Noveske NQR

[GOST]

Saw this rail listed on Noveske's site but no pics. Anyone got a pic of these yet?

[GOST]

I'm assuming that NQR stands for Noveske Quad Rail.

[UWone77]

Saw this rail listed on Noveske's site but no pics. Anyone got a pic of these yet?

Yes [:D]

[GOST]

You to good to share?[BD]

[UWone77]

You to good to share?[BD]

There's a reason why there are no pics on the site. They don't want them released yet. I'll ask what we can release if anything.

[GOST]

I saw a pic on TOS was just wondering if that was it.

[UWone77]

I saw a pic on TOS was just wondering if that was it.

That's it. There are photos out there, so it's not a big super secret.

[GOST]

Looked like a NSR with rails instead of keymod holes.

[UWone77]

Just for you GOST


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2007_zps4cb7481a.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2007_zps4cb7481a.jpg.html)

[Ride4frnt]

Wonder how many will complain that they like their accessories EXACTLY where that QD socket is in the middle. Looks good.

[UWone77]

Wonder how many will complain that they like their accessories EXACTLY where that QD socket is in the middle. Looks good.

I think they heard the same complaints when SWS made their rails... obviously they didn't care [:D]

[GOST]

I guess this is replacing the SWS rails?

[DMViergever]

I actually like the QD socket in the middle. Much better than on the end. They also did a good thing making the end QD socket so small as far as the space it takes up.

[UWone77]

I actually like the QD socket in the middle. Much better than on the end. They also did a good thing making the end QD socket so small as far as the space it takes up.

I agree, the QD socket in the middle works just fine. I never understood why manufacturers like you said put QD sockets at the end of the rail. Who attaches their slings at the very end?

SWS hasn't made their rails for awhile now from what I understand. They do look very similar to the SWS style rails though.

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2008_zps9777f875.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2008_zps9777f875.jpg.html)

[Slippers]

Based on the mounting screws at 3/6/9 o'clock it probably uses the NSR barrel nut. The curved transition from the 3 and 6 o'clock picatinny rails up to the 12 o'clock rail looks just like the NSR, as do the slots that run the full length of the rail.

[UWone77]

Based on the mounting screws at 3/6/9 o'clock it probably uses the NSR barrel nut. The curved transition from the 3 and 6 o'clock picatinny rails up to the 12 o'clock rail looks just like the NSR, as do the slots that run the full length of the rail.

All of the Noveske Rails use the NSR Barrel nut, including the upcoming Hybrid Rail.

[UWone77]

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2009_zps0c930687.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2009_zps0c930687.jpg.html)

[GOST]

You got pics of the hybrid?

[mustangfreek]

You got pics of the hybrid?

He has them..is what it looks like....:P

[UWone77]

You got pics of the hybrid?

I have an 11" Hybrid, but can't release any photos of it.

[ikevin]

First post to say that is just pure awesome.

[TripleBravo]

Just for you GOST


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2007_zps4cb7481a.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2007_zps4cb7481a.jpg.html)

Such an awesome looking blaster!

[GOST]

Nice stick UW, you need to come off the pics of the hybrid though

[UWone77]

Nice stick UW, you need to come off the pics of the hybrid though

Stay tuned... I don't have it installed, so I'll do some plain pics of it by itself tonight or tomorrow.

[GOST]

Very nice.

[UWone77]

Very nice.

Well GOST,

I was told I can't post any pics until the RECOIL article comes out first on them. Feel free to read my article there ;)

What I can tell you is I have a 11.1" and it's exactly 11.1" and a KX5 will fit inside, but a KX3 is a no-go. It uses a standard Noveske NSR Barrel nut, and weight 8.9oz without the nut.

Planned lengths are 7,9,11.1, 13.5, and 15.

[n4p226r]

i think its great that they are using the NSR barrel nut. i like the NSR but its nice to know i can easily switch to a quad rail now, especially in NJ where i have a pinned comp.

is the hybrid the rail'd top and bottom with the NSR on the side? i think sheri posted one in tiffany blue.

http://instagram.com/p/mOkGlop1Fp/?modal=true

[GOST]

I would say that's probably it.

[UWone77]

I can neither confirm or deny that's it [:D]

[mustangfreek]

Cool..... [:D]

[GOST]

I would really like to see a Gen3 lower with the pig as the roll mark.

[Cobalt]

I like the look of the rail that Sheri posted in the Tiffany Blue. Interesting design, sort of the Noveske answer to the Fortis Rail. Keymod/Reg. Rail type. Interesting hyrbrid.

[GOST]

I was hoping the hybrid rail would be keymod/m-lok.

[n4p226r]

I would really like to see a Gen3 lower with the pig as the roll mark.

that would be awesome.

I'm hoping they come out with more cerakote colors. It's no big deal to cerakote the lower, but since it looks like they are laser engraving the uppers, you miss out on all their cool markings if you have it done

[UWone77]

Sneak peek of the Noveske NHR


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2078_zps7af940ce.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2078_zps7af940ce.jpg.html)

[Slippers]

Not going to lie, I might actually prefer this on my 18" Noveske over the normal NSR for a quick release bipod mount.

Also, I really wish Noveske would take an end mill and deburr each slot on the picatinny rails like Centurion and Daniel Defense do.

[n4p226r]

Just for you GOST


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2007_zps4cb7481a.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2007_zps4cb7481a.jpg.html)

is that FDE cerakote or the magpul FDE cerakote?

[UWone77]

is that FDE cerakote or the magpul FDE cerakote?

Not sure, it came from Noveske that way.

[Chewy]

Me likey. (The NHR Rail)

[Commiehunter]

Any particular reason Noveske is sticking with KeyMod for one more release instead of pushing out an M-LOK variant?

[ROK]

I'm a fan of the NSR rails, using a 9" on my pistol and the 16.7" on my 20" musket.
I see the NQR in my future.
Nice stuff.

[n4p226r]

seems like they are hitting stores now. i see a few places stocking them (on uppers) . i really like the looks of the NQR. NHR doesnt do anything for me.

[n4p226r]

Do you have a picture of the NHR barrel but? Noveske replied to my email saying the NQR uses a different barrel nut than the NSR. I was hoping they were interchangeable.

[UWone77]

Do you have a picture of the NHR barrel but? Noveske replied to my email saying the NQR uses a different barrel nut than the NSR. I was hoping they were interchangeable.

Unless they changed it, my NQR, NSR, and NHR, all use the same barrel nut.

[n4p226r]

Weird. Maybe they thought I was talking about the old quad rail.

[DutyUse]

Well GOST,

I was told I can't post any pics until the RECOIL article comes out first on them. Feel free to read my article there ;)

What I can tell you is I have a 11.1" and it's exactly 11.1" and a KX5 will fit inside, but a KX3 is a no-go. It uses a standard Noveske NSR Barrel nut, and weight 8.9oz without the nut.

Planned lengths are 7,9,11.1, 13.5, and 15.


Sneak peek of the Noveske NHR


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2078_zps7af940ce.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2078_zps7af940ce.jpg.html)

Let us know when and which Recoil it is, I'd like to read it. I'm really intrigued by this rail, it looks like it could be pretty interesting... Plus I'm a sucker for Noveske stuff :D

[UWone77]

Let us know when and which Recoil it is, I'd like to read it. I'm really intrigued by this rail, it looks like it could be pretty interesting... Plus I'm a sucker for Noveske stuff :D

It was actually a few issues ago now.

[DutyUse]

Oops sorry. Didn't check the date of post. Which issue was it?

[n4p226r]

http://www.recoilweb.com/magazine/issue-14/ issue 14

[Stickman]

Weird. Maybe they thought I was talking about the old quad rail.

I also have several quad rails, all using the NSR barrel nut.

[jataylor]

I don't suppose Noveske is gonna sell the NQR separately are they?? Would love to put one on my RECCE Basic.

[UWone77]

I don't suppose Noveske is gonna sell the NQR separately are they?? Would love to put one on my RECCE Basic.

I believe they will, it just might be awhile...

[jataylor]

I believe they will, it just might be awhile...

Man, I hope they do. Take my money now Lorina!!!

[GOST]

I'd email them. They have been known to sell stuff that they don't have listed yet. Joel sold me a Noveske VLTOR MUR1A about a year before they ever listed them for sell stripped.

[jataylor]

I'd email them. They have been known to sell stuff that they don't have listed yet. Joel sold me a Noveske VLTOR MUR1A about a year before they ever listed them for sell stripped.
Alright, I may fire off an email to them and see what they say.

-JT

[UWone77]

Alright, I may fire off an email to them and see what they say.

-JT

What length do you plan on buying?

[jataylor]

What length do you plan on buying?
I was wanting to see about the 9" NQR because I'd like to keep the FSB on this particular gun.

-JT

[n4p226r]

I also have several quad rails, all using the NSR barrel nut.

Weird. Good to know though.

[jataylor]

Shot down.

"At this time we are not selling our Quad Rail separate."

-JT

[UWone77]

Shot down.

"At this time we are not selling our Quad Rail separate."

-JT

Hmmm, I wonder if I have a 9" in my pile of parts.

[jataylor]

Hmmm, I wonder if I have a 9" in my pile of parts.
Well, if you happen to come across one holler at me. I'd sure be interested.

-JT

[Deadwing]

An 11" NQR is exactly what i've been looking for to complete an upper i've wanted to build for a long time. I've got a 12.5" Noveske CHF barrel and a stripped Noveske upper that have been collecting dust while i hem and haw about what rail to get. Sadly, it looks like these will be about as easy to obtain as a DD GL/SSC for the time being.

[GOST]

They're probably waiting to tax return season before they release these.

[jataylor]

They're probably waiting to tax return season before they release these.

Go figure! I'd still like to put one on this particular Noveske of mine.

-JT

[UWone77]

Well, if you happen to come across one holler at me. I'd sure be interested.

-JT

Looks like I only have a 13.5" NQR, sorry.

[Deadwing]

Looks like I only have a 13.5" NQR, sorry.

If you're willing to part with it, i'd take that 13.5" NQR off your hands.

[UWone77]

If you're willing to part with it, i'd take that 13.5" NQR off your hands.

You'll have to PM me an offer then, and it better be damn good for a preproduction item! [:D]

[UWone77]

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2670_zpsf5af7afb.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2670_zpsf5af7afb.jpg.html)
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2671_zps37772116.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2671_zps37772116.jpg.html)

[Deadwing]

You'll have to PM me an offer then, and it better be damn good for a preproduction item! [:D]

PM sent. Merry Christmas!

[Deadwing]

I finally finished this upper! Thanks again to UW for selling me this rail. Parts list: 13.5" Noveske NQR, Noveske 16" light stainless barrel, Mega Arms billet upper, BattleComp 2.0, Rainier Arms NiB BCG, Mega Arms billet charging handle, Magpul MBUS Pro BUIS. The NQR doesn't look quite as sexy as it does when bolted up to a Noveske Gen 3 upper, but i think it turned out pretty well.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo1_zpscf807114.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo1_zpscf807114.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo7_zpsa26d48bb.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo7_zpsa26d48bb.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo6_zpsa0e26d30.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo6_zpsa0e26d30.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo4_zps3909fe0a.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo4_zps3909fe0a.jpg.html)

[Dstrbdmedic167]

That's dead sexy to me Deadwing!! Great looking upper!!

[Deadwing]

That's dead sexy to me Deadwing!! Great looking upper!!

Thank you very much! [:D]

[mustangfreek]

Some very nice stuff there....Well done...[:D]

[Deadwing]

Some very nice stuff there....Well done...[:D]

Thankage! [BD]

[Farva]

😍 beautiful!

[Deadwing]

😍 beautiful!

Thanks Farva! [:D]

[UWone77]

I think you're gonna need one of these


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2878_zpsr4ys5ypq.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2878_zpsr4ys5ypq.jpg.html)

[Dstrbdmedic167]

I think you're gonna need one of these


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2878_zpsr4ys5ypq.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2878_zpsr4ys5ypq.jpg.html)

You're an instigator aren't you 😁

[UWone77]

You're an instigator aren't you 😁

I would have cleaned off the dust on the upper if I wanted to do that. [:D]

[Dstrbdmedic167]

I would have cleaned off the dust on the upper if I wanted to do that. [:D]

Haha somehow I don't think that matters... Not in this context

[Farva]

I think you're gonna need one of these


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2878_zpsr4ys5ypq.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2878_zpsr4ys5ypq.jpg.html)

I think I might need that too! its pair up nicely with a Noveske lower I got sitting around.

[Deadwing]

I think you're gonna need one of these


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2878_zpsr4ys5ypq.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2878_zpsr4ys5ypq.jpg.html)

Well, yeah!

[UWone77]

Well, yeah!

Look for it on the classfieds soon. [:D]

Renter cost me some $$$ in repairs and dump runs. Gotta jettison a few more items.

[Deadwing]

Look for it on the classfieds soon. [:D]

Renter cost me some $$$ in repairs and dump runs. Gotta jettison a few more items.

Sucks about your renter. Sucks even more to have to sell parts! I'll keep my eyes peeled.

[n4p226r]

I'm pretty sure i need that gen 3 upper. not sure why yet though.

i do need a NSR13.5 though. I'm sure ill see one in 2015 sometime :)

[UWone77]

I'm pretty sure i need that gen 3 upper. not sure why yet though.

i do need a NSR13.5 though. I'm sure ill see one in 2015 sometime :)

If you find an NSR grab it. You may not see one again for a long long time.

[GOST]

Did someone say buy in-stock NSR's? Here's an 11" in-stock.

http://www.nwarmory.com/p-43648-noveske-nsr-11-keymod-system.aspx

[Deadwing]

Did someone say buy in-stock NSR's? Here's an 11" in-stock.

http://www.nwarmory.com/p-43648-noveske-nsr-11-keymod-system.aspx

Nice find! I might just jump on that. I've been holding out on buying a rail for my 12.5" upper build while i wait for an 11" NQR to finally make an appearance. But i'm getting a bit tired of waiting on Noveske to release product lol.

[mustangfreek]

Not clicking this thread anymore...too much want..and i end up drooling all over keyboard....:P

[Deadwing]

Not clicking this thread anymore...too much want..and i end up drooling all over keyboard....:P

This thread is a sure way to go broke lol.

[Farva]

If you find an NSR grab it. You may not see one again for a long long time.

This sounds juicy...

[n4p226r]

If you find an NSR grab it. You may not see one again for a long long time.

Come on. We need more info than that. That sounds like insider information

[Slippers]

If you find an NSR grab it. You may not see one again for a long long time.

Trying to make me regret giving you my last one? :)

[Deadwing]

Come on. We need more info than that. That sounds like insider information

Right?

Enquiring minds want to know...

[DutyUse]

Did someone say buy in-stock NSR's? Here's an 11" in-stock.

http://www.nwarmory.com/p-43648-noveske-nsr-11-keymod-system.aspx

Good find. Took me awhile to find my 13.5.

Speaking of, what's the longest nsr you can get away with behind a 16" switchblock barrel?

[GOST]

Good find. Took me awhile to find my 13.5.

Speaking of, what's the longest nsr you can get away with behind a 16" switchblock barrel?

Doubt a NSR would fit over a switchblock, so NSR 9. I think that UW guy still has a 16" switchblock for sale.

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?7089-WTS-Noveske-Rainier-Adams-Arms-Stuff

[n4p226r]

unless you have a dremel http://www.walkerprecision.net/sites/default/files/banner/Noveske%20NSR%20with%20switchblock.JPG

[UWone77]

Doubt a NSR would fit over a switchblock, so NSR 9. I think that UW guy still has a 16" switchblock for sale.

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?7089-WTS-Noveske-Rainier-Adams-Arms-Stuff

Yep, a 9" handguard is the longest you can get away with on a 16" SB.

Unless you make a custom handguard with a dremel or by a gunsmith, I've seen some nice ones, you're limited.

[jataylor]

I finally finished this upper! Thanks again to UW for selling me this rail. Parts list: 13.5" Noveske NQR, Noveske 16" light stainless barrel, Mega Arms billet upper, BattleComp 2.0, Rainier Arms NiB BCG, Mega Arms billet charging handle, Magpul MBUS Pro BUIS. The NQR doesn't look quite as sexy as it does when bolted up to a Noveske Gen 3 upper, but i think it turned out pretty well.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo1_zpscf807114.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo1_zpscf807114.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo7_zpsa26d48bb.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo7_zpsa26d48bb.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo6_zpsa0e26d30.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo6_zpsa0e26d30.jpg.html)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo4_zps3909fe0a.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo4_zps3909fe0a.jpg.html)
Looks good!

-JT

[DutyUse]

Dang I was afraid yall would say that..

[Deadwing]

Looks good!

-JT

Thanks!

[UWone77]

Trying to make me regret giving you my last one? :)

I'm just stockpiling Will... for the NSR Apocalypse. [:D]

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2897_zps4fadm9kr.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2897_zps4fadm9kr.jpg.html)

[Deadwing]

I'm just stockpiling Will... for the NSR Apocalypse. [:D]

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2897_zps4fadm9kr.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2897_zps4fadm9kr.jpg.html)

Hoarder. [BD]

[UWone77]

Hoarder. [BD]

Originally, I had plans for these... then I decided I didn't need more uppers for awhile. Barrels are expensive! [BD]

[Deadwing]

Originally, I had plans for these... then I decided I didn't need more uppers for awhile. Barrels are expensive! [BD]

Good barrels are stupid expensive. I'll find a good deal now and then and snag one. So my problem is the opposite… Barrels and no hand guards lol. Not that i need anymore uppers either. But then, what does "need" have to do with anything? [BD]

[n4p226r]

Now you have me nervous. Like I need to order 2 if they ever come out again

[GOST]

Wonder if there is a M-LOK NSR in the works?

[DutyUse]

Seems that way. I'm wondering if km might fall out of favor as more companies switch to Mlok.

[Deadwing]

Wonder if there is a M-LOK NSR in the works?

Seems like a logical progression. Is M-LOK open source like KeyMod is or is it proprietary and licensed?

[Deadwing]

Seems that way. I'm wondering if km might fall out of favor as more companies switch to Mlok.

I'm just starting to like the keymod system and buy accessories for it. I hope it doesn't fall out of favor too quickly. Hell, i still like quad rails lol.

[UWone77]

Good barrels are stupid expensive. I'll find a good deal now and then and snag one. So my problem is the opposite… Barrels and no hand guards lol. Not that i need anymore uppers either. But then, what does "need" have to do with anything? [BD]

Yeah, I usually stick with known good barrels (not that others aren't) but 90% of my barrels are DD, Noveske, BCM, or similar, like Rainier Ultramatch and Mountain barrels. Likely never to shoot out any of them, but I just can't bring myself to buy a $70 barrel from Anderson, or unknown barrel from XXX. You buy a couple of those and later I think, why didn't I just buy a handgun off my list?


Seems that way. I'm wondering if km might fall out of favor as more companies switch to Mlok.

You know, so far I've heard that keymod is still outselling and more popular than M-LOK. I think it's going to stay that way until Magpul has a full line of M-LOK accecssories.

[mustangfreek]

hahaha...70 dollar anderson barrels...those gotta be winners...lol...[BD]

[Deadwing]

Yeah, I usually stick with known good barrels (not that others aren't) but 90% of my barrels are DD, Noveske, BCM, or similar, like Rainier Ultramatch and Mountain barrels. Likely never to shoot out any of them, but I just can't bring myself to buy a $70 barrel from Anderson, or unknown barrel from XXX. You buy a couple of those and later I think, why didn't I just buy a handgun off my list?

Did somebody say new handgun?! [BD] Your choice in barrels mirrors mine almost exactly. I've got one of the NorthTech Defense barrels waiting for a build. I also have an FN made Spike's 16" middy that i got cheap and have run pretty hard. I haven't tried any of the offerings from Rainier Arms selection of barrels yet. Deffo on the want list. I've got a thing for quality. And i just don't see how anyone could put anywhere near the quality of a DD, BCM, or Noveske barrel for $70 lol.

[UWone77]

Did somebody say new handgun?! [BD] Your choice in barrels mirrors mine almost exactly. I've got one of the NorthTech Defense barrels waiting for a build. I also have an FN made Spike's 16" middy that i got cheap and have run pretty hard. I haven't tried any of the offerings from Rainier Arms selection of barrels yet. Deffo on the want list. I've got a thing for quality. And i just don't see how anyone could put anywhere near the quality of a DD, BCM, or Noveske barrel for $70 lol.

Hey maybe if we're lucky, mustangfreek will take the plunge and test out an Anderson $70 M4 barrel here pretty soon. [:D]

I just had 2 Rainier Arms 14.5 Mountain Barrels cut down to 10.3 because I didn't see any other option at this point to find CHF double chrome lined barrels in that length, other than to pay to cut them down. We'll see how they run shortly. After handing over the credit card, I was thinking, there goes my VP9 money... maybe later this year!

[Deadwing]

Hey maybe if we're lucky, mustangfreek will take the plunge and test out an Anderson $70 M4 barrel here pretty soon. [:D]

I just had 2 Rainier Arms 14.5 Mountain Barrels cut down to 10.3 because I didn't see any other option at this point to find CHF double chrome lined barrels in that length, other than to pay to cut them down. We'll see how they run shortly. After handing over the credit card, I was thinking, there goes my VP9 money... maybe later this year!

That's a test i'd be interested in seeing! :P Cut him loose with the Anderson barrel and a case of TulAmmo and enjoy the show. [BD]

Although not double chrome lined, i've been really happy with my DD 10.3 barrel. I'll be curious to see how your cut down barrels run. Are you going to have to tinker with gas port size on those?

As for the VP9, that pistol shoots like a dream. Striker-fired bliss! My P30 doesn't see much action since i brought the VP9 home. [:D]

[mustangfreek]

That's a test i'd be interested in seeing! :P Cut him loose with the Anderson barrel and a case of TulAmmo and enjoy the show. [BD]

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HAHAHA....

[UWone77]

That's a test i'd be interested in seeing! :P Cut him loose with the Anderson barrel and a case of TulAmmo and enjoy the show. [BD]

Although not double chrome lined, i've been really happy with my DD 10.3 barrel. I'll be curious to see how your cut down barrels run. Are you going to have to tinker with gas port size on those?

As for the VP9, that pistol shoots like a dream. Striker-fired bliss! My P30 doesn't see much action since i brought the VP9 home. [:D]

I'll let you know in about a week after, I get gas blocks pinned and built up on uppers. I don't imagine I'll have to play with the gas port at all.

[UWone77]

Not a NQR, or any handguard pictured, but I figured I'd drop this here.


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2966_zpsmhvkxtqg.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2966_zpsmhvkxtqg.jpg.html)

[Deadwing]

A thing of beauty...

[n4p226r]

what do you think of the earlier gen 3 with the laser engraving vs the new ones with the machined out logos. I love the machined out logo on top but seem to be more of a fan of the small laser engraved NOVESKE under the rail as opposed to on the side. Hopefully one day i'll see in person. the one bonus i assume is you can paint it without removing the manufacturers marks.

[n4p226r]

Hey maybe if we're lucky, mustangfreek will take the plunge and test out an Anderson $70 M4 barrel here pretty soon. [:D]

I just had 2 Rainier Arms 14.5 Mountain Barrels cut down to 10.3 because I didn't see any other option at this point to find CHF double chrome lined barrels in that length, other than to pay to cut them down. We'll see how they run shortly. After handing over the credit card, I was thinking, there goes my VP9 money... maybe later this year!

just find a 13.5 NSR in your parts bin and send it my way and some of your VP9 money could be put back in your account. we all know you have like 45 of them lying around

[n4p226r]

Bumping an old thread but I have a NQR coming finally. Can't wait

[UWone77]

Bumping an old thread but I have a NQR coming finally. Can't wait

Sweet... glad you could find one.

I'm waiting for SMOS's quad rails hopefully soon and see how they compare.

[n4p226r]

Their switchblock and fsp rails look real nice. This will be my first quad rail rifle. All my stuff is keymod with the exception of a Colt upper which has Colt carbine heat shield hand guards.

[Deadwing]

I still need a suitable rail for my 12.5" Noveske upper. I've got an 11" NSR on it now and it's just not doing it for me. DD needs to do another run of GL/SSC RIS IIs. Or Geissele needs to make the Mk8 in an 11.5" version.

[UWone77]

I still need a suitable rail for my 12.5" Noveske upper. I've got an 11" NSR on it now and it's just not doing it for me. DD needs to do another run of GL/SSC RIS IIs. Or Geissele needs to make the Mk8 in an 11.5" version.

GL/SSC.... Right... I'm sure they'll get right on that [BD]

They can't even sell RIS II rails separately !

[n4p226r]

GL/SSC.... Right... I'm sure they'll get right on that [BD]

They can't even sell RIS II rails separately !


Haha.

[n4p226r]

I still need a suitable rail for my 12.5" Noveske upper. I've got an 11" NSR on it now and it's just not doing it for me. DD needs to do another run of GL/SSC RIS IIs. Or Geissele needs to make the Mk8 in an 11.5" version.

Sounds like an 11" NQR would be nice. Don't even change the barrel nut

I can't wait to measure it in hand. The cross section of the NQR looks a lot like the RIS II. I hope that is an accurate assessment

[Deadwing]

GL/SSC.... Right... I'm sure they'll get right on that [BD]

They can't even sell RIS II rails separately !

I know, right?! Rainier Arms had a handful of FDE RIS II FSP rails a while back. I grabbed one for a future build just because. Too bad they're so scarce, as i really like them.

[UWone77]

Sounds like an 11" NQR would be nice. Don't even change the barrel nut

I can't wait to measure it in hand. The cross section of the NQR looks a lot like the RIS II. I hope that is an accurate assessment

I plan to snag one of those new SMOS cut out quads that will also accommodate a switchblock.

[n4p226r]

I plan to snag one of those new SMOS cut out quads that will also accommodate a switchblock.


You don't happen to have the height and width of the NQR available do you?

[n4p226r]

In stock on their website

[UWone77]

You don't happen to have the height and width of the NQR available do you?

About 2 1/4 Tall 2 1/8 wide

[n4p226r]

Thanks

[n4p226r]

anyone have a photo of the 9" NQR with a 16" barrel? also, is the 9" nqr actually 9.5" like a lot of other 9" rails?

[UWone77]

anyone have a photo of the 9" NQR with a 16" barrel? also, is the 9" nqr actually 9.5" like a lot of other 9" rails?

The NQR is like 9.15"

[Joelski]

What is the fuss about quad rails 10 years after they became available?

[n4p226r]

What is the fuss about quad rails 10 years after they became available?


I've only been into shooting sports for less than 8 years. My first rifle came with keymod so however many years ago that was. I made the mistake of trying a few cheap quad rails and you could practically cut yourself on the machining. I swore off quad rails at that time. Since then I've held quad rails from DD, centurion and a few others so I've realized they don't all suck. Add that to the fact that I don't have to remove the barrel nut if I want to swap out my NSR 13.5 which are on ALL of my rifles.

As for the length of the 9"NQR I'm considering SBRing a 6920. Kinda a mk18 style rifle. Wondering if I should get a NQR or centurion c4 since the DD is impossible to get.

[UWone77]

I've only been into shooting sports for less than 8 years. My first rifle came with keymod so however many years ago that was. I made the mistake of trying a few cheap quad rails and you could practically cut yourself on the machining. I swore off quad rails at that time. Since then I've held quad rails from DD, centurion and a few others so I've realized they don't all suck. Add that to the fact that I don't have to remove the barrel nut if I want to swap out my NSR 13.5 which are on ALL of my rifles.

As for the length of the 9"NQR I'm considering SBRing a 6920. Kinda a mk18 style rifle. Wondering if I should get a NQR or centurion c4 since the DD is impossible to get.

The Centurion 10" C4 has been solid for me, I probably have 3-4 uppers with the 10"

If you really want a MK18'ish RIS II look, then I'd suggest you just buy the complete DD upper. Otherwise, you'll want one anyway and end up getting that upper, plus the first one you built in an attempt to satisfy what you wanted.

[n4p226r]

For some reason the stupid laser engraving and the reports of insanely overgassed ports push me away. It'll be a while before I have to worry, my source for NFA items is moving back to NJ for a while.

[Joelski]

Do what feels good. The Navy will probably move the Mod x version to a slick sided rail faster than the Army's bloc x version.

As if a DBAL didn't make it hard enough to build a halfass decent replica, now they run Elcans!

[gatordev]

For some reason the stupid laser engraving and the reports of insanely overgassed ports push me away. It'll be a while before I have to worry, my source for NFA items is moving back to NJ for a while.

Did the method of getting a .gov barrel dry up? I thought some where sold to civilians for a while, but can't remember if that just went away or if it's still possible, you just have to know the right thing to ask for.

[Joelski]

Pretty sure you can get 10.3" Colt upper from several sources. I like the "silhouette" of the Mk-18, but I'm not going to go thousands of dollars and months of internet research to have a faithful to spec rifle. Mine looks the same, has good parts and lacking the DBAL and suppressor (for just a little while longer), looks just like a Mk-18 to all but those who've used them and the curators.

Heaps and tons of respect; absolutely no belittlement or diversion here to anybody that wants to build one, but if you ask most of the guys who used them, they had issues. You'll also get their ideas of what would work better. You'll rarely get a concourse list of what went into it from Crane or SOCOM.

The restoration industry has some crazy potential for people wanting to fix up beat to shit gear for this particular rifle alone. I wish I was a toaster repairman, cause those guys can print money for that old stuff!

I don't have OCD at all compared to nostalgics, buffs and restorers. There was a guy on another forum who figured he had north of 8 grand into his rifle. Granted, that's not hard to do, but its resto-old stuff at double the cost of advanced technology for the want of a perfect replica.

[Joelski]

Did the method of getting a .gov barrel dry up? I thought some where sold to civilians for a while, but can't remember if that just went away or if it's still possible, you just have to know the right thing to ask for.

Good luck getting the "Property of" roll stamp, but this is pretty much add an RIS-II or Centurion and ya done minus the goodies.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=LE6945CQB

[n4p226r]

Pretty sure you can get 10.3" Colt upper from several sources. I like the "silhouette" of the Mk-18, but I'm not going to go thousands of dollars and months of internet research to have a faithful to spec rifle. Mine looks the same, has good parts and lacking the DBAL and suppressor (for just a little while longer), looks just like a Mk-18 to all but those who've used them and the curators.

Heaps and tons of respect; absolutely no belittlement or diversion here to anybody that wants to build one, but if you ask most of the guys who used them, they had issues. You'll also get their ideas of what would work better. You'll rarely get a concourse list of what went into it from Crane or SOCOM.

The restoration industry has some crazy potential for people wanting to fix up beat to shit gear for this particular rifle alone. I wish I was a toaster repairman, cause those guys can print money for that old stuff!

I don't have OCD at all compared to nostalgics, buffs and restorers. There was a guy on another forum who figured he had north of 8 grand into his rifle. Granted, that's not hard to do, but its resto-old stuff at double the cost of advanced technology for the want of a perfect replica.


I'm not in need of a clone either. I'll probably end up with a 11.5" noveske with switchblock and quad rail after its all said and done

[gatordev]

Good luck getting the "Property of" roll stamp, but this is pretty much add an RIS-II or Centurion and ya done minus the goodies.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=LE6945CQB

Yeah...no. You're not reading what I'm writing. There are two basic "real" options for a CQBR (note: not "MK18"). one is a Colt upper, the other is a DD 10.3" upper. What I was asking had nothing to do with a property stamp, but rather a DoD DD barrel'ed upper, which has the correct gas port size. Yes, this is a thing. For a period of time, DD sold .gov barrel'ed uppers (or perhaps it was just the barrels) to the civvy side, but I think that's done now, hence why I was asking. Otherwise, a commercial DD 10.3" upper has the over-gassed "standard" that DD barrels have.

As an aside, a 6945 still requires a lot of work...more than a 6920 cut down by ADCO, I'd argue.


but if you ask most of the guys who used them, they had issues. You'll also get their ideas of what would work better. You'll rarely get a concourse list of what went into it from Crane or SOCOM.

I'm a bit baffled by this. There's multiple open-source accounts of what went into the original MK18. Maybe some had issues. I've deployed with several uits who had them and had no complaints. A properly configured CQBR will work just fine, and yes, there's an actual spec that makes this possible.

[Joelski]

It was arguably one of the most customized modern battle rifles. That was done initially by people just making their shit work. This stuff led to those specs, the quad rail in particular. I am not a historian, but I didn't read everything on the Internet either. You obviously have experience from the time it was developed and remember the needs generated by urban warfare.

[Joelski]

So the zillion dollar question is, with all the bitching about the DD being overgassed, why won't they change it? Does it serve some purpose in full military trim that makes it worth ignoring all the complaints? I'm not a gas system tweaker, so I only know there are tons of properly gassed configs out there, why dump their price into a finicky upper?

[UWone77]

I'm not in need of a clone either. I'll probably end up with a 11.5" noveske with switchblock and quad rail after its all said and done

Are they offering 11.5 SB uppers?

[JGifford]

I do not understand clones, really. Lots of stuff about the MK18 is either very specialized, or could be/has been improved by the civilian market. I personally got away from SBR's.

[gatordev]

So the zillion dollar question is, with all the bitching about the DD being overgassed, why won't they change it? Does it serve some purpose in full military trim that makes it worth ignoring all the complaints? I'm not a gas system tweaker, so I only know there are tons of properly gassed configs out there, why dump their price into a finicky upper?

Over-gassing it makes it less finicky for the civilian market. It allows a wider range of ammo to be used, specifically, weaker (and usually cheaper) ammo. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but personally, like you, I'd rather just roll with a spec'ed gas port.

[SINNER]

Good luck getting the "Property of" roll stamp, but this is pretty much add an RIS-II or Centurion and ya done minus the goodies.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=LE6945CQB

Monolithic upper. Not just adding any rail to that weapon.

[JGifford]

Over-gassing it makes it less finicky for the civilian market. It allows a wider range of ammo to be used, specifically, weaker (and usually cheaper) ammo. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but personally, like you, I'd rather just roll with a spec'ed gas port.

I disagree. I have had plenty of function issues suppressing an already over-gassed weapon.

[UWone77]

I disagree. I have had plenty of function issues suppressing an already over-gassed weapon.

I don't think they gear it to shooters like you. He means for those guys shooting the cheapest steel cased, underpowered ammo they can find. Those guys also aren't shooting suppressed.

[Joelski]

Makes sense until you get to the part about this isn't a gun the average Joe blow would buy, is it? Seems like more guys buying in that price range would be sticking with a LaRue.

[UWone77]

Makes sense until you get to the part about this isn't a gun the average Joe blow would buy, is it? Seems like more guys buying in that price range would be sticking with a LaRue.

I don't know... I see a lot of guys, including friends of mine who will spend thousands on the best rifle they can afford. Only to get zero training, and shoot the cheapest ammo they can find twice a year. I think they find more enjoyment breaking it out of the safe and showing their friends how "milspec" it is, and "all the SF guys are using this."

I see that in the clone guys too. They will spend unlimited amounts of money building the exact replica, but that's the whole fun with it for them. Just the build. They don't shoot it, so they don't care if the gas ports are oversized or that their DD barrel will burn out quickly.

[gatordev]

I disagree. I have had plenty of function issues suppressing an already over-gassed weapon.

Good point. As UW said, I wasn't thinking suppressed shooting, just common range plinking and mag dumps with some cheap ammo.

Not that those can't be fun things to do occasionally.

[gatordev]

I see that in the clone guys too. They will spend unlimited amounts of money building the exact replica, but that's the whole fun with it for them. Just the build. They don't shoot it, so they don't care if the gas ports are oversized or that their DD barrel will burn out quickly.

Well put. I really enjoyed researching information for a couple of the near-clones I've built. Add to that having deployed with guys using the MK18, it was fun to finally own one I could play with. Then again, none of my rifles are completely correct because I can't stand just owning one and not shooting it, so some of my parts make the gun more useful to me (and/or save some money). In the end, I guess I fail the clone game but win the satisfaction game.

[Joelski]

I don't shoot badguys, but I shoot the hell out of damn near anything legal to put a hole in on my little chunk of heaven, including groundhogs, coyotes, dirt clods, beer cans, and ocassionally targets.

[Joelski]

And when my buddy the sheriff asks why I need* something like my Mk 18 pseudo-clone I say #1: America and #2: because it's f@cking cool looking and I want one. Same thing I put on my form 1! [:D]


*UW see that's really a wife question, not a cop question.

[BoilerUp]

I don't know... I see a lot of guys, including friends of mine who will spend thousands on the best rifle they can afford. Only to get zero training, and shoot the cheapest ammo they can find twice a year. I think they find more enjoyment breaking it out of the safe and showing their friends how "milspec" it is, and "all the SF guys are using this."

I see that in the clone guys too. They will spend unlimited amounts of money building the exact replica, but that's the whole fun with it for them. Just the build. They don't shoot it, so they don't care if the gas ports are oversized or that their DD barrel will burn out quickly.

That's a good observation. Ultimately this is a hobby for most all of us. As such, we all have our own take on why we enjoy it and what we find interesting. No wrong or right, although still plenty of room for questionable judgment. :)

[UWone77]

Well put. I really enjoyed researching information for a couple of the near-clones I've built. Add to that having deployed with guys using the MK18, it was fun to finally own one I could play with. Then again, none of my rifles are completely correct because I can't stand just owning one and not shooting it, so some of my parts make the gun more useful to me (and/or save some money). In the end, I guess I fail the clone game but win the satisfaction game.

Not a big clone guy myself, but I do like the MK18, MK12, Block 1/2 inspired rifle.

Stick and I did get lucky enough to snag mil contract DD MK18 and M4A1 uppers without the silly markings on the side and with the correct gas ports several years back.

[alamo5000]

I don't know... I see a lot of guys, including friends of mine who will spend thousands on the best rifle they can afford. Only to get zero training, and shoot the cheapest ammo they can find twice a year. I think they find more enjoyment breaking it out of the safe and showing their friends how "milspec" it is, and "all the SF guys are using this."

I see that in the clone guys too. They will spend unlimited amounts of money building the exact replica, but that's the whole fun with it for them. Just the build. They don't shoot it, so they don't care if the gas ports are oversized or that their DD barrel will burn out quickly.

I think there are different types of folks doing what they do for a variety of reasons, but I agree with what you say 100%.

Some people just want 'stuff'...just like they want that Harley in their garage even though they ride once every 3 months (if they are lucky), or buy the most expensive ski boat they can find only to not be able to ski (or they take a trip to the lake twice a summer).

While I personally don't get off on that stuff some of those guys (and girls) are pretty annoying regardless if it's about guns or whatever.

There are reasons to buy more expensive things, but doing so to get a pat on the back isn't a good enough reason for me.

[JGifford]

I don't think they gear it to shooters like you. He means for those guys shooting the cheapest steel cased, underpowered ammo they can find. Those guys also aren't shooting suppressed.

Then they can include mil-spec carbine springs and a carbine buffer. Should function just fine, even with cheap crap. My 16.1" middy DDM4 will run Wolf with a 6.8oz buffer and Green spring from Sprinco, unsuppressed, as an example. It has a 0.074ish gas-port.

[alamo5000]

That's a good observation. Ultimately this is a hobby for most all of us. As such, we all have our own take on why we enjoy it and what we find interesting. No wrong or right, although still plenty of room for questionable judgment. :)

Bingo!

For me I will borrow a bit of experience from when I used to competitively waterski (I had to quit because of injury)...

I bought a ski rope that cost me like $150 bucks once, not including the handle. My non skiing friends were always giving me a hard time about it. But little did they know that not all ropes are the same. Your cheap Wal Mart rope costs $25 bucks, but when you put it under tension they stretch like a rubber band. A 75 foot rope will become an 80 foot rope and stretch around while you are back behind the boat. Not good for things requiring a whole lot of balance.

My $150 dollar rope on the other hand didn't have this problem...that $150 bucks made the difference if you made a trick or didn't or in some case if you went to the hospital or not. Getting pulled around at high speeds isn't always the most safe thing.

The same thing applies to shooting or anything else that requires skill. In the case of the rope, having a crappy rope actually does prevent you from improving as an athlete.

Hence I guess it just depends on who is getting what and why...but some things really do make a difference and others... not so much.