy.gif

gatordev
24 January 2020, 13:30
Personally, I don't really see the point of this optic, but I'm curious what's driving the negative comments here. I'm not arguing with them, just curious to hear more.

docsherm
24 January 2020, 14:56
Personally, I don't really see the point of this optic, but I'm curious what's driving the negative comments here. I'm not arguing with them, just curious to hear more.

Maybe it has something to do with them producing some outstanding garbage in tbe last few years.

UWone77
24 January 2020, 15:31
Personally, I don't really see the point of this optic, but I'm curious what's driving the negative comments here. I'm not arguing with them, just curious to hear more.

I think a 1-6 at 24.5oz for 1k will not go well.

tact
24 January 2020, 15:43
Maybe it has something to do with them producing some outstanding garbage in tbe last few years.

Do tell......

fledge
24 January 2020, 15:53
I think a 1-6 at 24.5oz for 1k will not go well.

It’s 2015 tech showing up in a Superman cape. This should have never left the R&D dept at that weight. But hey, you get a throw lever built in.

tact
24 January 2020, 16:20
It’s 2015 tech showing up in a Superman cape. This should have never left the R&D dept at that weight. But hey, you get a throw lever built in.

So it’s 3 oz heavier than a lightest E model Razor and yet if one adds a throw lever to the razor (Vortex throw lever is over 6 oz) it becomes 3 oz lighter. I never understand the weight complaints especially from those that generally don’t really hump that thing around all day or much at all.

gatordev
24 January 2020, 18:35
I think a 1-6 at 24.5oz for 1k will not go well.

The weight is reason number one why I'm not interested. But the amount of noise against Geissele (no matter how valid) lately drowns out the valid complaints.

That said, this scope makes no sense to me.

docsherm
24 January 2020, 19:09
Do tell......

Well, that last ciuple of rail variants have been trash and that great 1999 technology of a scope mount that they came out with that all of the fanboys are going crazy over. A non QD scope mount was dumped 20 plus ago.

VIPER 237
25 January 2020, 19:17
I think a 1-6 at 24.5oz for 1k will not go well.

Wait for a 30% sale and get it at 700-ish.

tact
26 January 2020, 11:33
Well, that last ciuple of rail variants have been trash and that great 1999 technology of a scope mount that they came out with that all of the fanboys are going crazy over. A non QD scope mount was dumped 20 plus ago.

Sounds like some personal angst.....

I’m curious why you deem the rails trash, especially considering past purchases from PSA and Century Arms. It is comical, however, to read that non QDs scope mounts were dumped 20 years ago. Having said that I’d still be curious to hear your thoughts on why a QD scope mount is the end all be all.

docsherm
26 January 2020, 14:00
Sounds like some personal angst.....

I’m curious why you deem the rails trash, especially considering past purchases from PSA and Century Arms. It is comical, however, to read that non QDs scope mounts were dumped 20 years ago. Having said that I’d still be curious to hear your thoughts on why a QD scope mount is the end all be all.

When they got rhe GOV contract a few yesrs ago the started to crank out their rails and their QA/QC went to Sh!t. Even before that i have had issues with their rails coming loose and my lasers were all over the place.

As for a QD scope mount.... it is simply a a utilitarian point. A QD scope mount that will hold zero is a must for any rifle that is taken into combat. If the scope fails or is damaged to the point that it cannot be used at all will render a weapon usless unless you can have BUIS. This was figured out back at the beginning of GWOT. Also, as offset sights are not in the MIL inventory this is a huge issue. When i had a Short Dot on my weapon i liked to also be able to switch it out to a EOTECH depending on the mission.

Now if we are only talking about hobby grade stuff then it really doesn't matter.

voodoo_man
26 January 2020, 16:32
Guess we will have to see what happens when it gets in the wild.

Honestly, I think the masses in the industry are so fucking stupid they'd probably buy it and love it, especially at that price point.

I want to see a comparison between this and the HD2 razor.

tact
26 January 2020, 17:13
When they got rhe GOV contract a few yesrs ago the started to crank out their rails and their QA/QC went to Sh!t. Even before that i have had issues with their rails coming loose and my lasers were all over the place.

As for a QD scope mount.... it is simply a a utilitarian point. A QD scope mount that will hold zero is a must for any rifle that is taken into combat. If the scope fails or is damaged to the point that it cannot be used at all will render a weapon usless unless you can have BUIS. This was figured out back at the beginning of GWOT. Also, as offset sights are not in the MIL inventory this is a huge issue. When i had a Short Dot on my weapon i liked to also be able to switch it out to a EOTECH depending on the mission.

Now if we are only talking about hobby grade stuff then it really doesn't matter.

Interesting data on the rails, as that specifically is the reason why I use them.....no flex for my lasers and they’ve been solid for me.......maybe I’ve got old stock. I will check my upper when it arrives.

As far as the scope mount, I guess we were at a different GWOT......and even to this day QD scope mounts are not the norm.

docsherm
26 January 2020, 17:42
Guess we will have to see what happens when it gets in the wild.

Honestly, I think the masses in the industry are so fucking stupid they'd probably buy it and love it, especially at that price point.

I want to see a comparison between this and the HD2 razor.

I have to agree with you 100%.

docsherm
26 January 2020, 17:45
Interesting data on the rails, as that specifically is the reason why I use them.....no flex for my lasers and they’ve been solid for me.......maybe I’ve got old stock. I will check my upper when it arrives.

As far as the scope mount, I guess we were at a different GWOT......and even to this day QD scope mounts are not the norm.


What GWOT, i deployed to all 5 OEFs and OIF..... so i have no idea where you were.

It all really depents on what units, and type, you were deployed with. I know all kf the teams i deployed on everyone had a QD scope mount, if that were using a scope.

As for Geissele, i don't like their stuff. They made a product for JSOC, that was a huge improvement from what we were given. Then the company tried to use the exact same design for the AR platform and that caused problems. It is never a good itea to retrofit an item for a differnst platform. That indexing tab on the 416 licked the G rails on. That isn't there on the AR platform. The little index screws on the side were not a very good solution.

But i really don't care if people use them. And most people wwill never have an issue with them as they will take kore shots on IG then the range.

UWone77
26 January 2020, 18:02
Wait for a 30% sale and get it at 700-ish.

Still too high IMHO. LE/MIL you could get a Razor 1-6 for $799 at times... I think Geissele should have started at 700. With everyone going to 1-8, and now 1-10, I don't know what market Geissele is trying to cut into for 1k.

Stone
26 January 2020, 19:55
GWOT?

UWone77
26 January 2020, 20:33
GWOT?

Global War on Terror?

Joelski
27 January 2020, 04:38
Geissele wants our tenspots?

:D

I thought it was a remarked Razor/venture.

docsherm
28 January 2020, 07:52
Still too high IMHO. LE/MIL you could get a Razor 1-6 for $799 at times... I think Geissele should have started at 700. With everyone going to 1-8, and now 1-10, I don't know what market Geissele is trying to cut into for 1k.

This is 100% fact.