PDA

View Full Version : Shooting SBR's other than the AR platform



UWone77
15 November 2014, 08:25
I'm looking to build a new SBR but in something other than the AR platform. This will mainly be a range toy, so I'm looking at possibly a MP5 clone or possibly even a Glock Carbine.

After looking at some various Glock Carbine Kits, they all seem like crap. Anyone have any experience with them?

As far as building a MP5, I've been over at HKPro many times over the years and of course there are a plethora of options. I know Stick has been in the process of doing one. Anyone have a MP5?

Thanks.

Ride4frnt
15 November 2014, 08:38
Would love an mp5, would also like a p90. Subscribing to this one, can't wait to see where it goes.

UWone77
15 November 2014, 08:42
Would love an mp5, would also like a p90. Subscribing to this one, can't wait to see where it goes.

I think my problem with an MP5 would be. I'd need a:

A5 type, with Surefire Handguards, Navy Trigger Group, ect

M5K or PDW type

So many options, and it looks like it will be at least $1500 minimum to put one together.

VIPER 237
15 November 2014, 08:49
I've played around with sp89's that have been sbr'd and they are a lot of fun. I personally am waiting for the Sig MPX though, the cost is going to be significantly less.

UWone77
15 November 2014, 08:58
I've played around with sp89's that have been sbr'd and they are a lot of fun. I personally am waiting for the Sig MPX though, the cost is going to be significantly less.

The MPx is also on my wishlist, but I think I'm going to wait till the initial excitement dies down. I'm sure the demand will outstrip supply quickly.

GOST
15 November 2014, 10:12
I've always wanted an AK74U. Is wish AAC would have put the Honey Badger into production.

Former11B
15 November 2014, 13:58
I'd like to build an MP5 but I think the cost will prevent me from doing that for quite a long time. I think an SBR that would be fun is a lever action .38/357 suppressed. I have the suppressor, I just need the rifle and the second stamp

jymbeux
15 November 2014, 14:45
I'd vote for a Ruger 10/22 - throw on a short barrel and suppress it. Of course a short barreled 22 upper on an sbr AR lower would fit that bill too.

JoshAston
15 November 2014, 14:53
I've got a Marlin 1894 in .44 that I'm going to SBR. Get it threaded for a suppressor as well and run subsonic hand loads through it. For a Glock carbine I'm working on a QC10 lower.

Computalotapus
15 November 2014, 15:33
I have a UMP 40 on the list.
Sent from my Windows Phone 8.1

VIPER 237
15 November 2014, 15:58
The MPx is also on my wishlist, but I think I'm going to wait till the initial excitement dies down. I'm sure the demand will outstrip supply quickly.

Yes im afraid you are 100% correct on that. I want one pretty bad as I think that would be the perfect truck gun. I'd love an SP89, but I could buy a couple MPX's for just one of those.

MoxyDave
15 November 2014, 16:14
Sounds fun. I'd like to build an AK type shorty or a P90. The Glock kits are all junk, and I wouldn't bother with a pistol caliber anyway.

On the other hand a rimfire shorty is always fun, how about a Sig 522 Commando (http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/sig522-commando.aspx)? Throw a 22Sparrow on there and you'll be smiling all day at the range.

Or go with a full-size Sig 556 SBR (http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/sig556-classic-sbr.aspx). I know it's not a "build" but they look awesome and shoot great.

You can do a lot with the 10/22 action too. Troy makes a nice 10/22 chassis (https://troyind.com/products/t22-sport-chassis-kit). Throw a steel-lined carbon barrel in there and a Volquartsen trigger group and you'd have one hell of a fun gun that you could shoot all day for peanuts.

Good luck and keep us posted!

cagekicker204
15 November 2014, 17:05
I have been looking a lot lately at the AK style pistols an Arsenal SLR 106 or a SAM 7K would make an awesome little SBR. At first glance this appears to be a pretty straight forward conversion but i believe the barrel extends out to the end of the booster but a little clever cutting and you could remove it, thread the exposed portion of the barrel, and add the muzzle device of your choice. I am sure one of the caps that Arsenel ships with their Krink style rifles is floating around or you could fashion the fake booster into a cap to cover the threads on the gas block. Here"s the version i have been drooling over .http://www.k-var.com/shop/SAM7K-03.html

schambers
15 November 2014, 18:35
If you want a hole to throw money into, an SBR G36 would be interesting to research and build.

I've been kicking an AK SBR build in my head for a while now but other things keep distracting me.

Kopis
17 November 2014, 11:31
Yes im afraid you are 100% correct on that. I want one pretty bad as I think that would be the perfect truck gun. I'd love an SP89, but I could buy a couple MPX's for just one of those.

My trunk gun. Also a good option.

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss126/Papachristou/2014-09/80E2096F-D226-4A5C-8423-B44B24C5AC3B_zpszu6rvdh6.jpg (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/Papachristou/media/2014-09/80E2096F-D226-4A5C-8423-B44B24C5AC3B_zpszu6rvdh6.jpg.html)


Sounds fun. I'd like to build an AK type shorty or a P90. !


My buddy just did an AK pistol with the sig brace. It is STUPID loud even with double hearing protection. It's definitely a fire breathing dragon too. I like it but i don't think it's for me. The concussion hits you in your chest with every shot.

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss126/Papachristou/80CD6C09-A5E2-4707-957E-438F241CF740_zps8resnmzg.jpg (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/Papachristou/media/80CD6C09-A5E2-4707-957E-438F241CF740_zps8resnmzg.jpg.html)

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss126/Papachristou/35B6C740-D918-40D2-AF5F-A7E079AEF3BC_zpsgrmr8jb5.jpg (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/Papachristou/media/35B6C740-D918-40D2-AF5F-A7E079AEF3BC_zpsgrmr8jb5.jpg.html)

cagekicker204
17 November 2014, 18:59
My trunk gun. Also a good option.

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss126/Papachristou/2014-09/80E2096F-D226-4A5C-8423-B44B24C5AC3B_zpszu6rvdh6.jpg (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/Papachristou/media/2014-09/80E2096F-D226-4A5C-8423-B44B24C5AC3B_zpszu6rvdh6.jpg.html)




My buddy just did an AK pistol with the sig brace. It is STUPID loud even with double hearing protection. It's definitely a fire breathing dragon too. I like it but i don't think it's for me. The concussion hits you in your chest with every shot.

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss126/Papachristou/80CD6C09-A5E2-4707-957E-438F241CF740_zps8resnmzg.jpg (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/Papachristou/media/80CD6C09-A5E2-4707-957E-438F241CF740_zps8resnmzg.jpg.html)

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss126/Papachristou/35B6C740-D918-40D2-AF5F-A7E079AEF3BC_zpsgrmr8jb5.jpg (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/Papachristou/media/35B6C740-D918-40D2-AF5F-A7E079AEF3BC_zpsgrmr8jb5.jpg.html)

Holy crap thats alot of fire! You gotta love that russian ammo, I keep an ak around mostly as a range toy because its cheap to feed I can only imagine the sound.

SINNER
18 November 2014, 03:56
I have decided to SBR my Scar 16s. Not really a build it weapon but the one I shot was the best shooting SBR I have ever used. After shelving my AK pistols because they shoot poorly and are deafening I could never see wasting the time or money to SBR one.

Kopis
18 November 2014, 08:20
yeah it throws like 3-4' fireballs and is beyond loud. It's like a firework concussion even just standing near it. Great fun though!


When we were talking about the build he said the brake he picked threw huge fireballs and i asked if that was good/what he wanted... he responded "why would i not want fireballs" well, now that you put it like that lol! It's definitely just a toy. No real tactical use to it of course.

cagekicker204
18 November 2014, 16:41
Kopis it looks like a fun little beast, sometimes you want to be loud it keeps the neighbors on their best behavior. My wife call my condition an addiction, my trust is a crutch and all you guys are enablers it sucks living with a psych nurse sometimes. Ive been toying with the idea of a AK sbr but would have to make it work with a can, thats beyond my abilities. Sent some emails, made some calls and figured out thats alot of cash and nobidy really wants to cut up my Saiga but would be more than happy to build up a parts kit for me.

Sinner I like the way you think I saw a post sample FN Scar last year with a short barrel at a trade show a couple years ago sith a short barrel and it was sweet. I only got to fondle it but I liked it very slick little package that you can fold up almost in half.