QUIB'S ODORLESS MINERAL SPIRITS/CLP BOLT CLEANING PROCEDURE

[mdashoot]

what section of walmart has the screen? I cant find one.

[Quib]

Try the Kitchen Department. The screen is a kitchen drawer organizer.



http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4718126067_37d558fc49_b.jpg

[mdashoot]

thats where I looked first but the only ones I seen were sectioned

[Quib]

Maybe try the Office/School Supply Department, or another WalMart store nearby.

The screen is certainly not necessary, but it does make the job much easier.

ETA: Welcome to Weapon Evolution.

[mdashoot]

I will try other locations/online, thanks for the help

[Quib]

Not a problem, glad to help. Good luck with your search.

[Sessrumnir]

Don't mean to resurrect an old post but I'm looking to do a setup like this for my cleaning. I've found a bunch of different wire mesh organizers that are a good shape/size, but they're all epoxy coated. Is that going to be an issue? Should I soak them in something to remove the coating 1st or should the OMS/CLP mix not have any effect on the coating?

[Quib]

Not a problem, that is what this thread is for!

OMS is a very mild solvent. As I point out in my tutorial, I've used it for years to wash down aircraft powerplants and airframe parts with no damage to painted surfaces. I would venture to guess that it would not affect the finish on your basket. But, to be on the safe side, try dipping one corner just to be sure.

The basket you see in my tutorial (and above) is painted. I've been using it for a few years now with no affect to its finish.

[Sessrumnir]

Sounds good to me. My worry is less for the basket and more for some kind of paint or epoxy liquefying and getting all over the BCG.

[Quib]

You can always forgo the basket, and just drop the parts directly in your tray. I did this before I started using the basket, and fished the parts out with surgeons forceps.

[fuse]

Link to original?

[Quib]

OMS/CLP procedure, plus more.......http://http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?33-How-To-Guides (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?33-How-To-Guides)

[hikeeba]

FYI, I found several different-sized wire basket thingies at a Bed Bath & Beyond store, but I'll be gosh-danged if I can find ANYTHING similar ANYWHERE online. The two wire baskets/trays I purchased are about 2" x 4", and then maybe 2" x 8". I acquired the 2" x 8" thinking it could contain the carrier and all the bolt components, but the 8" basket/tray is too long to sit flat inside the Anchor Hocking 8" x 8" baking dish that I use for the cleaning vessel. The Anchor Hocking baking dish I use was purchased at BB&B, also, and is this dish https://www.anchoronline.com/bake/oven-basics-8-square-cake-dish.html but it came with a plastic lid that snaps on tight. If I remember correctly, the dish/lid combo was on sale for under $5.00. The lid is nice for 'securing' the vessel when I want to let things soak, or if I need to move the cleaning/soaking operation around while in progress (I have a small work area). I do not store my Quib's Cleaning Solution in the 8" x 8" dish.


Thanks, Quib, for taking the time to put your cleaning process together. It works well for me!

[Quib]

Thanks, Quib, for taking the time to put your cleaning process together. It works well for me!

You're welcome!

Glad to hear you're obtaining good results with the OMS/CLP solution!

[iron x]

OMS/CLP procedure, plus more.......http://http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?33-How-To-Guides (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?33-How-To-Guides)

Can i use OMS/CLP to clean the N4 bore barreL and the upper receiver?

[Constable 1]

Quib,

Any thoughts on mobil 1 in place of CLP?? as I understand the CLP is to provide some lube/anti rust protection to the OMS?
I get to wondering about things some times and my mind wont let go until I ask the question.

[Quib]

How are Mobile1's anti-corrosive properties compared to CLP?

I've never given M1 any thought, plus if you're looking at the substitution of CLP for M1 due to the cost savings M1 offers, the OMS/CLP mixture doesn't use enough CLP for it to really make a difference.

If you try it out, let me know what you think.

[Constable 1]

The main reason I was considering it, is that my current bottle of CLP is low and I cannot get anymore until the next gun show.
and I have Mobile 1 on Hand, I will give it a try and see how it seems to work.

[Quib]

Sounds good.

[BMYK]

So you prefer CLP to Synthetic motor oil which I saw in a previous post?

Thank you

[Hatter]

I second BMYK's question regarding oil as I've seen this and had discussions [read arguments] with buddies about the use of oils in firearms.

Also, Quib, do you happen to have a more printable version of your procedure? I'm a huge fan of printable stuff that I can mark up and make notes on. Thanks for the heads up!

[Quib]

So you prefer CLP to Synthetic motor oil which I saw in a previous post?

Thank you

I prefer to stick with CLP. I like the anti-corrosive and cleaning properties.

If you go with syn motor oil let me know what you think.

[Quib]

Also, Quib, do you happen to have a more printable version of your procedure? I'm a huge fan of printable stuff that I can mark up and make notes on. Thanks for the heads up!


I have been asked on a few occasions if I ever planned on putting together a book. But for now, nothing printable. Sorry.

Is it possible to simply save the images and print them out?

[Hatter]

No worries.

I'm sure it is possible but I haven't played that much with the WEVO printing possibilities. I may try to use screen hunter to take what I need and crop into a word document.

For everyone's reference this little application comes in very handy at work.

http://www.download32.com/screenhunter-5-0-free-i41999.html

[Quib]

One option: You could try "Shift/Print Screen" to capture the screen shot as a .jpg, edit that .jpg, then paste it to a word doc to print out.

[Hatter]

True, the downside to that is that the "Shift/Print Screen" function does just that. Captures the entire screen. The screenhunter program allows you to hide the program and hit F6 to take a screen capture. It actually brings up a cursur with grid lines and a magnified view of the intersection of these lines to allow very accurate selection of the screen. This this you can just select what is needed and not deal with cropping or resizing. You can also select a few different types of files its saved as (GIF, JPEG, BITMAP). I'm a nerdy engineer who loves guns. Let me join your forum and this is what you get. LOL

[Quib]

That sounds interesting....I'll have to look more into it! Thanks!

ETA: I deal all day long with nerdy aerospace engineers.....it's all good. ;)

[Mer2112]

The main reason I was considering it, is that my current bottle of CLP is low and I cannot get anymore until the next gun show.
and I have Mobile 1 on Hand, I will give it a try and see how it seems to work.


Hi,

Just looking for an update. Did you try it and if so, how did it work?

Thanks

[nfafan]

Would you recommend removing the "o-ring" or rubber insert from the extractor spring of my AR bolt before soaking the bolt portion of the BCG?
No biggie if I should, as that is what I already do when I soak-clean the small parts, but if I could save that step... or maybe soaking just the bolt (intact) in detergent motor oil vs. this mix?

Thanks!

[Mer2112]

Mineral spirits won't hurt the o-ring so there's no need to remove it.

[Quib]

Would you recommend removing the "o-ring" or rubber insert from the extractor spring of my AR bolt before soaking the bolt portion of the BCG?
No biggie if I should, as that is what I already do when I soak-clean the small parts, but if I could save that step... or maybe soaking just the bolt (intact) in detergent motor oil vs. this mix?

Thanks!

You should be fine, as long as the o-ring and extractor spring insert are quality parts from a reputable source and not some aftermarket junk.

I do not recall the specs of the Crane o-ring material, but you have to understand that these types of parts need to be made of materials that can withstand extremely high operating temps, as well as resistance to and submersion in, a wide variety of chemicals and lubes.

I do not soak my parts for longer than maybe 30-45 minutes max, have been using this method for years. I have never seen damage to rubber or composite/plastic weapon parts.

[markm]

He should remove the O ring period.... and throw it away.

[critterdoc]

OMS is a very mild solvent. As I point out in my tutorial, I've used it for years to wash down aircraft powerplants and airframe parts with no damage to painted surfaces. Master Quib! Your expertise and contributions to weapons and weapons maintenance are greatly appreciated.

"White spirits" I get, but the new eco-friendly "Green" formulation causes me serious concern. My honey was kind enough to pick up a gallon of Odorless Mineral Spirits for me from Honey Do City (Home Depot) but I was dismayed to note that the blend looked as though it had been produced by a dairy cow - redefining the meaning of "White Spirits." I'm not opposed to caring for the environment but don't think I want this additive in my weapons. Klean-Strip states that this ''Green'' Odorless Mineral Spirits Substitute is [a] fast-acting, eco-conscious solvent is made with a relatively low Mineral Spirits content and 65% or more renewable resources, whatever those might be. I cannot believe that "low content [milky] Mineral Spirits" will be anywhere near as effective as a degreaser and general cleaning solvent as the good ole high octane stuff.

Before returning the container I placed several drops on several different surfaces along side of drops of clear OMS and noted that they were not the same after air drying. Several reviews suggest that the new look is the result of introducing adulterants rather than additives.

I wonder if you or anyone else here has any reason to think that problems could/will follow use of this new formula of "milky" Green OMS in our firearms?

[Quib]

The new ECO friendly OMS is starting to turn up everywhere, including some aviation maintenance organizations. I prefer the standard OMS and will stick to it as long as it's available.

Have never tried mixing the new stuff in my OMS/CLP formula, and do not plan on it either.

[critterdoc]

FYI, I found several different-sized wire basket thingies at a Bed Bath & Beyond store, but I'll be gosh-danged if I can find ANYTHING similar ANYWHERE online. The two wire baskets/trays I purchased are about 2" x 4", and then maybe 2" x 8". I acquired the 2" x 8" thinking it could contain the carrier and all the bolt components, but the 8" basket/tray is too long to sit flat inside the Anchor Hocking 8" x 8" baking dish that I use for the cleaning vessel. The Anchor Hocking baking dish I use was purchased at BB&B, also, and is this dish https://www.anchoronline.com/bake/oven-basics-8-square-cake-dish.html but it came with a plastic lid that snaps on tight. If I remember correctly, the dish/lid combo was on sale for under $5.00. The lid is nice for 'securing' the vessel when I want to let things soak, or if I need to move the cleaning/soaking operation around while in progress (I have a small work area). I do not store my Quib's Cleaning Solution in the 8" x 8" dish.


Thanks, Quib, for taking the time to put your cleaning process together. It works well for me!

Pesky string gremlins! Try looking for sterilizing or disinfecting trays on Google, in beauty supply or dental supply stores, or even easier at Amazon.com.

Here's a list of links I came up with:

http://www.amazon.com/Mehaz-MC1000-Disinfectant-Tray/dp/B000RAAF62/ref=pd_sim_sbs_bt_2
http://www.amazon.com/ULTRONICS-Ultra-Tray-System-Model-UL0300/dp/B003CHU3NW/ref=sr_1_4?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1330349383&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/Ultronics-Ultra-Tray-System-UL0300/dp/B000RFT8OM/ref=sr_1_5?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1330349383&sr=1-5
http://www.amazon.com/Debra-Lynn-Professional-Plastic-Sterilizing/dp/B000VDAE0C/ref=pd_sbs_bt_1
http://www.net32.com/ec/palmero-germicide-tray-grey-use-with-accepted-d-112702
http://www.net32.com/ec/biosonic-soaking-polypropylene-resin-tray-16-oz-d-80630
http://ultronicsusa.com/Products/Trays.aspx
http://www.purespadirect.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VB-193225&click=10549
http://www.purespadirect.com/Small-Tray-Disinfectant-System-2-5-H-x-9-W-x-5-D-p/vu-201630.htm
http://www.net32.com/ec/biosonic-soaking-polypropylene-resin-tray-16-oz-d-80630
http://ultronicsusa.com/Products/Trays/tabid/94/ProdID/4/CatID/3/Default.aspx


The majority of these will have a molded internal parts tray/strainer tray that closely fits inside of the outer wall of the container but none are likely to seal tightly enough to be spill proof. The last link for the Ultronics Ultra Tray II is quite a bit deeper and will probably not spill nearly as much as the smaller units. I doubt that any of these plastic containers will be damaged by mild solvents such as OMS.

[critterdoc]

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[Seagrave7]

FYI, I found several different-sized wire basket thingies at a Bed Bath & Beyond store, but I'll be gosh-danged if I can find ANYTHING similar ANYWHERE online. The two wire baskets/trays I purchased are about 2" x 4", and then maybe 2" x 8". I acquired the 2" x 8" thinking it could contain the carrier and all the bolt components, but the 8" basket/tray is too long to sit flat inside the Anchor Hocking 8" x 8" baking dish that I use for the cleaning vessel. The Anchor Hocking baking dish I use was purchased at BB&B, also, and is this dish https://www.anchoronline.com/bake/oven-basics-8-square-cake-dish.html but it came with a plastic lid that snaps on tight. If I remember correctly, the dish/lid combo was on sale for under $5.00. The lid is nice for 'securing' the vessel when I want to let things soak, or if I need to move the cleaning/soaking operation around while in progress (I have a small work area). I do not store my Quib's Cleaning Solution in the 8" x 8" dish.


Thanks, Quib, for taking the time to put your cleaning process together. It works well for me!

Would these work?

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=130634&RN=205&