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Vern1968
13 February 2013, 11:03
Someone about a week ago mentioned something about a general discussion board and being glad there wasn't one on this site. With the type of interesting people on this site I think it might be a good idea to get more people to visit more often. I would be curious about what some of the people do in there daily lives, ie. where do you go shooting, types of vehicles, general news opinions, occupations, etc. There are so few new threads that I only visit this site every other day. It may even bring more revenue to the businesses paying for advertising here. I love this site, but it can get a bit stuffy in here sometimes. Not meant to insult.

Aragorn
13 February 2013, 11:55
I think a general discussion board as you mentioned would largely detract from the overall theme of this site. My daily routine, where I go shooting, what I drive, and what I do for a living is all irrelevant here as this is largely a technical and review based site. I doubt many members here would be keen on the idea of posting their own personal info anyways.

I'm not opposed to friendly conversation, but the fact that my car needed a new battery the other day and Monday we went to the zoo is all unnecessary information on WEVO, and in my mind would be spam. One of the best things about this place is that is IS so focused.

Paulo_Santos
13 February 2013, 13:30
It is one thing that we keep on revisiting. If we ever do have one, it won't have any political posts, that's the only way I'll go for it.

FortTom
13 February 2013, 14:38
It is one thing that we keep on revisiting. If we ever do have one, it won't have any political posts, that's the only way I'll go for it.
I know my opinion isn't worth much, but it seems that these kinds of threads always go south, no matter how bening they may start out as. E.g., I belong to a couple of backpacking forums. (I'm an avid backpacker). They are a diverse crowd with a very good mix of "granola head vegan ex hippies". Someone asks about popping a squirell or rabbit on a long trip to supplement their freeze dried food with fresh meat. Boom! The poor slug gets jumped on by 40 people for hunting "innocent" game, and another 40 will rant about gun control. And it's not just guns, it's everything. I know this is a gun site, and the gun subjects wouldn't be a problem, but those "free thought" threads seem to always generate problems. Seems now days that you can't say anything, literally, without someone being "offended" or their feelings hurt. Yeah I know it's B.S., but that's how it goes. And the mods have to stay on top of them all of the time. So besides politics and religion, people will still find something to fight about.

All of that said, I guess it's up to the site owner, admin's and mods, to do what ever will be done, but I kind of like the laid back, no hassle, content rich format of this site. So, my unsolicited .02's worth.

FT

Vern1968
13 February 2013, 14:40
That would be great. I'm not looking for chili recipes or talking about religion. I would just like to spend more time on this blog besides clicking on "What's New" and it be a bit lacking in new threads. Seeing we all are into weapons related subjects I believe most of the general discussion would revolve around weapons and equipment. Thanks for the response.

Paulo_Santos
13 February 2013, 15:46
Actually your opinions do matter. And if we ever do open up a GD section, we can discuss whatever we want, even chilly recipes. LOL.

csmith
13 February 2013, 17:07
One thing I've noticed about 90% of the forums with general discussion is this. They always devolve into the place that has established membership sniping newer members with low post counts. The search function mafia's abound on those places. When 3/4's of the post on the site don't pertain to the overall purpose, it's not a surprise relevant information gets buried deep, deep down.

Hatter
13 February 2013, 18:51
I'm going to say this and I'm going to say it smiling so I hope nobody takes it the wrong way.

I like you guys, I really do. But I don't come here to get to know you. I visit WeaponEvolution to learn about weapons, processes, training and gun porn (let's be honest). I don't want to see pictures of your food, read your jokes, or hear about the fat guy at Walmart that pissed you off.

Like I said, don't take it the wrong way, you guys are great. I really love that this is a no-nonsense atmosphere dedicated to solid technical information. So my vote is to keep it simple and not clutter it up with a ton of random facts of the day.

zero7one
13 February 2013, 20:45
The WEVO Staff has thrown the idea around like Paulo said, however we do not want to attract the wrong kind of attention to this forum. I completely understand the desire for it, and it is not entirely out of the question, but it would have to be something that would be closely monitored.

If we were to open a General Discussion thread, what would be some of the sub-topics that you would like to see? As Paulo said, we would want to keep Politics out of it (to a degree) but I would think that Politics/Legislation as related to firearms ownership would be on the better side as it may invoke some quality discussions. Religion, "Look at my car", "My wife is hotter than your wife", "Look at how much weight I lost", and similar posts are not what this forum is for and would not be allowed. However, it wouldn't be out of place to post things like upcoming gun related events/competitions/shows, etc as not to detract from the overall theme of WEVO.

Go ahead and post what ideas for sub-threads that you would like to see and we may revisit the idea.

Stickman
13 February 2013, 22:32
I know my opinion isn't worth much
FT


I can't say what it is worth around your house, but here it carries weight. We are always interested in what people have to say, and to be honest, the more a person posts, the more we know them and the more weight their thoughts carry.

Notice it isn't about total post count, it is about knowing the people from their posts.

Stickman
13 February 2013, 22:34
Hatter,

That certainly isn't hurting any feelings here. There are some other boards I'm on where people have 15 or 20K posts, but none of them are in the weapon sections. I just don't get that concept, I come to a firearm board for firearms.

Stickman
13 February 2013, 22:34
One thing I've noticed about 90% of the forums with general discussion is this. They always devolve into the place that has established membership sniping newer members with low post counts. The search function mafia's abound on those places. When 3/4's of the post on the site don't pertain to the overall purpose, it's not a surprise relevant information gets buried deep, deep down.


Yes, yes, and yes.

Stickman
13 February 2013, 22:36
Someone about a week ago mentioned something about a general discussion board and being glad there wasn't one on this site. With the type of interesting people on this site I think it might be a good idea to get more people to visit more often. I would be curious about what some of the people do in there daily lives, ie. where do you go shooting, types of vehicles, general news opinions, occupations, etc. There are so few new threads that I only visit this site every other day. It may even bring more revenue to the businesses paying for advertising here. I love this site, but it can get a bit stuffy in here sometimes. Not meant to insult.


No insult taken at all. I would challenge people to get more involved by writing their own reviews. A review doesn't need to be like the staff does, and it certainly doesn't have to have flashy pictures or video. An honest review of your thoughts on something goes a long way, even if it is brief as others can always add their thoughts as well.

FortTom
14 February 2013, 00:14
deleted - Pointless, accidently, but still pointless.[crazy],

FT

zero7one
14 February 2013, 00:49
FT, we have a Member Submitted Reviews Section that has turned out very well.

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FortTom
14 February 2013, 01:11
Let me go take the tin foil off of my head, maybe I can think better....of course you do, don't know what I was thinking when I posted that...
Sorry,
FT

zero7one
14 February 2013, 09:40
Let me go take the tin foil off of my head, maybe I can think better....of course you do, don't know what I was thinking when I posted that...
Sorry,
FT

LOL...no worries...we all have those days. [BD]

Creeky73
14 February 2013, 16:29
I would vote to keep the forum free of general discussion. It would probably be fine, but I don't think it would really add anything to the mix that isn't already covered under the other headings, and I believe that keeping the discussions strictly to weapons and related subjects keeps the drama down.

Let me mention, one of the things I also like about this forum is that it doesn't appear to have sold its soul to advertisers and the media. Yes, I see all the links to other sites, but I can think of one forum whose main page is nothing but a promo for one particular guy. Not to slight that person or any of his activities or products, but if I want to see or buy it, I know of lots of places to go. I don't need to be assaulted by it every time I want to look at new posts on a gun forum. Things are kept pretty clean over here.

Of course, as I say that, the Admin's are probably doing the last coding on the "Weaponevolution.com! Brought to you by Travis Haley and Chris Costa!" main page, lol.

Jerry R
28 February 2013, 13:45
Gentlemen, I enjoy some of the other forums for their "banter". I enjoy this forum for the information. This site is run by professionals - high speed, low drag. I like that a lot !

As we have come to find out, "Change" is not always for the good.

IMHO - this ain't broke, and don't need fixin' (but if you decide to "fix" it - I will hang around [BD] )

zero7one
28 February 2013, 14:09
Thank you Jerry. We are talking about this behind the scenes right now, but there will be restrictions in place if it goes live.

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Stickman
4 March 2013, 13:30
GENERAL DISCUSSION SECTION IS NOW LIVE!

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?43-The-Lounge

ShootR'Die
10 March 2013, 11:59
hey gents. got to break in my new Mossberg 930 yesterday. blew through the high and low brass with only 2 lil hiccups. probably shot 200 clays with it. gun cycled fine until about the 50th shot then it double feed. no biggie. I was running low brass and expected some issues especially since shes brand new. but after that she ran fine until another 50 or so rounds later when the same thing happened. once again, no biggie. I expected something to give me some sort of hell. but after that I never had an issue. gun ran flawlessly. unfortunately for me I did not perform so well. I can normally hit 85 out of the 90 in each box when using one of my pumps but with this new semi auto I was off my "A" game big time. not sure if maybe the high brass rounds were throwing me off or the gun itself or the sights. but all I know is that the gun was a great purchase and did far better with the low brass than the Remi 1100s and 1187. not to take anything awayway from the Remis.

Jerry R
15 March 2013, 17:39
GENERAL DISCUSSION SECTION IS NOW LIVE!

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?43-The-Lounge

Wow Stick, I'm gone a couple of days, you build a new forum and fill it up!! I've got a lot of catching up to do! LOL. [wow]

lamarbrog
14 April 2013, 23:29
I wouldn't mind seeing a general discussion area, but definitely understand the reasons against having one. I'm among the first to quickly get annoyed with an excess of threads regards politics, religion, etc. It seems that whenever something major happens in the country, anything that is a "general discussion" forums suddenly turns into a "topic of the week" forum and isn't so "general" anymore... it's focused on something arbitrary.

The main reason I would enjoy having general discussion here is that I enjoy other hobbies alongside the firearms field. I'm really into backpacking, and try to mix that with shooting/training whenever I can. I feel like if I want to talk about backpacking backpacks and how they go along with my shooting equipment, though, that I am off topic and that it doesn't belong.

So, I do see both sides of the coin... not sure what the answer is. I do know that a "general discussion" that is run too strictly by site staff is worse than not having one at all. Defeats the purpose if you are afraid to post in it for fear of getting disciplined over something seemingly harmless. For example, what constitutes "politics"? Easy to just say "no politics", but much harder to define where politics begin, and shooting sports and current events end.


Edit: ^^^ Look who didn't read the whole thread.

rob_s
18 April 2013, 03:55
GENERAL DISCUSSION SECTION IS NOW LIVE!

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?43-The-Lounge


Well, that was unfortunate. and look how quickly it filled up with drivel.

This site is one of the least-stupid on the internet, and lack of a GD was a good portion of the reason for that. I don't get people's obsession with general discussion sections. don't they have friends in real life they can talk to? aren't there already dozens of forums dedicated to politics, chilli, whatever?