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The-S
15 November 2010, 12:24
Alright, some of you may know that I recently acquired an ACR. I figured I would give you all a nice review on the gun and throw out my opinions. I will update this thread with new information as I continue to test this neat little rifle.

I apologize in advance for only posting one quick pic. More to come and a full review tonight since school has been hectic lately.



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Quib
15 November 2010, 14:31
I look forward to the updates!

The-S
15 November 2010, 21:22
UPDATE


My 1st impression upon looking at the rifle is that it is one sexy piece of plastic even though the colors don't match. I then picked up the rifle and was surprised at how much it weighs. I don't mind a little weight to a weapon so this is not a big deal. The barrel is a heavy profile and the BCG is quite cumbersome. The charging handle feels great! The controls feel just like an AR. Due to the grip the selector switch does get in the way a little but it should be a quick fix. This being the first year I expect a few issues.

Take down is just as simple as any other black gun. The interchangeable barrels is super easy and a huge plus. The magwel is flared for simple reloads. All ambi controls. The trigger pull is a tad heavy but can be foxed easily (ar trigger pack!!)

First time at the range the gun ran great! Felt familiar and comfortable. Then while running a shoot house I noticed what I thought was a burst. No big deal, just my imagination. I let some friends try it out and definitely had multiple 3-5 shot bursts. I contacted Bushmaster the next day and within minutes they sent me a shipping label and she was off to be fixed. The good news is that it is just as accurate as any other AR.


Two weeks later I received the rifle back with a heavier firing pin and spring. So far it works great. But my rear mbus site broke at some point so bushmaster promptly sent me a new rear AND FRONT site.

One huge bummer is that you can't change the grip out on the lower. The good news is that multiple lowers will be offered soon. The upper has the S/N which is kind of cool also.

I have tried the AFG 1 and AFG 2. I think the 1 is a better fit and feel.

SO0O0O0O0O0O0O0O0OO0O now if they would finally release the different calibers :mad:



Questions comments concerns?


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Optimus Prime
15 November 2010, 23:17
Is that a storage compartment in the top of the stock?

The-S
15 November 2010, 23:42
It holds 123 batteries inside the folding area. The piece on top is an adjustable cheek piece.
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tac40
16 November 2010, 05:57
Keep us posted. Has BM dropped the price yet? Any projection date for the 6.8?

Quib
16 November 2010, 07:07
Thanks for the update and detailed photos! Look forward to more updates as they come in!

Optimus Prime
16 November 2010, 07:35
I hadn't ever seen the end of the folding part, so I never knew it had a compartment tucked in there. That's a great touch.

The-S
16 November 2010, 08:32
Thanks everyone!


Keep us posted. Has BM dropped the price yet? Any projection date for the 6.8?
Rumor has it that the 6.8 will be any day now. BUT I doubt it will be before the 1st of the year. The price actually was not a problem for me. I got this in a trade. :)


I hadn't ever seen the end of the folding part, so I never knew it had a compartment tucked in there. That's a great touch.
Yup, if only I used 123 batteries for something :(

Optimus Prime
16 November 2010, 08:41
Yup, if only I used 123 batteries for something :(

Toss a white light on there.

The-S
16 November 2010, 08:50
true story!

I have been debating on what to add to this, its already 6.5 lbs

AR-10
16 November 2010, 09:38
Riflegear has ACR's and SCAR's in stock. I went there two weeks ago and all of the ACR's were taken off the wall.

I asked why, and the owner informed me about the recall - same trigger issue that you were having.

Apparently Bushmaster is on the ball, they recalled every suspect rifle and they are taking care of it.

After handling both rifles, I thought the SCAR had a better balance and feel but I wasn't crazy about the reciprocating charger.

Did you look at the SCAR and compare the two? If you did, I would like to know specifically why you chose the ACR.

(Yes I am thinking about buying one or the other.)

The-S
16 November 2010, 10:35
Great question. I did look at the scar. Short answer the decision rested on the fact the ACR is made in the states. The scar felt bulky, the controls felt a little different and the gun did not feel natural. The ACR also is easier to change calibers and take apart. The non reciprocating charging handle was a huge plus! The scar doesn't have ambi controls either. Now is the scar a bad gun, NO. Like I said earlier this being the first run for the ACR I have expected little problems or issues with the unit. Hope this helps. What all did you notice when you compared the two?

http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Bushmaster-ACR-vs-FN-SCAR-1.jpg



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AR-10
16 November 2010, 12:05
Great chart!

My initial impression after holding them both - the SCAR felt more balanced but I should add that the ACR I compared it to was the "enhanced" config, which might be why it felt muzzle heavy compared to the SCAR.

Yours has a completely different handguard, so I'm assuming it's a little lighter than the enhanced model.

As for the controls, they both felt good as far as the ergonomics go but I'd have to say I preferred the grip on the ACR.

The reciprocating charging handle on the SCAR is a huge turn off so it's looking the ACR would be a better choice, for me anyway.

I'm gonna have to go hold one with a basic handguard like yours and see how it feels.

Paulo_Santos
16 November 2010, 12:07
The one thing that I like about the SCAR over the ACR is that the barrel has the windage and elevation adjustments on the barrels, so you can just swap out any barrels with minimal zero shift. Everything else, I like the ACR.

The-S
16 November 2010, 12:11
the nice thing is that I have both handguards and stocks. So my enhanced version is now a super enhanced personalized version :)

In theory the ACR should be just as easy to re zero.

AR-10
16 November 2010, 12:17
Handguard looks pretty easy, how hard is it to swap stocks?

The-S
16 November 2010, 12:19
its a matter of two pins. I will take some pics soon to show you. the same goes for the handguards. The railed one is just short.
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The-S
16 November 2010, 15:14
The pink arrows point to the pins that remove the handguard and stock.
The green arrows take down the upper from the lower.
Sorry for the noob arrows, im currently in the library without the gun.

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stifled
16 November 2010, 17:50
I went with the ACR over the SCAR as well. I like it a lot, but haven't shot it since the recall--haven't gotten around to sending it in.

The ease breaking this gun clear down is amazing. The weight is a little unfortunate, but I think it is something that may be addressed in future iterations.

I really like your pictures too. ...I need to find the thread for ACR pictures here, hm...

The-S
16 November 2010, 17:52
Thanks, I wish they were all BALLER like stick's

and lets see your ACR!

AR-10
16 November 2010, 18:21
Nice, thanks for the pics.

Do you know how much that thing weighs with the basic stock and basic handguard on it?

The-S
16 November 2010, 19:43
same as the enhanced
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Army Chief
17 November 2010, 04:19
I was somewhat surprised by the fact that BFI did the gun in a Coyote derivative, rather than the FDE we more commonly associate with Magpul. Granted, this isn't a fashion show, nor a matter of any great importance, but the Masada prototypes were nicely matched FDE pieces, and the ACR production models don't really seem to "match" anything -- including themselves.

AC

stifled
17 November 2010, 04:31
Ah, was going to post some pictures but Photobucket is doing maintenance.

Regarding the chart you posted, the SCAR doesn't have ambidextrous controls? I would have swore it did.

stifled
17 November 2010, 05:16
Photobucket is back up! Excuse the terrible lighting in some of these...

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The-S
17 November 2010, 10:47
I was somewhat surprised by the fact that BFI did the gun in a Coyote derivative, rather than the FDE we more commonly associate with Magpul. Granted, this isn't a fashion show, nor a matter of any great importance, but the Masada prototypes were nicely matched FDE pieces, and the ACR production models don't really seem to "match" anything -- including themselves.

AC
Yeah, the color is a little annoying but it looks good in person


Ah, was going to post some pictures but Photobucket is doing maintenance.

Regarding the chart you posted, the SCAR doesn't have ambidextrous controls? I would have swore it did.

you can buy ambi controls for it...

stifled
17 November 2010, 11:58
The-S,

I posted some pictures but they never showed up. I guess a mod decided to not let them through. Sorry.

2ATA
18 November 2010, 07:45
Your information on the SCAR is inaccurate. The SCAR does in fact have ambi- controls from the factory.

The-S
18 November 2010, 08:51
I did not make the chart, 'i took it from a fairly good article I read here http://www.golftoimpress.com/2010/05/bushmaster-acr-review-out-of-bounds/
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Mike
18 November 2010, 08:55
Your information on the SCAR is inaccurate. The SCAR does in fact have ambi- controls from the factory.

It does have an ambidextrous safety and magazine release.

I can't remember an ambidextrous bolt release.

So, basically the information is correct - question is if this is as relevant as it may sound.

skd_tactical
18 November 2010, 10:07
Nice write-up. I have been getting pretty excited to shoot one, but I'm just so used to my tried and true M4 that I may never switch. Sweet arrows BTW, I think I may try to talk our guys to use arrows like that on our site.
Thanks,

SOS

The-S
18 November 2010, 10:28
hey now, I worked super hard making those arrows......... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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