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TracerX
1 April 2014, 13:37
Fortis does it again!!!

http://armscollective.com/switch-rail-system-by-fortis-manufacturing/

http://armscollective.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TRX_Fortis-Switch_8967_600x400.jpg
http://armscollective.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TRX_Fortis-Switch_8963_600x400.jpg

mustangfreek
1 April 2014, 14:12
Just seen this intro video with chris tran on this, says the 308 version will be out first then the 223/556 upper version next

Judicator
1 April 2014, 14:59
Ya this is a cool idea.


Sent from my IPhone, please ignore spelling mistakes. Siri is dumb.

GOST
1 April 2014, 15:09
Is the listed weights with barrel nut? If so that's pretty light.

KevinBLC
1 April 2014, 18:54
Why do you need a quick detach rail? Maybe I don't get it?

AR-10
1 April 2014, 22:05
Hopefully it doesn't have the same profile as their other rails.

I had one of their REV handguards and it felt like I was holding a 2x4.

UWone77
1 April 2014, 23:33
Hopefully it doesn't have the same profile as their other rails.

I had one of their REV handguards and it felt like I was holding a 2x4.

I haven't played with the 556 version, but the 308 version wasn't as narrow as a 2x4, but I know what you're talking about.

UWone77
1 April 2014, 23:36
On a Mega MATEN Upper.

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/IMG_1758_zps1ae5ed6e.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/IMG_1758_zps1ae5ed6e.jpg.html)

GOST
2 April 2014, 01:52
Doesn't look like the profile will feel as bad as a Rev model, since it lacks the bottom rail.

GOST
2 April 2014, 01:57
I would probably like this rail better without the quick detach thingy. This rail and the new Mega monolithic look very similar.

UWone77
2 April 2014, 20:43
Doesn't like the profile will feel as bad as a Rev model, since it lacks the bottom rail.

The profile in my opinion is much better than the REV. In my opinion that was the weakness of the REV rail as good as it is, it's not comfortable for a lot of shooters from the feedback I've heard. This profile is more rounded and more comfortable. The AR15 version should be shipping soon as well.

UWone77
7 April 2014, 17:43
Just talked to the guys at Fortis Manufacturing today. The AR15 version is going to roll out just before summer. Later in the summer they are also going to revise the REV rail. They are likely going to either remove the bottom 1913 rails, or just have them at the end of the rail like the Geissele MK4.

GOST
7 April 2014, 18:25
Nice to Fortis pushing to improve their products.

mustangfreek
8 April 2014, 01:28
Just talked to the guys at Fortis Manufacturing today. The AR15 version is going to roll out just before summer. Later in the summer they are also going to revise the REV rail. They are likely going to either remove the bottom 1913 rails, or just have them at the end of the rail like the Geissele MK4.

Humm... i just finally finished up a build using a 14" fortis that i have had since late summer last year, and have not used it much, but not sure what to think of the rev rail quite yet, almost too tall as it sits right now. Maybe with some more handling ill grow to like it more..

UWone77
9 April 2014, 11:29
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/IMG_1756_zps1cb6bb38.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/IMG_1756_zps1cb6bb38.jpg.html)

GOST
9 April 2014, 14:36
That view looks pretty cool.

GOST
12 April 2014, 04:38
Still don't know how I feel about the QD since I rarely take my rail systems off. I would like to see this same Fortis with a conventional installation method.

tact
12 April 2014, 04:43
It's handy for some of us that like a short barrel with a suppressor .....I like it protected by the rail. Before Fortis there was the DRD version but the rail is pretty plain.

tappedandtagged
12 April 2014, 11:58
If they do make the Rev rail without the bottom rail, I'd be interested. But the current offering and this QD one, not so much.

UWone77
14 April 2014, 23:41
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/IMG_1818_zpsdab0913c.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/IMG_1818_zpsdab0913c.jpg.html)

GOST
15 April 2014, 02:19
Quit showing pics of this rail. It's starting to grow me.

UWone77
15 April 2014, 23:57
Quit showing pics of this rail. It's starting to grow me.

[:D]

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/IMG_1820_zpse0e91195.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/IMG_1820_zpse0e91195.jpg.html)

GOST
16 April 2014, 01:23
Not cool, pretty picture though. I want a Mega upper also now.

mustangfreek
16 April 2014, 01:27
Quit showing off damnit...

Nice nightforce there also.....:P

UWone77
16 April 2014, 01:30
Quit showing off damnit...

Nice nightforce there also.....:P

I threw that in just for you.

AR-10
16 April 2014, 08:31
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/IMG_1818_zpsdab0913c.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/IMG_1818_zpsdab0913c.jpg.html)

Mind if I ask who makes that suppressor cover?

GOST
16 April 2014, 08:38
Where's the rest of this rifle?

mustangfreek
16 April 2014, 16:15
I threw that in just for you.

[BD]...ya im jealous..

skd_tactical
16 April 2014, 20:18
That is the griffon industries HMMS. Very nice can cover.

SOS

UWone77
16 April 2014, 20:34
Where's the rest of this rifle?

In the parts bin.

Built up one of the MATEN Lowers, but decided it needed a Geissele Trigger and a MIAD 1.1 Grip, so I tore part of it down. I'll get to it after vacation.

ducrider14
15 June 2015, 19:13
any more feedback on the fortis switch rail from anyone? trying to decide between this and the geissele MK8 M-LOK 13" rail

Dstrbdmedic167
15 June 2015, 19:28
any more feedback on the fortis switch rail from anyone? trying to decide between this and the geissele MK8 M-LOK 13" rail

Both are nice! MK8 is an awesome feeling rail. The biggest thing I like about the switch is the ability to remove it for cleaning. They have the switch 2.0 in MLOK now as well!

Slippers
15 June 2015, 20:23
MK8 is a rock solid tank. Fortis switch is light and slim. They're very different rails, so I recommend figuring out what's important to you.

ducrider14
15 June 2015, 20:33
thanks, not really sure which way I am gonna go yet, i will have to check out the switch mlok, might do a lightweight build as this is gonna be around a proof research ar barrel, but i really like those geissele rails

GOST
15 June 2015, 20:44
MK8 is a rock solid tank. Fortis switch is light and slim. They're very different rails, so I recommend figuring out what's important to you.

+1... These 2 handguards are very different, the MK8 has more girth. I've been using a MK4 for awhile and it's been very good, but if you're wanting a slim handguard I'd go with the Fortis.

ducrider14
14 July 2015, 19:22
so I got a 12" fortis switch rail and the locking mechanism wouldn't lock the arm in place, it would just not latch at all, so rainier arms said send it back and they would give me a refund, my question is for the guys that have tried one is should I just have it replaced and try another one out, how did you think the locking mechanism is going to hold up, does it feel solid, or should

i just get a bcm kmr and be done with it, its a shame cause I really like the looks of the switch rail

UWone77
14 July 2015, 19:26
so I got a 12" fortis switch rail and the locking mechanism wouldn't lock the arm in place, it would just not latch at all, so rainier arms said send it back and they would give me a refund, my question is for the guys that have tried one is should I just have it replaced and try another one out, how did you think the locking mechanism is going to hold up, does it feel solid, or should

i just get a bcm kmr and be done with it, its a shame cause I really like the looks of the switch rail

I have around 4 SWITCH Handguards, and I haven't run into an issue with the locking mechanism. They are pretty stiff when they are new.

If you're sure you installed it correctly, it might have been out of spec, and you could always try another one. Mistakes do happen.

ducrider14
14 July 2015, 19:47
I have around 4 SWITCH Handguards, and I haven't run into an issue with the locking mechanism. They are pretty stiff when they are new.

If you're sure you installed it correctly, it might have been out of spec, and you could always try another one. Mistakes do happen.
it was correct, for some reason it just wouldn't stay latched, i sent a video of it to rainier arms, how do you like your switch rails?, any experience with the bcm kmr, any comparisons? might just get another switch as I really like it, no worries if it was just one that didn't work, i don't get to worked up about those things, way more important things to get upset about
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q17/ducrider749S/th_19A56ABA-A44E-494F-8FAC-B2B8CAF37B86_zpssviarjg6.mp4 (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q17/ducrider749S/19A56ABA-A44E-494F-8FAC-B2B8CAF37B86_zpssviarjg6.mp4)

ducrider14
14 July 2015, 19:48
http://vid132.photobucket.com/albums/q17/ducrider749S/19A56ABA-A44E-494F-8FAC-B2B8CAF37B86_zpssviarjg6.mp4

UWone77
15 July 2015, 10:35
For the most part, I really like the SWITCH Rails. Looks like that SWITCH of yours definitely has an issue if it's unlatching on its own. Everyone puts out a dud from time to time, but so far I've had good experiences with all my Fortis products.

However, I think they need to address 2 key elements on the SWITCH, which IMHO make them much better than they are.

First they need to make one with an internal diameter large enough to accommodate a suppressor.

Second, they need to make the "sleeves" available separately for purchase, which they haven't done yet. This was one of the bigger selling points when they originally designed it. If you could have several extra handguard sleeves to pop in and off, you could have them set up for different lengths, setups that were mission/range specific to you. This was going to appeal to people who did not want to buy or could afford multiple uppers/rifles.

Other than ease of installation, I think the SWITCH portion of the handguard isn't being used to its potential. If you have no need for the SWITCH portion, I'd just get a REV II, very similar feel.

SINNER
15 July 2015, 11:14
I could live with them not selling the sleeves solo if they would fit over a can. In their current state it's a pointless feature.

UWone77
15 July 2015, 11:41
I could live with them not selling the sleeves solo if they would fit over a can. In their current state it's a pointless feature.

Well that's because you can afford as many uppers as you want. [:D]

But yeah, when I first saw the prototype, I was like, this isn't big enough to fit a can... you're going to lose a big portion of your target audience.

SINNER
15 July 2015, 13:34
Well that's because you can afford as many uppers as you want. [:D]

But yeah, when I first saw the prototype, I was like, this isn't big enough to fit a can... you're going to lose a big portion of your target audience.

Can you ever afford everything you want? Lol

cdavid67
25 October 2015, 09:38
My AR's are all Adams Arms gas piston. I bought a Rev cut out for my 14.5 barrel rifle. I actually love it. Thinking Fortis was gas piston friendly, i bought a 14" Switch to go over my Adams Arms XLP gas piston setup on a Black Rain 16" with carbine length gas system. The barrel nut (sleeve) was too long so I went ahead and notched it to allow for adequate piston rod stop length. I attempted to slide the rail on and DOH! it does not clear my Adams Arms XLP gas block! Unbelievable. That's what I get for assuming and not trying the fit first.
I thought the Switch would be perfect since the carbine length has the gas block so far inside the rail. I could just slide it off to clean the piston setup. I can't return the Switch because I modified the barrel nut. My other option is a Syrac piston setup which has a narrow gas block.

UWone77
25 October 2015, 23:41
My AR's are all Adams Arms gas piston. I bought a Rev cut out for my 14.5 barrel rifle. I actually love it. Thinking Fortis was gas piston friendly, i bought a 14" Switch to go over my Adams Arms XLP gas piston setup on a Black Rain 16" with carbine length gas system. The barrel nut (sleeve) was too long so I went ahead and notched it to allow for adequate piston rod stop length. I attempted to slide the rail on and DOH! it does not clear my Adams Arms XLP gas block! Unbelievable. That's what I get for assuming and not trying the fit first.
I thought the Switch would be perfect since the carbine length has the gas block so far inside the rail. I could just slide it off to clean the piston setup. I can't return the Switch because I modified the barrel nut. My other option is a Syrac piston setup which has a narrow gas block.

I've got an upper running a Syrac Piston. It's not perfect, but a perfect fit under standard handguards that don't fit traditional full size piston kits.