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alamo5000
12 June 2021, 16:27
I try to plan out my purchases and now I'm back around to shotguns.

Here are some features that I would like. If anything like this exists please let me know.

Semi Auto with the shortest barrel available (can't remember if it's 16 or 18 inches before it becomes an SBS)

I want to be able to mount a light on it as well as a red dot and definitely a sling.

Obviously it's not going to be a duck hunting gun so the more capacity the better.

Any recommendations along those lines would help me to get started shopping around.

Stone
12 June 2021, 16:57
Benelli M1014 M4 almost bought one a while back...

OneGearhead
12 June 2021, 20:36
Benelli M4 is ALWAYS a top option. But also, I’ve been seeing and reading a good bit on this one, and haven’t heard of anybody unhappy with it. The Beretta 1301. They look good too! I don’t know if they still make it or not, but FN made a shorty tactical shottie as well. A former friend owned one. Shot VERY WELL.


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Joelski
13 June 2021, 09:26
CZ for a quarter of the price.

BoilerUp
13 June 2021, 18:16
Have you checked out the Tavor? Kinda cool

UWone77
14 June 2021, 00:05
The days of the $250-300 Remington 870P are over, but I'd still look at an 870P. One of the most proven shotties out there.

Obviously if you can swing it, a Benelli M4 as others have suggested is the best of the best.

Aragorn
14 June 2021, 06:20
Am I the only one with love for the M2? I think I’d just as soon have one of those as the M4.

UWone77
14 June 2021, 11:41
Am I the only one with love for the M2? I think I’d just as soon have one of those as the M4.

Definitely has the weight advantage. Costs less too. I don't think you can go wrong with any Benelli Shotgun.

The only Benelli I have is a 828U, love to eventually get a M2 or M4

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14 June 2021, 13:19
https://www.langdontactical.com/ltt-1301-shotgun-closed-please-add-your-name-to-the-wishlist/

The 1301 will be cheaper, lighter, and more reliable with lighter rounds than the M4 (though this is really only an issue for training, wouldn't really matter when shooting full power defensive loads).

Stone
14 June 2021, 13:47
Benelli M4 Entry/CQB 14" GRS 12GA Shotgun, whish SBS's were legal here...
https://www.riflegear.com/p-6060-benelli-m4-entrycqb-14-grs-12ga-shotgun-sbs-le-only.aspx


Here is an M2 shorty thats in stock: https://www.impactguns.com/Short-Barrel-Shotgun/Benelli-M2-LE-Entry-12-Ga-14-Pistol-Grip-Black-Synthetic-NFA-Rules-Apply-LIMITED-SUPPLY-650350110388-11038/

alamo5000
14 June 2021, 14:22
Thanks for the ideas guys. For sure. It definitely gives me a place to start shopping. It won't be an immediate purchase but it gives me something to work towards.

I will take a look at all the suggestions and see if anything jumps out at me. I have no idea what the price point is on any of these but then again I am not super price sensitive given that the product warrants the price. I would rather buy two or three nice quality than 7 or 8 things with questionable workmanship.

MoxyDave
14 June 2021, 18:02
I have all the M-series Benelli semi-autos. I take out the M1 Super 90 a lot more often than the others. Yes, the M4 is a beast and is <probably> more reliable with various loads, but man the M1 is so light compared to the others! I could carry it all day. Mine came from a police department so it may have been tuned. It certainly has seen a lot of rounds. The action is just buttery smooth. Not sure if a brand new one would be quite so nice, but for me the M1 is the shotgun I would keep above all others. Mine works great even with crappy low-brass Walmart birdshot, too.

OneGearhead
14 June 2021, 19:01
The days of the $250-300 Remington 870P are over, but I'd still look at an 870P. One of the most proven shotties out there.

Obviously if you can swing it, a Benelli M4 as others have suggested is the best of the best.

I love my 870!! It was an 870P. But then. They changed to an 870 Express Synthetic Tactical 6+1. [emoji849] Haha

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OneGearhead
14 June 2021, 19:16
Definitely has the weight advantage. Costs less too. I don't think you can go wrong with any Benelli Shotgun.

The only Benelli I have is a 828U, love to eventually get a M2 or M4

I want to shoot an 828U so bad! When I bought my 686 Silver Pigeon I Sporting, the 828’s either weren’t out yet, or they were $1k ABOVE the 686. I handled one once, and it just felt RIGHT! Which clay sports do you participate in?


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UWone77
15 June 2021, 18:06
I want to shoot an 828U so bad! When I bought my 686 Silver Pigeon I Sporting, the 828’s either weren’t out yet, or they were $1k ABOVE the 686. I handled one once, and it just felt RIGHT! Which clay sports do you participate in?


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I actually looked at the Silver Pigeon, but decided to go with the Benelli just on the name. I used to shoot trap weekly pre-pandemic as I had a pretty regular trap partner who wanted to go all the time. After the pandemic started, they closed down that range for a little while, but I haven't been back since they reopened.

BoilerUp
15 June 2021, 18:58
Pretty positive review a few weeks ago on the 1301 from TFB. Honestly wasn't really on my radar, but has my interest now:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI9wCsFKW9E

alamo5000
15 June 2021, 19:15
Pretty positive review a few weeks ago on the 1301 from TFB. Honestly wasn't really on my radar, but has my interest now:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI9wCsFKW9E

Thanks man! That's definitely in the ballpark of what I would consider.

Stone
16 June 2021, 07:47
Good video Boiler! 2lbs lighter than the Benelli, $700 cheaper and it looks like its a reliable platform. Looks like a great option for home defense with minimal upgrades needed... Any idea how long the 1301 has been out?

alamo5000
16 June 2021, 20:33
Found this as a follow up to Boiler's video. Side by side comparison with the M4...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7IcIpxFaLU

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16 June 2021, 21:22
Good video Boiler! 2lbs lighter than the Benelli, $700 cheaper and it looks like its a reliable platform. Looks like a great option for home defense with minimal upgrades needed... Any idea how long the 1301 has been out?The 1301 has been around for quite some time now (hit the market in 2014, IIRC), and was an evolution of the TX4. There is a very long thread on it on pistol-forum: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?10177-Beretta-1301-Tactical

Stone
17 June 2021, 11:20
Thank you! As far as speed reloading and general rifle manipulations skills which model is better, one with a pistol grip or without the grip? Seems to me the pistol grip would slow things down a little and possibly get in the way since a shotgun is different than an AR15... I dont currently own a shotgun but was curious what the pro's and con's of each would be...

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17 June 2021, 17:59
Thank you! As far as speed reloading and general rifle manipulations skills which model is better, one with a pistol grip or without the grip? Seems to me the pistol grip would slow things down a little and possibly get in the way since a shotgun is different than an AR15... I dont currently own a shotgun but was curious what the pro's and con's of each would be...I'm not into shotguns, but I've never heard anyone say anything about pistol gripped shotguns being worth a shit outside of looking cool and for breaching use.

Joelski
18 June 2021, 09:38
This looks mildly interesting. Decent price and 100% American made.

https://blackwaterworldwide.com/sentry-12-shotgun/

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mustangfreek
19 June 2021, 05:20
Lolz..No

And Benelli is overpriced Gucci shit

That is all

Aragorn
19 June 2021, 08:01
Someone drank the haterade this morning…

mustangfreek
20 June 2021, 04:34
No

Just my opinion. , since it’s being talked about

BoilerUp
15 April 2023, 14:32
Local proposed legislation about to make the M1014 an "Assault Weapon" so figured it was finally time

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wChKDzZ/2/29c74e8b/X2/i-wChKDzZ-X2.jpg

Joelski
15 April 2023, 15:11
The SBS is a great breacher, but it needs a box mag to make it great sweeper. Probably not enough gas to cycle a semi, but you'd think one of the italian gang would have figured it out by now.

UWone77
15 April 2023, 19:24
Local proposed legislation about to make the M1014 an "Assault Weapon" so figured it was finally time

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wChKDzZ/2/29c74e8b/X2/i-wChKDzZ-X2.jpg

One of the few I did not end up picking up before the ban here. Already spent too much coin. Good purchase though. Congrats.