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alamo5000
29 October 2014, 21:33
In the course of my build I had to select an optic. I already bought it, and made a choice as to what I thought would be the best bang for the buck (for now).

Later up the road I might invest in a more costly optic.

I got this:

http://www.bushnell.com/tactical/rifle-scopes/ar-optics/1-4x-24mm-throw-down-pcl

Now my question is about proper mounting.

I don't want to scrimp on the scope rings... and just one option that I see is made by Seekins.

They have 30mm scope rings that look pretty good.

Yet they come in various heights.

http://www.seekinsprecision.com/parts-and-accessories/scope-rings/scope-rings-30mm-tube.html


What is the proper mounting style/height for this kind of optic on an AR platform?

I am way out of my league here folks. Someone please chime in.

alamo5000
29 October 2014, 21:38
My stock is a Magpul ACS-L Carbine Stock.

The AR will be flat top.

alamo5000
29 October 2014, 21:44
Any other kind of scope rings/mounts will be fine too... I don't have a preference other than it not be cheap Chinese knock off crap that will strip out. But not quick release. Not so much my thing. (For now)

They don't have to be expensive, just effective.

UWone77
29 October 2014, 21:45
For the money, if I were you I would go with a scope mount to take a lot of the guesswork out.

Aero Precision makes an affordable 30mm mount as your optic had a 30mm tube

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=213

alamo5000
29 October 2014, 21:48
For the money, if I were you I would go with a scope mount to take a lot of the guesswork out.

Aero Precision makes an affordable 30mm mount as your optic had a 30mm tube

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=213


That looks excellent!!

I have never mounted a scope on an AR platform (on other rifles yes, but not an AR) and seeing how it's configured differently I don't know what the hell I am doing. I am simply lost.

I will definitely take a close look at your recommendation for sure. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go single piece mount or two rings.... not sure if it matters for the kind of optic and the platform.

alamo5000
29 October 2014, 21:56
In this video he's using the same exact scope with the same exact mount.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2NMUM5tAZk

Ride4frnt
29 October 2014, 21:57
That looks excellent!!

I have never mounted a scope on an AR platform (on other rifles yes, but not an AR) and seeing how it's configured differently I don't know what the hell I am doing. I am simply lost.

I will definitely take a close look at your recommendation for sure. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go single piece mount or two rings.... not sure if it matters for the kind of optic and the platform.

Get the aero. It's light. It's solid. Everything you need, nothing you don't. I just put one on my 18" build that I finished two weeks ago. One word of advice though, get the SPR length, it will serve you better in the eye relief department. My extended model was VERY close to leaving the rear end of the scope too far back for me to acquire a good sight picture.

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s374/blue94dc4/IMG_2492_zpsd0481a9b.jpg

alamo5000
29 October 2014, 22:00
Aero it is!

Now, they have two versions....

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=199

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=207

Which one for my optic?

Actually 3

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=213

WHSmithIV
29 October 2014, 22:04
I don't think I'd go with 2 rings on it. A single ring mount or a dual ring mount will work. Vortex has a cantilever 30mm mount for their Strikefire red dots that's certainly affordable. It should work with that Bushnell too. I'd take a measurement of the mounting area to be sure that it wouldn't interfere with the adjustments.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-cantilever-30mm-ring-1-inch-offset-absolute-co-witness

Ride4frnt
29 October 2014, 22:04
Aero it is!

Now, they have two versions....

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=199

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=207

Which one for my optic?

SPR model for sure. It will work the best with your optic and give you plenty of space to work with the eye relief.

Uffdaphil
29 October 2014, 22:04
I almost never see two individual rings on an AR. Maybe for a long barrel hunter. That Aero looks like a great budget mount. Later, if you feel the urge to splurge, consider the extended Bobros. IMO worth the extra over ADM. Many swear by Larue, but the way it grates on the rail also grates on me.

http://www.bobroengineering.com/view/product/8/

WHSmithIV
29 October 2014, 22:07
Aero it is!

Now, they have two versions....

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=199

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=207

Which one for my optic?

Actually 3

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=213

Ride4 recommends above that you should get the 2nd one which is the SPR length.

Ride4frnt
29 October 2014, 22:12
For reference, the mount in the pic I posted is the extended model, the first length you posted. It is all the way forward on the upper, and the scope is as far forward in the rings as it could go. The SPR model extends the front and back rings out one inch to give you additional room to move the scope to where it needs to be for you.

alamo5000
29 October 2014, 22:13
Now where to find the SPR length one in stock where I can buy it :)

Any help? I'm googling...

Thanks a million you guys...

Ride4frnt
29 October 2014, 22:27
Now where to find the SPR length one in stock where I can buy it :)

Any help? I'm googling...

Thanks a million you guys...

That may prove a bit more difficult. I haven't found one online yet, I was looking to swap my extended out.

Call Aero in the morning and ask them if they have any idea when they'll be back in stock, or if they have any idea how to track one down. I've heard their CS is very pleasant to work with.

Ride4frnt
29 October 2014, 22:30
Since you are using an extendable stock, you could probably get away with the extended model. I have a fixed stock on my gun so it's not as easy to get further away from the back of the scope.

alamo5000
29 October 2014, 22:35
That may prove a bit more difficult. I haven't found one online yet, I was looking to swap my extended out.

Call Aero in the morning and ask them if they have any idea when they'll be back in stock, or if they have any idea how to track one down. I've heard their CS is very pleasant to work with.


The part looks amazing. If I can find one I would buy it right now (plus I trust you guys)....

Are there anything competing/similar out there that might not be the ultra light weight variety???

SGT.G
29 October 2014, 23:28
Might I suggest a larue mount? A bit pricey but totally worth it imo

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/29/39db1b9336c0b31d9b73c69f48e0fb69.jpg

mustangfreek
30 October 2014, 01:29
For the money, if I were you I would go with a scope mount to take a lot of the guesswork out.

Aero Precision makes an affordable 30mm mount as your optic had a 30mm tube

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=213

For a good, budget oriented Mount, I would have to agree..I have a Aero mount on loan and it has worked perfectly so far..

Here is my rough, newbie'ish review..of it.. http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?6133-Aero-Precision-Ultra-Light-30mm-Scope-Mount&highlight=

Ride4frnt
30 October 2014, 04:37
I've really never seen anything around that price range from a manufacturer like Aero. ADM you're looking at 160 bucks at least, and it is QD which you don't won't. Larue is still expensive, QD or not. Maybe a Burris PEPR. The primary arms mounts are even cheaper than the aero. I cannot attest to their quality but id imagine it would get the job done in a pinch

alamo5000
30 October 2014, 16:57
Well dang it... I must say.... I searched high and low for the SPR version of the AERO precision mount.

First thing this morning i called and said that they weren't in stock anywhere online... and within about an hour the girl had emailed me back and said the website should now be listed as 'in stock' and that I could order one....

I got mine on the way :)

Aero really did prove to me today that they have great attitudes, are very helpful, and are just great people with truly great customer service.

If anyone here has contacts with any brass at AERO please pass on my compliments to them and to "Jessica" who was just awesome.

UWone77
30 October 2014, 17:03
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/30/aero-precision-ultralight-scope-mount/#

Ride4frnt
30 October 2014, 17:12
Well dang it... I must say.... I searched high and low for the SPR version of the AERO precision mount.

First thing this morning i called and said that they weren't in stock anywhere online... and within about an hour the girl had emailed me back and said the website should now be listed as 'in stock' and that I could order one....

I got mine on the way :)

Aero really did prove to me today that they have great attitudes, are very helpful, and are just great people with truly great customer service.

If anyone here has contacts with any brass at AERO please pass on my compliments to them and to "Jessica" who was just awesome.

Told ya! Their CS is top notch. I will most likely be buying my pistol barrel through them as well.

One thing though, when I got my mount, I didn't get the little torx driver in the box. It's not a huge deal as I was gonna use my torx screwdrivers anyways, but dangit I paid $90 for that screwdriver, the mount was just supposed to be extra in the box.

All joking aside man, I can't wait to see your project.

FortTom
30 October 2014, 17:24
For the money, if I were you I would go with a scope mount to take a lot of the guesswork out.

Aero Precision makes an affordable 30mm mount as your optic had a 30mm tube

http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=213

I second this. My buddy's got the same mount. As a matter of fact it may be gifted to me soon for a varmint rifle I'm putting together, if I get a 30mm Scope. Pretty slick and light weight, and no QD needed for a dedicated varmint gun that wont wear any other optics.

alamo5000
30 October 2014, 17:40
All joking aside man, I can't wait to see your project.

Me either LOL!!!!

I think this thing is going to be right on the money (I hope)... I put a substantial amount of thought into what I will use and how I will be using it....

I am excited!!! I just need to hurry up the post office and Fed Ex people... LOL

FortTom
30 October 2014, 18:50
I also saw the Burris P.E.P.R. mentioned. I've got one that's going to be re-allocated to my AR-10. Great mount, excellent repeatability when removed, re-mounted, QD. Down side. It's heavy for a scope mount. Just a thought.

FT

tuckerman725
30 October 2014, 20:37
Another option is the AD Recon

tact
31 October 2014, 16:46
Another option is the AD Recon

+2 for the ADM Recon.