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Rated21R
14 September 2009, 09:00
I was curious about face to face sales of handguns. I am going to sell my XDm 9mm (I live in Utah) and all that I was going to do was draft up a bill of sale and have him sign it and make a copy for my records. Anything else I should do or am required to do? Thanks.

Stickman
14 September 2009, 10:25
Are you required to make a bill of sale in your state?

CAPT KIRK
14 September 2009, 15:54
I thought the "Brady" bill was a Federal law that required all handgun private party sales to be DROS'ed through an FFL. Dunno maybe its just my misunderstanding as everything is cinched down tight and paranoid here in the Peoples Demo/Socialist Republic of California.

CCK
14 September 2009, 16:16
Capt. Kirk,
That is not nationwide. (thank God!)


Rated21R,
The Bill of Sale is mostly for your protection. In AZ, none is required. I can't speak to Utah, I would imagine very similar.

Can I ask why you are selling? If personal no need to respond, if weapon related I would appreciate the input.

Chris

Rated21R
14 September 2009, 17:27
Capt. Kirk,
That is not nationwide. (thank God!)


Rated21R,
The Bill of Sale is mostly for your protection. In AZ, none is required. I can't speak to Utah, I would imagine very similar.

Can I ask why you are selling? If personal no need to respond, if weapon related I would appreciate the input.

Chris

I am selling to pick up something a bit smaller to use for a CCW. I am looking at M&P subcompact and HK P2000 subcompact and a few others.

Eric
14 September 2009, 22:50
I thought the "Brady" bill was a Federal law that required all handgun private party sales to be DROS'ed through an FFL. Dunno maybe its just my misunderstanding as everything is cinched down tight and paranoid here in the Peoples Demo/Socialist Republic of California. Nope.

Eric
14 September 2009, 22:56
I was curious about face to face sales of handguns. I am going to sell my XDm 9mm (I live in Utah) and all that I was going to do was draft up a bill of sale and have him sign it and make a copy for my records. Anything else I should do or am required to do? Thanks.
There is no national requirement. You really need to see how your state regulates (if at all) transfers from one state resident to another. Even if there isn't a requirement, it is always recommended to have something in writing when you sell a firearm. It helps to protect the buyer and seller.

tac40
23 September 2009, 14:10
http://www.utahconcealedcarry.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6012


http://des.utah.gov/bci/LAWpurchase.html

Did you see this?

SilentType
24 September 2009, 10:24
I would just do what any reasonable person in your position should do by complying with the laws of your state to the letter.

In addition, I would ask to see his Driver's License or State ID to make sure he was of age, who he said he was, and for my own peace of mind probably do a search prior to meeting with him under your state's sex offender registry and if you have one state prison registery. In Michigan I can do a background check through our department of corrections and see if the guy has ever served time (meaning if he was in prison he's a felon). You could also search for his name on your state's "Most Wanted" list and the FBI's "Most Wanted" list. I would say that would give you good peace of mind. You could also just Google his name to see what turns up.

After that it's just a good public place where you can see trouble coming and having good situational awareness. Wouldn't sell him ammunition with the firearm. If possible be armed yourself. That's about as responisble as anyone could expect you to be.