SHOT Show 2010

[Stickman]

Who do you think its worth stopping by to see this year? What booths & manufacturers will have must see items? Is there anything that WEVO members want to see addressed or covered this year?



Let me know, and I'll see what I can do to make sure we all get the most out of SHOT this year.

[Dos Cylindros]

If I could be there I would most deffinately stop by and see Steve Morrison of MARS Armament. He recently worked on a colt upper for me (pinned and welded to make 16" and some feed ramp polishing). He is also building me a custom colt 1911 based on a WW1 Repro. He is good people. That being said, I don't even know if he will be there this year.

[Uglyduck]

i would like to see what Blue Force Gear is doing this year. I think they'll release their new Ten Speed chest rig at SHOT but I'm curious what else they'll have to offer. Viking Tactics has released several new items this year but I wonder if they'll be releasing anything else, they've been busy with S&W and others. Whats going on in the Bullpup world? The Tavor and C.Daly? Whats the scoop with the AXR? MSAR in .22?

[titus7]

ACR ACR ACR of course!! Other than that very interested in seeing everything that Magpul will have there. Question being as it will be my first time going. Say that Remington/Bushmaster does release the ACR there can dealers buy there or preorder?? Or even if its not the ACR, Im just saying in general being a buyer for my dealer can I order things there from the manufacturers or is it strictly window shopping??

[caporider]

I'd be very happy to see any details from:

- Remington MPD
- Bushmaster
- Magpul
- HKUSA
- LMT
- LaRue Tactical
- AAC
- Surefire Tactical Products
- Bobro Engineering
- Accuracy International
- Mayflower
- LBT
- BAE/Eclipse Performance
- S&W
- Vortex Optics
- Leupold
- Nightforce Optics
- KAC
- BCM

Yeah... You guys better wear your walkin' shoes. Wish I could go this year.

[Mat]

I'm on the market for redots and hopefully a decent variable with drop comp. Also aiming for a set of recce twin sisters, thinking LaRue Stealths. I haven't been paying much attention to who's got booths this year so forgive me if my list is broken.

Any magically affordable ammo
Aimpoint
Schmidt & Bender (add some insane Aimpoint-ish battery life and I'm sold)
BCM
Noveske
LaRue
Nightforce
Surefire
Leupold
Magpul (MOE+ grips???)
LMT
BAE
KAC
MEGA (their monorail looks great, can't wait for more info)
Mayflower
Glock (don't own any yet, waiting to check out a GEN4 G21)

[joffe]

Remington/Bushmaster - oh come on you already know. Besides the elephant in the room, Remington is apparently coming out with their own 1911 so any info on whether or not this one will actually stand out from the pack would probably be interesting to most people here.
Magpul - new stuff, new prototypes, PDR?!
Vltor - the Bren Ten. For sure. I can't believe Ken Lunde went past the Vltor booth and photographed just about everything except for the Bren (then Fortis) last year. I really hope there will be some quality snaps of this baby this year.
Sig Sauer - the E2 226 and 229. Pics, comparisons to old ones maybe? Will they come with the DAK trigger?

[Stickman]

Remington/Bushmaster - oh come on you already know. Besides the elephant in the room, Remington is apparently coming out with their own 1911 so any info on whether or not this one will actually stand out from the pack would probably be interesting to most people here.
Magpul - new stuff, new prototypes, PDR?!
Vltor - the Bren Ten. For sure. I can't believe Ken Lunde went past the Vltor booth and photographed just about everything except for the Bren (then Fortis) last year. I really hope there will be some quality snaps of this baby this year.
Sig Sauer - the E2 226 and 229. Pics, comparisons to old ones maybe? Will they come with the DAK trigger?


I took a bunch of shots of the Bren Ten/ Fortis pistol last year.... I'm not sure what happened to them.

[Army Chief]

Still living in the past, here ... I would be thrilled just to see the old Magpul PDR prototype show up again. I'm still holding out hope that we might see this enter limited production at some point in the future, though I realize that may be beyond wishful thinking.

AC

[GMT]

Sig 516

[Mike]

Probably someone could be inerested in this?

http://www.abload.de/img/s313_sig716_01p5mx.jpg

[Ned Christiansen]

Stop at the LTW booth (Louder Than Words) and drop a $10 bill on our raffle to benefit wounded/killed SEALs and their families. Sorry I don't have a booth number for you, and I myself won't be at SHOT this year-- but the custom 1911 we're raffling this year is a helluva package. You can see it here if it's OK for me to post a link:
http://www.louderthanwords.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=7942

[Stickman]

Stop at the LTW booth (Louder Than Words) and drop a $10 bill on our raffle to benefit wounded/killed SEALs and their families. Sorry I don't have a booth number for you, and I myself won't be at SHOT this year-- but the custom 1911 we're raffling this year is a helluva package. You can see it here if it's OK for me to post a link:
http://www.louderthanwords.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=7942



Ned,

I know you stay busy, and I appreciate the post. If you are releasing anything this upcoming year that will benefit MIL or LE, shoot me an email, or get ahold of me on the boards and I'll make sure it gets covered. An instructor/ partner has your staking tool, and he won't teach a class without it.

I'll swing by their both, and I've got no problem at all with posts for projects that help our injured troops.

[gotm4]

I'll be going by to see Ned.

Also staying at least 2 of the days in the LE/Military section. Then the other two on the regular section. Can't wait.

[Uglyduck]

I just saw a thread over on M4C about Vortex's new 1-4x. Looks interesting, maybe you gents would have time to check it out.

Vortex Tactical (http://www.vortextactical.com/product/vortex-viper-pst-1-4x24-riflescope-with-tmcq-mrad-reticle/reticle)

ETA: The more I look at what they have, the more I like Vortex. They have some exciting new prospects. I've always liked their products but now my interest in them is really sparked.

[tac40]

LTW, LMT, Colt, HK, LWRCi, Vltor, Viking Tactical, Nighthawk, Surefire
Otte gear, Magpul, Blackhawk, Sig, Glock, and the rest of the LEO/MIL section. Lastly the booth bunnies ;)

[SDDuc996]

As a follow upto the above, Stick please take plenty o pics of the ladies. The only thing sexier than a girl with a gun, is one that really knows how to use it.

[Stickman]

LTW, LMT, Colt, HK, LWRCi, Vltor, Viking Tactical, Nighthawk, Surefire
Otte gear, Magpul, Blackhawk, Sig, Glock, and the rest of the LEO/MIL section. Lastly the booth bunnies ;)



I found out where the best booth bunnies are going to be.....

[Stickman]

As a follow upto the above, Stick please take plenty o pics of the ladies. The only thing sexier than a girl with a gun, is one that really knows how to use it.


I am equal opportunity, I shoot picture of the items, and the accessories that hold them...... well, at least the attractive female variants.

[Stickman]

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20V/868W9164-A-1024-Stick.jpg

[Rated21R]

I trust Stick to provide outstanding photos as usual and whatever he covers I will check out.

[103m 95g]

Ok stick, give it up. "Magpul 10" ??????
a ten round mag??

[Eric]

Ok stick, give it up. "Magpul 10" ??????
a ten round mag??
2010 ;)

[Optimus Prime]

2010 Magpul MBus (http://gunscoffee.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-magpul-mbus.html) passes?

[Stickman]

The Magpul Mog? Fun stuff, its amazing to see its final configuration. There was a lot of work put into that beast.

[Quib]

LOL...looks a lot nicer than the one we had out at the airfield in Germany!

[Optimus Prime]

I admit it. I'd use that as my everyday driver.

[Stickman]

I can't imagine what the gas costs would be for that pig driving it down from Boulder to Vegas.

[tac40]

Hey Stick can I be your camera bearer? : )

[Tim_AZ]

Any chance you can swing by the Beretta booth and get some info on the PX4 Sub-Compact in .40 S&W? I’d sure like to have one if they ever plan to release it.

[Optimus Prime]

I can't imagine what the gas costs would be for that pig driving it down from Boulder to Vegas.

Is it gas or diesel? My only experience with Unimogs were the SEE trucks we used to have at my unit.

[Stickman]

Any chance you can swing by the Beretta booth and get some info on the PX4 Sub-Compact in .40 S&W? I’d sure like to have one if they ever plan to release it.


I'll make a note of it.

[Optimus Prime]

Rumors of the Ruger LCR in .357mag... that would bee neat to see.

[Stickman]

Good rumor, I'll have to check it out.

[S391]

Rumors of the Ruger LCR in .357mag... that would bee neat to see.

I just read about this on the firearms blog..... there will be an LCR in .357.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/01/18/ruger-lcr-coming-in-357-mag/

[Stickman]

I've had a few people email me about Robinson Arms suing Magpul & Remington in the past few days. The general thought is that they are trying to block the ACR release.

Check out the below link for more info, and the reason for the lawsuit. When you read the reason, think about the FN FAL....

http://soldiersystems.net/2010/01/15/robinson-arms-sues-remington-bushmaster-rra-and-magpul/

[Stickman]

Looks like FN announced their .45 tactical pistol already.

[Stickman]

The new "Colt Tactical" line is already announced, and is geared towards an upper end crowd using off the shelf components. They used a non-LE/ non-MIL/ non-trainer guy for intel as to what the tactical community wants, and built up weapons from there (thats the info I was given, and from a reliable source).

Depending how you look at it, that may be a fantastic move. The name of the game for Colt is increased sales, and the LE/ MIL crowd isn't purchasing in droves right now when it comes to sales outside of the already established GOV contracts. Hitting the guys who are buying because they have the free cash might be a slick idea. I think we saw Bushmaster do the same thing last year with their "custom shop", but I have no info on how well thats done for them.

Colt is a solid name, and needs to push back into the American gun owners hearts. I hope this is a legit move on their part. If they were looking for out of the box superior tactical weapon systems..... I've got mixed feelings.

[jeffy]

Is it gas or diesel? My only experience with Unimogs were the SEE trucks we used to have at my unit.It's an Unimog 416 Doka. It was built by http://www.couchoffroad.com/ They were made in the 70's. My guess is that it was trailered as they are slow even with the 'Fast' axles.

http://www.couchoffroad.com/images/photos/magpul_late_oct2009.jpg

[Mike]

[wow]

http://img12.abload.de/img/g36magpul1wxv.png

http://www.abload.de/img/g68wnn.png

http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannthj4m.png


Well, dear guys from Magpul, if you need someone to T&E this stuff... *cough* [:D]

[Stickman]

Looks like someone leaked the PDF....

[Mike]

As far as I know you can download it on their website since... well... yesterday?

[Stickman]

I know it was up along with the new site for a few minutes, can you still see it on your end? I've had the PDF for weeks, but I can't release pictures on my end until Magpul blesses off on it.

Once they give the go ahead, I've got a bunch of pictures to bring out of the admin/ staff area and post aside from whats shown in the catalog.

[Mike]

At least the new website seems to be reacheable although there are still some minor errors to be seen.
From there you can proceed to register to download the catalog and the website says "download catalog today":

http://www.magpul.com/catalogsignup.html

Not sure if it will be available instantly, obviously it worked for a short period, haven't tried myself. Hope that this doesn't blow up any of Magpuls secret squirrel cages...

Nice stuff in there, for sure!

[federalist22]

Whoa!!!! That Magpul catalog has a lot of new stuff in it!

I hate to spoil things for anyone, or get smacked for blurting things out that I saw in the catalog, but Magpul keeps coming up with awesome stuff. Based on the quality of the Magpul components we use today, I think we can expect more reliable and efficient performance from their new products, so here is a short list from the online PDF catalog.

- 40rd PMAGs (mag level)
- Vertical grips (Rail and MOE)
- MOE Handguards (Rifle and Mid + carbine)
- MOE+ Grip (rubberized)
- Gen2 MBUS
- iPhone cases (I am getting my wife one in Foliage)
- Rail Sling Attachment (RSA)
- MS3 sling (looks like new hardware on the sling)
- Things already in circulation: BAD, PMAG 20LR, AFG, MIAD, ASAP, PRS, CTR, ACS, UBR, XTM, MOE rail sections (plus light mount section), etc.
- HK and Euro platform mags, SCAR selector set (safety)

I can't wait for Stickman to post some pics!

[Army Chief]

Worth the wait, I assure you ...

AC

[WileyCoyote]

Is the general public like myself allowed to attend the Shot Show?

Thanks

[Slippers]

It's supposed to be industry/leo/mil only, but it's fairly easy to find a pass.

[CplHicks]

Would anyone be willing to pic up a Magpul Catalogue for me?

I wouldn't mine visiting the USA for this

[Quib]

Would anyone be willing to pic up a Magpul Catalogue for me?

I wouldn't mine visiting the USA for this

The new catalog can be downloaded here: http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1905

[Pat H]

Whoa!!!! That Magpul catalog has a lot of new stuff in it!

I hate to spoil things for anyone, or get smacked for blurting things out that I saw in the catalog, but Magpul keeps coming up with awesome stuff. Based on the quality of the Magpul components we use today, I think we can expect more reliable and efficient performance from their new products, so here is a short list from the online PDF catalog.

- 40rd PMAGs (mag level)
- Vertical grips (Rail and MOE)
- MOE Handguards (Rifle and Mid + carbine)
- MOE+ Grip (rubberized)
- Gen2 MBUS
- iPhone cases (I am getting my wife one in Foliage)
- Rail Sling Attachment (RSA)
- MS3 sling (looks like new hardware on the sling)
- Things already in circulation: BAD, PMAG 20LR, AFG, MIAD, ASAP, PRS, CTR, ACS, UBR, XTM, MOE rail sections (plus light mount section), etc.
- HK and Euro platform mags, SCAR selector set (safety)

I can't wait for Stickman to post some pics!I downloaded the new catalog, very nicely done. The big changes I see are the addition of colors to their ACS stock and other stocks that only came in black, the MIAD grips set, and of course the MOE handguard for Mid-length and rifle length gas systems. Alas, the MIAD grip component with the integral trigger guard (which I like) has been discontinued.

[12131]

[wow]

http://img12.abload.de/img/g36magpul1wxv.png

http://www.abload.de/img/g68wnn.png

http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannthj4m.png


Well, dear guys from Magpul, if you need someone to T&E this stuff... *cough* [:D]
So, does that mean these things will fit the SL8, also? Interesting.:P

[Devilphish]

I got the notice from Magpul on Facebook to grab the new catalog and I did.. looks like I should have taken a closer look. Lots of good things to come. Hope this is just the start of some really cool stuff from the show.

[Mike]

So, does that mean these things will fit the SL8, also? Interesting.:P

Most probably not when I have a look at the forward part of the magazine. But I already tried to contact Drake about this, we'll see if he has time to answer. Like in another week or two... [:D]


/edit: Also it depends on which model of SL8 you refer to.

The US versions do have another magwell as the european versions as they use single stack magazines. Latter accept double-row magazines although the gun features a mod (not inside the well) to disallow the insertion of standard G36 mags.