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GOST
18 November 2014, 16:01
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/MAG598-M-LOK-AFG.png

http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG598/M-LOK

Thompson
18 November 2014, 16:06
Would be nice to see a Picatinny version made too.

Dstrbdmedic167
18 November 2014, 16:17
I'm not feeling it... It may grow in me though...

GOST
18 November 2014, 16:19
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/MAG598-M-LOK-AFG-2.png

UWone77
18 November 2014, 16:44
Looks like Magpul is planning to release off-set MBUS's too

Ride4frnt
18 November 2014, 16:49
Hmm... I'm not sure if I like it or not. I do need a AFG for mlok though, whether it be this or an afg2 with a rail panel

GOST
18 November 2014, 16:56
If it were skeletonized like the original AFG maybe it would look a little better.

Thompson
18 November 2014, 16:56
Looks like Magpul is planning to release off-set MBUS's too
Ohh - sounds interesting.

UWone77
18 November 2014, 17:02
Ohh - sounds interesting.

Look at the pic GOST posted... that's my theory, but I could be wrong...

CarbonScoring
18 November 2014, 19:10
Too bad they took off the extra piece that fit between your fingers. I really didn't like the feel of the AFG2 without that part.

All-in-all though, not a bad looking item. I still think I'll try the BCM KAG first.

alamo5000
18 November 2014, 21:23
I like it myself.

I might try it out.

GOST
19 November 2014, 02:24
Too bad they took off the extra piece that fit between your fingers. I really didn't like the feel of the AFG2 without that part.

All-in-all though, not a bad looking item. I still think I'll try the BCM KAG first.

The KAG is definitely the better priced item.

Thompson
19 November 2014, 04:49
Look at the pic GOST posted... that's my theory, but I could be wrong...
Haha - I guess only time will tell


Too bad they took off the extra piece that fit between your fingers. I really didn't like the feel of the AFG2 without that part..
I've never used the AFG/AFG2, but it kinda seems that that said piece would work as a reference point, which the M-LOK version lacks.

CarbonScoring
19 November 2014, 05:32
I've never used the AFG/AFG2, but it kinda seems that that said piece would work as a reference point, which the M-LOK version lacks.

Yes and no (on it being a reference point.) It would depend how you use the AFG. I pull back on it. I found that when I didn't have it installed my hand tended to slide to the back of the AFG2 unless I hooked my index finger around the front (which I don't like doing). If you have more of a thumb-over grip you may be squeezing the rail more, allowing you to pull it back into your shoulder. In that case the AFG may work good as a reference point.

I can see why they don't give you the option to add it in like they do with the AFG/AFG2, since this one doesn't split.

alamo5000
19 November 2014, 06:29
I can see why they don't give you the option to add it in like they do with the AFG/AFG2, since this one doesn't split.

That will come out in version 2.0 so you can spend money on this one, then decided to 'upgrade' later.

markm
19 November 2014, 06:55
Too bad they took off the extra piece that fit between your fingers. I really didn't like the feel of the AFG2 without that part.


I wonder if you wrapped your index finger in front if you'd get a similar feel.

alamo5000
19 November 2014, 07:06
I wonder if you wrapped your index finger in front if you'd get a similar feel.

"the M-LOK AFG is ¾" shorter than the AFG-2 while maintaining a similar gripping surface area"

Which depending on how they shaved off the 3/4" it could make a more single point gripping surface with less 'play' in it... Who knows....

CarbonScoring
19 November 2014, 16:24
I wonder if you wrapped your index finger in front if you'd get a similar feel.

I've tried that and never really liked it. Which brings me on to this:


"the M-LOK AFG is ¾" shorter than the AFG-2 while maintaining a similar gripping surface area"

Which depending on how they shaved off the 3/4" it could make a more single point gripping surface with less 'play' in it... Who knows....

If they shaved some of the height off, but kept more-or-less the same angle, that would be pretty cool. Basically just move the hand closer to the rail altogether. It kind of looks that way. In this case the index finger wrapped around the front might work.

I'm guessing it will probably be cheap enough to just buy one and try it out. Even if I don't like it they sell really quick on the second hand market.

alamo5000
19 November 2014, 16:26
I've tried that and never really liked it. Which brings me on to this:



If they shaved some of the height off, but kept more-or-less the same angle, that would be pretty cool. Basically just move the hand closer to the rail altogether. It kind of looks that way. In this case the index finger wrapped around the front might work.

I'm guessing it will probably be cheap enough to just buy one and try it out. Even if I don't like it they sell really quick on the second hand market.


$29 bucks ordered from magpul... plus about 8 bucks fedex....

alamo5000
19 November 2014, 16:36
If they shaved some of the height off, but kept more-or-less the same angle, that would be pretty cool. Basically just move the hand closer to the rail altogether. It kind of looks that way. In this case the index finger wrapped around the front might work.


If you look at the AFG2 the angled grip part forms a definitive angle, and it then almost 'abruptly' goes to level with the rail. With this new one it looks a whole lot more sloped and contoured.

It slopes into the rail more rather than having that abrupt angle.

It's also not 'back angled'...meaning the back end of it has no angle really... it just is what it is...the length is where they shaved off.... I measured on the pic by GOST and M Lok rail holes are standard size....so its just about 4" long tip to tail vs the AFG2 which is 4.7 inches long.

The height is about 2" from the bottom of the rail to the tip of the nub. Which is similar to the AFG2....only with a different contour into the rail.

CarbonScoring
20 November 2014, 01:24
If you look at the AFG2 the angled grip part forms a definitive angle, and it then almost 'abruptly' goes to level with the rail. With this new one it looks a whole lot more sloped and contoured.

It slopes into the rail more rather than having that abrupt angle.

It's also not 'back angled'...meaning the back end of it has no angle really... it just is what it is...the length is where they shaved off.... I measured on the pic by GOST and M Lok rail holes are standard size....so its just about 4" long tip to tail vs the AFG2 which is 4.7 inches long.

The height is about 2" from the bottom of the rail to the tip of the nub. Which is similar to the AFG2....only with a different contour into the rail.

Thanks for doing the measuring. This may be one I need to actually feel in person first.


$29 bucks ordered from magpul... plus about 8 bucks fedex....

At that price, I think I'd rather go with the KAG. I can get 2 of those for roughly the same price.

GOST
20 November 2014, 01:34
$29 bucks ordered from magpul... plus about 8 bucks fedex....

When I saw this price I was kinda surprised. I know it's bigger than the BCM KAG, but didn't figure that it would be close to twice the price.

Thompson
20 November 2014, 04:48
When I saw this price I was kinda surprised. I know it's bigger than the BCM KAG, but didn't figure that it would be close to twice the price.
On the bright side, at least it's slightly cheaper than the AFG/AFG2

CarbonScoring
20 November 2014, 07:02
On the bright side, at least it's slightly cheaper than the AFG/AFG2

It really should be, it looks like a much simpler item to manufacture (not that I know what I'm talking about), but I expected it to be around the $20 price point.

alamo5000
20 November 2014, 08:21
The 29 bucks is msrp. I don't know if on the street they will be cheaper.

GOST
20 November 2014, 10:34
M-LOK handguards may be cheaper than Keymod, but so far the accessories are higher.

alamo5000
20 November 2014, 12:28
M-LOK handguards may be cheaper than Keymod, but so far the accessories are higher.

Which is brilliant from a marketing and profit margin standpoint. :)

I would say though that once there are more people putting out parts the prices will drop. Its the law. It just happens that way.

UWone77
21 November 2014, 12:12
I know it's form over function, but that has to be one of the ugliest version of the AFG ever.

Personally, I still like the angle of the AFG2. Seems like I'm drifting along with a lot of others to handstops.

Thompson
21 November 2014, 12:15
It really should be, it looks like a much simpler item to manufacture (not that I know what I'm talking about), but I expected it to be around the $20 price point.
Yeah, I could see that.

alamo5000
21 November 2014, 12:38
I know it's form over function, but that has to be one of the ugliest version of the AFG ever.

Personally, I still like the angle of the AFG2. Seems like I'm drifting along with a lot of others to handstops.

I have a hand stop and for one reason or another it just isn't all that comfortable. Maybe (more like probably) I am using it wrong. I've been wondering what the correct technique is for how the thing is designed.

conrath.robert@gmail.com
24 November 2014, 08:13
Would be nice to see a Picatinny version made too.

They've offered a picatinny version for a couple years now. It's been through two generations of design...

alamo5000
28 November 2014, 15:47
Look what I found:

http://jerkingthetrigger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/IMG_5450.jpg

CarbonScoring
28 November 2014, 20:06
Thanks for the comparison, alamo.

Thompson
28 November 2014, 20:11
They've offered a picatinny version for a couple years now. It's been through two generations of design...
Sorry, was in reference to this latest version.

alamo - thanks for posting. Neat to see the evolution of the AFG