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Uglyduck
25 June 2009, 23:17
Anyone have information on this? John?


http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/5d4581bb95f26a805ea3ade95c81f119.jpg

m24shooter
26 June 2009, 05:26
A couple of us are testing them.

Uglyduck
26 June 2009, 07:27
Will a review be posted or am I jumping the gun?

John Hwang
26 June 2009, 08:20
There are about 15-20 comps out for testing along with a few we sold with our Combat uppers. So far the feedback has been positive. Full production will follow shortly. We're hoping to get a review done shortly.

Stickman
26 June 2009, 08:51
I know that mine is slated to through .mil firing in a little bit along with the melonite hammer forged barrel from ST. Hopefully some of the guys who currently have them can get some of their input posted.

Mr.Goodtimes
26 June 2009, 09:16
that thing looks sweet. is it supposed to suppress flash as well?

Paulo_Santos
26 June 2009, 13:55
Is it a Flash Hider or a Muzzle Brake? Will it also be available in the 5/8x24 threads for the 6.8SPC?

gotm4
27 June 2009, 04:28
It looks kind of like a Bennie Cooley JP brake but the front end is like a Vortex flash hider. It should work pretty well.

Hojutsu
27 June 2009, 05:29
Actually, the front end looks like an AAC Blackout (http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=29#pid=150)

Chainring
1 July 2009, 18:54
That's slick - looks like a cross between an AAC Blackout and a Bennie Cooley. I look forward to trying one of those. Hope it rings like my blackouts! :)

NickDrak
1 July 2009, 19:35
I have one that I am planning on running on another build that I have in the works right now. I may install it on my lightweight build that I just finished, as I am planning on taking it out to the range to zero it next week, so I can give some feed back on the new comp.

m24shooter
1 July 2009, 19:53
Is it a Flash Hider or a Muzzle Brake?
Yes.

Paulo_Santos
2 July 2009, 05:34
Yes.

Let me re-phrease it. Is this thing NJ legal like the FSC556 and FSC30?

m24shooter
2 July 2009, 06:49
Let me re-phrease it. Is this thing NJ legal like the FSC556 and FSC30?
Now that I'm not sure about. If the NJ statute mirrors the old Fed AWB I would imagine it would be classified as a flash hider since it does do that, but I know some comps also have tines as well. It might require a technical ruling. sorry I can't help you more on that. Maybe John can post on that if he's got some info in that regard.

Paulo_Santos
2 July 2009, 16:50
Now that I'm not sure about. If the NJ statute mirrors the old Fed AWB I would imagine it would be classified as a flash hider since it does do that, but I know some comps also have tines as well. It might require a technical ruling. sorry I can't help you more on that. Maybe John can post on that if he's got some info in that regard.

Since it is very similar to the FSC556, I would think it would be good to go in the Communist States.

m24shooter
2 July 2009, 17:50
Yeah, I know what you mean. The problem is that in extending the property of rational thought to a government in general and AWB laws in particular one is often giving both too much credit.

Stickman
4 July 2009, 09:18
Since it is very similar to the FSC556, I would think it would be good to go in the Communist States.


The FSC556 was submitted to BATF with a request for ruling. It might be a good idea for RA to do the same thing when their production run is finalized.

John Hwang
6 July 2009, 10:06
Rainier Arms has been in contact with the BATFE and awaiting response.

Uglyduck
1 September 2009, 19:22
Bump for an update

NickDrak
11 September 2009, 00:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0xkUXUkGQM

Policetacteam
11 September 2009, 15:17
The video definitely shows promise. I would like to see that same video but in a low light / no light setting to truly get a feeling for how much flash is truly going to be suppressed.

Romeo Foxtrot
11 September 2009, 17:45
is this brake comparable to the surefire brake? more effective? less? about the same?

Stickman
11 September 2009, 20:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0xkUXUkGQM



Good vid, it shows it well.

Deputy224
22 September 2009, 20:36
I think the Rainier Arms Compensator is very interesting. What it looks like to me is a 4 prong version of the AAC Blackout on the end of the Patriot Ordnance factory compensator. I have to wonder how much flash suppression you get with the comp before the prongs. It would be a better choice than the stock POF comp on my rifle however.

The 2 top dogs of flash suppression seem to be the Vortex and the Blackout. What I'd like to know is there enough difference between the two in terms of effective flash to really matter? Obviously people have asthetic choices and also a preference to the type of can they mount. We can own suppressors in my state but can't actually shoot them on a weapon. So I am sticking to pure effectiveness. I've seen most of the threads about this, including Sticks with the always great pics.

Does anyone have any actual experience with both flash hiders, and have an opinion as to which is more effective?

Uglyduck
22 September 2009, 21:23
Considering that your questions pertain to flash suppressors other than the extreme comp. you may want to start a new thread to answer them as they may get more viewing traffic.

Eric
29 September 2009, 07:15
I've been using one for a couple months now.
XTC Review. (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13310#post13310)

OutlawDon
12 December 2009, 18:17
What is the overall length of this and also how much length is added to barrel once it's installed?

Castillo
16 December 2009, 11:54
Is this ever going to be available? Is there an expected release date?

OutlawDon
16 December 2009, 11:57
Is this ever going to be available? Is there an expected release date?

It's available already....

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1684

Castillo
16 December 2009, 11:59
Thanks, I actually just searched RainerArms before posting, but looked for brakes, not comps.

m118lr
22 December 2009, 14:20
I saw this compensator on photo of a rifle that was on this forum. This is the first time I am seeing this comp. I might need to try one.


The video definitely shows promise. I would like to see that same video but in a low light / no light setting to truly get a feeling for how much flash is truly going to be suppressed.

I would also like to see this.

jeffy
22 December 2009, 15:47
What is the overall length of this and also how much length is added to barrel once it's installed?Can someone answer this?

Eric
22 December 2009, 16:21
The XTC has on overall length of 2.20”, but I don't know how much length it adds to the barrel when installed.

m24shooter
22 December 2009, 16:51
Looks to be about 1.72" on my rig.

Army Chief
22 December 2009, 17:08
Didn't get home in time to address this earlier, but I just got the same basic measurements.

AC

jeffy
22 December 2009, 20:48
Thanks guy's!

Will the XTC be sent to the BATF for an official classification?

federalist22
23 December 2009, 05:00
You can buy one on Rainier Arms' site now.

m24shooter
23 December 2009, 06:36
Thanks guy's!

Will the XTC be sent to the BATF for an official classification?
I believe John has asked for a finding but I don't know that he's gotten it.

Castillo
16 February 2010, 13:11
Thanks guy's!

Will the XTC be sent to the BATF for an official classification?

I recall reading that the BATFE no longer will make a ruling on brake/comp v. flash hider

Uglyduck
1 March 2010, 13:43
Any night video yet?

NickDrak
3 March 2010, 21:28
Any night video yet?

I will see if I can get one up for you guys in the next week or so.

willardcw4
22 March 2010, 22:58
Any updates???

rebelEMPIRE
1 April 2010, 00:04
Any ideas when these will be back in stock, Mr. John Hwang? I'd like one for my soon to be SPR. =)

-rebelEMPIRE

Devilphish
10 April 2010, 10:26
It's back in stock. If Rainier doesn't have something in stock, click on the Notify Me button and you'll get an email when it does.

federalist22
8 May 2010, 15:13
I took a few day shots of the XTC I had installed on my S&W M&P15 (Ares Piston System). My wife was shooting it so I captured some video and took stills out with Picasa. The flash was non-existent in the frames before and after the frames below. As a compensator, it performed as well (I thought) as my PWS FSC556.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv358/federalist22/2010_May_shooting051.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv358/federalist22/2010_May_shooting049.jpg

turbulence
8 May 2010, 21:37
*more information and pics to come*

I installed the XTC comp and have been eager to try it out. I've been shooting for a couple of years using the standard A2 cage (so quite familiar with the sound) and its recoil and have had some shooting time with the PWS 556.

my setup : S&W MP15, carbine buffer, enhanced AR15 carrier. Ammo was 55 fmj bullet with 25 grains of TAC powder.

Recoil : Was somewhat lessened, and muzzle rise was noticeably less than the A2 birdcage. Not as effective, IMO than the PWS 556 but...

Sound : MUCH more pleasant than the PWS. The PWS can best be described as a sinus rattling shock wave. Firing the XTC, I never felt the shock wave, matter of fact the report was only slightly louder than birdcage!

Mind you I wear 33dB ear plugs so the sound gets deadened...
Overall, I would recommend this comp to someone who is spends his time at the shooting bench or who does timed tactical shooting or training. However, the PWS seems to have a slight edge in eliminating more muzzle rise so I would still recommend the PWS for competitions, at the cost of a much more unpleasant sound.

sangria7
5 July 2010, 06:17
hi guys - I am new to the forums and been trolling, but am not new to the AR Platform. Been firing them since 1996 when I first joined the Army [I was a Light Cav Scout].

So anyone have anymore feedback on this XTC?

sangria7
17 July 2010, 13:05
Well I went ahead and bought the XTC. I am happy with it overall. It may not the best comp out there but it works really well. Muzzle rise is minimal now - of course maybe b/c the Army never issues them so going from a standard A2 to this is a big difference.

dennisuello
21 December 2011, 08:34
will the 6.8XPC version work with 300AAC barrel (the thread pitch is the same)?

m24shooter
10 June 2012, 08:21
Necropost, but with reason. I had some nice testing yesterday. Range day with a few friends, one a complete newb to shooting, one Marine, and another female who had shot, but never an AR. I had an A4 with standard comp and then my pre-production XTC on a middy BCM carbine.
The middy with the XTC was a winner in terms of preference and shootability. I shot on line with them right next to the XTC and it wasn't a problem with me. It did a great job with controllability, which I already knew, but the female who hadn't shot an AR and her Marine husband had a great time with it. So much so that they have decided they want a middy carbine like this set up.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/282353_367450336643264_1518787961_n.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/255495_367145876673710_577178166_n.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/229992_367148410006790_1549742004_n.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/562400_367456776642620_389578835_n.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/542371_367456566642641_1088892212_n.jpg