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Custom-X_Sponjah
19 October 2010, 14:56
Link to website and belt inserted by admin (Stick)
http://www.hsgi.us/proddetail.asp?prod=HSG-SGPB&cat=18


We have had our 'Big Ole' Modular Padded Belt for years, and has sold well.
Originally designed for full size pouches, Its not as low profile and sleek as customers want today.
Well with all the rave moving to smaller lighter belt systems we decided to knock heads to develop a new system that couldn't compare to anything on the market.
We listened to all the negatives about other belt systems and took on the task of fixing those problems.

Out popped the Sure-Grip Padded Belt System..


This new Modular Padded Belt System is the one of the slimmest, and sturdiest on the market. The key feature that makes this belt stand apart from the rest is our use of Neoprene as the Padding. If you are familiar with our Wa/Wee Shoulder Pads, you will love the way this belt feels. The Neoprene adds a unique "Gel Like Feel" to the belt while adding a level of Grip that is unlike any other belt system we have seen. The belt has a removable HDPE stiffener sheet through the entire main portion where the 3 continuous Rows of PALS/MOLLE are located for added stability. There are 3 Access ports for the attachment of subloads directly to the Interior belt. 2 are located on the Hips at 3oclock and 9oclock, the 3rd is located at the 6oclock position to attach Dump Pouches directly to the Inner Belt. 4 Suspender Attachment points are located around the belt. There is a 2" Strip of Hook Material sewn the entire Length of the Interior Belt Channel on the Body Side and 10" strips along the outer side near the pocket Openings. Available in 4 Common sizes. (Custom Sizes Available on Request) 2" Wide "Duty" style Scuba Webbing belt can be added for an additional $15. The "Duty" Style belt has Loop Material Sewn inside and out to "attach" to the Strips of Hook along the Interior Belt Channel and create a SOLID grip of the entire system. Made in the USA and Comes with HSGI's Lifetime warranty.

http://www.hsgi.us/prodimages/SGPB1L.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/inout.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/SGPB2.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/SGPB3.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/SGPB4.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/HSGI/SGPB5.jpg

Any Questions?

CXS


Link to website and item inserted by admin (Stick)
http://www.hsgi.us/proddetail.asp?prod=HSG-SGPB&cat=18

The-S
19 October 2010, 15:17
price?

UDT
19 October 2010, 15:19
Looks nice, as The-S said - price please.

Custom-X_Sponjah
19 October 2010, 15:57
Its on our website.
I don't want to step on any toes by "advertising"..

CXS

Paulo_Santos
19 October 2010, 18:48
$65 without duty belt. $80 with duty belt.
Do you have any pictures of someone wearing it? All of the pics are up close and hard to see how it looks when someone is wearing it. If not, not a big deal.

Custom-X_Sponjah
19 October 2010, 18:58
$65 without duty belt. $80 with duty belt.
Do you have any pictures of someone wearing it? All of the pics are up close and hard to see how it looks when someone is wearing it. If not, not a big deal.

I'll see about snapping some pics this weekend.
We're waiting on a shipment of HDPE to finish up the first run of Pre-Ordered belts.
There are 10 Prototypes floating around with LEO, .Mil, and Industry Partners, I'll see if I can get one of them to snap some pics..
There are a couple changes between the prototype belts and the production models..

CXS

Stickman
19 October 2010, 18:58
The slim profile looks good, I think you guys have a winner.

Custom-X_Sponjah
20 October 2010, 07:21
The slim profile looks good, I think you guys have a winner.

Stick if you want one to play with let me know what Size Waist you are..

CXS

TripleBravo
20 October 2010, 10:49
Looks like a good system. I'd be interested in reading some user reviews.

Custom-X_Sponjah
20 October 2010, 11:43
Looks like a good system. I'd be interested in reading some user reviews.

Since this is a brand new Item, you shouldn't hear any true reviews for a month or two.
Except maybe the Lucky few that received the prototype belts..

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
20 October 2010, 12:22
Do you have any pictures of someone wearing it? All of the pics are up close and hard to see how it looks when someone is wearing it. If not, not a big deal.

The Sure-Grip Padded Belt System is .75" Thick at the thickest point..

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5629.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5628.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5627.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5630.jpg

CXS

Paulo_Santos
20 October 2010, 12:33
Thanks for the pictures. That definitely looks nice. Is this geared for any specific use, or was this requested by anyone specific?

Custom-X_Sponjah
20 October 2010, 13:50
Designed to be the best all around belt system we could offer.
Some Problems we addressed were the belt moving Around and shifting while running/extracting Mags, being too thick, not being sturdy enough (Floppy), expensive, Not Capable of mounting Regular dump pouches, and just shitty all around.
Our design features solved all of these problems.
Also it just looks Sexy..

Competition Shooters, Gun Fighters, and Hobbyists will all see the benifits of this design after they use it.

We could say its designed specifically for Delta Elite DEVGRU Tier 1 SEAL Operators, but the fact is we build all of our gear to withstand their harsh treatment.
Some products we offer were designed by/for guys like that and we give credit where its due...

I do know if a Picture pops up with Travis Haley or Chris Costa wearing it, we wont be able to keep it in stock.. lol

CXS

Paulo_Santos
20 October 2010, 17:58
Thanks for the reply. Just a suggestion, but I would add some pictures with some examples of different items set up on the belt. Such as a 3-gun set-up, tactical set-up, etc. I think it would give people more of an idea and help out more.

Stickman
23 October 2010, 23:41
I missed the first time around that this still had padding in it, which makes me now like it even more.

Custom-X_Sponjah
24 October 2010, 14:30
I missed the first time around that this still had padding in it, which makes me now like it even more.

Exactly..
"Gel Like Feel" Neoprene Padding..
And the whole package is only .75" Thick..

Prototype Belt Being used with Some Pistol TACO's and Rifle TACO's...
He used the belt during this Class he was instructing without the HDPE stiffener.
Currently waiting on an AAR from a 3 Day handgun class he attended at USTC this weekend..

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/Belt.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/DefConNC/Oct%20Handgun/DSC02451.jpg

CXS

Stickman
24 October 2010, 20:35
I missed something yet again.... I had no idea it could be used with a duty belt. This just took over in place of a larger project.

TehLlama
25 October 2010, 17:25
This is really making me considering going all out with a belt and running a Cobra instructors belt under it, and moving to a QLS 6004.

Any possibilities of these being sold as a package with TACO pouches (i.e. pair of pistol and rifle TACO pouches?)

Custom-X_Sponjah
25 October 2010, 18:04
This is really making me considering going all out with a belt and running a Cobra instructors belt under it, and moving to a QLS 6004.

Any possibilities of these being sold as a package with TACO pouches (i.e. pair of pistol and rifle TACO pouches?)

Yea. You buy them all in one order, I'll package them up in the same box..
Gimme a Call tomorrow..

CXS

The-S
25 October 2010, 18:32
you should offer a nice discount to forum members hint hint

beagle
25 October 2010, 19:25
Thank you HSGI for making what looks like a solid, feature-packed belt at a price-point even a meager state employee may be able to afford!

B.

Custom-X_Sponjah
25 October 2010, 20:53
Thank you HSGI for making what looks like a solid, feature-packed belt at a price-point even a meager state employee may be able to afford!

B.

Yea, that's not gonna work..
I'm raising the price tomorrow..
Unless your a TIER 1 Operator with an unlimited budget, you shouldn't buy our gear..

Wait.. Never mind, we're not that kind of company..[BD]
Glad we could keep some jingle in your pocket, even if that means I don't Get the Big Ass Truck I want... ;)

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
27 October 2010, 09:29
Due to the supply of Multicam Materials being terrible, I am taking the Multicam w/Multicam Webbing belts offline.
If you want one that is Multicam w/Multicam Webbing please call to order it.
We will be offering Multicam w/Khaki Webbing till we get our order of Multicam webbing Late December..
Thank You for understanding.

CXS

Stickman
12 November 2010, 23:45
As I hold one of these in my hands, my initial thoughts are that this is quite nice. The upcoming review is going to take this from a Law Enforcement perspective as I think this has a lot of potential.

TehLlama
13 November 2010, 11:01
I think I've been able to work out how to run a dump pouch (USMC Issue or EAG) at the 7:30 position...

What sort of extra cost would I be looking at for one in Coyote?

Custom-X_Sponjah
14 November 2010, 15:33
As I hold one of these in my hands, my initial thoughts are that this is quite nice. The upcoming review is going to take this from a Law Enforcement perspective as I think this has a lot of potential.

I look forward to hearing thoughts.

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
14 November 2010, 15:40
I think I've been able to work out how to run a dump pouch (USMC Issue or EAG) at the 7:30 position...

What sort of extra cost would I be looking at for one in Coyote?

I have set up 2 Belt setups this week with the USMC issue dump pouch at the 7:30 position.
And a handful more this past week I made an adapter for the issue dump pouch.
My buddies in 3 Charlie are grabbing up all the belts we make.
They are currently in a shooting package and are running pistol taco's for their 1911's and their dump pouches and Safariland rigs are hanging off the supplied inner belt.

CXS

TehLlama
14 November 2010, 22:06
AAaaah, that's exactly what I had in mind. I thought I was onto something unique (7:30 Dump Pouch, Pistol Taco pouches for 1911/M9/M&P9, and Safariland UBL with 6004's (for that mess of pistols). I'll give you guys a ring later this week, hopefully I can figure out how to show my wife and convince her I need these for the holidays.

Custom-X_Sponjah
16 November 2010, 12:25
Here are some pics of one of the T&E Belts we sent out.
This Marine Scout Sniper has been in the deserts for the past couple months training for an upcoming deployment using the SGPB.
Of course since we changed it slightly (added the 6oclock subload opening) since he got this one we had to give him a brand new one before he rolls out this week. :-)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs489.ash2/76230_175608532450831_111845712160447_600681_64249 88_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs568.ash2/149043_175608512450833_111845712160447_600679_3123 093_n.jpg

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CXS

TehLlama
16 November 2010, 21:06
Is Coyote brown a possibility for color?

Custom-X_Sponjah
17 November 2010, 06:24
Is Coyote brown a possibility for color?

After the first of the year maybe...

CXS

Stickman
2 December 2010, 05:35
I look forward to hearing thoughts.

CXS


My thoughts, as well as the thoughts of the other LE involved in this so far have continued to be highly positive. The belt does not slide or move around, which is a huge plus.

One of the most common injuries for LEO is the lower back. There are other belt systems on the market that are padded, but they are all requiring the use of an underbelt. This is traditional and every real cop knows we wear two belts. The issue with this is that the under belt tends to dig into the L3/L4/L5 area of the back, which is often where the disk is damaged. While padding helps, there is still the pressure against the lower back, though the padded options certainly help.

If the HSGI is able to function properly without the use of the under belt, it will be a monumental step forward for LEO. The molle system is a draw back for some issued equipment that is retained on the belt, but we are working with other options right now to show a functional full duty load out.

Expect that this evaluation will take at least another month. The gear needs to all be functional as its being used for daily patrol on the streets of a high crime city. Once we get everything setup, and have 100+ hours of duty use with it, we'll report back with what we find out.

tac40
2 December 2010, 12:44
Stick is right, this belt system looks promising if we can make it for the LEO community. If you're at the SHOT, I'll see you there and put a bug in your ear.

TehLlama
3 December 2010, 21:09
Hmm... an LEO Package - Black HSGI Belt, TACO Pistol Pouches, an oversize TACO for a radio, and maybe even other odd-sized pouches (for items like cuffs and ASPs) is something that might work. I have zero practical experience for this, but the one-size-fits-all might be a hit.

TripleBravo
6 December 2010, 01:12
I might have to try one of these out. I'm eager to hear Stick's review.

DM1975
8 December 2010, 16:10
Looks like I am gonna buy one of these sometime soon. My local tacticcal shops only carry a limited supply of stuff, and some of it is crap, but with my bad back I decided to try out a war belt and they had a Condor one in multicam for sale for cheap so I bought it to try it out and now I am hooked. I am gonna have to get me a good one now. HSGI has always been quality stuff in my opinion.

Stickman
8 December 2010, 17:19
I think you will find substantial differences over the other types of belts out there.

DM1975
8 December 2010, 17:28
Thanks Stick. I may ask Santa for one this year ;)

Sak007
14 December 2010, 21:36
looks interesting for 3 gun , any possibility of a taco for saiga 12 mags ?

Custom-X_Sponjah
15 December 2010, 06:49
looks interesting for 3 gun , any possibility of a taco for saiga 12 mags ?

I use 8 rounders in my TACO's...

Here are some pics of my different setups using my Double Decker TACO Combo..

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5539.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5541.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/DSCF5545.jpg

CXS

Stickman
22 December 2010, 21:42
A simple miscommunication on my part set this back a few weeks.



Topher- Is there a way to double the mag pouches? I'm thinking about Sig P220 or 1911 mags....

Custom-X_Sponjah
22 December 2010, 23:41
A simple miscommunication on my part set this back a few weeks.



Topher- Is there a way to double the mag pouches? I'm thinking about Sig P220 or 1911 mags....

If your talking Pistol TACO's, then no. Not with the current design..
Once we get this surge of orders under control we are planning on more designs with the TACO series..
I don't think double decker pistol TACO's are even on the drawing board... Well till now..

CXS

TehLlama
25 December 2010, 22:21
Are we talking about tiered ones (one slightly higher than the other)?

anto
30 December 2010, 03:56
I'm currently building a belt setup for carbine/pistol classes, but I'm not done with it yet. Here's what I have so far:

HSGI Sure-Grip Belt
Blackhawk Reinforced Inner Duty Belt
US Grunt Gear Gen4 Double Pistol Pouch
US Grunt Gear Gen1 Triple Rifle Pouch
Surefire V70

Needed:

Kydex Holster
EAG Dump Pouch

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9060/img2545jh.th.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9060/img2545jh.jpg)

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Custom-X_Sponjah
1 January 2011, 15:15
I'm currently building a belt setup for carbine/pistol classes, but I'm not done with it yet. Here's what I have so far:

Blackstone Tactical Sure-Grip Belt
Blackhawk Reinforced Inner Duty Belt
US Grunt Gear Gen4 Double Pistol Pouch
US Grunt Gear Gen1 Triple Rifle Pouch
Surefire V70

Needed:

Kydex Holster
EAG Dump Pouch

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9060/img2545jh.th.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9060/img2545jh.jpg)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4336/img2544ra.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4336/img2544ra.jpg)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7503/img2543u.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7503/img2543u.jpg)

Whats your thought on the belt so far?

CXS

anto
1 January 2011, 23:04
It's my first belt, so I don't really have anything to compare it to. I did a bit of research before buying though, and I can say that this belt has excellent, well thought out construction. Price is great for the features too. I haven't gotten a chance to take it through a class yet, but so far I really like the padded grip that spans the entire inner length of the belt. I've done a few drills and the belt stays put very nicely. No discomfort after wearing it for a while either. Planning to put it through it's paces in a class the first quarter of the new year. I'll report back when I do!

Custom-X_Sponjah
2 January 2011, 20:45
It's my first belt, so I don't really have anything to compare it to. I did a bit of research before buying though, and I can say that this belt has excellent, well thought out construction. Price is great for the features too. I haven't gotten a chance to take it through a class yet, but so far I really like the padded grip that spans the entire inner length of the belt. I've done a few drills and the belt stays put very nicely. No discomfort after wearing it for a while either. Planning to put it through it's paces in a class the first quarter of the new year. I'll report back when I do!

Definitely look forward to any feedback, positive or negative.
Cant improve on products if people keep boosting our ego's... :o
And its the HSGI Sure-Grip Padded Belt. Blackstone tactical just sells it.. [BD]

CXS

anto
3 January 2011, 03:46
Whoops! Fixed it :)

Custom-X_Sponjah
26 January 2011, 14:19
It's my first belt, so I don't really have anything to compare it to. I did a bit of research before buying though, and I can say that this belt has excellent, well thought out construction. Price is great for the features too. I haven't gotten a chance to take it through a class yet, but so far I really like the padded grip that spans the entire inner length of the belt. I've done a few drills and the belt stays put very nicely. No discomfort after wearing it for a while either. Planning to put it through it's paces in a class the first quarter of the new year. I'll report back when I do!

Any new updates?

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
10 February 2011, 07:21
Now Offering COBRA Riggers Belts and they look sexy in the SGPB..

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180662_198389780172706_111845712160447_757596_5314 04_n.jpg

CXS

TehLlama
12 February 2011, 02:04
Hmm, do you think you could make that belt work with the Misty Mountain ISH Modular leg loops (climbing)? They have a fastex buckle in back, and mount to a carabiner in front, trying to think if I could run that out the 6:00 area, and run a chalk bag in the dump pouch if I could make this a ridiculously multipurpose belt.

Custom-X_Sponjah
14 February 2011, 08:36
Hmm, do you think you could make that belt work with the Misty Mountain ISH Modular leg loops (climbing)? They have a fastex buckle in back, and mount to a carabiner in front, trying to think if I could run that out the 6:00 area, and run a chalk bag in the dump pouch if I could make this a ridiculously multipurpose belt.

The voices in my head says Yes...

Legal Jargon: HSGI's Riggers Belts are not Labeled or Certified for Climbing or use as Life Saving Equipment. HSGI will not be held responsible for any injuries or death for the misuse of any of our products.

That being said, you have too look at the ratings of the materials used.

Gonna have to call to place the order..

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180739_10150092277035965_500085964_6994094_1236248 _n.jpg

CXS

anto
17 February 2011, 15:30
Any new updates?

CXS

Class is on the 28th of this month, next Sunday. I'll be sure to come back with an AAR of how the belt held up. I received in my other USGG double pistol pouch, so right now it's 4x pistol pouches, SF V70 and a kydex holster.

Custom-X_Sponjah
1 March 2011, 08:10
A little update to the Design.
We have deleted the two outside 10" strips of Hook Velcro from the inner belt sleeve.
This will allow easier removal and adjustment of the inner belt, but still have a solid fit.
User input always leads to better and more innovative products.
I look forward to hearing any feedback, positive or negative.
Because without you actually saying what you don't like, we can never fix it..

CXS

anto
1 March 2011, 11:40
Ran the belt this weekend at Falcon Security's Tactical Pistol 1 course and I'm kinda pissed..



Because I'm probably going to be spending much more at HSGI..

For the class, my kit consisted of:
HSGI Belt
$10 super ghetto homemade kydex holster held on by zip ties
Two double USGG Gen4 Pistol Pouches
SF V70

Pistol:
M&P 9mm
F/O FS, Blacked out rear stock sights
Apex RAM
Trigger job
SS Guide rod, 15lb spring
Stippled frame
Three M&P mags with Arredondo baseplates, one standard.


Belt ran absolutely flawless. No sagging, riding up, twisting, or lack of comfort at all. Hundreds of holster draws, mag draws, reholstering, running, etc. No issues whatsoever. Midway through the day, we took a lunch break and a bunch of guys took their belts off because it wasn't too comfortable for them. I didn't even notice mine on. Our class was appx. 17 shooters, 3/4 was LEO. USBP, Sheriffs & local PD mainly, a few civvies. At the end of the day, we had a shoot off which consisted of two shots at a steel plate, 6" wide, 12" tall at 25yds, reload, two more shots. I placed 2nd, but I *did* have the advantage of a modded pistol vs. their duty rigs with level three retention holsters & stock duty pistol triggers.

When I take a rifle class, my kit will consist of:

USGG Triple AR pouch
USGG Double pistol pouch
V70
EAG Dump
Holster

I don't know how much heavier this will be, but I have full confidence that it will hold up just fine. The pistol kit carries some heft already - I figure if 83 rounds total + a pistol on my waist ran well, three 30rd AR mags plus 44 pistol rounds shouldn't be a problem. This was my 2nd pistol class ever, and I can't wait to put this belt through more!

Pictures:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/a6c014a2.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/c4da6702.jpg
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http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/6af68871.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/99a88849.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/a657d8ca.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/638145ae.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/8c7f7066.jpg


THANKS HSGI!

TripleBravo
2 March 2011, 03:52
Nice look'n reload!

Stickman
27 March 2011, 22:39
More information in, and this belt is doing fantastic so far in a duty belt status.


The general feel so far is that it feels like an extension of your body, as opposed to being attached to you body.

Custom-X_Sponjah
30 March 2011, 05:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kEY5RXl11k

CXS

TripleBravo
30 March 2011, 12:36
More information in, and this belt is doing fantastic so far in a duty belt status.


The general feel so far is that it feels like an extension of your body, as opposed to being attached to you body.

Stick -- are patrol guys using this as a duty belt or swat operators?

Stickman
30 March 2011, 13:42
Stick -- are patrol guys using this as a duty belt or swat operators?

Real cops who work for a living.... not the guys with catered lunches.

TripleBravo
31 March 2011, 18:42
Real cops who work for a living.... not the guys with catered lunches.

[:D]

Stickman
1 April 2011, 01:26
[:D]


I knew you would be tracking with me.

GutWrench
3 April 2011, 23:16
Real cops who work for a living.... not the guys with catered lunches.


Impressive. Wish my dept wasn't living in the 1990's when it comes to proper gear. :(

Stickman
4 April 2011, 08:29
There should be a large update with this pretty soon, this belt is going through some intensive work in the next couple days outside of regular patrol duties, and I'll be able to get a bunch of images as well as enough info to make a solid review.

ninja2438
4 April 2011, 19:51
Looking forward to your review, Stick.

Stickman
12 April 2011, 11:15
Three days of shooting in all different positions and in inclement weather have shown this belt to be a fully functional success.


Click for full size image (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5613286487_f27b90899f_o.jpg)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5613286487_22a1cf409a.jpg

BravoHotel
13 April 2011, 09:39
Great shot Stick! I'm also looking forward the full review before I drop the coin. I have a couple of their mag holsters and love them. Quality gear.

Q for you -- if that's your setup, mind sharing a couple details about the 1911 you're running?

Custom-X_Sponjah
13 April 2011, 12:06
My personal setup..
Better pics soon..

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208471_10150158854320965_500085964_7387354_3257726 _n.jpg

CXS

BobinLaConner
13 April 2011, 13:45
Nice to see the pic of the actual set up that someone uses...Once I get my molle attachments figured out I will post a pic (I think mine is going to be heavier though). Maybe others can post with how they have theirs set up with pics.

TripleBravo
13 April 2011, 14:10
My personal setup..
Better pics soon..

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208471_10150158854320965_500085964_7387354_3257726 _n.jpg

CXS

Just out of curiosity, are you left eye dominant?

Custom-X_Sponjah
13 April 2011, 15:57
Just out of curiosity, are you left eye dominant?

Yep.
I'm Cross eye dominant..
I shoot Rifle Lefty and Pistol Righty..

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
14 April 2011, 09:56
My personal First Line..
Nothing too fancy, just the necessities...

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216834_214542208557463_111845712160447_873540_1372 410_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205511_214542348557449_111845712160447_873541_6154 664_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/206503_214542111890806_111845712160447_873539_1441 914_n.jpg

The Platform:
HSGI Sure-Grip Padded Belt (Fat Boy Size)
HSGI Cobra Riggers Belt (Fat Boy Size)
HSGI High Speed Low Drag Suspenders

Pouches From Left To Right:
3x HSGI Pistol TACO's
1x HSGI Modular Pistol Magazine Pouch (Holds Surefire G2)
1x HSGI Bleeder/Blowout Pouch
1x G-Code OSH RTI Holster Mounted on G-Code RTI MOLLE Adapter
2x HSGI TACO's

And yes, I am cross eye dominant.. (Shoot Rifle Lefty, Pistol Righty)

CXS

TripleBravo
14 April 2011, 14:39
Three days of shooting in all different positions and in inclement weather have shown this belt to be a fully functional success.


Click for full size image (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5613286487_f27b90899f_o.jpg)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5613286487_22a1cf409a.jpg

It's settled then. I'm calling to order mine today.

BravoHotel
14 April 2011, 15:13
I'm debating if I want the suspenders or not before ordering.

Anyone want to weigh in with their thoughts? This is my first belt so setting up a rig like this is new to me.

Thanks [BD]

ninja2438
14 April 2011, 22:37
I'm debating if I want the suspenders or not before ordering.

Anyone want to weigh in with their thoughts? This is my first belt so setting up a rig like this is new to me.

Thanks [BD]

BravoHotel,

I've been wearing HSGI's suspenders for several months now and absolutely love them. When I bought my first pair of suspenders, I had around 17 pounds of gear on my duty belt. I now have closer to 20 pounds. The suspenders are a life saver. My lower back no longer bothers me. I barely notice all that weight until the end of the day, when I gear down. Also, I wear a drop leg holster and a drop leg modular MOLLE panel with a double decker taco and stuffed bleeder pounch (all HSGI... yes, I know I drank the Kool-Aid, but I love this company and their products, lol). So, even with the weight of the belt, plus the weight of the two thigh rigs pulling on the belt, I am very comfortable. I've run, climbed fences, crawled in attics, etc., and the suspenders have yet to fail me. I do wear 3 belt keepers on my duty belt, and attached to my garrison belt, which help to distribute the weight of everything.

Because the HSGI suspenders do not have shoulder pads (which I prefer), I have them set so the straps come over the top of my concealable body armor, and let the armor cushion the weight. I tried suspenders with shoulder pads, but was not happy with the design. I was unable to comfortably shoulder a long gun, and was more bulky than I wanted when wearing a jacket.

Another bonus of the the suspenders is that they act as a drag handle. But, since they're mounted to your belt, there's no plate carrier riding up and choking you as your partners pull you out of harms way.

I hope this helps. Stay safe.

BravoHotel
15 April 2011, 08:17
Ninja-

Great input, thank you. Good to know about the shoulder pads however I'm a civi running 3gun and defensive drills so I think I may consider the pads to help disperse weight.

Thanks again.

m24shooter
15 April 2011, 18:11
One thing I noticed is that they aren't kidding about how thin the belt is. I probably should have ordered a smaller size. The reason I went with a larger size is that my only previous experience with anything like a war belt was a duty belt that I had that ran an ALICE type belt pad on. It required a lot of additional length. I also wanted the padded part of the HSGI belt to come fairly close to the buckles. Finally, I wanted to be able to run the belt over winter gear. HSGI calls attention to the thinness of the belt, which I didn't really appreciate until I got the belt on. It is very thing, and there was nothing like the need for extra length that my previous slapped together belt rig did. So if you are thinking like I did that because you are getting a padded belt you need to order a little extra room, don't. The belt really does have a very gel-like feel that is quite comfortable under load, and I can't believe how great it feels while keeping such a low profile.
I can't believe I waited this long to get a war belt now that I've tried one, but since I have I'm glad I went with HSGI. It easily meets their usual standard of construction and I'm going to be working it out.

Custom-X_Sponjah
16 April 2011, 07:12
M24 if you need a smaller size send it back. We will exchange it for ya..

CXS

m24shooter
16 April 2011, 09:14
Thanks Topher, but I may keep this one. I might keep it as a winter belt, but I've also got somebody who said they really liked the belt when I showed it to them and they may want it.
I'll probably just order another one, but I do appreciate the offer. The belt is great!

BravoHotel
18 April 2011, 07:32
Anto or anyone else --

Is that the khaki or the coyote brown belt? I'm thinking khaki but wanted to double check.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/a657d8ca.jpg

Custom-X_Sponjah
18 April 2011, 07:56
Anto or anyone else --

Is that the khaki or the coyote brown belt? I'm thinking khaki but wanted to double check.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/jcaldito206/Lo-Res%20FALCON%20Tac%20Pistol%20FEB/a657d8ca.jpg

That is Khaki..

CXS

BravoHotel
18 April 2011, 08:04
Thanks, Topher! Another order coming your way on payday.[:D]

Stickman
19 April 2011, 15:16
Topher,

Did you get the email I sent with pictures?

Custom-X_Sponjah
19 April 2011, 16:14
Yep, replied.
Its ours..
Did you get your package?

CXS

Stickman
19 April 2011, 19:34
Yep, replied.
Its ours..
Did you get your package?

CXS


For some reason your email never came through, I'm glad I doubled checked.

I hope to pick it up tomorrow so I can set my personal gear up before my break days are over and I return to duty.

TripleBravo
19 April 2011, 21:39
Placed my order the other day...Looking forward to finally trying it out myself.

TripleBravo
24 April 2011, 15:02
http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww189/wjt1169/HSGI/Wornwithjacket01.jpg

Custom-X_Sponjah
24 April 2011, 21:59
Those new plastic pieces on the TACO's look good in this pic.
They are a major improvement and make the TACO a no brainer for guys looking at magazine pouches.
We have taken all the feedback from the past 1.5 years and improved upon the design to bring it to this point.
I just wish there was an easier way to mount em. (We're still working on that one ;-) )

CXS

ninja2438
25 April 2011, 07:36
Hey Topher,

What do the "new plastic pieces" do? From the picture, I'm guessing they assist in inserting the magazine into the pouch, but I hate assuming stuff. Also, can a Double Decker TACO be made to hold a rifle mag and two pistol mags (preferably with the pistol mags sitting side by side)? With Stick's positive review of the belt, I'm looking at the possibility of swapping my nylon duty belt out for the HSGI padded belt. Thanks and stay safe.

Custom-X_Sponjah
25 April 2011, 10:25
Hey Topher,

What do the "new plastic pieces" do? From the picture, I'm guessing they assist in inserting the magazine into the pouch, but I hate assuming stuff. Also, can a Double Decker TACO be made to hold a rifle mag and two pistol mags (preferably with the pistol mags sitting side by side)? With Stick's positive review of the belt, I'm looking at the possibility of swapping my nylon duty belt out for the HSGI padded belt. Thanks and stay safe.

The new plastic pieces eliminate the possibility of the shock cord popping out of the top loop, they also have feed lips now which aid in insertion of magazines.
http://www.hsgi.us/prodimages/TACO4-Lw.jpg

http://www.hsgi.us/prodimages/DDT4-Lw.jpg


Plus we order thousands at a time and they are ready for assembly when they arrive.
Unlike the kydex where we had Edgeworks manufacturing cut the strips for us, then had an employee heat and bend each piece by hand.

This and the 2 new employees dedicated to TACO's has quadrupled our manufacturing capability of TACO's..
We are pushing 250+ TACO's out the door each day, and orders are still flowing in..

As far as a DDT with two PTACO's, its not possible.

CXS

BravoHotel
25 April 2011, 10:34
TripleBravo-
Nice clean shot of the Double Decker Tacos. Glad you did that because I was just about to order some from another website at a discounted price but judging by their pictures they don't have the updated "plastic pieces." Guess I'll be shelling out $6 more per pouch for these fancy little doo-dads. Topher and HSGI just lucked out! [:D]

Willing to post more pics of your belt setup? Always looking for ideas.

Thanks.

Custom-X_Sponjah
25 April 2011, 12:54
Here are a couple shots showing the different color/camo's we produce these in..
I think the lighting is kicking the Coyote Brown color a little off..
The webbing matches perfectly when in hand.. huh..

http://hsgi.us/prodimages/SGPB2-Lw.jpg

http://hsgi.us/prodimages/SGPB3-Lw.jpg

CXS

BravoHotel
25 April 2011, 14:46
Topher-

Thanks for throwing those on here. I may also suggest you guys add the larger images to your website if possible. The current thumbnails at the top of the individual item pages are rather small and difficult to see.

Custom-X_Sponjah
25 April 2011, 15:05
Topher-

Thanks for throwing those on here. I may also suggest you guys add the larger images to your website if possible. The current thumbnails at the top of the individual item pages are rather small and difficult to see.

The images are full size, but there is some Code on the pages that is preventing them from being full size.
Our web tech is working it out, but taking his sweet ass time..
If you "Right Click" then "View Image" it will pop up full size..

Thanks though.
I am currently updating a Lot of Items Pics..
All the "Gravel" background pics I have taken today or yesterday..
I have no photo skills, but someone has to do it..

CXS

BravoHotel
25 April 2011, 15:09
Awesome news. Definitely wasn't complaining just wanted to share some insight from a shopper's point of view.

Keep up the great work and make sure to save enough time to pop off some rounds too!

TripleBravo
25 April 2011, 17:13
TripleBravo-
Nice clean shot of the Double Decker Tacos. Glad you did that because I was just about to order some from another website at a discounted price but judging by their pictures they don't have the updated "plastic pieces." Guess I'll be shelling out $6 more per pouch for these fancy little doo-dads. Topher and HSGI just lucked out! [:D]

Willing to post more pics of your belt setup? Always looking for ideas.

Thanks.

I'll try to get some more shots soon...I had 10 minutes between poopy diapers and spit up cloths to get that shot...I need to find another 10 minutes somewhere[:)]

Custom-X_Sponjah
26 April 2011, 08:14
A picture of you changing a dirt diaper in full kit would be funny as hell..

CXS

TripleBravo
26 April 2011, 12:56
A picture of you changing a dirt diaper in full kit would be funny as hell..

CXS

Oh...I've got to make this happen now...great idea!

BravoHotel
26 April 2011, 13:37
A picture of you changing a dirt diaper in full kit would be funny as hell..

CXS

A dirty diaper changing war belt! HSGI just found it's next niche market.

TripleBravo
27 April 2011, 16:18
A quick photo to show the new plastic inserts...

http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww189/wjt1169/HSGI/DDTacoInsert01.jpg

BravoHotel
27 April 2011, 16:25
Definitely looking slick and improved. Thanks for taking the time to post these B3.

Careful around those DMDs and stay clean.

Stickman
2 May 2011, 16:56
I recently completed the review of this for Military Times, you can check it out at the below link.


http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2011/05/01/hsgi-war-belt-comfort-brings-old-school-back-in-style/

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/hsgi-war-belt/IMG_1657-1024-MT.jpg

TOM1911
2 May 2011, 20:28
The new plastic pieces eliminate the possibility of the shock cord popping out of the top loop, they also have feed lips now which aid in insertion of magazines.
http://www.hsgi.us/prodimages/TACO4-Lw.jpg

http://www.hsgi.us/prodimages/DDT4-Lw.jpg


Plus we order thousands at a time and they are ready for assembly when they arrive.
Unlike the kydex where we had Edgeworks manufacturing cut the strips for us, then had an employee heat and bend each piece by hand.

This and the 2 new employees dedicated to TACO's has quadrupled our manufacturing capability of TACO's..
We are pushing 250+ TACO's out the door each day, and orders are still flowing in..

As far as a DDT with two PTACO's, its not possible.

CXS

Hey Topher... Are these the new plastic liners? I knew i should have held off on my order.. These seem to address a slight reinsertion problem at speed. Is there any way to convert my existing TACO's?

TripleBravo
3 May 2011, 04:27
Nice write up, Stick!

High-Speed
3 May 2011, 15:46
Hey Topher... Are these the new plastic liners? I knew i should have held off on my order.. These seem to address a slight reinsertion problem at speed. Is there any way to convert my existing TACO's?

Tom1911,
Call the shop, we can fix you up.

Gene @ HSGI

ninja2438
3 May 2011, 19:59
Stick,

Great write up. Sorry for the topic drift, but do you know the make/model of the fixed blade knife in the picture posted here? Stay safe.

Rodman24
3 May 2011, 21:26
Stick,

Great write up. Sorry for the topic drift, but do you know the make/model of the fixed blade knife in the picture posted here? Stay safe.

Bloodbone Knives USA in Louisville, KY

I saw this on Stick's flickr account.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stickgunner/5610171483/in/photostream

DanceswithSkunks
18 May 2011, 09:56
I have a number of questions pertaining to the suspender attachment system.

1. What size are the sliders? They appear to be one inch.

2. How is the attachment system connected to the padding/duty belt? Is it sewn in? Can someone provide photos of the attachment points?

3. The rear attachment points appear to be in a good position, however the front pair looks as if they need to be moved closer to the duty belt's buckle.

Recommended improvements:

1. Use FASTEX slide lock buckles for the suspender attachmet points. ITW brand 1.5" LL Female. Dual Ladder Lock female size one and one half inch.

2. Include an attachment point in the front bottom near the duty belt's buckle for a groin armor plate sleeve/pocket.


I'm retired ARMY 27 years 1967-1994. I have worn and used in combat everything from pre ALICE frog keeper belts with the Y harness system to current issue MOLLE and plate vests. This belt system looks like a winner. All you need now is a quality suspender system.

I'm going to purchase one, attach various suspender systems and attach as many SAW pouches as I can then fill them with lead shot. I'll let you know if anything fails and how much weight was required for failure. I'll then eqip it with a standard combat loadout then go do a 20k walkabout through the mountains and swamps of North Central PA. I'll put this thing through the roughest terrain and vegatation I can find.

Custom-X_Sponjah
14 June 2011, 05:51
I have a number of questions pertaining to the suspender attachment system.

1. What size are the sliders? They appear to be one inch.

2. How is the attachment system connected to the padding/duty belt? Is it sewn in? Can someone provide photos of the attachment points?

3. The rear attachment points appear to be in a good position, however the front pair looks as if they need to be moved closer to the duty belt's buckle.

Recommended improvements:

1. Use FASTEX slide lock buckles for the suspender attachmet points. ITW brand 1.5" LL Female. Dual Ladder Lock female size one and one half inch.

2. Include an attachment point in the front bottom near the duty belt's buckle for a groin armor plate sleeve/pocket.


I'm retired ARMY 27 years 1967-1994. I have worn and used in combat everything from pre ALICE frog keeper belts with the Y harness system to current issue MOLLE and plate vests. This belt system looks like a winner. All you need now is a quality suspender system.

I'm going to purchase one, attach various suspender systems and attach as many SAW pouches as I can then fill them with lead shot. I'll let you know if anything fails and how much weight was required for failure. I'll then eqip it with a standard combat loadout then go do a 20k walkabout through the mountains and swamps of North Central PA. I'll put this thing through the roughest terrain and vegatation I can find.

1" Uni-Loops are BarTacked on to the Belt.

When worn you will see the Front Suspender attachments are in a good position.

Not sure about SRB's for suspender attachment, as the Majority of suspenders attach with 1" webbing only.

CXS

Custom-X_Sponjah
14 June 2011, 05:58
Here's some pics from a Carbine class on the 4th and 5th Where all I used was my SGPB...
Funny thing is all the Instructors had SGPB's also..

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254356_1388401487302_1750040153_654856_4581800_n.j pg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253576_1388403767359_1750040153_654862_4499540_n.j pg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250511_1388403487352_1750040153_654861_2092882_n.j pg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/248636_1388412447576_1750040153_654887_4791000_n.j pg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253841_1388417727708_1750040153_654907_6999840_n.j pg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247576_1388395167144_1750040153_654833_4370333_n.j pg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250111_1388415607655_1750040153_654900_6321534_n.j pg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247236_1388080079267_1750040153_654419_6315436_n.j pg

CXS

anto
20 July 2011, 09:39
Since I picked up a 1911 and built an AK, I'm switching up my setup from USGG pouches in favor of HSGI Tacos - planning to grab one 1x pistol and 3x rifle/pistol, so I have the option of running a pistol only class, a rifle class, or a shotgun class using shot cards. Gotta wait for payday first :)

Custom-X_Sponjah
17 October 2011, 06:01
I have a silly request..
Does anyone have a Picture of the SGPB and maybe TACO's, preferably black, on a LEO that can be used for an Article on a website?
Even if it looks like an LEO thats fine.
It can be emailed to topher@hsgi.us

Thank You!

CXS

Stickman
17 October 2011, 11:33
Topher,

If you've seen one of my images that would work let me know.

Custom-X_Sponjah
17 October 2011, 13:23
Topher,

If you've seen one of my images that would work let me know.

There are a couple of the LEO at the MD class, but the Author is looking for a TACO on it also.

Thank you though.

Triple Bravo's pic almost has what the author is looking for...

He's also looking for a pic of the Short Bus Patch in a "candid" shot on someone..

CXS

TripleBravo
17 October 2011, 15:36
Topher,

You have mail.

http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww189/wjt1169/HSGI/Warbelt-vest-01-B3-1024.jpg

Custom-X_Sponjah
17 October 2011, 15:44
FTW!

There we go!

Now all I need is a Pic of our Short Bus Door Gunner Patch on a Serviceman, or LEO while in the field. lol

CXS

tac40
19 October 2011, 13:48
Nice setup B

m24shooter
7 January 2012, 17:10
After some UPS hilarity extending back into last year, ordering a size too large, and a ton of nylon gear in my stocking I've finally got my SGPB set up.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3379.jpg

TehLlama
7 January 2012, 21:04
I've been bugging Gene for a custom one-off, I can't wait for this thing.

CLBME
8 January 2012, 08:21
Good morning M24shooter- A great looking setup. What is the item in the black sheath above the dump pouch? Probably obvious but I cannot identify it........... thanks.

m24shooter
8 January 2012, 09:02
That's actually a SOF CAT tourniquet with some shock cord holding to the PALS loops.

CLBME
8 January 2012, 09:26
Thanks m24- I recognized the one on your first aid kit but couldn't figure out the other one. Thanks for the reply!

m24shooter
8 January 2012, 11:08
No prob. I think the light bounce on the clamping bar makes it look different.

m24shooter
16 March 2012, 16:29
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/OSOE%20Stacked%20Micro%20Rig/fullrattlefront.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/OSOE%20Stacked%20Micro%20Rig/fullrattleback.jpg

neo9710
16 March 2012, 18:53
Im thinking about picking up the belt and the TACO's since I switch between .308/.556 and the Saiga 12...Still pondering...

m24shooter
16 March 2012, 19:03
The belt is great, and the Tacos work with just about everything. I like them both.

m24shooter
17 March 2012, 11:31
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3660.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3661.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3662.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3663.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3667.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3668.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3670.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3674.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3676.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3688.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/Warbelt/100_3687.jpg

tac40
9 April 2012, 14:21
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/horseplay/IMG_1373.jpg

Mine is a work in progress. Ranger green.