Let’s talk about MRO’s

[mustangfreek]

Ok, kinda need some input. On this adventure I decided to liquidate the Vortex red dot and take advantage of a recent sale and picked up a MRO. Well first one I’ve played with, only other quality red dot I had, was a Aimpoint Pro years ago.

Ok, so I see a tail off it at 4 and 10 o clock. Given it’s dark and rainy today, but the dot looks better when looking against a light backdrop.

This is on setting 3, any higher and it looks like a star. Lower at setting 2 and it’s barely visible.

Had the woman and youngest teenager look thru it, they say the same, tails at about the same as I see.


So..how much is acceptable I guess? In my eyes I would hope perfect. Should I contact Trijicon?


Also, just plying round in the House, t about 15 feet, I can’t read the big ass clock in digital numbers..blurry but not..humm..maybe I should of stayed the course for a H1..[bash]..I mean I want to like it, just the somewhat blurry dot bugs me..maybe better on a clear, sunny day?

[Former11B]

Take a picture of it with your phone

If it’s a perfect circle, it’s yalls eyes. If the tail shows, it’s the optic. Given that three people see the same thing, it’s likely either there OR you told them in advance and they think they see it. [BD]

[UWone77]

Take a picture of it with your phone

If it’s a perfect circle, it’s yalls eyes. If the tail shows, it’s the optic. Given that three people see the same thing, it’s likely either there OR you told them in advance and they think they see it. [BD]

This.

I'm guessing it's your eyes. Usually is.

[mustangfreek]

Well I didn’t tell anyone, asked them to look thru it and told me what they say. Gonna pull it out and check to see what it looks like when I rotate it around.

I save up for a decent optic and I’m not happy. 2 rifles sacrificed stuff for this. I don’t have a complete AR at the moment..About to fire sale shit and buy something complete.The fucking vortex crossfire red dot I let go for this has a clear dot. Just did t like some of its features.

Now I’m curious how a H2 or such looks like, heard many people like the ta44 mini agog for astigmatisms.

[mustangfreek]

Quick pic, crappy as my iPad sux when airdropping.

I see a better dot when I was outside shortly ago ,somewhat sunny day. On 4, past that and it sux
The tint is sure prevalent.

Are the h2/T2’s the same or better?

[UWone77]

Maybe it's just me, but I think that dot looks fine.

[Former11B]

Maybe it's just me, but I think that dot looks fine.

Same

FreakyPony, take a photo on the dimmest camera visible setting where you can see the tail

[mustangfreek]

Lol

Just never played with one of these till now. It did look better outside when it wasn’t dark and gloomy out..

I’ll try to get that later

[Stone]

Looks good to me as well. Dont forget that your not supposed to actually look at the dot. Aim at a target and keep your eyes open and then see how it looks. Its kind of like a rear site, its in the sight picture but your not looking directly at it. You should only be looking at your target.

Also the brightness should be as low as possible. My T2 will star out if its up to high. Also do you have it pushed all the way forward on the upper?

To close to the eye and you may pick up an anomoly...

[mustangfreek]

Oh I get all that..So you guys that have mro’s And pros and t1/2’s, Eotech, etc..

Out of curiousity..Do you see any of them better/worse then others?

[mustangfreek]

Maybe it's just me, but I think that dot looks fine.

To the camera...lol...


Same
FreakyPony, take a photo on the dimmest camera visible setting where you can see the tail

I can’t get the dot and camera to play together..

[gatordev]

Oh I get all that..So you guys that have mro’s And pros and t1/2’s, Eotech, etc..

Out of curiousity..Do you see any of them better/worse then others?

The problem with that question is that they all display the dot differently. I've only looked through a Gen 1 MRO once, so I can't comment on them, but PROs and T1s have a different lens configuration than the T2, which results in more comma-ing than a T2. The Eotech has a completely different emitter, so it tends to not cause much issue for the average astigmatism, even under magnification.

Previously, with my glasses on, I found the PRO/T1 to be very usable at 1x. At 3x, the T1 would start to fall apart for me. The T2 was fantastic magnified and was always a consistent round dot.

I just got some upgraded eyes, but they're still healing, so I can't give valid data, but I have noticed that even now, while every point light source is blurry, the T2 is better than the other Aimpoints and the Eotech is better than the T2 and nearly unnoticeable from before.

[Pyzik]

Dot looks good to me.

I have a pretty bad astigmatism. Most dots look more like a bug hit a windshield to me.
Strangely, my buddy has a Vortex strikefire and the dot looks perfect to me. I was amazed when I looked through it. That was the first time I had ever seen a clean, circular dot. It was amazing. haha.

I've looked through an MRO with a green dot that was almost perfect too. Not sure why.

EDIT: Thinking about it, the Vortex had a green dot too (just confirmed with friend). I wonder if there is something there, being green. Hmm!

[Former11B]

@pyzik

I’ve read on other forums/articles that green reticles are much cleaner to astigmatism sufferers than red colored dots. I’m sure there’s a rod/cone/optometry answer out there but that’s as much as I got for you [BD]

[Pyzik]

@pyzik

I’ve read on other forums/articles that green reticles are much cleaner to astigmatism sufferers than red colored dots. I’m sure there’s a rod/cone/optometry answer out there but that’s as much as I got for you [BD]Hmm. Not I may begin considering swapping what I can for green dots.

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[mustangfreek]

I have heard both ways in the green models.. wish I could look thru one

[SpartyME]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/3341cb21c1b7a1cce0567b4547620f62.jpg
Here’s what my MRO green looks like when getting the camera to focus on the front of it

[SpartyME]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/6fc2765e25f152aa559fa9bd54712ca7.jpg
And what it looks like when focusing on a “target”

[tact]

I think the greens washout to much for me.

[mustangfreek]

Nice.

I sold the red and picked up a green. Reticle looks better to me and others in the house. Seems I need it on one click higher setting.

I’ve been playing with it, not shot with it yet. But i like it so far.

[Aragorn]

Better as in just preference? Or do you have an astigmatism and the dot just looks better with the green? My red MRO’s dot looks like a canted 8 with my right eye.

[mustangfreek]

Both

I had 2 newer mro’s and the red dot was moon shaped and the tint was really noticeable

The green reticle on this one is almost perfect to me and the tint seems much less

[Aragorn]

Huh, interesting! I had gotten a Vortex UH-1 holo sight thinking that was my best way around, but I’ll have to look into a green MRO now. Good deal. Can’t say I’ve been super pleased with Vortex products thus far.

[UWone77]

I like Red... I'm used to Red. LOL.

Seems like more people have astigmatism than I thought.