LWRCI REPR

[rcrandall]

I just received a new LWRCI REPR (Rapid Engagement Precision Rifle) yesterday and thought I would post some pics and general information. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet, but will do so this coming week. The REPR is a gas piston, semi automatic .308, AR10-style rifle. Instead of a traditional charging handle it has a side cocking charging handle on the left side of the upper receiver, much like a FAL. It is canted up at a slight angle and is also a forward assist like the Israeli version. It has a rifle length, four adjustable gas system. The settings are C (closed), S (supressed), N (Normal), and A (Adverse). The barrel, like all LWRC models, is cold hammer forged with a Ni-Corr (hot salt bath nitrided) finish inside and out, including the gas port. The Ni-Corr process is a surface conversion instead of a coating and is harder and more lubricious than hard chrome and nearly corrosion proof. Twist is 1x10. LWRC has said it will shoot sub MOA with match ammo and a good shooter. The REPR also has an ambidextrous bolt lock and release and comes with Troy Industry front and rear back up iron sights and Magpul MIAD pistol grip. There are three barrel lengths, 16", 18", and 20". I bought the 16" and it came with a Vltor E-Mod stock. The trigger is military one stage but it has also been Ni-Corr'd and has no creep and breaks cleanly. The barrel is free floated and the handguard is forged aluminium with a series of holes so that you can attach rails at the 9, 6, 3 o'clock postions. A picitiny rail runs the length of the upper receiver and handguard for mounting optics. The rifle comes with three short lengths of rail to place where you need them, saving on weight. It takes SR25 type magazines. Length of the 16" barreled model is 34.5" inches with stock collapsed and 9.5 pounds unloaded.

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Not the highest quality of pictures but I already have enough expensive hobbies and use a basic digitial camera!

Having practiced dry fire, magazine reloads, and the manual of arms with this rifle I have to say it is very ergonomic.

I have five additional LWRC rifles, two 5.56's and three 6.8's. I've had my first LWRC since 2006 with thousands of rounds out of them and they have all runlike sewing machines. I carry the 8.5" barrel PSD 6.8 for swat and an M6A1-S 6.8 for perimeter type work. LWRC's piston system runs clean and cool and I have had no carrier tilt issues or parts breakage. Items like firing pins, firing pin retaining pins, and bolt cam pins are consumable and should be replaced like any other AR15 type rifle.

Here are my 8.5" PSD 6.8 and REPR .308
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This is the M6A1-S (S stands for stretch and indicates a mid-length gas system) 6.8 and REPR. The lower receiver on the 6.8 is a Stag but the upper is LWRC.
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This is a quick intro on LWRC and just scratches the surface and I will update this post with range reports as I go. I hope this has been entertaining and informative.

As promised, pictures of the bolt carrier assembly, adjustable gas system, and piston.

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[federalist22]

The guys from LWRC brought one of these out to a Pat Rogers course I took in Culpeper, Virginia. Very nice rifle. Aside from their piston system, the bolt handle on the left side (vice a rear charging handle) and the bolt release paddle on the right side were great features. I didn't get the chance to fire it, but I held a lot of the parts. I remember the bolt carriage being something special--the finish was a stainless look that felt like a lubed metal (only without the lube). Share a pic or two of the inner parts if you can.

[rcrandall]

Tomorrow I will take pics of the bolt carrier assembly, piston, and adjustable gas system and update the thread.

[Hoss356]

That's a great looking rifle, are you gonna go with optics on it? If so what kind?

[alt154shiver]

The Ni-Corr process is a surface conversion instead of a coating and is harder and more lubricious than hard chrome and nearly corrosion proof.

I have fallen in love with the Ni-Corr process along with the rest of my LWRC. I live in the Pacific Northwest and often go hiking. There's a hot springs out near where I am and even sitting in the damp mineral rich atmosphere of the springs I have yet to encounter any corrosion of the barrel. The flash Hider however is not treated with Ni-Corr... :( found that out the hard way. I have noticed though that the mineral rich atmosphere around the springs causes any powder residue around the shot cup to crystalize making it a b**ch and half to get off.


I remember the bolt carriage being something special--the finish was a stainless look that felt like a lubed metal (only without the lube). Share a pic or two of the inner parts if you can.

I thought I had a picture of my bolt carrier floating around somewhere but it seems to have gone missing. The carrier is coated with a system called NP3, or a nickle-teflon matrix. No idea how they do it, but the carrier is super slippery even when dry.

I may have paid what some would consider an exorbitant amount of money for my M6A2, but I couldn't be happier with the rifle. LWRC will be staying on my list of manufacturers. And who know, OP when you start with the range reports on your .308 I might just be tempted...

[rcrandall]

Yes, but I am not sure what kind yet. I got the 16" model because I wanted a precision battle rifle, not a sniper rifle. I personally don't like full sized scopes on semi-auto rifles..I know, not rational. But my OCD kicks in and I end up taking them off. I do have a 3x9x40 Trijicon Accupoint in a LaRue SPR-E mount that I will shoot with initially. I've been looking at Trijicon ACOG's, TA11H-.308 specifically. I like the longer eye relief and it is a 3.5x35 scope with horseshoe reticle. But I hear for CQB work the POI can shift so then I would have to put an RMR on the scope, or something similar. Lot of money. I like the Aimpoint T-1 and thought maybe I would try that with a magnifier.

[Stickman]

Looks like a very nice Battle Rifle, I need to get ahold of one of these.

[alt154shiver]

Stick, I thought you had everything...

[federalist22]

I may have paid what some would consider an exorbitant amount of money for my M6A2, but I couldn't be happier with the rifle. LWRC will be staying on my list of manufacturers. And who know, OP when you start with the range reports on your .308 I might just be tempted...

Regardless, it was a good buy!

[uspopo]

Congrats! I love my M6A2 and may pick up a M6A2-S upper in the near future but I heard LWRC may have the REPR type handguards in the works for their 5.56/6.8 platform..Can you smell SPR?

[Randall Kepley]

Man that is very nice! Looks like Christmas came early! R.K.

[cz777]

damn thats nice gun porn - very nice report ok please show some targets and range report at different ranges .............well done!

[Chainring]

Any range report yet? I just got to hold one of these, and I need one to go with my M6A3 LWRCI!

[rcrandall]

I've had some issues with mine. It went back the factory for some short stroking issues and had the adustable gas nozzle replaced, I guess the old one wasn't allowing enough gas to cycle the bolt carrier assembly. LWRC's customer service was excellent, I had a return tag in an hour and the gun was back in less than two weeks, and this was over Thanksgiving.

The gun ran good the first range session but the next I had more issues that appeared to be more short stroking. It might be the C Product magazines, though. The followers are cheap plastic and not anti-tilt. I have two new Magpul .308 pamgs on the way so I will try again with those. Hopefully it is a magazine issue. .308 ammo is pricey and I don't want to burn through seven magazines worth to figure out if I have bad magazines. I don't mind spending the ammo on good training but not in an execise of frustration.

I was able to shoot for accuracy at 100 yards with Federal 168 grain BTHP and Hornady 155 grain Amax. This was off a wooden rest using my fist to stabilize the stock. I was losing light so I only fired three shot groups. The Federal shot .920" and the Amax 1.275". Scope used was a Trijicon ACOG TA11 (sorry Paulo, I tried the TA11 and loved it so no Swarovski for now).

I believe with a better rest and shooter the REPR can shoot tighter groups.

I've got six other LWRC rifles and they are very reliable, smooth guns so I'm thinking this has got to be a magazine issue. If not, we'll go from there, they have excellent customer service.

On an unrelated note, the same day I shot a 2.0" group at 100 yards with my LWRC 6.8 PSD with 8.5" barrel. Ammo used was my handloads, 115 grain Sierra BTHP, 28.2 grains H322, CCI#41 primer, SSA cases and Lee crimp. Optic was a non-magnified Aimpoint T-1. This same gun shot a 1.5 inch group a year ago at the same range using SSA 115 grain OTM's and a Trijicon Reflexx II (unmagnified).

[Paulo_Santos]

Thanks for keeping us updated. Hopefully it is just a magazine issue.

[eternal24k]

Looking forward to hearing more.

Anybody else surprised with the bcg being parked?

[markm]

Sounds like a typical LWRC deal to me. I'll never forget those goobers getting one of their 308 corncockshuns on one of those military channel shows.

The POS they submitted wouldn't even run. The doucher had to keep manually cycling the damned thing.... And this was on a TOP 10 sniper weapons show. [crazy]

Those bums at LWRC couldn't even cherry pick a gun to promote their BS claims on the military channel!

[rcrandall]

While I have been having problems with my REPR I have six other LWRC rifles in 5.56 and 6.8 and they have all worked great, more reliable than my Colt 6920. In fact, I carry LWRC for work. I think I saw that show you are talking about. They were manually cocking the rifle to show the four position gas system. You can turn the gas all the way off and use it like a bolt gun.

[tac40]

Nice work by LWRCi, keep us posted as the shake down on your rifle.
Any opportunity to try out the Magpul 20 rd mags? Did you get a chance to shoot FMJ surplus ammo or just the good stuff?

On a side note how do you like the 6.8 from LWRCi?

Thanks for sharing.

[rcrandall]

I have three 6.8's from LWRC (8.5", 14.7", and 16") and they have all been stellar riles. I use the 8.5 PSD for SWAT and their 14.7 with TA11 ACOG for a perimeter rifle. The new hammer forged barrels with polyginal type rifling, SpecII chambers, and Ni-Corr surface conversion reduce pressure and are very accurate. Easy to clean up, too.

[d90king]

Sounds like a typical LWRC deal to me. I'll never forget those goobers getting one of their 308 corncockshuns on one of those military channel shows.

The POS they submitted wouldn't even run. The doucher had to keep manually cycling the damned thing.... And this was on a TOP 10 sniper weapons show. [crazy]

Those bums at LWRC couldn't even cherry pick a gun to promote their BS claims on the military channel!

You do know that that was from the old company, right? You might have to find a new brand to bash... The rifles they are producing now have been excellent. LAV didnt seem to have any issue with the REPR he was running on his show... How many LWRCI products do you own? The shill game is over and they are building quality rifles. Period.

[Specialized Armament]

While I have been having problems with my REPR I have six other LWRC rifles in 5.56 and 6.8 and they have all worked great, more reliable than my Colt 6920. In fact, I carry LWRC for work. I think I saw that show you are talking about. They were manually cocking the rifle to show the four position gas system. You can turn the gas all the way off and use it like a bolt gun.

How so? What reliability issues were you experiencing?

[redpoint]

have just recently purchase a LWRC REPR and I am in the market for
additional magazines. During my investigation I encountered other REPR
owners who claim to have issues with 20LR magazine. Given the relative
small number of these rifles in the hands of recreational shooters it
would appear that this number is significant.

When I queried MAGPUL they stated that the LWRC REPR was experiencing Bolt-Over failures with the 20LR.

I have also read individuals using a newer version of the CProducts .308 20rd Magazine have had issues as well. This due to feed lip alteration done by CProducts on ther newer mags.

Are you folks able to shed some light regarding the compatibility of the
MAGPUL 20LR/CProducts and the LWRC REPR?

What magazines are people having luck with?

[rcrandall]

How so? What reliability issues were you experiencing?

Sorry, been gone from the forums for awhile. I had two failures to extract with Federal XM193 ball.

have just recently purchase a LWRC REPR and I am in the market for
additional magazines. During my investigation I encountered other REPR
owners who claim to have issues with 20LR magazine. Given the relative
small number of these rifles in the hands of recreational shooters it
would appear that this number is significant.

When I queried MAGPUL they stated that the LWRC REPR was experiencing Bolt-Over failures with the 20LR.

I have also read individuals using a newer version of the CProducts .308 20rd Magazine have had issues as well. This due to feed lip alteration done by CProducts on ther newer mags.

Are you folks able to shed some light regarding the compatibility of the
MAGPUL 20LR/CProducts and the LWRC REPR?

What magazines are people having luck with?

Redpoint. I've received my REPR back from LWRC and it works great. I have seven C Products magazines and they all function 100%. I've been shooting my handloads, 150 grain FMJBT 42 grains H4895 which closely resembles military ball. I've put 200 rounds through it since I got the rifle back. All my C Products magazines are a little older, I bought them before the rifle came, and I've heard C Products changed the Specs on their magazines which is causing issues. I haven't seen it so I can't say. I did buy two pmags and have bolt over round malfunctions with them. The chatter going around is Magpul is working on a fix, C Products is working on a fix, and LWRC is going to be making their own which is going to be desgined of the original Stoner magazines. I'm waiting for them before buying any more magazines. LaRue is also making magazines for their new .308 but last I spoke with them (before shot show) they said they were for sale only to those that bought one of their rifles and they didn't know when, or if, that would change. KAC also makes magazines but they are well over $100. I'll wait. Hope this helps.

[redpoint]

Thanks for the reply, I guess that I will have to wait around until the Mag choice improve.

[rcrandall]

I hear ya. I spoke with people at the factory and they said their guns ran good with the old CP mags, and mine does so far....it's fun as hell to shoot. I've spent the last five years farting around with 6.8 magazines, trouble shooting and figuring out what would work and there are still only three manufacturers. I didn't think I would be in the same boat with the REPR, hell worse. The 6.8 Barrett mags were good from the start. Hopefully the new mags will be out and they will be high quality.

[LIL-COMMANDO]

[QUOTE=rcrandall;17658]Sorry, been gone from the forums for awhile. I had two failures to extract with Federal XM193 ball.

Is this the best answer for Specialized Armament on what issues your having with your 6920 rifle. Two Failure to extract thats it?

[Specialized Armament]

My question was off topic but I felt it needed to be asked. What wasn't said is just as important as what was.

Back to the topic... LWRCi REPR

[devilpig]

Beautiful rifle!

[Sak007]

Just handled one several hours ago at the gun shop , would love to have one but i have to many other toys to get first.:P

[SDDuc996]

Did it turn out to be two failures to extract for the 6920? Not a fan of piston guns unless it's a 416.

I've never had an LWRC but man, $1k in tax stamps for 5 LWRC's! I wish I had that kind of cabbage!

[markm]

You do know that that was from the old company, right? You might have to find a new brand to bash... The rifles they are producing now have been excellent. LAV didnt seem to have any issue with the REPR he was running on his show... How many LWRCI products do you own? The shill game is over and they are building quality rifles. Period.

You guys are worse than the Obama douchers constantly blaming the "old" administration. How long will you hang on to this arguement?

The internut astro turfing by these bottom feeders hasn't changed, and they've taken it to the television programs. Just because they finally had the brains to pick a functioning gun for LAV doesn't mean that their product is any better.

[SDDuc996]

I thought Paul Howe was the LWRC advocate, and Vickers the Daniel Defense advocate?

Either way I don't go off endorsements.

[Sak007]

Will the R.E.P.R take the 20 round magpul mags ?

[Rated21R]

very nice.

[d90king]

You guys are worse than the Obama douchers constantly blaming the "old" administration. How long will you hang on to this arguement?

The internut astro turfing by these bottom feeders hasn't changed, and they've taken it to the television programs. Just because they finally had the brains to pick a functioning gun for LAV doesn't mean that their product is any better.


Mark, how many LWRCI rifles do you own? How many rounds do you have down range with them? What problems have YOU experienced?

The old BS astro turfing shit is old news... What is your problem with the actual weapons that they build TODAY?

I shoot Colts, LMT's, LaRue and LWRCI and I don't give two shits about LWRCI as a company, all I care about is that their rifles perform and mine DO! I have seen you bash them on every board that you aren't banned from, what is your beef?! It appears that you have a vested interest in bashing them... It makes you come off as a troll or rep for another company...

Grow up and let it go. Its getting old and everybody knows you don't like them...

As far as LAV, I will get his thoughts in person in a few weeks at Hackathorn... I have always found him to be brutally honest in person, but he is also a professional and will call it the way it is without a bias...