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Urban Tactical Gear
1 September 2009, 12:33
After a lengthy discussion with Gene over at High Speed Gear Inc yesterday, we made the determination that I would proceed with my "review" of his new Taco Pouch. All pictures contained here-in are the sole property of urbantacticalgearreview.com and should not be used without expressed written permission by the owner.

There have been several beta testers, and I know at least one of them posts on this board, so Stickman i'd like you to post up in this topic as well.

First a little back ground on the pouch:
One of our (the United States of America) Special Forces guy approached High Speed Gear with a unique, but not uncommon issue. He needed a pouch to carry both M1A magazines as well as m4 magazines. The fast mag just would not fit the M1A .308 sized magazines. So the guys sat down and came up with this pouch. However they took it one step farther. It fits almost every rifle caliber magazine known to man.

To the guys in the field:
Imagine your MBR crapping out on you in the most in-opportune time. Gotta do a battle field pick up? maybe grab some magazines off a dead haji? this pouch would fit your bill. remove your MBR magazines, put em in your third line (or drop them) and insert new battlefield pickup magazines. that simple.

Urban Tactical Gear
1 September 2009, 12:34
This is the new HSGI Taco Pouch. I lovingly refer to it as Topher's Taco.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0211.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0214.jpg

The Taco Pouch is basically a piece of double layer codura folded in half with kydex riveted onto it. It uses three methods of retention. The first line of retention relies on shock cord, which is woven in between the pals channels on the front and back of the pouch. The second level of retention is hook and loop on the interior of the pouch. It is to be used with a 1" square mounted on your magazine. The third, should you desire it, is bungee pull tabs that go over the magazine. While not a stock option, they can be readily added, as the loops are sewn into every model.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0230.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0231.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0225.jpg

The rivets are kydex as well, and are secured on the bottom of the pouch, where a drain hole would normally go. This pouch does not have a drain hole due specifically to the design of the pouch.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0215.jpg

While the sides are constructed out of kydex, and firmly held in place by the shock cord, you will notice some space in between the front, back, and sides depending on what type of magazine you use. the thicker the magazine, the wider the gap. This directly relates to why there is not a drain hole. as gene put it last night, easy in, easy out.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0212.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0219.jpg

As you all have read in the past, i'm always looking for a good alternative magazine pouch for AK magazines, as that is what i currently run. My favorites are the DBT short m4 pouches, which i've yet to find a flaw with. The Taco pouch is a direct competitor to that pouch. The size of the pouch is almost the same size as the dbt pouches, and are well suited for 20 round ak magazines.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0220.jpg

There are a few things that bother me about this pouch.
1) first and foremost being the shock cord retention being the way that this pouch is held together. It's not the tolerances at which the cord is manufactored. The breaking strength of shock cord exceeds 4000 lbs. My concern was what happens when it encounters a sharp edge (broken glass, razor wire, etc). After i got to thinking about it, most everyone packs at least a little paracord with them, or can take some shoe laces off the enemy to repair it with. just tie it off until you can get back to base and properly repair it.
2) Being a couch commando i can and will bitch about the aesthetics of this pouch. it's down right friggin ugly.
3) not every magazine is the same size. whether they are wider or taller. at some point you will have to adjust the length of the shock cord. if you need to really cinch it down, it's not easily done. the shock cord's ending point is on the back of the pouch, under the malice clips. so you can just grab a hold of them and yank.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0213.jpg
4) because of the shock cord terminating behind the malice clips, it does push downward on the clips. on both the pouches i received for this testing, where the malice clip folds over it is putting a bit more stress on the pals webbing, and in turn the stitching holding on. I have yet to have a failure with it (there again i'm not out jumping over walls or low crawling every day), but should that failure occur, that isn't something that is easily repaired.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/DSCF0225.jpg

To the shock cord issue, I've suggested maybe including those cord thingies that are on the UMMPS, and installing them on when your weaving the cord upwards after the first pals channel from the bottom, on the front. then when you bring the shock cord back down run it back through the do-dads. making cinching it down a little easier.

I'm hoping stickman will chime in here, as he has had a chance to see them as well

bigcoastie
1 September 2009, 12:41
Good to finally see them. I was talking w/ Gene a couple weeks ago and I couldn't completely understand what he was describing. It makes a lot more sense w/ pictures.

Custom-X_Sponjah
1 September 2009, 21:56
Good to finally see them. I was talking w/ Gene a couple weeks ago and I couldn't completely understand what he was describing. It makes a lot more sense w/ pictures.

How about video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DzgIUDnd3k

CXS

federalist22
2 September 2009, 04:13
I'm not big on the flimsy appearance of them--makes it seem like it would be troubling to get a mag back into them in a hurry since they lack a fixed shape at the opening. I am not big on mag pouches that fold easy or crush if laid on and then do not open back up for a reliable form. The shaking in this video is good to see, but I am not big on having too many pieces of gear that have that much play on the MOLLE. ---that's just me, but I am sure its a nice product.

Custom-X_Sponjah
2 September 2009, 06:59
I'm not big on the flimsy appearance of them--makes it seem like it would be troubling to get a mag back into them in a hurry since they lack a fixed shape at the opening. I am not big on mag pouches that fold easy or crush if laid on and then do not open back up for a reliable form. The shaking in this video is good to see, but I am not big on having too many pieces of gear that have that much play on the MOLLE. ---that's just me, but I am sure its a nice product.

The Taco is FAR from Flimsy, Being 1 Layer of Balistic Nylon Sandwiched between 2 layers of 1000d Cordura.
I have Successfully reinserted M4 and AK74 Magazines one handed easily. AK47 Magazines are also easly inserted once you get the technique down.
Another Tester on this board who has been running AR Series Magazines exclusivly has been reinserting mags ease.
This pouch has NO play on the PALS webbing. I'm not quite sure what movement you are seeing in the video... It might be the Cummerbund Flap Not 100% secure on the Plate carrier.

CXS

Urban Tactical Gear
2 September 2009, 07:17
i think he's talking about the pull on the webbing that i showed. I got around to mounting these last night. jfc they are a pain. On one of them i ended up having to start the weaving, and ending it on the front of the pouch. i just couldn't get the malice clips up over the shock cord with it started on the back. i'm thinking i actually like it better this way, as it makes adjustment a lot easier. i'll post pics in a bit.

m24shooter
2 September 2009, 07:34
Not flimsy. I just got mine so I haven't had a whole lot of time on them, but they are more stout than you would think from looking at them. As a comparison they are more rigid than the TT shingles I've got and it is not hard to put mags back in.

bigcoastie
2 September 2009, 07:49
Video is nice CXS, I'm definately going to have to pick up a couple just because of the versatility of the system.

Custom-X_Sponjah
2 September 2009, 07:56
i think he's talking about the pull on the webbing that i showed. I got around to mounting these last night. jfc they are a pain. On one of them i ended up having to start the weaving, and ending it on the front of the pouch. i just couldn't get the malice clips up over the shock cord with it started on the back. i'm thinking i actually like it better this way, as it makes adjustment a lot easier. i'll post pics in a bit.

If you have a different way of Weaving the shock cord and It works, by all means share it. But just share it here for now..

CXS

Urban Tactical Gear
2 September 2009, 08:33
all i did was reverse it from back to front:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/hsgi%20taco/DSCF0272.jpg

on the eagle plate carrier w/cummerbund, if mounting on the cummerbund itself, it should be mounted on the second row of webbing, not the top. makes the magazine ride to high, in turn making the draw difficult

JTrusty
2 September 2009, 10:49
I'm not big on the flimsy appearance of them--makes it seem like it
would be troubling to get a mag back into them in a hurry since they lack a
fixed shape at the opening.

Don't let the appearance fool you. These are extremely solid, retain their
shape and mag insertion is a breeze after about the third attempt. [BD] ( It
took me three tries before I found the fastest method of insertion )

I have been conducting my own evaluation for the past week using solely AR
pattern magazines ( standard USGI, Magpul PMAG's, Tango Down ARC mags,
etc.. ). Just as soon as I complete my evaluation, I will be sure to post my
thoughts along with pictures.

In the interim, let me say that these pouches are easily the most functional
pouches I have handled to date. My method of adjustment affords me to the
ability to run them completely open-top with no retention strap for easy
extraction. All the mags I have tested stay firmly seated in their respective
pouches regardless what I expose them to ( jumping, diving, rolling, etc... ).
Yet extraction is smooth and simple.

[:D]

m24shooter
2 September 2009, 11:33
Jason, I don't know about you but to me the easiest way seems to be cornering them in and then sliding/rotating them to alignment and then pushing down.
I haven't been running mine with retention tabs either.

JTrusty
2 September 2009, 12:06
Jason, I don't know about you but to me the easiest way seems to be cornering them in and then sliding/rotating them to alignment and then pushing down.

Correct.

I take the front corner of the mag and begin insertion. Once the front corner is
entering the pouch top, I level the mag out and push straight down. Works
every time and is lightning fast. :P

Urban Tactical Gear
2 September 2009, 12:26
that's how i've been doing it as well.

bigcoastie
2 September 2009, 14:54
2x Multicam ordered today

Custom-X_Sponjah
5 September 2009, 21:33
Here are some more pics of my Training/Go to rig, now set up with High Speed Gear, Inc. Taco Mag pouches.

I will most likely be using this rig with my M4gery or AK47.
But its nice to know that I can pick up an AK74, G3, or M1A and be able to use the same rig without modification.

Eagle Plate Carrier W/Cummerbund (ESAPI Plates inside, No Side Plates)
4 HSGI Taco Mag Pouches
1 HSGI Universal Modular Magazine Pouch (On the far Left)
2 HSGI Pistol Mag pouches
1 HSGI Mini Modular EOD Pouch (Med Kit) w/1 HSGI Tall Pistol Mag pouch (CAT Tourniquet in it and Trauma Sheers Behind It)
1 HSGI Mini Modular Admins Panel
Pair of HSGI Wa/Wee Shoulder Pads


Here's an over all Pic of my rig
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/Whole.jpg

Pic of my AR Loadout
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/AR.jpg

Pic of my AK47 Loadout
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/AK.jpg

Pic of the modularity of the rig
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/ALL-1.jpg

CXS

Stickman
5 September 2009, 23:59
I've been running dry drills with these on my belt, and so far I really like them. I need to get some more time in with them, but I'm impressed so far.

Custom-X_Sponjah
6 September 2009, 00:52
I've been running dry drills with these on my belt, and so far I really like them. I need to get some more time in with them, but I'm impressed so far.

A couple things I found out playing around with em.
They fit Smoke Grenades, Flash Bangs, and some Radios.
Just an FYI...

CXS

Urban Tactical Gear
6 September 2009, 15:22
so in thinking this through i came up with a question. would it not be a better idea to sew in loops on the side (at the points where the pals would be) and weave them through those?

here's what i'm thinking:
put a channel through the bottom of the pouch
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/edti1.gif

then instead of running the shock cord through the pals channels (which create a mounting issue as well as a aesthetics issue), sew in loops (like at the top for the tabs) at points along the sides. weave the shock cord through those, and once you get to the top, loop it through the kydex and terminate through the first eyelet down?
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/arolfsen/reviews/tophers%20taco/edit2.gif

High-Speed
6 September 2009, 16:24
Been there , Done that ! One step ......maybe several steps ahead of you there Calico . If it would have worked , I would have done that . I put a lot of time into the development of this pouch . Again another creation that is referred too as "Out-side the Box" and it is hard for some to except . This time I patented this design instead of the mistake that I made when I did not patent bungee-cord retention .
Look forward towards seeing pistol mag pouches , SAW , Med and holsters using the same positive bungee retention (PBR) in the near future .

Sorry for no intro as this is my first post , as I did not see any Introduction threads , like on some of the other forums .

Gene @ HSGI

Custom-X_Sponjah
12 September 2009, 22:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHRoYCcsjM

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/P9120029.jpg

CXS

m24shooter
13 September 2009, 08:32
Good vid.
I switched the shock cord around to the front on my tacos. I think it works better that way as far as the MALICE clips.
And your rig needs a molotov.

Urban Tactical Gear
13 September 2009, 15:15
m24, there have been others that have followed suit with my original idea of switching the shock cord from the back to the front. the general consensus is that it works better that way.

Custom-X_Sponjah
20 September 2009, 20:39
Another Magazine has been confirmed to fit..

SAIGA 12 Mags..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Brachialstun/DSC02193.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Brachialstun/DSC02195.jpg

Pics and conformation courtesy of NCPatrolAR

CXS

Stickman
20 September 2009, 23:24
Standard PMAG picture, it works very well with PMAGs.


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/WEVO%20II/IMG_0858-1024-Stick.jpg

Stickman
20 September 2009, 23:26
Taco pictured with suppressor. While I wouldn't want to throw a hot can into nylon, I was pleasantly surprised at how well it held the can in place when cool.


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/WEVO%20II/IMG_0856-1024-Stick.jpg

Stickman
20 September 2009, 23:27
Taco with standard issue pirate pistol. I'm not sure I would want this for modern engagements, but its probably been awhile since we have seen anything tactical for cap and ball....


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/WEVO%20II/IMG_0861-1024-Stick.jpg

Custom-X_Sponjah
27 September 2009, 21:57
So I stopped by HSGI on Friday to discuss some concerns about the Tightness of the PALS on the back, and the difficulty mounting. I told him my solution and he had a Taco sewn up real quick while I was there.

Its pretty simple fix, and adds 2 steps to the process of making these.
Longer webbing with bigger channels on the rear.
Looks a little funny with the Malice Clip out of it, but was a million times easier to mount it. I recommended just the middle row have this extra length, but in the quick sample he made for me all three rows have big channels.

Here are some pics..

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00294-20090925-1543.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00295-20090925-1543.jpg

Also since I was there, I started shoving random Items into it to see what it would hold well..

40mm Parachute Flare
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00292-20090925-1542.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00293-20090925-1543.jpg

XD Sub-Compact 9mm
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00299-20090925-1652.jpg

Glock 19 Fits really well.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00300-20090925-1652.jpg

Glock 17 with Weapon Light. (without weapon light it will not seat deep enough for good retention)
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00296-20090925-1651.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00297-20090925-1651.jpg

And a K5 Tomahawk
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00301-20090925-1655.jpg

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
30 September 2009, 09:15
Good News: The center Row of PALS webbing on the rear of the pouch will have the opened up channels, since that is the only Row that the MALICE clip doubles up.
This will help the pouch be attached to your Carrier or War Belt a lot easier.
Hopefully the extra steps do not increase price. But even if it does, it will be worth it to me..

Bad News: The Taco is selling faster than it is being made.
If anyone living near Camp Lejeune that knows how to sew or has relatives that can sew and need a job, Contact Becky @ HSGI..

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
2 November 2009, 18:19
Here's the setup I used during the Robin Sage Exercise with Army SF units... Had a blast fighting side by side with those guys...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF4199.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF4203.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF4204.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF4205.jpg

HSGI All Molle Popper
HSGI Taco Mag Shingles
HSGI Mini Modular EOD Pouch
HSGI Releasable H-Harness
HSGI MOOSE Pack V2

I recently left my job at the Engineering/Surveying Firm and am working Full Time for High Speed Gear, Inc.
So if you call HSGI you will most likely be talking to me.
Figured if I was gonna work my ass off, I need to at least be doing something I enjoy..
I also hope my new employment wont effect my posting abilities on certain forums..
And I still don't get gear for free... :(

CXS

m24shooter
30 November 2009, 19:25
You still washing Gene's boat?;-)
I found another mag that works well with the Taco. I've started putting AI mags in it and they fit well. The mag floorplate comes just above the top edge of the Taco. There isn't much exposed on the mag to grab onto, but the AI mag has a huge overhang of the floorplate that makes it easier to grab than it would seem. A closed cell roll or something along that line in the bottom of the Taco would make it easier to grab, but would also make the mag more prone to coming out unless you were running bungee retention straps across the top. With the extremely slick sides of the AI mags the Taco has a hard time holding the mags in when they aren't fully seated and there is no cord.
I will try to get some decent pics tomorrow.
ETA: Pics of SR25 mags-

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/taco/100_1530.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/taco/100_1531.jpg

Custom-X_Sponjah
1 December 2009, 05:30
You still washing Gene's boat?;-)
I found another mag that works well with the Taco. I've started putting AI mags in it and they fit well. The mag floorplate comes just above the top edge of the Taco. There isn't much exposed on the mag to grab onto, but the AI mag has a huge overhang of the floorplate that makes it easier to grab than it would seem. A closed cell roll or something along that line in the bottom of the Taco would make it easier to grab, but would also make the mag more prone to coming out unless you were running bungee retention straps across the top. With the extremely slick sides of the AI mags the Taco has a hard time holding the mags in when they aren't fully seated and there is no cord.
I will try to get some decent pics tomorrow.
ETA: Pics of SR25 mags-


mmmmmm.... T&E TACOs....
Nope, haven't washed Gene's boat in a while.
I have been working my ass off, also trying to take Stickman pics for the website...
Definitely don't have the camera skills..

We test fit the AI Mags and came to the same conclusion.
We did not advertise the AI's for reasons you stated.
Even though one of our .Mil Testers used the the AI Magazine with no problems.
He attached a tiny patch of Hook to the mag and snugged down the Bungee..

Thanks for the continual Evaluation.
Looking forward to hearing more for the original Testers, even though their TACOs don't have the Wide Channel of PALS on the backside.
But if it wasn't for you guys, the changes in design that have been made, wouldn't have come to life before final production. [adore]

CXS

m24shooter
1 December 2009, 06:40
mmmmmm.... T&E TACOs....
Nope, haven't washed Gene's boat in a while.
I have been working my ass off, also trying to take Stickman pics for the website...
Definitely don't have the camera skills..
I wouldn't feel too bad. It is hard to match his mad skillz.

We test fit the AI Mags and came to the same conclusion.
We did not advertise the AI's for reasons you stated.
Even though one of our .Mil Testers used the the AI Magazine with no problems.
He attached a tiny patch of Hook to the mag and snugged down the Bungee..
I'm going to try to get some pics with a retention strap over the top. I can see where the velcro would work, but I would be worried about it coming off the mag body with a little heat and exposure to oil.

Thanks for the continual Evaluation.
Looking forward to hearing more for the original Testers, even though their TACOs don't have the Wide Channel of PALS on the backside.
But if it wasn't for you guys, the changes in design that have been made, wouldn't have come to life before final production. [adore]

CXS
No prob. Its a great pouch and it fits pretty much any mag, although it may require some user-end tweaking as described based on the mag used. I'll be playing with it with the AI mags and see what happens.

m24shooter
2 December 2009, 07:58
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/CDI%20DBM/100_1621.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/CDI%20DBM/100_1622.jpg

Custom-X_Sponjah
2 December 2009, 08:48
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/CDI%20DBM/100_1621.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/CDI%20DBM/100_1622.jpg

That's Dedication! Out in the rain snapping pictures..

I'll be posting a Video of "How Easy it is to mount the TACO" later tonight.

For you T&E'ers who want a set of the latest TACO's with wide PALS channels in the back send me an IM and I'll get them to ya. Any color.

CXS

m24shooter
2 December 2009, 09:15
That's Dedication! Out in the rain snapping pictures..
Rain? Hell that was snow! It's just warm enough to melt on contact here right now. That's changing though and we may start getting some accumulations overnight and certainly by Friday.

I'll be posting a Video of "How Easy it is to mount the TACO" later tonight.

For you T&E'ers who want a set of the latest TACO's with wide PALS channels in the back send me an IM and I'll get them to ya. Any color.

CXS
Dude I've been wanting to post "Black TACO" for a while now.
Seriously, OD green would be great. Eager to see the wider PALS.

rob_s
2 December 2009, 15:47
How new is the "wide"? I know that I had a BITCH of a time getting the Malice through the two you sent me.

I'm planning on rotating through a few pouches at a Pat Rogers class in a week and the Taco is at the top of the list. If you have a version that's easier to mount... :D

bigcoastie
2 December 2009, 17:18
I'll be running 2x gen I and 2x gen II at a class (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=8&t=387079) a week from Saturday as well so I'll definately post an update. I just can't wait to dirty up a bunch of new gear.

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii328/bigcoastie/SDC10382.jpg

Custom-X_Sponjah
2 December 2009, 18:05
How new is the "wide"? I know that I had a BITCH of a time getting the Malice through the two you sent me.

I'm planning on rotating through a few pouches at a Pat Rogers class in a week and the Taco is at the top of the list. If you have a version that's easier to mount... :D

Follow these simple instructions.. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms37JsAWZtc

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
30 June 2010, 11:35
I hate to bump this old thread, but I just wanted to show you guys the Double Decker TACO...
Its easier to mount since there is less Shock Cord running through the back PALS Channels..
Rob-S has one, and I want to send the original Beta Testers one...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs048.ash2/35755_134828549862163_111845712160447_355464_41240 18_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs048.ash2/35755_134828566528828_111845712160447_355465_71141 02_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs609.snc3/32054_134775396534145_111845712160447_355131_42420 77_n.jpg

CXS

Urban Tactical Gear
30 June 2010, 13:29
so it's based off one long ass piece of bungee? excellent excution of the bungee termination btw

Custom-X_Sponjah
30 June 2010, 13:32
so it's based off one long ass piece of bungee? excellent excution of the bungee termination btw

Correct.. 54" to be exact...

CXS

rob_s
1 July 2010, 05:43
Yes, I do have one. I'm glad you posted here as I was going to send you an email re: what pistol mag it was meant for, but now I see in your pics it is more universal. Will give it a go next week at drills running it on my battle belt.

Stickman
1 July 2010, 19:44
Nice timing on the bump, I've got someone I am spending a lot of time training on the M4, and we are both using these. In the past 2 days I probably have a few hundred reloads through these, if not more.

rob_s
6 July 2010, 06:33
Yes, I do have one. I'm glad you posted here as I was going to send you an email re: what pistol mag it was meant for, but now I see in your pics it is more universal. Will give it a go next week at drills running it on my battle belt.

I mounted mine to my belt this morning and it was infinitely easier than the previous pouches I had. I would still prefer to see these without the tabs at the "lips". I know that they are there to route bungie through to secure the magazines if needed, but since I'm not going to do that not having the tabs would make mounting easier.

High-Speed
6 July 2010, 11:46
I mounted mine to my belt this morning and it was infinitely easier than the previous pouches I had. I would still prefer to see these without the tabs at the "lips". I know that they are there to route bungie through to secure the magazines if needed, but since I'm not going to do that not having the tabs would make mounting easier.

Rob ,
If you need a TACO without those tabs , give us a shout. We can make them without upon request. On the DDT, I would leave at least the outer tab. One can mount a field expedient style uni-loop on it. After the pistol mag is placed inside it's pouch , tilt the pistol mag pouch outward and slide the uni-loop between the mag and the backside of the pouch. This will tilt the pistol mag outwards for better grip for extraction.

Gene @ HSGI

Custom-X_Sponjah
6 July 2010, 20:54
Glad you liked how much simpler they are to mount..
Like Gene stated above, you can request some without the TAB's.
And I'll also post a pic of what he was describing with the UNI-LOOP and Pistol Mag tomorrow...

CXS

rob_s
7 July 2010, 04:05
As luck would have it I got almost no chance to use the pouch last night, but it did ride on my belt for over 3 hours while running the carbine drills night!

I did get a few extractions and insertions, and it seemed easy enough to use. A major selling point for me with gear like this is if I simply forget I was using it, and that was the case here. I got done at the end of the night and pulled the belt off to drop it in my bin and thought "huh, I forgot that thing was there". To me this means that every time I reached for the magazine it was where I wanted it to be, and every time I went to stow a magazine it went where I wanted it to. If I had noticed the pouch it would have been because of difficulty doing one or the other, and would therefore be a bad thing.

Obviously, the MAJOR selling point of both the original Taco and now this double version is for guys that run multiple platforms. If you have occasion to run an AR, AK, and FAL as well as a Glock, 1911, and Hipower (or whatever, pick your platforms), this pouch design is the best I've ever seen.

Custom-X_Sponjah
8 July 2010, 12:30
This pic Shows the separation with a 1911 Magazine and a M4 Magazine.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5382.jpg

Here is the Field Expedient UNI-LOOP..
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5383.jpg

Installed..
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5384.jpg

Separation is almost doubled for easier Access...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5385.jpg

CXS

Urban Tactical Gear
8 July 2010, 16:26
i mentioned this today on the phone. the new version is ALOT more aesthetically pleasing.

Stickman
10 July 2010, 19:48
Topher ,

Check your messages when you get a chance and let me know what you think.

Stickman
23 July 2010, 10:54
Military Times Review of the Taco (click for link) (http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/07/23/hsgi-taco/)




http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/hsgi-taco/868w0967-800-stick.jpg

GolfBravo
30 December 2010, 12:51
A quick question if I may... Would you guys recommend the pistol TACO magazine for Glock 33rd 9mm magazines? I'm thinking to use the pistol TACO's in combination with the HSGI AO small chest rig for my Glock/KPOS range loadout. It's either the TACO mag pouches or the USGG Colt 32rd Modular Open Top Single pouches. But since I'm addicted to HSGI gear I'd like some input on this matter. Tnx guys.

Stickman
30 December 2010, 14:08
I think it would work fine, but I have not tried it myself.

Custom-X_Sponjah
30 December 2010, 22:34
A quick question if I may... Would you guys recommend the pistol TACO magazine for Glock 33rd 9mm magazines? I'm thinking to use the pistol TACO's in combination with the HSGI AO small chest rig for my Glock/KPOS range loadout. It's either the TACO mag pouches or the USGG Colt 32rd Modular Open Top Single pouches. But since I'm addicted to HSGI gear I'd like some input on this matter. Tnx guys.

Actually we are developing a taller pouch for Stick Mags, G18, MP5 mags..
Look for it in the near future..

I have used the PTACO's for G18 mags and worked fine, but would feel 100% better with 2 more inches of coverage..

CXS

GolfBravo
31 December 2010, 03:15
Hi Topher,

Great news, thank you. It's nice to see HSGI catering to the needs of my addiction to their excellent products... Will be looking out for those new TACOS for sure. Have a great year 2011, this goes to everyone. Cheers.

GolfBravo
2 February 2011, 10:34
...just saw the new long pistol TACO pouches on HSGI FB, here's the pic:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs273.snc6/180154_196084923736525_111845712160447_742507_3667 220_n.jpg

Tnx HSGI...

Stickman
2 February 2011, 11:42
Nice!

Custom-X_Sponjah
2 February 2011, 13:00
Keep in Mind that these are Prototypes..

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/DSCF5752.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/DSCF5748.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/DSCF5747.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/DSCF5745.jpg

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
2 February 2011, 17:43
Customers Subgun Setup.
He's using standard Pistol TACO's with the 25rnd UZI Mags.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs884.ash1/179265_196212887057325_100000058467652_759620_2545 641_n.jpg

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
4 February 2011, 14:07
Lots of good things happening with the TACO line..

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs906.ash1/181467_196854140326270_111845712160447_747489_2340 016_n.jpg

CXS

rob_s
5 February 2011, 07:04
Was cleaning up the office this morning and snapped a pic of this to post on my facebook page, with the caption
"If you have a need to run multiple types of mags the HSGI Taco is the best thing I've found. Only works on MOLLE though."

ETA:
ha, just went over there to cut & paste the caption and saw you had posted. I need to get one of those pistol mag pouches I think. I also have a 1.75" belt I wouldn't mind trying them on.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/photo-18-6.jpg

GolfBravo
21 February 2011, 02:59
Hey Topher,

When can we expect the new long pistol TACO pouches to become available in shops?

Cheers.

Custom-X_Sponjah
21 February 2011, 13:55
Hey Topher,

When can we expect the new long pistol TACO pouches to become available in shops?

Cheers.

Hopefully Soon!

When we introduced them there was a little breathing room here at the shop.
We figured it was a good time to intro some new products.
Fast forward to now and we are slammed..
There is literally a TACO on 7 out of 10 Orders..
We introduced Coyote Brown as a new color for all of our Gear, well dealers have jumped on it.
I hate to make excuses, but the reality is we are trying our damnedest to not have any lead times on our products.
If that means pulling a MagPul and delaying release of products, then that's what we have to do.

I hope you understand.

CXS

GolfBravo
22 February 2011, 07:57
Hi Topher,

I understand completely, thank you for a prompt reply. Will be on the lookout for the long pistol TACO pouches here in the EU, they should be available eventually :-P

Cheers.

Custom-X_Sponjah
18 May 2011, 12:28
http://youtu.be/UnsMXzoZZjE

The "New" Version is made exactly like the older Gen.
Except the Hand Bent Kydex Bracket has been replaced with a New Molded Injection Bracket.
This new piece adds a feed ramp to the top which aids in magazine insertion, and also has solid holes where the shock cord passes through..

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF6294.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF6293.jpg

CXS

tac40
14 August 2011, 09:14
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/horseplay/IMG_1373.jpg

Very impressive gear, I'll be running this at the AK class next weekend.

Custom-X_Sponjah
17 August 2011, 04:53
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/285372_258010240877326_111845712160447_1092232_124 7900_n.jpg

Is that a Paddle Adapter on a Double Decker TACO? Why yes it is, Perfect for that Plain Clothes LEO who needs to add a Rifle and Pistol Reload to his Civy Loadout real quick.
Is that a Belt Slide Adapter on a TACO? Sure is, Lets you run TACO's on a standard Belt for people such as competition shooters.
Hold the Phone! Is That a TACO with an RTI Plate? Why the hell not.. Need another rifle mag, take off your holster and attach away..

CXS

orionz06
17 August 2011, 09:34
Damn! I have been developing a similar thing over the past month or so... Except not with that companies adapters.

TripleBravo
17 August 2011, 10:50
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/285372_258010240877326_111845712160447_1092232_124 7900_n.jpg

Is that a Paddle Adapter on a Double Decker TACO? Why yes it is, Perfect for that Plain Clothes LEO who needs to add a Rifle and Pistol Reload to his Civy Loadout real quick.
Is that a Belt Slide Adapter on a TACO? Sure is, Lets you run TACO's on a standard Belt for people such as competition shooters.
Hold the Phone! Is That a TACO with an RTI Plate? Why the hell not.. Need another rifle mag, take off your holster and attach away..

CXS

LOVE IT!....now, how 'bout one that attaches with Tek-Lok too!

Custom-X_Sponjah
18 August 2011, 05:28
LOVE IT!....now, how 'bout one that attaches with Tek-Lok too!

Send me a Tek-Lok.. ;-)

CXS

niftyvt
26 August 2011, 04:20
Just got 2 Taco pistol mag pouches in and put them on my Jones Tactical Fat Zombie 2" belt. I added a little sticky velcro to the inside of the malice clip so that the Taco grabs the inner hook of the 2" belt so they dont slide after I take the 2" belt off the inner belt. Without the extra velcro on the Malice clips they slide a little on the belt but still lock up when you attach the 2" belt to the inner belt. Currently sporting Eagle rifle mag pouches but they will be changed over to Tacos in the near future.

And yes I did join this board to join in on this discussion, I didnt see anyone mentioning regular old belts so I felt like chiming in.

High-Speed
27 August 2011, 17:04
Coming soon, adapters for 2 P-TACOs

Gene @ HSGI

DangerWorldWide
31 August 2011, 19:09
http://www.triadtactical.com/HSGI-double-Rifle-TACO-Mag-Pouch.html

These guys are selling double rifle taco pouches, I wanted to know if this was fake or real, since the normal double-decker (rifle-pistol) double deckers are the same price, and I haven't seen anything on HSGI's website about this.

High-Speed
31 August 2011, 21:10
http://www.triadtactical.com/HSGI-double-Rifle-TACO-Mag-Pouch.html

These guys are selling double rifle taco pouches, I wanted to know if this was fake or real, since the normal double-decker (rifle-pistol) double deckers are the same price, and I haven't seen anything on HSGI's website about this.

Legit, Triad Tactical is an Authorized Dealer for HSGI. The HSGI TACO-X2R are located on the HSGI site, HERE (http://www.hsgi.us/proddetail.php?prod=HSG-X2R-TACO&cat=20) .

niftyvt
26 October 2011, 05:59
Just got my Double Decker Value Combo in and those double decker tacos are great!

Stickman
6 November 2011, 08:26
Just got my Double Decker Value Combo in and those double decker tacos are great!


Agreed, they really developed a great product.

Ryo
6 November 2011, 13:33
I haven't kept up with this.. Looks like they made a great pouch for the Colt 9mm smg pouch.

Hey Stick, which pouch did you use for your Multitasker?

Sak007
7 November 2011, 13:05
Will Brownell's be carrying multicam ?

bluesgt380
25 November 2011, 07:15
Ive been using the standard taco for my 6p on my duty gear at work. Excellent product. just ordered the double stack.

niftyvt
28 November 2011, 03:45
I have had a couple weeks to play with and dry fire with my double decker + chest rig and its a great set up. I will be taking it and a war belt with taco pistols (still havent replaced my eagle ind AR pouches yet) to the Haley strategic handgun and carbine 1 classes in January. I am looking forward to running the pouches hard!

TripleBravo
29 November 2011, 20:37
The Taco's work great for all kinds of stuff. Here's a CAT M4 and Talon tool tucked neatly into a pistol taco:

http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww189/wjt1169/Combat%20Application%20Tools/CATM4-Taco-01-V2-B3-1024.jpg

Stickman
30 November 2011, 23:20
Slick trick!

niftyvt
14 February 2012, 04:39
My pistiol TACOs worked flawlessly at the Haley Handgun 1 class I took. I didnt have any rifle TACOs at the time but I got 1 in the grab bag at the class and another is on order along with a HSGI padded belt [:D] So I can finally swap out my old eagle ind rifle pouches.

Gene was a hoot to meet and shoot with [BD]

niftyvt
15 August 2012, 11:33
My HSGI rig at Costa Ludus CE02
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/jamesyeager/Costa%20Ludus/th_6f544dce.jpg (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/jamesyeager/Costa%20Ludus/6f544dce.jpg)

And the other side.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/jamesyeager/Costa%20Ludus/th_aa3b1c9d.jpg (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/jamesyeager/Costa%20Ludus/aa3b1c9d.jpg)

Click for full size.