Battle Arms Development Forged Lower Receiver

[UWone77]

Previously, we've released some sneak peek photos that Battle Arms Development (http://shop.battlearmsdevelopment.com/main.sc) has released of their Lower Receiver, but I'll start a new thread for these receivers.

We’ve known for a while now that Battle Arms Development (http://shop.battlearmsdevelopment.com/main.sc) would be introducing a new Forged Lower Receiver held to their strict tolerances, featuring their new BAD logo and obviously compatible with their BAD-ASS-ST and BAD-CASS-ST short throw selectors. They just got the first shipment back from plating and they look awesome. (pics below) The first run is going to be sold through Rainier Arms (http://www.rainierarms.com).

I'll update this thread with more pictures once I get my own BAD Lower in hand.


Features:


Battle Arms hold themselves to a high standard of quality for everything they make. This is especially true with their lower receivers. The forgings are of the highest quality. They control all factors to make it that way. The roll mark with their new logo is done with a 3D laser engraver that they do in-house. The receiver extension threads are helical. All of the pin holes are reamed rather than drilled. The flared mag well is cut using wire EDM and there is no flashing or rough areas. All of this adds up in time and money spent that gives them a lower receiver that has the quality that is on a Battle Arms Development level.



Specifications:


Mil-spec dimensions and holes.
7075 T6 aluminum.
Mil-spec type 3 hard anodizing.
High quality and tested forgings.
3D laser engraved roll mark with Battle Arms’ new logo.
All pin holes are reamed rather than drilled.
Helical rear receiver extension threads (not drilled and tapped).
Wire EDM cut flared mag well.
Selector stops have been removed.
45 degree safety selector compatible


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/Battle-Arms-Development-Forged-AR-15-Lower-1_zpsaeba3732.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/Battle-Arms-Development-Forged-AR-15-Lower-1_zpsaeba3732.jpg.html)
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[Aragorn]

Whoa. That logo is smoking.

[rob_s]

Those look very nicely done. Any idea on price?

[Computalotapus]

These might make it to the pistol and SBR build. Very interested on what the price point is going to be
Sent from my Windows Phone 8.1

[mustangfreek]

Nice...But i have seen these pics already...when are these mofos gonna make it out there for sale..

[browcs]

Those look great.

[Uffdaphil]

Love 'em. They ought to sell them with a Battle Arms parts kit.

[voodoo_man]

http://procrasti-nation.eu/wp-content/uploads/Shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg

[UWone77]

Those look very nicely done. Any idea on price?

No clue on cost. I'm guessing these won't be your standard $100 forged lower.

[Hmac]

Very interested in this lower receiver. It would be an excellent vehicle to mount the Rainier upper that I won here. I've always been a big fan of BAD. I'm kind of hoping for a little heads up here on WEVO when these things hit the market.

[UWone77]

Looks like these are dropping next week at Rainier. As for pricing, all they would say is, it would be less than $250. I guess we will all know more next week!

[UWone77]

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/battle-arms-development-lower-packaging_zps9f3ec15c.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/battle-arms-development-lower-packaging_zps9f3ec15c.jpg.html)

[FortTom]

Whoa. That logo is smoking.
Normally, I don't get too worked up over logo's, I think a lot of them are a bit silly, but yeah, Aragorn, I'm with you on this one; this one is stand out cool...

FT

[Computalotapus]

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/battle-arms-development-lower-packaging_zps9f3ec15c.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/battle-arms-development-lower-packaging_zps9f3ec15c.jpg.html)

yep don't like you that much right now.. /jealous

[GOST]

Since your showing off UW how about PMing us when these become available at RA.[:D]

[UWone77]

Since your showing off UW how about PMing us when these become available at RA.[:D]

You can put down the haterade. I don't have one yet. That's just a picture they posted on what the retail packaging looks like.

Pure speculation, but if I had to guess, these are going to be $225.

[GOST]

I'm gonna guess $189.

[mustangfreek]

Hummm...need one of these and one of the new RA lowers.....

[Liberal_Strong]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/641/298/448.jpg

oh my...my oh my..

[GOST]

You can put down the haterade. I don't have one yet. That's just a picture they posted on what the retail packaging looks like.

Pure speculation, but if I had to guess, these are going to be $225.

Can't put it down, I keep it glued to my hands.

[GOST]

These lowers have went live at Rainier Arms for $198.55.

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4631

[UWone77]

These lowers have went live at Rainier Arms for $198.55.

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4631

Cheaper than I thought, I think they'll be pretty competitive and sell well even in this market.

[UWone77]

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/IMG_2187_zps49c52535.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/IMG_2187_zps49c52535.jpg.html)

[GOST]

UW which brand uppers match up best with it?

[UWone77]

UW which brand uppers match up best with it?

I don't know what's going to be the "best" but it's going to have to be one that's very deep black in color, like a VLTOR MUR, Mega, or Rainier Billet. I can take a few shots with various uppers down the road when I get a minute.

[UWone77]

Fresh out of the box including cardboard debris...

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/IMG_2182_zpsaac59465.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/IMG_2182_zpsaac59465.jpg.html)
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[rob_s]

Nice looking engraving.

I'd buy one if I saw it locally. I'm kind of over dealing with transfer nonsense for just a lower.

[Hmac]

I have one of these on the way to my LGS. I was going to use the Rainier upper receiver that I won here to just build an upper but I guess I'll just finish off a rifle. I'll probably get it engraved for NFA while I'm gathering parts and send off a Form 1.

[GOST]

Probably gonna form 1 mine also.

[UWone77]

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/17a8c49678a337387a8a7cc4c4e23094_zpsdaf5fc2f.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/17a8c49678a337387a8a7cc4c4e23094_zpsdaf5fc2f.jpg.h tml)
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/UWone77/8778a484b05a108c280c46b3c5486df8_zps709c6660.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/UWone77/media/8778a484b05a108c280c46b3c5486df8_zps709c6660.jpg.h tml)
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[MoxyDave]

Normally I'm not a fan of super busy roll marks, but this one looks pretty nice. Probably because it's laser engraved rather than an actual roll mark [:)]

[rob_s]

Normally I'm not a fan of super busy roll marks, but this one looks pretty nice. Probably because it's laser engraved rather than an actual roll mark [:)]

Do lasers go that deep? I thought it looked like regular engraving. I don't know much about the subject though. Anyone else know for sure?

[UWone77]

Battle Arms has said this is a laser engraved logo.

[rob_s]

Hmmm, learn something new. I didn't know lasers were capable of that kind of engraving.

I hope to stumble on one of these lowers locally.

[Gator]

Normally I'm not a fan of super busy roll marks, but this one looks pretty nice. Probably because it's laser engraved rather than an actual roll mark [:)]

My thoughts exactly. I prefer as simple a logo/rollmark as possible but this one is just sharp. Too perfect and, i'd wager to say, impossible to replicate on cnc.

[Hmac]

I bought this BAD receiver based on what I suspect is going to end up being superior engineering and attention to quality, as well as price and availability, things that I perceive as being lacking in my heretofore go-to manufacturer these days. That, and the Rainier upper receiver and BCG that I recently won here. Checking my SPAM box, the BAD lower is being delivered to my LGS on Monday. I confess I don't really have a purpose for the build yet. My original thought was some kind of SPR for 3-gun, but the local 3-gun organization is kind of collapsing around here, so I will probably just go ahead and send in a Form 1 so I can have maximum flexibility.

My experience with BAD has been stellar, in design, engineering, and customer service. I see that the receiver should be delivered Monday. Still not sure about a barrel or an FCG yet, but I do know what I'm going to do about a safety selector.

[UWone77]

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2226_zpsbcf8612a.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2226_zpsbcf8612a.jpg.html)

[GOST]

UW what endplate is that?

[UWone77]

UW what endplate is that?

GOST,

That's a Gear Sector End Plate. Had to use a different end plate as either the receiver or the mil-spec end plate I attempted to use with my kit was out of spec. Just eyeballing it, it appears that the hole in the BAD receiver is more circular than oval, so some end plates may need to be tapped in with a rubber mallet.

[GOST]

Thanks UW. Speaking of Gear Sector, where's that handguard?

[mustangfreek]

Back in stock at rainier Arms...

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4631

[Hmac]

Do I understand correctly that this BAD lower is compatible with the BAD ASS-ST 45 degree selector without modifying the receiver?

[UWone77]

Do I understand correctly that this BAD lower is compatible with the BAD ASS-ST 45 degree selector without modifying the receiver?

That's correct. Has the cutout for the 45 degree selector. The 45 degree is going away of the dinosaur, I can't remember, but they're going to go 50-60 degree selectors later this year.

[Hmac]

Ok. Good tip. Guess I'll go with the ol' standby. Thanks.

[GOST]

Is it true that the 45 degree selector is going away do to it's compatibility with some triggers like the TTU?

[UWone77]

Is it true that the 45 degree selector is going away do to it's compatibility with some triggers like the TTU?

I'm not sure on the reasoning why 45 degree selectors are going away, but I just know that they are.

[Hmac]

So far...

I opted for an ALG ACT FCG and a BAD ASS 90 degree with cranks and an A5 receiver extension and buffer system. The rest are parts I had sitting around. I did try a Seekins "enhanced" bolt catch but the hole wasn't big enough to prevent binding on the roll pin. When I measured it, it was a few thousandths off. It will be cheaper to just drill it rather than send it back. The upper is a BCM blem I had in the drawer -- fits perfectly. Still haven't decided on a barrel yet. Very interested in a Sionics melanite, but haven't seen any long term use info on them yet.

http://ssequine.net/BAD uppers.jpg

[GOST]

Looks good Hmac, what stock and rail are you going with?

[Hmac]

Stock will probably be a CTR. I have one on an SBR and like it fine. Barrel, forearm and optic will be defined by the rifle's purpose, once I decide what that is. I'm kind of interested in the Giessele rails and Sionics barrels. My only 16 inch rifle has a VIS upper and it's kind of heavy.

[GOST]

I've got a 13" Geissele MK4 on a 14.5". My BAD-15 lower is going to be a 11.5". I'm considering a 10.75" URX4 and the CMR, but I've got sometime to kill.

[UWone77]

Hmac, is that lower on the Rainier Upper you got from the last giveaway?

GOST, that's the same upper that RA used in the picture with the Battle Arms Lower. Looks like they match up pretty well. In my opinion the Battle Arms lower has the same type of finish as the Mega Forged Receivers. Mega doesn't do the Mil-Spec RA uppers, but surprisingly they still match decently.

If you can wait, Battle Arms is going to eventually put out an upper, and a Billet Ambi Lower.

[Hmac]

Hmac, is that lower on the Rainier Upper you got from the last giveaway?



Actually not. That RA upper was the first one I tried, and it almost fit this lower, but not quite. Had to pound the takedown pin in, so I went with the one above...a BCM blem that I picked up a year or so ago. Probably, when push comes to shove and I actually decide on a barrel, I'll assemble the upper on the RA that I won. The takedown pin will wear in just fine, I'm sure.

[mustangfreek]

If you can wait, Battle Arms is going to eventually put out an upper, and a Billet Ambi Lower.



Oh man why did you have to say that.....wonder how long till this matching upper will be till it's available? ..I wish i had the extra scratch to pick one of these up like the clean look of this lower...and now even more knowing a matching upper is coming..

[GOST]

I was considering either a Mega forged or a RA gen2, and now BAD has their own coming out. Not only does BAD make the best selectors their customer service is second to none, Roger and George are the best.

[GOST]

Even their business cards rock.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3836/14996592040_165bc4c579_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/123747005@N02/14996592040/) image (https://www.flickr.com/photos/123747005@N02/14996592040/) by gostsystems (https://www.flickr.com/people/123747005@N02/), on Flickr

[six8]

Even their business cards rock.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3836/14996592040_165bc4c579_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/123747005@N02/14996592040/) image (https://www.flickr.com/photos/123747005@N02/14996592040/) by gostsystems (https://www.flickr.com/people/123747005@N02/), on Flickr
That's bad ass

[Thompson]

Even their business cards rock.
Wow - what's that made out of? Aluminum?

[DutyUse]

Not sure which is sexier, this BA lower or the Gen 3 Noveske.

[GOST]

Wow - what's that made out of? Aluminum?

Not sure, but it's heavier than aluminum.

[GOST]

Not sure which is sexier, this BA lower or the Gen 3 Noveske.

I have both and My vote is for the BAD-15. The Gen 3 is very nice but i like the Gen 2 better considering that it's $75 cheaper.

[rob_s]

I'm not sure on the reasoning why 45 degree selectors are going away, but I just know that they are.

Wait, whut?

by "going away" are we talking about no longer offering for sale?

I don't have any interest in titanium takedown pins, and I need another lower like I need a bag on my hip, but I actually LIKE the 45* selectors... and they are certainly more useful than some gimpy aftermarket trigger....

[rob_s]

These lowers look to have a pretty good bevel on the magwell. I've been going through the safe, looking at assembling a few parts I have laying around into one ninja lower, and the Accurate Armory is the one I have with the most/best bevel to the magwell. Any chance of a shot straight-on to the magwell, looking up from the bottom, to gauge the amount of bevel?

[bzdog]

If I understood correctly, they'll have something similar to the 45, they are just changing the angle slightly. Haven't heard any suggestions why the new angle is "better" tho.

-john

[GOST]

UW posted that the new short throws will be somewhere between 50 and 60 degrees, but I'm with Rob on this one I guess I better buy another 45 before they're gone.

[UWone77]

These lowers look to have a pretty good bevel on the magwell. I've been going through the safe, looking at assembling a few parts I have laying around into one ninja lower, and the Accurate Armory is the one I have with the most/best bevel to the magwell. Any chance of a shot straight-on to the magwell, looking up from the bottom, to gauge the amount of bevel?


http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/richdkim77/IMG_2233_zps03464923.jpg (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/richdkim77/media/IMG_2233_zps03464923.jpg.html)

[GOST]

Apparently we're behind the curve, the new 50 degree short throw selectors from Battle Arms Development are already out.

http://shop.battlearmsdevelopment.com/5-BAD-ASS-ST-AMBI-SAFETY-SELECTOR-SHORT-THROW-50-BAD-ASS-ST.htm

[titanse05]

The change on the BAD-ASS-ST from 45-50 was made to ensure compatibility with Wilson Combat's line of triggers. That change was made quite some time ago but isn't really a noticeable change.

They won't be changing it again as far as I understand.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4

[rob_s]

Thanks for the pic of the magwell.

[UWone77]

Wait, whut?

by "going away" are we talking about no longer offering for sale?

I don't have any interest in titanium takedown pins, and I need another lower like I need a bag on my hip, but I actually LIKE the 45* selectors... and they are certainly more useful than some gimpy aftermarket trigger....

Like GOST mentioned the 50 degree selectors are now out and will be replacing the 45 degree. Most won't really notice a difference in the 5 degrees. If you're wondering why, my understanding was Battle Arms decided to go from 45 to 50 because of compatibility with some drop in triggers. The Wilson Combat TTU-3G at the time was pretty popular but because some people complained that with the 45 you could force it to fire even when on safe.

[DutyUse]

The noveske 60 degree selector would work fine with this lower correct, just slightly off on the marking?

Ambi safeties rub my finger raw normally so I've gotten quite use to the noveske 60 single side selector.

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/FamilyFord23/IMG_0675.jpg (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/FamilyFord23/media/IMG_0675.jpg.html)
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[Cmcconnell0300]

That's sick. Post another pic when it comes together please.

[Hmac]

So far...

I opted for an ALG ACT FCG and a BAD ASS 90 degree with cranks and an A5 receiver extension and buffer system. The rest are parts I had sitting around. I did try a Seekins "enhanced" bolt catch but the hole wasn't big enough to prevent binding on the roll pin. When I measured it, it was a few thousandths off. It will be cheaper to just drill it rather than send it back. The upper is a BCM blem I had in the drawer -- fits perfectly. Still haven't decided on a barrel yet. Very interested in a Sionics melanite, but haven't seen any long term use info on them yet.

http://ssequine.net/BAD uppers.jpg

I decided to skip the Sionics barrel....they tell me that they don't have enough of a track record to comment on longevity of the barrel (throat erosion, gas port erosion). The whole melonite process is complicated enough that I think I'll pay the $100 premium and go with an Adams Arms/Voodoo barrel. I'm sure the Sionics barrels are accurate....I'm also interested in longevity.

[Rotten]

UW posted that the new short throws will be somewhere between 50 and 60 degrees, but I'm with Rob on this one I guess I better buy another 45 before they're gone.



You can still by the 45 degree center section separately. I'll probably get one since I have several extra levers and can sell a 90 degree kit complete this way. With any luck they will go on sale now.

[GOST]

From BAD's Facebook page:

BAD-15 PREMIUM FORGED LOWER RECEIVERS ARE SHIPPING!!! ☆ ☆ ☆ NEW GEN2 LOWERS COMES WITH TENSION SCREW, CAPTIVE TAKEDOWN PIN DENT SPRING SCREW, AND BOLT CATCH SCREW! ALSO RELIEF CUT FOR OUR LATEST REVERSIBLE AMBI SAFETY SELECTOR. ALL AT NO PRICE INCREASE!

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12043113_1012439265443381_1167744231718842968_n.jp g?oh=7a3ddd570b9d3bba1fe1b45bf73dea6e&oe=56980CA9

[Pyzik]

From BAD's Facebook page:

BAD-15 PREMIUM FORGED LOWER RECEIVERS ARE SHIPPING!!! ☆ ☆ ☆ NEW GEN2 LOWERS COMES WITH TENSION SCREW, CAPTIVE TAKEDOWN PIN DENT SPRING SCREW, AND BOLT CATCH SCREW! ALSO RELIEF CUT FOR OUR LATEST REVERSIBLE AMBI SAFETY SELECTOR. ALL AT NO PRICE INCREASE!

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12043113_1012439265443381_1167744231718842968_n.jp g?oh=7a3ddd570b9d3bba1fe1b45bf73dea6e&oe=56980CA9

Saw that. Want even more now.

[Joelski]

I didn't need to see this...

[din]

I didn't need to see this...

Counterpoint: yes, you did.

[jonpac07]

Sweet

[Joelski]

Counterpoint: yes, you did.

I agree wholeheartedly. My accounting department is reminding me that I have two builds cooking... :D

[titanse05]

Only improvement left is an integral trigger guard. I'll buy one when that happens. :)

[mustangfreek]

Saw that. Want even more now.

Same here..

[Mecha_Arms]

I don't need another lower, but I've been regretting not buying one of these when they first came out.

May have to jump on this.

[GOST]

GEN 2 lowers now available at BAD.

http://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/products/new-products/

[Mecha_Arms]

GEN 2 lowers now available at BAD.

http://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/products/new-products/

From BAD:

NEW GEN 2 FEATURES:
Easy in Install Set Screw Bolt Catch Pin (Pin Included)
Captured Takedown Pin Detent Spring (Set Screw Included)
Upper/Lower Receiver Tension Screw (Screw included)