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tac40
14 April 2010, 19:18
Has anyone shot one of new gen4 Glock 22 40 caliber? I'll be at the range next week and see how this runs against the gen 3 and RTF G22.

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Warren tactical sight

Lastrites
18 April 2010, 05:50
Report back on that test will you. Oh and don't try to use those Gen3 mags in your new baby as I don't believe they will work.

tac40
18 April 2010, 08:06
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tac40
18 April 2010, 08:08
The gen 3 mags do work, it's not ambi and you cannot switch the mag release to the right side of the frame. So far this Glock likes to shoot. most of the gen4 Glocks I've seen were the G17. Mines the only G22 here. More later.

gotm4
18 April 2010, 08:57
I have 1250 trouble free rounds through me Glock 22 Gen 4. 650 of that are with either a Surefire X300 or Streamlight TLR2 hanging off the rail. I've only shot 180gr through mine. The recoil feels similar to .357SIG...meaning harder rearward recoil but hardly any muzzle flip. I'm using 3 dot Warren Tactical sights on mine too. I also have a NY1 trigger spring and a Ghost 3.5lb connector in there. I'm using the three mags that came with it and four Gen 2/3 mags. These work in the Gen 4s as long as you leave the mag catch as stock (right handed). I'm not using either of the two grip enlargers with mine. When I carry it I carry the FBI load...Winchester Ranger 180gr Bonded JHP.

I had the finger grooves removed, grip retextured and the triggerguard undercut on mine.

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tac40
19 April 2010, 12:42
Sweet

tac40
19 April 2010, 12:48
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gen 4 mag on the rightl

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gen 4 mag on the top


Looking at the gen 3 and 4 mags, both have slot cut in the front of the mag-metal showing. The newer gen 4 mag has slots cut on both L/R. The follower if my aging eyes didn't fail me were #8 on the gen 3 and #9 on the gen 4-correct if I'm wrong here.

Both mags feed well, no hang ups and dropped freely from the pistol. My buddy from Seattle Police said they were looking into the new gen4 Glock 22.

Lastrites
19 April 2010, 16:22
Nice pictures! Gotm4 see you wasted no time in making it your own, glad to see I am not the only one were the finger grooves/ridges just don't work at least for me.

tac40
21 April 2010, 07:56
Gotm4, who did the work on your Glock 22?

tac40
30 April 2010, 21:54
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/horseplay/gen4%20Glock%2022/g22001.jpg

Gen 3 Glock 22 and the Gen 4 Glock 22, 500rds, working like a charm. More to follow

tac40
2 May 2010, 08:54
As of late, the rd count is at 500 rds of Winchester winclean 180 gr and Federal 180 gr JHP. Approximtely 100rds of winclean ammo was fired with a Surefire X300 light attached, there were no feelings of the light being shaken, loosened or any FTF to record. The mags used were the 3 new gen 4 mags that came with the G22 and another 3 gen 3 mags. Both gen 3/4 mags performed with no major problems. There was 1 slight hang up with the winclean ammo but no hang ups or FTF/FTE with the Federal ammo.

The range was both indoor and outdoor. The weather for the outdoor range was a sunny day with 74 degree temp with no wind-typical norcal weather this time of the year. My shooting partner was a retired LEO and former US Army airborne/stryker brigade noncom. My buddy had several novice shooters and 2 limited experienced shooters with him. The pistols used were the Glocks 35, gen 3 G23, G27, and the gen 4 G22. As we began the range fire from a static line fire, all shooters shot well with the Glocks. The 2 novice shooters using both the G35 and gen 4 G22 were impressed on how easy it was to shoot the Glocks.

One interesting issue did pop up, both novice shooters were women and they had a hard time racking the slide back and locking it back with the gen 4 G22. Perhaps the new dual recoil spring was a bit much. Even one of the limited experienced shooter-male had difficulty racking the slide. I did offered some encouraging motivation comments and they were able to rack the slide back finally after showing them several different methods to rack the slide back. They had no difficulty with the G35. An interesting moment, so I asked my wife to rack the slide on the gen4 G22, she gave me that look like every wife does and humored me, she did rack the slide back on her 1st try and said a choice word about the stronger spring, she never had a problem with the G19, racking the slide back.

As gotm4 mentioned his shooting experience, mine was similar, there was a sharper recoil with a slight noticeable less muzzle flip. I felt the recovery time from shot to shot was a hair bit faster-my impression. The gen4 G22 ate up all the ammo without any difficulty. I like this new gen4 G22, is it any better? I do like the new features and the larger mag release button was a welcome feature I liked-L/H shooter. I shoot both the gen 3 and 4 and will keep shooting both until I can figure out which I like. A side comment, a rookie cop was impressed with shooting our Glocks, he went out and got a G22 and shot a perfect score on the qual course.

All the shooters like the Warren tactical sights and this showed with their shot placement and grouping. The new shooters really enjoyed shooting and were impressed how simple the Glocks worked and easy to hold even with small hands. Needless to say the gen4 G22 held up well and when shooting on the move, rapid fire, and function test firing, there were no hick ups to identify. Since I am the 1st in this area with a 40 caliber gen4 G22, I got more attention then I wanted. The depart's armor who tested my gen4 G22 was like OK, everyone has to check this out because we've never seen one and everyone wants to shoot it. More to follow.

tac40
7 May 2010, 09:39
I shot the indoor qual course for my depart and scored 100% hits. At the 15 yd kneeling, I found myself hitting the target near the top of the bowling pin. The Warren tactical front sight covered the top half of the target. I'll have to adjust for that. I was quicker with the Warren Tactical sights then the Mepro sights.

tac40
13 May 2010, 22:24
After 600 rds fired, the Glock gen4 22 was broken down and all parts examined. There were no signs of wear, I expected this at a low rd count. The G22 was passed round and many shooters who were currently shooting with the gen3 G22 were surprised by the muzzle flip or lack of. They wanted more trigger time and over the next few weeks I will be loaning this pistol out to other officers from various agencies and allowing them the chance to shot the lastest version of the G22. Many like the Warren Tactical sights. I will update and post pictures later on. Be safe.

tac40
21 November 2010, 08:21
I am updating this thread. After thinking about this and speaking with another staff here, it was in the interest of all of us.

A FYI story here, So since I bought my Glock gen4 G22 earlier this year, I've fired approximately 1200 rds through it, winclean 180 gr, American Eagle 180 gr FMJ, & Win/Fed 180 JHP, the last 500 using the AE, Win & Fed. I have been on the range for the past 2 weeks, in between shooters on line I ran my gun usually firing about 8 mags worth of ammo= 120rds, every other day. I took my Surefire X300 light off and replaced it with the Streamlight TLR-1 for the range. Earlier in the year, I shot with the X300 using winclean ammo, firing approximately 100 rds with no problems.

While on the range the other day, firing my 6th mag, the G22 had a FTE/ FTF, the slide was locked out of battery and would not rack back or go forward. A complete malfunction. I removed the mag which still had 9 rds left in it and I took the light off. I try to work the slide back, racking the slide to clear the malfunction, no such luck. The slide was locked up. No one was on the range so I walked the G22 over to a table, with the pistol facing down range, I hit the back of the slide on the table to work the slide into battery, this worked. I wasn't sure if the rd was hot, so after putting on eyes & ears, I walked onto the range and fire my G22, BANG, she went into battery. I worked the slide a few times and it seemed to have resolved the problem. I did not clean the gun, after all it was a Glock, tupperware battle gun.

I believed it was the Streamlight that may have caused the problem, so I switched back to the SF X300. At the range today, after firing 9 mags of ammo, Win/Fed 180 JHP. I had no problems. I usually run the pistol hard, double taps and spread fire drills. After getting home, I took the gun apart for cleaning, I removed the recoil spring assembly and placed it on the table. As I picked up the frame for cleaning, I heard a ping sound and saw the main larger spring popping forward past the plastic tip of the recoil spring assembly. I was surprised by this.

I called my local store where I purchased the the Glock and spoke with the Glock armor there and was told they would replace the recoil spring assembly with the current model "01" an improved recoil spring assembly. So if any of you are using the Glock gen4 G22, triple check the recoil spring assembly. Apparently, the 1st released batch of the gen4 G22 had problems with the recoil spring assembly. I thought it may have been the light source, now I'm thinking it's the defective recoil spring assembly. I read about this on various websites re the Glock gen4 G17 9mm. The Glock gen4 G22 is new. So FYI. I will get some pics posted when I can. Be safe all.

Policetacteam
21 November 2010, 20:09
Our department is transitioning to the Gen 4 Glocks come the first of the year. I'm not certain which sights we are aquiring so I was curious if yours came with Warren's standard or if those were an aftermarket purchase? Great thread and really good info on the spring. I will be checking that out as well!

gotm4...who or where did you have the stippling completed by?

tac40
23 November 2010, 18:28
The Warren Tactical sights are great. They are after market and cost a bit more then the standard Glock sights. Another good optional sight to consider are the 10-8 and Heine Glock sights.
I was shooting against other officers who were using stanadard Glock sights and other known name brand nightsights. I was a bit quicker in getting on sights and follow up, sometimes that's all the differences in a gunfight. Be safe.

tac40
23 November 2010, 19:58
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Turkeys on the range, very tempting. Happy Thanksgiving Day all.

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As you can see by the pictures, The G22 had a Streamlight TLR-1 attached. I fired the G22 with a SF X300 attached previously and this combination ran fine firing approximately 100rds. The slide locked out of battery. After removing the light, I could not rack the slide back. You can see in the picture, the recoil spring assembly at the front end of the pistol-nothing seemed unusual. Finally able to work the slide back into battery, the gun fired and I worked the slide, everything seemed normal. After several days of firing, I cleaned the G22, the gun was taken apart and the recoil spring assembly was placed on the table. Seconds later the larger spring slipped over the black tip of the recoil rod-not good. At the other end of the recoil spring assembly where it rest against the barrel lug, the metal plate is slightly beaten up after 1200 rds-note there is no "01" stamped there.

I later received a new recoil spring assembly from the local store, the recoil spring assembly is stamped "01". I spoke with the Glock rep and was told the early released gen4 G22 were issued with the original designed recoil spring assembly and now being re-issued with the new "01". I will continue to be in contact with the Glock rep. I understand that S/N before "PM_" have the bad recoil spring assembly. Check your gen4 G22 and G17. Be safe all.

Policetacteam
25 November 2010, 02:28
Great info. I will deinitely be checking to see which springs ours come with! Keep us informed!

tac40
28 November 2010, 11:10
The new "01" recoil spring assembly.

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I put 30 rds through it so far, 180 gr winclean ammo at an in-door range. The Glock rep advised this should resolve the problem encountered in the 1st place.

tac40
3 December 2010, 09:27
I was advised by the Glock rep that a new RSA marked "01-1" will be supplied to the the early released gen4 Glock 22. The redesigned RSA will address the problem of the outer spring slipping over the guide rod. My gen4 Glock 22 is off my duty belt until the new spring is available.

tac40
1 January 2011, 09:21
I finally received the new "01-1" recoil spring assembly. As you can see from the pictures, there are some modifications to the RSA. I put 50 rds through it for a function check. The felt recoil was like the original spring issued with the gen4 G22. As compared with the gen3 G22, the gen4 G22, for me felt better. For the time being, this pistol will be tested to see if the new RSA holds up. I did notice at the POA, I was hitting slightly to the right. So I will continue to monitor this.

The outer spring, where it meets up with guide rod, this was built up and if you look and where the stamping of "01-1", there are modifications there as well.

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"01-1" on the left

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"01-1" on the left

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"01-1" on the top

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"01-1" on the left

B Coyote
1 January 2011, 19:14
I bought a pair of these pistols as soon as I could after being released. They are consecutive numbers. Mine both wear the medium backstrap, as it's about the same as Glock's previous pistols, and it shoot it fine. Both guns have Meprolight Night sights. Magazines are the newest type that came with the gun, and plenty of earlier pre-ambi mags. All of my G22 magazines are the tapered top with #8 followers and 11-coil springs.

The first was given 1000 rounds before I even took the second out of the box. 100% of those rounds were fired with a TLR-1 or TLR-1s in place. All ammunition was 165 grain American Eagle. I also fired 50 rounds of my duty load, 155 grain Gold Dot (all I could manage for a reliability test). The first pistol was 100% reliable for all 1050 rounds. It's now relegated to duty use. I did shoot my department's qual course with it, and all 48 rounds were flawless. Round count: 1098.

The second pistol is now at the 3300ish round mark. There was one malfunction that I'm calling an ammunition problem. It failed to fire with a solid strike to the primer. I put the bad round into my P229R and it wouldn't go off in that, either. About half of this pistols rounds have been fired with a TLR-1s. Most ammunition has been American Eagle 165 or Ranger Reduced Lead 180, both FMJ. Someone gave me a box of Fiocchi FMJ, can't remember the weight. It worked fine. So far, this pistol has also been reliable.

In anticipation of problems from the recoil spring issue I saw here, I called Glock and got an updated spring for my duty pistol. I'm going to keep the original spring in the second pistol to see how long it takes to break.

I'm a huge fan of Glock's 9mm's, and only work with the .40 because I have to. I've never liked the .40 until now.

bc

tac40
2 January 2011, 07:51
BC, keep us posted. I'm hearing from various sources re the gen4 G22-good & bad, many agencies here in California use them. Glock is resolving the issue with the new RSA.
Let see how they hold up.

B Coyote
2 January 2011, 19:26
Will do. I'm going to put another thousand through my duty gun with the new RSA to see if I can tell any difference.

bc

widecelica
14 January 2011, 19:23
i bought my gen4 22 sometime in the summer soon after it was released and my spring has no numbers on it. how do i go about getting the new safer spring? would i have to pay for it or would Glock send a replacement?

usmcvet
15 January 2011, 13:12
The gen 3 mags do work, it's not ambi and you cannot switch the mag release to the right side of the frame. So far this Glock likes to shoot. most of the gen4 Glocks I've seen were the G17. Mines the only G22 here. More later.

Rob,

Who did the frame work for you? I'd like to have my finger groves removed, my fingers take up a grove and a half.

tac40
15 January 2011, 13:56
Widecelica, the part is covered under warranty, check your S/N, if the recoil spring assembly is not marked, you may need the new RSA, either 01 or 01-1. I was told any S/N before "PM" may need the new spring. The store you purchased your Glock should not charge you for it.

widecelica
3 March 2011, 20:56
well, i called glock and they gladly sent me a new spring. my serial starts wit "pt" so unless i'm mistaken it could be after "pm" but that's just my experience. i had no issue with my old spring but i'd rather not risk it.

tac40
20 March 2011, 08:48
Since January, after another 200 rds of winchester 180 JHP, so far no issues. The recoil feel is mild as compared with a gen3 Glock 22. The new 01-1 RSA works. I spoke with another agency here in CA and their gen4 G22 are hard at work with no issues.

B Coyote
16 May 2011, 16:08
I think any issues that did exist were solved with the new RSA's. I've had zero malfunctions with another 600 rounds fired.

It seems the Gen4 G22 is as boring as previous models, at least in my experience.

bc

tac40
20 May 2011, 18:16
An update from my buddy's agency regarding the Glock gen4 G22, the officers are to turn in the gen4 G22 and go back to the gen3 G22. Approximately 400 gen4 G22 are being pulled off the streets. Local CBS news reports it's the recoil spring assembly.

Oakland Police Department recalls new guns

OAKLAND, Calif. (KGO) -- Oakland police officers have had to start carrying older pistols they recently gave up because of a defect that's been discovered in their new guns.

Oakland officers carry 40-caliber semi-automatic handguns made by Glock. A mechanical defect turned up in the Glock's newest model during training exercises. Police insist that defect never posed a danger to officers on the street or to the public.

The Oakland Police Department wants Glock to ensure the weapons' reliability before returning them to the officers.


(Copyright ©2011 KGO-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)

tac40
22 May 2011, 09:52
http://www.foxreno.com/news/27972227/detail.html

video news story

tac40
23 May 2011, 20:10
I spoke with my OPD buddy, his gen4 G22 was taken back today and he was re-issued his gen3 G22. My buddy said over the past weekend, at the range several officers were firing their new gen4 G22 and the RSA broke apart causing the slide to lock up and numerous FTF & FTE. When the RSA was removed from the slide, the larger spring shot out from the RSA. This was similar to the problems I personally experienced.

B Coyote
30 May 2011, 22:14
I'm betting they had the old-style RSA's (pre collar and relief cut in the guide ring)?

bc

GolfBravo
2 June 2011, 14:07
Same thing happening here in Europe, Gen4 is reportedly having a lot of problems with reliability and durability. Although private customers as well as several agencies fancy the new features, they tend to prefer the Gen3 due to the previously mentioned issues with Gen4. The same reason I went with a Gen3 instead of the Gen4 as I first intended.

tac40
3 June 2011, 06:19
Thanks for the input GB, keep us updated if any news from the EU, UK, or points east of you.

GolfBravo
4 June 2011, 14:50
Will do, 10-4

Rodman24
2 July 2011, 19:28
Anyone have an update on what happened with OPD? Or this issue in general?

Victor9er
14 July 2011, 21:07
I was wondering if anyone had an update on this as well...

I'm a new gun owner and new to the forums here (hello!) and I've been thinking about picking up a G22 gen4, but all of the "issues" I've been reading have me a little concerned. I stumbled across this very helpful and informative thread while searching, and I'd like to hear some more about what's happening from you guys.

Thanks.

GolfBravo
15 July 2011, 10:31
...checking with local Glock owners and armorers, will also try to obtain some info from Austria. Will keep you guys posted.

tac40
21 July 2011, 18:43
Well with the OPD guns, the RSA were early generations and caused FTE/FTF problems. This was discovered on the range and a general recall was issued out and the gen 3 G22 were issued back to the officers. I was at the local Glock day sale today and the gen 4 Glocks are selling in the 9mm and 40. I like to think the problem has been resolved. I still use the gen 3 G26/19/17.

Victor9er
22 July 2011, 20:09
Thanks, appreciate any further info you guys can provide. Like you I'm hopefull (and pretty sure) that the issues have been resolved by this point. I recently bought a gen 4 G19 and have put 300+ rounds through it with zero FTF/FTE so far. And this from a new shooter to boot.

I'm thinking about picking up a G22 as well and if I do I'll be sure the first thing I look at is the recoil spring to see what number it has on it!

GolfBravo
28 July 2011, 12:27
OK, so my contacts at Glock came back to me. According to their info, all Gen4 Glocks made in the US have been upgraded and all the problems fixed from. All Glocks made from May 2011 on should be problem free. As far as Europe goes, the same thing applies, however the factory upgrades for Gen4 were done from June on. Also, in the US, they are supposedly replacing the faulty Gen4's with new ones as long as the owner can provide proof of problems. They are supposedly throwing in an extra magazine for the troubles. I'm still waiting for the official reply, but this should be pretty spot on. That's it for now. Stay safe.

Eric
28 July 2011, 14:40
Thanks for the inside update GB.

Rodman24
28 July 2011, 18:35
OK, so my contacts at Glock came back to me. According to their info, all Gen4 Glocks made in the US have been upgraded and all the problems fixed from. All Glocks made from May 2011 on should be problem free. As far as Europe goes, the same thing applies, however the factory upgrades for Gen4 were done from June on. Also, in the US, they are supposedly replacing the faulty Gen4's with new ones as long as the owner can provide proof of problems. They are supposedly throwing in an extra magazine for the troubles. I'm still waiting for the official reply, but this should be pretty spot on. That's it for now. Stay safe.


Thanks for the update.

tac40
28 July 2011, 19:15
Thanks for the update.

Victor9er
28 July 2011, 20:59
OK, so my contacts at Glock came back to me. According to their info, all Gen4 Glocks made in the US have been upgraded and all the problems fixed from. All Glocks made from May 2011 on should be problem free. As far as Europe goes, the same thing applies, however the factory upgrades for Gen4 were done from June on. Also, in the US, they are supposedly replacing the faulty Gen4's with new ones as long as the owner can provide proof of problems. They are supposedly throwing in an extra magazine for the troubles. I'm still waiting for the official reply, but this should be pretty spot on. That's it for now. Stay safe.

Thanks!! :)

GolfBravo
29 July 2011, 02:16
No worries, glad to be of assistance. If/when anything new pops up, I'll let you guys know.

Victor9er
19 August 2011, 06:46
There seems to be a shortage on this gun right now.... I'm trying to order one from my local gun store and it's on back order. Most places online seem to be out of stock as well. Hopefully they'll get them in soon.

lamarbrog
19 August 2011, 09:14
Gen3 was Glock Perfection.

The only Glocks I've had come back because they didn't work right out of the box were Gen4. I really hope they don't discontinue Gen3. Simple and effective.

Victor9er
24 August 2011, 08:33
Gen3 was Glock Perfection.

The only Glocks I've had come back because they didn't work right out of the box were Gen4. I really hope they don't discontinue Gen3. Simple and effective.

I have to disagree. If the Gen3 was perfection then why so many complaints and aftermarket changes to the grip? There was an obvious issue there otherwise Glock would never have made the RTF version to begin with. The grip on the Gen4 is much improved over the Gen3 in that aspect.

I don't think anyone would argue that the mag release on the Gen4 is also much improved over the Gen3 as well. On top of that the ability to switch it for left-handed shooters is yet another improvement that has long been needed.

The different sized back-straps may not be for everyone, but that's why they're available, because everyone is different and has different sized hands. Glock finally realized this and, like the mag release, made an improvement that was a long time coming. The regular grip on the Gen4 is a little smaller than the Gen3, and at first it felt good to me. But I noticed I was pulling my shots consistantly to the right. A quick change to the medium backstrap and bingo, problem solved. I'm sure the large would do the same for anyone with bigger hands than mine. (I don't have very big hands)

So, overall I think those are all much needed improvements in the Gen4 over the "perfection" of the Gen3. Now the recoil spring could certainly be argued, but as noted in this thread any "bugs" or issues with that particular piece has been addressed and I think the Gen4 is every bit as reliable as the previous generations at this point. Remember, at one time the Gen2 was "perfection" too.

I have over 400 rounds through my Gen4 G19 with zero problems or malfunctions. I have a Gen4 G22 on order and should get it in a couple of days. I'm looking forward to putting a few hundred rounds through it as well. [:D]

tac40
27 August 2011, 14:31
Thanks for sharing Ninja Glock, keep us posted with your experience with the gen4 Glocks. You're correct the gen4 has features which makes the current Glocks a bit more user friendly. If I had some $$$, I love the features on the Salient Arms Glock and hands down buy one. The Glock 9mm I own and shoot regularly with are all gen 3, they work for me and I beat them down and they rock on, every pistol/carbine/shotgun class I've been to they get used down and dirty. These Glocks are hardly cleaned during the class, I do lube them up during the class. So are gen 3 Glocks perfection? It does come close, I never had an issue with the grip angle or mag release. I was told by the Glock reps, the gen3 Glocks are still being produced. Some models may be dropped but no specific model were mentioned.

Licciardi
1 September 2011, 21:14
Hi I am new here and new to handguns. Just bought my first handgun today a Glock 22 gen 4 and i noticed that my RSA has no numbers on it. I have yet to fire the gun and was just curious. Ive been reading about this a lot online and wasn't sure if i should fire the gun yet. thx

tac40
2 September 2011, 07:13
you can, perhaps contact Glock rep or the gunstore and ask them about the RSA, which current RSA should be in the gen4 G22. I understand Glock will replace the RSA as part of your warrenty. Let us know how it works out.

Licciardi
3 September 2011, 09:23
Contacted Glock and told them that my RSA has no marking numbers on it. They took my information from me and said they were sending me the updated RSA. Great customer service, was on the phone for less than 5min lol

Stickman
3 September 2011, 11:03
I love the features on the Salient Arms Glock



Their website makes me cringe, I can't figure anything out about what they are actually selling or doing.

nraliferddomega
4 September 2011, 16:33
I love my gen3 G22. Untold rounds thru it. No failures.
Recently purchased gen4 G26 as a backup and CC.
Compared it to my friend's gen 3.
Much improved grip frame and magazine release.
Sold with 3 magazines.

Gray
4 September 2011, 21:06
Stick,

"Their website makes me cringe, I can't figure anything out about what they are actually selling or doing."

Now I don't feel so obtuse.

tac40
7 September 2011, 17:52
http://www.teamglock.com/customer-service/recoil-spring-exchange


GLOCK Inc. is voluntarily exchanging the recoil spring assembly (RSA) on its new Gen4 pistols (with the exception of G26 and G27 models). GLOCK has developed a new design to the recoil spring assemblies on its Gen4 pistols to replace several variations that are functioning in the market today. As part of the company’s commitment to perfection, we are voluntarily exchanging the existing RSA in order to ensure our products perform up to GLOCK’s stringent standards.

GLOCK is replacing the RSA in all Gen4s sold before July 22, 2011 at no cost. Please complete the following procedure to receive a new RSA. The RSA can safely and simply be swapped out using normal field stripping protocols. If you have additional questions, please contact GLOCK at 1-877-745-8523 with your serial number and model number.

CONSUMER ACTION:
1.Call 1-877-745-8523 with your serial number and model number to request your modified RSA. GLOCK will verify your serial number and collect shipping information
2.Within 30 days, GLOCK will send you a replacement RSA along with a pre-addressed envelope to mail in your old spring
3.Ensure your Gen4 is completely unloaded
4.Field strip your GLOCK per the instructions found in your ‘Instructions for Use’ manual that came with your pistol and replace the old RSA with the new one
5.Place the old RSA in the supplied shipping container and give to the United States Postal Service (USPS)

B Coyote
8 September 2011, 21:57
I've already ordered my new springs.

I'm glad to see Glock getting their act together on this spring issue.

bc

tac40
9 September 2011, 06:20
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/horseplay/RSA.jpg

gen4 RSA

Victor9er
16 September 2011, 11:27
Great chart Tac40!!

Here's an update from me: Finally got my G22 gen4 a couple of weeks ago. It was fresh off the assembly line as the difference in dates from the test fire at the factory and the day I got it was only 8 days! Anyway, I checked the RSA and sure enough it's got the newest assembly in there, the "0-1-4" just like in the chart. The first 100 rounds went through it flawlessly. Looking to put some more through this weekend. [:D]

Out of curiosity I went back to my G19 and checked it. The RSA in it is stamped "0-4" and I purchased it back in May. I called Glock anyway, even though I haven't had any issues with it yet, and they sent me a new spring with no problems. The new one is stamped with the "0-4-3" like in the chart. I have yet to put it in... like I said over 400 or so rounds through the "old" spring and no malfunctions so far.

I'm undecided if I'm going to go ahead and put the new one in or just leave well enough alone and keep the new spring as a spare... we'll see.

tac40
30 September 2011, 07:50
Thanks for sharing Ninja Glock, according to my buddies at Oakland Police, they were re-issued the gen4 G22 with new RSA this past week. Hopefully the updated RSA will resolve the problems.

Rodman24
24 October 2011, 17:00
I picked up my Gen4 22 this weekend and put 200 rounds of Atlanta Arms through it. No issues whatsoever.

Rodman24
24 November 2011, 08:24
Now about 1000 rounds without any issues. I have to say that while I love my G20, I think this may be my favorite Glock.