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UWone77
16 April 2014, 01:16
Coming soon is the Gear Sector (https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/267/) Mod 3 Scout Light Offset Mount. The Mod 3 introduces a 1144 Stress proof heat treated full width steel index. Hopefully Jason Trusty can chime in later and fill us in on all the Mod 3 differences. Checkout all the offerings from Gear Sector here (https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/267/).


Description

The Patented [ US Patent No. D669,149 ] Gear Sector™ offset flashlight mount was designed to provide a low profile, ergonomic solution for attaching a weapon light to a Picatinny rail. We designed the mount to fit perfectly flush with the Tango Down rail panels for an uninterrupted rail space. This model fits the Surefire Scout Light® series lights which include the M300A, M300B, M600B, M600C, and M600U weapon lights. It comes complete with all mounting hardware, screws, allen keys, and Vibra-Tite® to make installation fast and easy. Mod 3 introduces an 1144 StressProof® heat treated full width steel index.

Surefire® M300A
Surefire® M300B
Surefire® M600B
Surefire® M600C
Surefire® M600U


Materials & Construction

The Surefire Scout Light® Offset Flashlight Mount is constructed using multiple base materials and is precision CNC machined from billet stock. Material and finish processes are outlined below:
Base Material: 6061-T6 Aluminum
Base Finish: Cerakote™ Dark Earth ( H-235 ) over clear Type III, Class II Hard Coat
Index Material: 1144 StressProof® heat treated steel
Index Finish: Nitrocarburising by Nitrotec®
Weight: 0.96 ozs.
Compliance: 100% Berry Amendment Compliant
Origin: Proudly Made in the USA


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GOST
16 April 2014, 01:20
I love these mounts.

JGifford
16 April 2014, 09:16
But...why?

MoxyDave
16 April 2014, 14:11
Gorgeous. Gear Sector makes some really nice stuff. I'm in the market for a Scout light, might have to give this a shot.

JTrusty
17 April 2014, 15:25
But...why?

Because we can. ;)

But in all seriousness, we are always listening to our customers and always looking to improve where improvement is possible. We are extremely proud of our track record. To date, I can count the number of component failures on one hand. That said, those few failures are enough in my book to bring us back to the drawing board to see if further improvement is possible. All Mod 0 parts ( first run ) utilized a cross bolt that threaded directly into the outboard side of the base. This method was more than adequate, however, you can always count on someone to torque beyond recommended specs. That said, we set out to see if we could alleviate this point of failure and therefore remove the need for a torque spec altogether.

By introducing a full width 1144 Stressproof steel index, we achieved just that. You simply can not strip the threaded index. You will shear the head off the grade 8 fastener long before you shear the threads out of the index.

While redesigning the clamping mechanism, we also looked to reduce the total component weight without reducing component strength or esthetics ( we are big into esthetics - a component should look as good as it functions ).

Even after adding a full width steel index and steel spring pin, we were still able to reduce component weight roughly 30% across the board. Keep in mind all components are moving to Mod 3 status. Weight savings % is entirely dependent on model. But as an example, Mod 0 Scout mounts weighed 1.2ozs and the new Mod 3 weighs .96ozs. ( stronger & lighter - what's not to like? )

We also added new functionality to some parts. For example, our QD sling mounts now feature 8 clock position indexing for improved weapon carry. We also came up with an improved method for cutting the detent geometry in the socket that is superior to every other QD socket mount on the market - this new method increases the load bearing capability of the QD swivel.

Lastly, we have many new mounts already in production to add to our ever growing product line. You can expect to see them in coming months.

[:)]

JGifford
17 April 2014, 16:48
Because we can. ;)

But in all seriousness, we are always listening to our customers and always looking to improve where improvement is possible. We are extremely proud of our track record. To date, I can count the number of component failures on one hand. That said, those few failures are enough in my book to bring us back to the drawing board to see if further improvement is possible. All Mod 0 parts ( first run ) utilized a cross bolt that threaded directly into the outboard side of the base. This method was more than adequate, however, you can always count on someone to torque beyond recommended specs. That said, we set out to see if we could alleviate this point of failure and therefore remove the need for a torque spec altogether.

By introducing a full width 1144 Stressproof steel index, we achieved just that. You simply can not strip the threaded index. You will shear the head off the grade 8 fastener long before you shear the threads out of the index.

While redesigning the clamping mechanism, we also looked to reduce the total component weight without reducing component strength or esthetics ( we are big into esthetics - a component should look as good as it functions ).

Even after adding a full width steel index and steel spring pin, we were still able to reduce component weight roughly 30% across the board. Keep in mind all components are moving to Mod 3 status. Weight savings % is entirely dependent on model. But as an example, Mod 0 Scout mounts weighed 1.2ozs and the new Mod 3 weighs .96ozs. ( stronger & lighter - what's not to like? )

We also added new functionality to some parts. For example, our QD sling mounts now feature 8 clock position indexing for improved weapon carry. We also came up with an improved method for cutting the detent geometry in the socket that is superior to every other QD socket mount on the market - this new method increases the load bearing capability of the QD swivel.

Lastly, we have many new mounts already in production to add to our ever growing product line. You can expect to see them in coming months.

[:)]
So if I want the 0.7oz model I better buy it now before you switch to the heavier and completely unnecessary if you aren't an idiot with an s7 tool steel rail and an orangutans upper body...? I don't like the new model because it's heavier and unnecessary. I know you deliver what's asked by the majority. Any successful inventor does. That's just how I'm interpreting what happened and my stance on it. I'm sure it performs as advertised and is as well executed as your other products.

Slippers
17 April 2014, 17:59
Wait...what? The new model is lighter according to Jason's description.

Eric
18 April 2014, 04:46
I don't like the new model because it's heavier and unnecessary. I read it that the new units will be lighter, not heavier.

JTrusty
18 April 2014, 06:40
Not sure who Mr. Gifford is or why he seems to have a beef with me ( maybe he works for a competitor? ), but reading is fundamental. He already quoted me, but let me quote myself again for the record:


Mod 0 Scout mounts weighed 1.2ozs and the new Mod 3 weighs .96ozs. ( stronger & lighter - what's not to like? )

[:)]

UWone77
18 April 2014, 11:57
Not sure who Mr. Gifford is or why he seems to have a beef with me ( maybe he works for a competitor? ), but reading is fundamental. He already quoted me, but let me quote myself again for the record:



[:)]


Mr. Trusty, I have a beef... where are those Gear Sector Rails?! [:D]

GOST
18 April 2014, 12:32
No kidding, tease me with some pretty pics and I get nothing. These tactics remind me of someone I'm married to.[:D]

Computalotapus
18 April 2014, 13:56
Mr. Trusty, I have a beef... where are those Gear Sector Rails?! [:D]




Ditto....I had to pick up a Odin Works rail :( waited as long as I could for the Gear Sector rail.





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GOST
18 April 2014, 19:12
Jason where is this rail? I want either a 9.75" or a 10.75".

MoxyDave
18 April 2014, 19:51
Gear Sector Mod 3 Scout Light Offset Mount at MidwayUSA (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/3281155134/gear-sector-offset-picatinny-rail-flashlight-mount-surefire-m300a-m600b-m600c-scout-series-ar-15-aluminum)

Ordered on Tuesday, received on Friday. Nice mount! Works great with my Surefire M300B (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1591441955/surefire-m300b-scout-light-weaponlight-led-bulb-aluminum). Using it on a Troy Alpha rail and I dig it so far.

I'll post some photos eventually. Too busy enjoying Spring! [:)]

JGifford
18 April 2014, 22:38
Not sure who Mr. Gifford is or why he seems to have a beef with me ( maybe he works for a competitor? ), but reading is fundamental. He already quoted me, but let me quote myself again for the record:



[:)]

your mod2 product is listed as 0.7oz.
http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?5492-Gear-Sector-Surefire-Scout-Light-Mod2-Mounts&daysprune=-1
There is nothing to beef over. Numbers is numbers. I'm no mathematician, but 0.7 is tinier than 0.96. Ordering a mod 2 while I can still get one. Never met you. I work in healthcare. Don't take it personal. I just have no use for a mount stronger than my rail by such a large margin at a 26% weight penalty over your mod2.

JTrusty
30 April 2014, 12:07
First run of Mod 3 Scout Mounts (https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/266/) now available!

https://www.gearsector.com/img/product/474e033fa4ad129da1d771b639fb63bf.jpg

[:)]

UWone77
30 April 2014, 12:13
Mr Trusty,

I really don't want to buy mounts for all my Scout Lights, so I guess I'll start with just 1. [:D]

UWone77
6 May 2014, 09:57
I really wanted a Gear Sector Mod 3, but settle for a Mod 2 to help Rainier clear out their inventory.

JTrusty
7 May 2014, 10:06
I really wanted a Gear Sector Mod 3, but settle for a Mod 2 to help Rainier clear out their inventory.

You're a good man. :)

UWone77
7 May 2014, 11:04
This Mod 2 is my first Gear Sector light mount. I own the foregrip, sling mounts, and plates. So far I'm very pleased where it positions the light on my rifle. I'm sure the Mod 3 offers the improvements that are listed, but if anyone finds a closeout sale on a Mod 2, don't hesitate to buy one.

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UWone77
9 May 2014, 12:24
Just like their Mod 3 mounts for Scout Lights, Gear Sector (https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/271/)'s Surefire X-Series® Offset Flashlight Mount Black - Mod 3 now available! Checkout Gear Sector (https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/271/) for more information and ordering.


DESCRIPTION

The Patented [US Patent No. D684,647] Gear Sector™ offset flashlight mount was designed to provide a low profile, ergonomic solution for attaching a weapon light to a Picatinny rail. We designed the mount to fit perfectly flush with the Tango Down® rail panels for an uninterrupted rail space. This model fits the Surefire X-Series® lights. It can also be used to offset iron sights and MRDs. It comes complete with all mounting hardware, screws, hex keys, and Vibra-Tite® to make installation fast and easy. Mod 3 components feature an 1144 StressProof® heat treated full width steel index.

Fits the following lights:
Surefire X300®
Surefire X300® Ultra
Surefire X400®
Surefire X400® Ultra
Streamlight TLR-1®
Streamlight TLR-2®
Streamlight TLR-3®
Streamlight TLR-4®
Streamlight TLR-VIR®


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GriffonSec
9 May 2014, 14:26
Love Jason's stuff, it's all over my SBR (recently ditched the AFG for his stubby and handstop, much much better!).

I would love to see this mod3 be able to extend forward to kill any possibly interference with some front sights (like my MBUS)

JTrusty
10 May 2014, 11:04
Love Jason's stuff, it's all over my SBR (recently ditched the AFG for his stubby and handstop, much much better!).

Thanks brother. [:)]

I would love to see this mod3 be able to extend forward to kill any possibly interference with some front sights (like my MBUS)

Better to offset the front sight and mount than to produce a weaker part. Trust me, long before our current line of products hit the market several years ago, our initial design was very close to the current IWC / Haley offerings. However, they simply could not stand up to our destructive testing. The mounts would bend / fail when drop tested. That said, we stayed at it until we produced the mounts you see today. They will survive long after the light fails.

I explained to Earl / IWC what we had discovered through our destructive testing some time before they released theirs to market. Still not sure how or if he addressed it. But I am not comfortable releasing a product to market that can't sustain the abuses it is certainly going to experience with the clients we serve.

GriffonSec
10 May 2014, 19:39
Better to offset the front sight and mount than to produce a weaker part. Trust me, long before our current line of products hit the market several years ago, our initial design was very close to the current IWC / Haley offerings. However, they simply could not stand up to our destructive testing. The mounts would bend / fail when drop tested. That said, we stayed at it until we produced the mounts you see today. They will survive long after the light fails.

I explained to Earl / IWC what we had discovered through our destructive testing some time before they released theirs to market. Still not sure how or if he addressed it. But I am not comfortable releasing a product to market that can't sustain the abuses it is certainly going to experience with the clients we serve.


And that's why your product is on my ride! ;)

Was more thinking out loud. I did have an idea a while back involving various single 123 led heads and tailcaps but scratched it.....

UWone77
13 May 2014, 11:55
Following with the rest of the Gear Secto (https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/261/)r Line, their Surefire 6P® Offset Flashlight Mount Black - Mod 3 are now available. Check out Gear Sector (https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/261/) for more information and ordering.


DESCRIPTION

The Patented [US Patent No. D644,706] Gear Sector™ offset flashlight mount was designed to provide a low profile, ergonomic solution for attaching a weapon light to a Picatinny rail. We designed the mount to fit perfectly flush with the Tango Down® rail panels for an uninterrupted rail space. This model fits the Surefire 6P® series lights as well as all 1” bodied lights. It comes complete with all mounting hardware, screws, hex keys, and Vibra-Tite® to make installation fast and easy. Mod 3 components feature a 25% reduction in weight as well as an 1144 StressProof® heat treated full width steel index.

Fits the following lights:
Elzetta ZFL-60
Surefire 6P®
Surefire 6P® LED
Surefire 6PX® Pro
Surefire 6PX® Tactical
Surefire 9P®
Surefire G2X® Pro
Surefire G2X® Tactical
Surefire P2X Fury®
Surefire P2X Fury® Defender®
Surefire P2X Fury® Tactical


MATERIALS & CONSTRUCTION


The Surefire 6P® Offset Flashlight Mount is constructed using multiple base materials and is precision CNC machined from billet stock. Material and finish processes are outlined below:
Base Material: 6061-T6 Aluminum
Base Finish: Military Specification ( MIL-A-8625F ) Type III, Class II Hard Coat
Index Material: 1144 StressProof® heat treated steel
Index Finish: Nitrocarburising by Nitrotec®
Weight: 1.12 ozs.
Compliance: 100% Berry Amendment Compliant
Origin: Proudly Made in the USA


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GOST
13 May 2014, 12:41
JTrusty how about one with the WEVO logo engraved on it?

Wondering Beard
14 May 2014, 10:17
Is it possible to see a photo, of an X300 (or equivalent) on the Surefire X-Series® Offset Flashlight Mount, installed at 12 o'clock?

I like to be able to easily activate my light with my support hand, irrelevant of which shoulder I'm shooting from. Right now, an X300 mounted at 9 o'clock or 12 o'clock has been my solution, but I like the concept of an offset mount better. So, a photo would be the next best thing to actually holding one; it would be even better if the handguard is a smooth tube like a Troy VTAC, a CMR, or any of the new ones coming out.

Thanks in advance.

JGifford
15 May 2014, 21:54
Well, looks like I might buy a Gen 3 after-all. The Gen 2 I have won't fit my rail on the sides because I run a narrow rail and there is not any room for the mount to "rock" on. Is the Gen 3 more accommodating of slender rails?

JTrusty
19 May 2014, 09:23
Well, looks like I might buy a Gen 3 after-all. The Gen 2 I have won't fit my rail on the sides because I run a narrow rail and there is not any room for the mount to "rock" on. Is the Gen 3 more accommodating of slender rails?

Mr Gifford, if I may ask, what rail system are you running that is too narrow? We have only run into this once before, and we have made adjustments to account for it on Mod 3 parts. Feel free to complete a returns form on our website and send in your Mod 2 unit and I will replace it for you with a Mod 3.

elx3248
7 October 2014, 18:35
mr jtrusty: any idea of when the mod 3 scout light mounts will be back in stock? i have been waiting for over a month for restock....