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Former11B
13 July 2020, 10:47
ECCO AAC Mini-4 51t to Plan A Conversion


AAC 51t Brakeout: 4.2oz
Old weight: 14.0oz
Total: 18.2oz

Griffin EZ Brake: 2.0oz
New weight (with Plan A): 15.2oz
Total: 17.2oz. (1 ounce lighter overall)

https://i.imgur.com/gSlcIJC.jpg

Plan A installed
https://i.imgur.com/3Q2HdGj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Nvv5TO6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vhBzfQy.jpg

The work is exceptionally done.

alamo5000
13 July 2020, 11:05
That looks fantastic. How long did it take them to do this? I don't know how the original mount attached to the rest of the suppressor but it looks like great work. (I am wondering if they had to cut the mount off the can or whatever)

It looks like it could be a whole lot more complicated than what most people would expect.

Former11B
13 July 2020, 12:44
They had to cut the old latch off, weld on some new 17-4 with female 1.375” Omega pattern threads (I could remove the plan A and use mounts from YHM, Dead Air, Q, SiCo etc) and then refinish it and install the Plan A (exterior has male Omega pattern threads and interior is designed for Griffin taper mounts

Former11B
13 July 2020, 12:52
Old latch cut off:

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New meat welded in before refinishing:

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They received my can on June 20 and finished it last Thursday...received it today. So about 3 weeks with transit. Nick, the guru at Ecco, is working like 16-18 hour days to keep up with the demand

alamo5000
13 July 2020, 14:33
Dude. That takes a lot of skill and it looks awesome. Just getting the two ends to line up with each other would be frustrating without having the perfect tools for the job.

He definitely did a good job on the weld and refinish as well.

Former11B
13 July 2020, 17:07
Dude. That takes a lot of skill and it looks awesome. Just getting the two ends to line up with each other would be frustrating without having the perfect tools for the job.

He definitely did a good job on the weld and refinish as well.

Ecco has an amazing setup, that’s for sure. And the coolest part (I think) is that as clean and as tidy as that weld is, it’s done BY HAND. He has the metal on a rotary machine where he controls the speed, but the torch is in his hand. I’d put that up against a robotic weld in terms of clean lines and proper penetration etc

alamo5000
13 July 2020, 17:33
Honestly I've been fascinated with things like this for ages. Learning how to weld and use a lathe or CNC machine is very interesting to me. Of course I've never done any of it but I like it a lot.

Hand welding like that is just amazing.

UWone77
13 July 2020, 18:22
Dude... this is awesome work.

If/When my 51T latches wear out, I'm definitely doing this.

Former11B
14 July 2020, 06:39
Three AAC cans and a Griffin converted to KeyMo
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There’s not a lot he can’t do. I’ve only seen a couple things turned down and it was due to tolerances or construction of whatever particular item not “allowing” for this type of work without being ruined

UWone77
14 July 2020, 15:23
Bro... those KeyMo AAC Cans. Amazing. Makes me glad I've been investing in more KeyMo muzzle devices over the 51T. The Dead Air is also more reasonable in their costs too.

alamo5000
14 July 2020, 17:15
I am not 100% familiar with Keymo. I mean I have seen it online but have never played with it in person. It kind of looks like a taper mount variant right?

You screw this part into the base of the suppressor then put it over the muzzle device. Obviously it doesn't ratchet like the 51T but you just snug it up with that collar, correct?

https://deadairsilencers.com/product/key-mo/

Does that mounting system have any play in it at all or is it solid solid once you put it on? The Griffin mounts (the only ones I've ever personally tried) are pretty straight forward with no moving parts. I am wondering in comparison to that baseline how prone are the Keymo's to have play in the system or whatever?

I don't think they would ever completely back off (not that it's a big problem with 99.99% of suppressors) but I am kind of curious now.

Also what role do those little shim/washers play?

alamo5000
14 July 2020, 17:21
Well this kind of answers my questions... google. It's a thing. [:D]

So if you have experience with both regular (to me) taper mounts vs Keymo what are the pros and cons to each?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w9DVYZ0P6M

alamo5000
14 July 2020, 17:30
Three AAC cans and a Griffin converted to KeyMo
7464


That one Griffin one was previously the gate lock type from Griffin. I am not at all a fan of that type of mount (gate lock) so to me you definitely gave that can an upgrade based on what I see online about these two.

mustangfreek
15 July 2020, 02:17
Ya I watch that thread on the other site.His work speaks for itself.

Looking good

VIPER 237
15 July 2020, 08:12
Taper style have better and more repeatable poi shift, but the keymo is one of the most secure ways of attaching a suppressor, but adds weight and oal.


Well this kind of answers my questions... google. It's a thing. [:D]

So if you have experience with both regular (to me) taper mounts vs Keymo what are the pros and cons to each?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w9DVYZ0P6M