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John Hwang
3 March 2008, 09:47
BOBRO will be introducing a new quick release throw lever mount. It is a brand new design that is very different than what is available currently in the market place. They saw some of the flaws of the current systems and wanted to build something better. By now, youíve all seen the work of Andrew Bobro. If he canít make it better, he just doesnít make it. During dinner one evening during SHOT we were fortunate enough to see the lever in person. Without giving much detail away as patent paperwork is in the works, it is the best design weíve ever seen. Itís so simple but brilliant. The unique feature about the Quick release lever is that it fits on any size rail system milspec or not without any adjustment. Once itís on, itís on - Rock Solid.



More information to follow as are able to release it.

BOBRO
6 April 2008, 10:53
We are working on the BLAC system. What BLAC stands for will be released when our initial testing units are delivered to our input/development groups.

BOBRO produced a concept prototype BLAC, and conducted tests to determine the operational capabilities.

BOBRO has used a BLAC type system with one of our Deposition Crucible Plates (DCP) with outstanding results.

We are currently at the final stage of Phase 1.

Stickman
6 April 2008, 13:34
Thanks for keeping us updated, I look forward to seeing them.

JTrusty
6 April 2008, 15:53
Indeed. The anticipation is killing me.

John Hwang
18 April 2008, 11:58
Prototypes should hit our doors within 2 weeks

SHIHAN
19 April 2008, 00:05
I cant wait to see it. I could use a test unit to go along with the other items im testing[:D]

Stickman
19 April 2008, 09:47
Prototypes should hit our doors within 2 weeks


Outstanding, I had thought we were much farther out.

m24shooter
19 April 2008, 10:32
Looking forward to seeing more.

SuicideHz
22 April 2008, 16:02
Will it be as "FUGly" as some of these others out there?

ETA: Can't wait either.

BOBRO
6 May 2008, 15:14
Yee haw!

Just got the greenlight from the Patent Attorney-

You will be seeing it in the flesh within days.

[:D]

Stickman
6 May 2008, 21:51
Sounds like some great news.

UDT
7 May 2008, 05:01
Thaanks, for the update.

BOBRO
7 May 2008, 09:00
BLAC- BOBRO LEVER, AUTO COMPENSATION - PATENT PENDING

We wrote the desired features on the board in the prototype room (S-93) and designed a system to fulfill all the listed criteria.

1- Must be compatible with any 1913 Specification Rail, to include systems that are out of specification (within reason) and this includes Weaver rails.

2- Must be completely tool and user adjustable free. It needs to be 100% self contained and mate securely to any rail without the user having to tailor the pressure/engagement position.

3- Must lock with enough pressure to positively attach any device or optical instrument to a rail without movement, static or dynamic forces not withstanding.

4- The rail must not experience any deformation due to user error. This must include synthetic (plastic/polymer/composite) rail systems.

5- Auto Index capability. The device must also index parallel to the bore. The unit must always repeat the forward shift (recoil forces direction of influence) not only to maximize zero repeatability, but to take this step of installation out of the users initial mounting sequence. Index must be redundant.

6- Unit must not "shoot loose" due to improper mounting or a mechanical "bottoming out".

7- The system must incorprate a safety that prevents the lever from being accidentally opened. The safety must be able to be manipulated in conjunction with the lever rotation, so that only one hand is required to open it.

8- The unit will utilize constant force to ensure required pressure in all conditions. The force must be substantial to prevent any shift forward/aft left/right.

9- The pressure must be applied in a linear direction centered in the main body to prevent "cocking" of the mount.

10- It must be easy to manipulate by gloved or fatigued hands.

11- It must be extremely robust, and withstand shock and impact to the system housing.

12- There were others, but by listing them we would compromise our trade secrets.

We at BOBRO felt that the constant massive force was the secret to a truly non adjustable mount that would lock securely, and maintain zero. It would then be truly repeatable. It could not work/shoot loose.

We engineered a "Window" that would tolerate all 1913 Rails. The Weaver compatability was a bonus, after the Phase 1 Article was complete, we grabbed a Weaver rail just for laughs..........and it locked dead solid.

Once John and Stickman get their hands on it, and Stickman works his magic you will see the BLAC Lock.

We will then get feedback from our initial testers, and go from there.

Andrew Bobro- Owner, BOBRO

BOBRO
7 May 2008, 13:11
Assembly just gave me the thumbs up-

I am going spearfishing now.

My brain is friggen smoked.

Nobody call for 2 days.[:D]

Stickman
9 May 2008, 20:45
Its hard for me to get ultra excited about mounts, but I have to say that I am more than a little impressed.

Here are a few teaser pictures, and I'll get more info and pictures up later.


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/IMG_3882%201028%20WEVO%203.jpg




http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/IMG_3889%201028%20WEVO%203.jpg

jmtgsx
10 May 2008, 06:47
Any chance they'll make one for the Micro Aimpoints?

BOBRO
10 May 2008, 09:15
Any chance they'll make one for the Micro Aimpoints?

Yes.

parabellum
10 May 2008, 20:26
can't wait to see pics of the underside mounting surface and close-ups of the levers.

are these mounts only going to be bases for the CompM4 and Micro or are we going to see 30mm ring mounts too?

thanks.

Stickman
10 May 2008, 22:20
Its going to be an entire series from my understanding.

BOBRO
11 May 2008, 09:58
Its going to be an entire series from my understanding.

That is correct.

ARin
14 May 2008, 08:59
more, better pictures?

ive been a diehard LT guy since they debuted, but im always open to new/better ideas. and this seems interesting.

Stickman
14 May 2008, 09:11
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/IMG_3897%201028%20WEVO.jpg



http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/IMG_4143%201028%20WEVO.jpg

Stickman
14 May 2008, 09:17
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/IMG_4148%201028%20WEVO.jpg


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/IMG_4150%201028%20WEVO.jpg

Todd
17 May 2008, 22:08
I SO want one of those things.

You guys let me know when you have them. I would love to have one for my CompM4.

Todd

Gray
17 May 2008, 22:39
I want one for the Aimpoint T1

BOBRO
20 May 2008, 09:09
We are at the stage of design/prototype of various mounts for the BLAC system.

Any requests? The more specific the better.

SuicideHz
20 May 2008, 09:34
We are at the stage of design/prototype of various mounts for the BLAC system.

Any requests? The more specific the better.

Input for appearance and looks or for applications? I need a TA33R-8 mount...

BOBRO
20 May 2008, 10:07
Applications. You can also include preferred height, location on weapon etc.

We just put it on the list (TA33R-8).

Stickman
22 May 2008, 11:09
Every rail and receiver I've used this on has allowed for one handed install or removal. Every rail and receiver has been solid and free of movement with the Bobro mount installed, and there has been no marring of anything.

jmtgsx
22 May 2008, 13:24
We are at the stage of design/prototype of various mounts for the BLAC system.

Any requests? The more specific the better.

Offset !" flashlight mounts?

BOBRO
22 May 2008, 15:45
We were just talking about a light mount.

It is on the board.

Any particular features that you would like to see?

JTrusty
22 May 2008, 21:05
Any requests? The more specific the better.

Pretty sure its already on the whiteboard, but either way I'll throw 'em out there:

1. Cantilever Aimpoint mount ( both M3 & M4 models ).
-- Must extend the Aimpoint 1" beyond the mount base ( over the rail ).

2. 3x Magnifier mount ( both fixed & flip to side )
-- Must work identically for both left and right handed individuals.
-- Must clear a rear BUIS and cantilever mount on the upper.

3. Scope Mounts ( both standard & extended eye relief )
-- Swappable rings might be a good idea to accomodate both 30mm & 35mm optics such as IOR.

If you need any specifics regarding height, location, dimensions feel free to ask. My calipers are always within arms reach. [:D]

Paulo_Santos
23 May 2008, 15:57
EOTech QD mount. Like the GG&G ACCUCAM

Soulrack223
25 May 2008, 19:05
I would really like to see a Surefire X300 mount that would make it conveniently compatible with your verticle foregrip and not interfere with the bipod.

Stickman
25 May 2008, 19:17
EOTech QD mount. Like the GG&G ACCUCAM

I think thats a solid idea as well. The market is pretty small in the Eotech arena, both a riser, and non-riser version would probably be of interest to people.

BOBRO
26 May 2008, 08:37
This is great input.

We are making sub lists for each interface.

BOBRO
25 June 2008, 07:47
We have been shipping units for our Tier 1 Evaluation.

You will be seeing Evaluation reports from numerous sources.

We are developing the BLAC with maximum input from established and highly experienced users. We have been submitting units to Civilians, Law Enforcement, and top of the foodchain Military.

Stickman
25 June 2008, 11:11
Short of abusing the heck of of the Aimpoint Comp M4, there isn't much else to test on this end. It works over and over and over, and it doesn't matter what rail its put on.

JTrusty
25 June 2008, 18:32
It works over and over and over, and it doesn't matter what rail its put on.

Couldn't agree more.

I ran the prototype hard. Extremely hard and got nothing but consistent results.

I believe my exacts words when describing my first session out with it were
"It was exceptionally boring". [:D]

I removed and replaced it more times than I care to count. Each time I removed
and replaced it with one handed operation with zero regard for re-indexing it to
a given t-slot. Each time to results were the same. It retained zero - period.

My initial results were so expected that the entire session was redundant to
the point of boredom. Which of course is a good thing and something that
everyone should expect from a quality optic mount.

I am anxious to receive my production mount to expand my testing to include
exposing the lever mechanism to dust & sand as well as to determine if the
throw lever orientation / placement will effect performance when worn over
full kit.

Pictures and a full writeup to follow.

Todd
25 June 2008, 21:43
Who do I need to suckle to get one of these? :P

Todd

gotm4
1 July 2008, 04:02
I got mine installed on my Colt, it's a damn ingenious design!

No manual adjustment needed, I've tried it on 6 different ARs and it's locks down solidly on all of them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Bobro/Bobro2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Bobro/Bobro1.jpg

JTrusty
6 July 2008, 15:53
Image 1: Bobro Aimpoint CompM4 BLAC Mount Installed

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/bobro/1.jpg

Image 2: Quick Release lever after 500 compression / decompression cycles

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/bobro/2.jpg

Image 3: Detail image of the BLAC underside

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/bobro/3.jpg

Image 4: Another detail image of the BLAC underside

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/bobro/4.jpg

UDT
7 July 2008, 06:32
Thanks, for the pics. Looks nice.

BOBRO
8 July 2008, 07:47
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/orbob/blacmachining001.jpg

This is a production run of BLAC Main Bodies, we are making various sizes to account for different setups. The bases are modular.


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/orbob/blacmachining002.jpg

Beach sand function test.

Stickman
8 July 2008, 08:44
I ran another training day with it yesterday, nothing exciting, it came on and off, repeated zero, over and over....

JTrusty
13 July 2008, 14:13
Since the internals are a bit more complex than a clamp or cam, it was determined early
on that real world dust, dirt, sand exposure was in order. To that end, I spent a weekend
abusing the Bobro Aimpoint CompM4 mount at my favorite 120 acre getaway. Testing
included everyday as well as worst case scenario exposure to mother nature. Although my
primary focus was the operational capabilities of the throw lever when inundated with
sand, I also spent considerable time running drills to determine if the lever would become
a snag point when geared up.

Image 1: My loadout

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/sand/1.jpg


TAG Multicam Plate Carrier
2 x EMDOM Multicam 6o4 Pistol Pouches
4 x EMDOM Multicam double M4 Pouches
1 x TAG Multicam Strobe Pouch
GEAR SECTOR GS-2P Dark Earth sling
DD-15 Carbine equipped with Aimpoint CompM4 in Bobro BLAC mount


Image 2: Lever side of the mount after sand compaction.

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/sand/3.jpg

Image 3: Underside after sand compaction.

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/sand/4.jpg


All internals and all moving components have been thoroughly packed with sand.
Obviously this is the worst case scenario and not likely to occur naturally. However, I
felt it necessary to perform this test to determine if complete compaction would be the
failure point. It wasn't. [:)]


Image 4: Mount re-installed after sand compaction.

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/sand/5.jpg


There was so much sand on the bottom side of the mount that it wouldn't even consider
engaging the rail. However, a single, brisk smack on the palm of my hand cleared the rail
channel enabling the mount to seat on the upper. Even with the internals completely
packed with sand, the mount clamped shut effortlessly.


Image 5: Snag Testing

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/sand/6.jpg


Yours truly. [:D]

I apologize for the lack of action photos or video footage, but I was on my own with
nothing more than a tripod, camera and internal timer. Not exactly ideal for catching
motion. That said, I ran numerous drills, even configured the mount with the lever
inboard and facing forward as an intentional snag point. Short of stuffing the sling
under the lever on purpose, I couldn't get the mount to hang up on any of my gear.

Custom-X_Sponjah
10 August 2008, 14:04
I spoke with Jason this weekend on the phone and could hear the excitement in his voice about this mounting system. I look forward to snatching one up for the T-1 I should have shortly, and will post my results. Maybe one low enough to co-witness on my AK W/Ultimak. :P

My EoTech is hoping to hop off the LT base its on also..

CXS

BOBRO
13 August 2008, 07:56
We are making super low mounts for shotguns, AK's etc. We also just got some user input for the MP5 family too.


Andrew Bobro-

JTrusty
22 August 2008, 17:12
Bobro 30mm Cantilever mount :P

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/01.jpg

JTrusty
23 August 2008, 14:52
This is the slickest set of rings I have ever seen.

Image 1: Disassembled ring and base. Note how the top ring half utilizes fixed studs similar to a connecting rod in an engine.

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/04.jpg

Image 2: Top ring inserted in lower ring.

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/05.jpg

Image 3: Insert and tighten 12pt retaining nuts.

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/06.jpg

Image 4: Underside of assembled rings.

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/07.jpg

Image 5: Top side of assembled rings. Note how clean the top ring half is. No recesses to trap water, dirt etc. Just clean lines :P

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/08.jpg

Image 6: Optic installed and mounted on weapon. [:D]

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/09.jpg

JTrusty
24 August 2008, 12:47
I found an excellent and quite unexpected use for the low profile mount. [:D]

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/10.jpg

Here's a second image

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/11.jpg

BOBRO
14 September 2008, 10:20
We are getting flooded with T1-Micro requests, so I am working weekends to get the interface going.

I have quite a few design options, and as soon as one wins out, I will get a machine going in the prototype room (S-93).

I stated in an e-mail request that my timeline was 4-5 weeks, now I have to put my money where my mouth is...............

Andrew Bobro-

voodoochild
15 September 2008, 02:05
ACOG Mounts Please!!

IroquoisSnakePlissken
15 September 2008, 16:57
A double-stack light mount. But wait, there's more:

A universal mounting system where the operator can mount a SF G2 in the bottom of the stack, swap it out for a light with a different diameter, while having a laser mounted on the top of the stack. The ability to accomodate different diameter lights/lasers would probably be a big step forward in this department, as it could truly be a do-it-all mount, and operators would be able to work with different configurations painlessly, without having to access different mounts. As well, a design like this could provide a contingency in the event the mounted light fails, and a backup of a different diameter was available.

Even beyond JV-league, the pros have to procure certain items out-of-pocket, thusly negating any type of "standard". If one dude in a group has weaponlight X, while another has weaponlight Y, it's irrelevant since a mount built to the above idea could handle any of the tactical lights on the market.

The more I think about what I've just suggested, the more I'm seeing what a monumental pain in the ass that would be from a design standpoint, but Andrew asked for ideas...

Hell, this might be a sucky idea, but I'm throwin' my two cents in. It would literally kick the shit out of the competition's double-stack mounts if it could be pulled off.

BOBRO
16 September 2008, 09:56
I had to read it a few times, but I see where you are going here.

If anything, this idea really shows that we need to keep the modularity of the system as a design priority.

Great input.

Andrew Bobro-

BOBRO
16 September 2008, 10:12
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/orbob/BLACprototype.jpg

The hard work is done. This was the first BLAC prototype.

It was made about 2 or 3 years ago, I was in the shop late when I thought of it, so I didn't fire up the CNC's and just started cutting and sanding and drilling holes into scrap aluminum and brass.

I ended up putting it in the prototype pile, and waiting fot it's number to come up (we build a lot of different things here).

Anyway, what I am trying to show here, is that you don't need fancy machines and big bucks to make your ideas come to life.

JTrusty
16 September 2008, 15:59
:P

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/14.jpg

voodoochild
21 September 2008, 08:28
ACOG Mounts...

IroquoisSnakePlissken
21 September 2008, 09:14
Just ordered the 180 Friday morning...

Stickman
25 September 2008, 20:59
Just ordered the 180 Friday morning...



Let me know when you get it, and what you think.

Lancelot
28 September 2008, 09:07
John got my agency an M4 mount to test. I was outsmarted by my agency who had issued out all the M4's and left me nothing to mount on it.....yet.

But the short version is this.

The mount has dropped on five or more different kinds of rails now. It drops right on and the lever snaps shut. There is no movement front to back or side to side. The mount is solid and stable. It does not move. It does not rattle, it just melds to the rail. I have put it on uppers, two piece rail systems, free float systems, and carry handle mounts. It fits each and every rail.

The thing feels solid in your hand, and gives you the impression that it is solid and really robust. The "heft" that it has speaks volumes to my soul. Its made out of good stuff not chicom pot metal crap. The fit and finish of the components are excellent. The edges are all well treated, and it looks great.

So, if what sets this mount apart is the fact that it will self-adjust to any rail, so far it has passed the test with flying colors. Hopefully we'll get to stick an optic in it this week and try it out.

I'm not brand loyal. I'm not a brand fan. I like what works. So far I'm very happy.

BOBRO
6 October 2008, 13:35
Thank you for taking the time to evaluate our mount, Lancelot.

We are currently machining our precision optic setups, and working on the T1 mount. We are going to blend in the T1, and follow the great lines that it has. We are going make the interface with an undercut, so that the T1's tiny size is highlighted and not "drowned" out.

Lancelot
11 October 2008, 19:58
We're wringing out the canilever 180 now.

The lever is foolproof and does what we need it to do.

The mount is very attractive. And so far has proved to be reliable. We have moved it around on several rifles. We sight the thing in, shoot a few rounds and take it off. We then shoot a few rounds through the gun and then replace the mount. So far the mount has maintained zero after remount. It is surprising how solid the mounts are regardless of how many times we move them off and on.

I have to say that I really like the way the rings go together. The way the screws/nuts are engineered is quite clever.

We'll continue to run these and see how they do. And at the same time, we'll anxiously see wait and see what else these levers show up on.

BOBRO
15 October 2008, 11:39
Some quick updates-

Finally have a machine open in the proto room (S93) and we are cutting the interface for T1 mounts.

We are doing the transition operations from B01 bases to Bipod Gen. 2 Mk.2 BLAC interface, we have all the tools loaded for B01 bases, so it saves us some time.

We are running a large quantity of 1 inch diameter rings for our up and coming precision optic mount setups.

Eotech and ACOG mounts are coming-just got to get some machines open!

BOBRO
19 October 2008, 11:17
We just finished machining the T1-Micro sub-base interface. We wanted a clean transitition from mount to body, utilizing the T1's nice lines.

We just started messing with angle and radius values until it looked right.

We will start machining (production steps) this week, so the T1 mount should be ready very soon.

We got a lot of requests for this one, so it got bumped up in the order.

Stickman
19 October 2008, 12:50
I can't wait to see what it looks like, the T-1 should be a popular model.

Schwome
30 October 2008, 18:52
I don't know if this has been answered yet or not, but I just noticed rainier was selling a package deal for the aimpoints with the bobro mounts. I want the ml3 & I was wondering if the rubber dust cover will fit over the mounts ok, or if the mount is to big. If this is the case I will settle for the 4moa and go with the ml2

JTrusty
31 October 2008, 07:34
I was wondering if the rubber dust cover will fit over the mounts ok

Yes.

I am running the CompM3 2 MOA in the 180 mount and the fit is perfect.

Schwome
31 October 2008, 08:07
Yes.

I am running the CompM3 2 MOA in the 180 mount and the fit is perfect.

Thanks JTrusty, that helps me out alot. I think I now have a good idea on what I want my build to be

BOBRO
19 November 2008, 07:35
More BLAC products inbound............................

JTrusty
20 November 2008, 15:01
More BLAC products inbound............................

You weren't joking! [wow]

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/bipod/01.jpg

Sorry for the lousy pic, its the best I could do now that the sun has set. :P

TOM1911
20 November 2008, 19:23
Just awaiting the word to put in my order for the M4 mount[:D]

Stickman
20 November 2008, 22:19
The bipod is the lowest profile unit I think I've seen.

Very nice.


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/_BP_7578%201028%20Stick.jpg

BOBRO
21 November 2008, 11:11
Precision Optic Mounts- Series 200 and 201 are out of the machines.

Mounts use a B03 Base, 200 or 201 Sub base, and 30mm/25.4mm/35mm rings etc.




More options to come.

IroquoisSnakePlissken
23 November 2008, 18:22
3X Magnifier Mount.
Trijicon Reflex Mount

...please!

BOBRO
25 November 2008, 07:30
Right now, we are machining different sub-bases for the T1 Mount.

This particular mount has special requirements-

caporider
25 November 2008, 08:26
Precision Optic Mounts- Series 200 and 201 are out of the machines.

Mounts use a B03 Base, 200 or 201 Sub base, and 30mm/25.4mm/35mm rings etc.




More options to come.

Pics please! I'm very interested in having a BLAC option for mounting my IOR scope with its 35mm tube.

BOBRO
3 December 2008, 14:51
Ok- Just got our first run Precision Optics Series 200/201 out of laser marking-


What we have that is not already spoken for goes to our Master Distributor www.rainierarms.com once we start shipping- Check with your Dealers, we won't have them on our site until our Dealers get the goods first.

We are doing final ops on 1" rings right now, and have 35mm rings waiting to get cut starting tomorrow. We have plenty of 30mm rings.

The system is 100% modular, so all you have to do is swap rings if you run a different diameter.

Wait for a real photograph[:D]

Stickman
3 December 2008, 17:08
Another bipod picture while we wait for even newer cool stuff .....



http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/_BP_7581%201028%20Stick.jpg

Stickman
5 December 2008, 16:37
Andrew,

I'll be brief as I'm supposed to be heading out the door, but I'm impressed.


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/BoBro/0O2P8339-A-1028-WEVO-web.jpg

Lancelot
6 December 2008, 08:30
Amazing. Great pictures. But I'm sure they don"t do the stuff justice.

JTrusty
10 December 2008, 16:49
Impressed indeed. :P

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/16.jpg

JTrusty
10 December 2008, 17:22
http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/17.jpg

m24shooter
17 December 2008, 15:58
Can we get a few more pics of the bipod? The base in particular. Like to see what changed.

JTrusty
17 December 2008, 16:07
Can we get a few more pics of the bipod? The base in particular. Like to see what changed.

I tried taking pictures earlier this week and I kid not, my autofocus FROZE on my 1K camera. It was -7 degrees. Next pseudo warm day, I plan to take more bipod and scope mount pictures.

caporider
18 December 2008, 08:06
Boy those rings are close together... I'm going to bet quite a few of the bigger scopes (e.g USO illum, IOR 3-18x42) are not going to fit in there...

JTrusty
18 December 2008, 08:52
Boy those rings are close together... I'm going to bet quite a few of the bigger scopes (e.g USO illum, IOR 3-18x42) are not going to fit in there...

There are two models, the 200 and 201. Mine has the rings close together, the
other model has the rear ring situated further back for scopes with a large
turret block. Although my IOR fits, I will be switching it out for the other model
once it arrives. The one currently on my rifle was intended for scopes like the
Short Dot.

[:)]

caporider
18 December 2008, 12:14
There are two models, the 200 and 201. Mine has the rings close together, the
other model has the rear ring situated further back for scopes with a large
turret block. Although my IOR fits, I will be switching it out for the other model
once it arrives. The one currently on my rifle was intended for scopes like the
Short Dot.

[:)]

Great! Can't wait to see your pics of the other model.

NickDrak
19 December 2008, 01:16
Anything on the T-1 mounts yet?

BOBRO
19 December 2008, 07:32
We are working on them, but we have developmental requests on the Precision Optic lineup using the systems modularity.

We are going to get a machine open in the prototype room very soon.

Malleus Dei
23 December 2008, 20:28
There are two models, the 200 and 201. Mine has the rings close together, the
other model has the rear ring situated further back for scopes with a large
turret block. Although my IOR fits, I will be switching it out for the other model
once it arrives. The one currently on my rifle was intended for scopes like the
Short Dot.

[:)]

Is the 200 model the one that has been posted? Second question, when will these be available for us paper hole punchers to purchase.

Nice!

JTrusty
24 December 2008, 13:38
Is the 200 model the one that has been posted?

Negative. I should have been more specific in my response. The one I posted is the 201 model. The 200 will have the larger spacing between the rings.

Regarding availability, I would recommend contacting Andrew direct.

Ryo
31 December 2008, 20:50
So you're making my bobro gen 2 obsolete?
So it's now a quick release lever?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn14/Ryo_Ohki2/IMG_1931copy.jpg

Ryo
31 December 2008, 20:56
Oh wow.. nice scope mount? Does it come in 1" rings?

Well wish I saw this earlier.. just bought a LaRue LT-104 since I didn't know about this lever version. Prefer single lever, but oh well.

Paulo_Santos
31 December 2008, 21:32
The Bobro Bipod is a great bipod that will be even better with the QD Mount. The one thing that I would like to see different on the Bipod is leg notches like on the Harris. The QD mount, along with the leg notches would put the Bobro Bipod far ahead of any other bipod on the market.

Stickman
31 December 2008, 21:37
Ryu,

Good looking picture, you should have IM'd me before you got the mount. [:)]

Ryo
31 December 2008, 22:14
Thanks Stickman,
That means a lot since I am inspire by you to take great pictures.

I need to take a close up picture of the lower.. it's the Pirate lower. [:D]

Stickman
1 January 2009, 09:52
Thanks Stickman,

I need to take a close up picture of the lower.. it's the Pirate lower. [:D]


"Dead men tell no tales" [:D]


I replied to your IM, sorry for the confusion. [BD]

Spectre1
21 January 2009, 14:02
We are working on them, but we have developmental requests on the Precision Optic lineup using the systems modularity.

We are going to get a machine open in the prototype room very soon.


Any updates? I'm particularly interested in the larger version of this mount. I missed some if this info, I'm sure, but are these for 30mm or 1"? Center of scope above Flattop in inches? Price and availability?

I am specifically looking to mount a Leupold VX-III 4.5-14 x 40 on an AR, as well as a VX-III 6.5-20 x 40 on another AR. Will these mounts be compatible? ETA: Both are the LR version with 30mm tubes.

Any "from the rear" shots of this mount in place so we can see width/protrusion of mount/lever?

Thanks!

Uglyduck
7 February 2009, 09:32
When is the scope mount supposed to be released?

Ryo
7 February 2009, 10:23
I thought I saw the 30mm on Rainier Arms website.

John Hwang
7 February 2009, 15:24
They aren't on the website as we only have a small shipment of 30MM & 1" rings. Once we get enough in, we'll put it up on the website. In the mean while, you can call in and order one.

Ryo
8 February 2009, 00:07
You have 1"? Didn't know it was made in 1". Cool

Lionheart
13 February 2009, 10:27
I looked around a little and didn't really find an answer to this, maybe someone could point me in the right direction, but could I get an explanation or description as to the +/- of the BOBRO product vs. ADM and Larue? Seems like everyone's touting a return-to-zero throw lever mount and I haven't seen one side or another distinguish itself. Thank you.

Stickman
13 February 2009, 12:51
You have 1"? Didn't know it was made in 1". Cool



I recently received the one inch mount, and just got back my Trijicon Accupoint, so I can throw them together and start playing around with the combo.

I tend to lend out weapons and equipment, so sometimes my lend/ lease program keeps me a little behind.

Stickman
13 February 2009, 12:52
I looked around a little and didn't really find an answer to this, maybe someone could point me in the right direction, but could I get an explanation or description as to the +/- of the BOBRO product vs. ADM and Larue? Seems like everyone's touting a return-to-zero throw lever mount and I haven't seen one side or another distinguish itself. Thank you.



Have you read the comments from Bobro in the first part of this thread? I thought there was some pretty good info there.

Lionheart
13 February 2009, 13:20
Have you read the comments from Bobro in the first part of this thread? I thought there was some pretty good info there.

I did, and the BOBRO product sounds like a terrific product, and as it is field tested in the real world over time I hope it meets all of BOBRO's required standards. Lot of good stuff there. [:D]

But I hear a lot of the same language regarding Larue products, as well as a LOT of field testing that seems to back up their arguments for return-to-zero, doesn't deform the rail system, easy QD capability, one handed operation, (essentially - IMO) tool-less installation, etc. The ADM product I'm not as sure about, since it is relatively new to the market and to me.

So, I guess the biggest thing I'm trying to discover and distinguish (between the brands) is which is the best solution for my needs, the most important of those needs being longevity, robustness, and consistancy in zero. All the other QD-toolless installation-won't hurt the rail even during operator installtion error-stuff is really a bonus to me. But I don't expect someone to drop the answers in my lap, I'll snoop around here and elsewhere and see if there are any good reviews/opinions out there. [:)] And great pics as always sir!

Stickman
13 February 2009, 14:15
Big difference between tool less installation, and tool less adjustment. Any QD mount should have tool free installation, tool free adjustment is another story, though how much of an issue that is may or may not be important to you. Along the same lines, do you care of the mount cams directly against the rail or upper?

Most of the QD mounts on the market will hold zero very well when removed and installed. They should as holding tolerances isn't quite the tasking it was 20 years ago.

Bobro is the only mount I'm aware of that self adjusts, negating any need for user input on rails that are +/-.



Overall most people won't QD their mounts enough to see any issues regardless of what they get.

Lionheart
13 February 2009, 14:41
You know, thats a good point that maybe I didn't fully understand until you said that. This point -

2- Must be completely tool and user adjustable free. It needs to be 100% self contained and mate securely to any rail without the user having to tailor the pressure/engagement position.

Am I right in assuming that this (BOBRO) is the only QD mount out there that can claim this feature? If true, then its worth its weight in gold is you run several guns, all with different upper recievers, rails, etc.

Stickman
13 February 2009, 15:54
You know, thats a good point that maybe I didn't fully understand until you said that. This point -

2- Must be completely tool and user adjustable free. It needs to be 100% self contained and mate securely to any rail without the user having to tailor the pressure/engagement position.

Am I right in assuming that this (BOBRO) is the only QD mount out there that can claim this feature? If true, then its worth its weight in gold is you run several guns, all with different upper recievers, rails, etc.



I am unaware of any other mount that does this, and I think it does make it stand out.

Ryo
13 February 2009, 16:16
That's a pretty cool feature, but doubt I would use it much since I'll be popping the mount on and off the same rifle. No need to readjust for the same rail. Switching the mount to different guns doesn't make sense since you'll have to rezero every time.

Now if they came up with a way to make the mount adjust the zero with accurate precision so you can just have to readjust the mount to the known good zeroed #.. that would be cool.

Hozen
26 February 2009, 07:34
So, does anyone know when the rifle scope mounts will be available? I didn't read every page, so maybe it was already mentioned...

Uglyduck
26 February 2009, 07:43
They aren't on the website as we only have a small shipment of 30MM & 1" rings. Once we get enough in, we'll put it up on the website. In the mean while, you can call in and order one. page 7

Uglyduck
16 April 2009, 20:38
Its been a couple of months, anything new with this?

Gamma
29 May 2009, 14:59
And another month and a half... hoping for more info on extended scope mounts. Also, would it be possible with the modular construction to assemble the mounts with the lever on the opposite side?

JTrusty
29 May 2009, 18:21
Also, would it be possible with the modular construction to assemble the mounts with the lever on the opposite side?

Correct.

The lever can be place on either side. Furthermore, it can be configured to face forward or rearward on either side.

[:)]

Gamma
29 May 2009, 19:09
Excellent[:D]

John Hwang
30 May 2009, 09:07
I spoke with Andrew and he's overwhelmed with military orders so most commercial production has come to a halt. I get small boxes of parts from time to time but not nearly enough on scope mounts or bipods. Sometimes that's the problem with making a superior piece of gear. Everybody wants it all at the same time. Ask Noveske....

Belloc
21 July 2009, 19:13
Two questions:
1. Will the Bobro mount work with the Aimpoint CompM4s?
2. Any news on the T1 mount?
Thanks.

PTM76
10 August 2009, 17:33
Two questions:
1. Will the Bobro mount work with the Aimpoint CompM4s?
2. Any news on the T1 mount?
Thanks.
I am curious about the T1 mount as well.

jeeves915
6 September 2009, 10:53
I'm wanting a T1 mount as well!

DMR
8 September 2009, 02:25
Bobro Mounts are not availible localy so it's hard for me to get my hands on one. I'm looking for a mount to put a Nightforce in on top of a Noveske SPR VIS upper. I'm interested in the BOBRO Precision Optic Mount but it seems like one locking point is less then desired for a precision optic.

Any can help me out?

Stickman
8 September 2009, 17:23
Bobro Mounts are not availible localy so it's hard for me to get my hands on one. I'm looking for a mount to put a Nightforce in on top of a Noveske SPR VIS upper. I'm interested in the BOBRO Precision Optic Mount but it seems like one locking point is less then desired for a precision optic.

Any can help me out?


The Bobro is rock solid, I would have no concerns with it in a precision role.

DMR
8 September 2009, 18:37
Thanks for the reply Stickman. How would you compare it to a LaRue or ADM?

blkexp98
15 September 2009, 18:25
What are the chances of getting a 30mm to 1" adaptor for the Bobro scope mount? I have a 1" scope but may move onto a 30mm at some point. Im thinking hard about the scope mount vs other options and it looks like the way to go.

JTrusty
16 September 2009, 14:25
:P

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/acog/03.jpg

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/bobro/acog/02.jpg

Belloc
28 September 2009, 08:57
Has anyone heard anything new, anything at all, about a Bobro T1 mount?
Thanks.

bigcoastie
28 September 2009, 09:32
Just got my first Bobro mount last week. The 30mm extended and I have to say I'm impressed now they need to release a T-1 and an offset flashlight mount.