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schambers
3 January 2015, 09:39
So I recently got an 870 that needs a little TLC. I *think* is a Scattergun tech 870 that was produced before they were bought by Wilson. It has the Scattergun roll mark on the right side and bears a Remington serial number along with "Wingmaster" and "Magnum" roll marks on the left. It also has a metal trigger guard.

The non-remington parts are all unbranded but appear to be Scattergun designs. The teeth of the rear sight are beefier than current production models and they do not have any Wilson or Scattergun branding. The light foreend is from a company I've never heard of.

Any thoughts on if this shotgun is from Scattergun Tech?

I've cycled and fired the action -a lot- using snapcaps and the action feels like its on ball bearings. The trigger is very crisp as well. I haven't put any rounds through it, as the front and rear trigger pins are missing, and the receiver will have to be re-threaded, as the threads that the stock screws into are begining to become stripped. The forend light will also have to go.

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MonkeyBomb
3 January 2015, 09:50
It looks like the old scatter gun tech. But that's a broad statement.

Where did you find one that looks never used with missing parts and stripped threads?

schambers
3 January 2015, 10:11
Got it from a guy on the ar15 forums. I tore everything apart and there is very minimal use. The guy said it had seen about 50 rounds and that looks to be pretty accurate. In fact, there was still Cosmoline-like grease on most of the interior.

There is some marring on the receiver's finish and the coating on the trigger plate has begun to flake off. Will probably look into getting that re-done as well, or just replaced.

The trigger plate assembly was held in place with screws and I didn't want to run ammunition through the gun and have the screw threads gouge something important.

CK 187
3 January 2015, 15:27
Score!

schambers
16 January 2015, 11:58
Recently got the receiver back from being re-threaded and a new light for end came in as well, so I figured I would install it and do a little comparison between the old shotgun light and the new one. At first, I thought the "stock" fore end light was a Surefire knockoff because it is very close in design to a Surefire fore end, but its marked "Laser Products Corp." Something about the Laser Products name seemed familiar though, so while I was waiting for everything to arrive I did a little research into the company.

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Engineers from the Newport Corporation founded Laser Products Corp in the late 60's and began refining the design of a weapon-mounted laser, which they had been working on under the Newport Corporation. In the mid-80's, LPC got its first big break when the LA SWAT department asked them to deliver a large number of laser equipped shotguns for the 1984 summer olympics security personnel. From that point, LPC expanded their business in the law enforcement and military communities and eventually developed their first weapon mounted light. In early 2000, Laser Products Corp was re-branded Surefire, and the rest is history.

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LPC in history: Terminator

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An example of a shotgun laser

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The LPC fore end, compared to the DSF-870.

They are shockingly similar in size and weight. The LPC plastic is VERY slick. It has a (highly sensitive) pressure switch accessible only on the right hand side, which I do not like, and has an incandescent light head. In my opinion, the LPC fore end aesthetically compliments the 870 very well. I think its because the LPC holds the light body closer to the magazine tube than the DSF-870, and gives the appearance of being less bulky. Unfortunately, the controls and build material of the LPC leave a lot to be desired, hence the purchase of the DSF-870.

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LPC chambered in .223

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Went over a lot of the internals with some 600 and 1400 grit sandpaper before re-assembly.

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DSF-870 battery mounting compared to the LPC.

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DSF ready to go.

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Stinkers distracting me.

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The highest DSF setting is pretty impressive. I've become used to looking at flashlights and normally they don't hurt my eyes. This one does.

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Not a very good comparison, but the DSF next to the LPC.

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Re-assembled.

I was hoping to do a teardown and replacement of the trigger pack, but I'm still waiting on the post man....

Gaspipeshooter
16 January 2015, 12:16
You either have 3 hands or are a contortionist to get those shell latches back in! Or do you have a staking tool?

schambers
16 January 2015, 12:23
Just two hands and some rattling the pieces back and forth... and dropping the bolt a few times.

Gaspipeshooter
16 January 2015, 12:46
Just two hands and some rattling the pieces back and forth... and dropping the bolt a few times.

Usually the trigger group is tough to get back in properly unless those shell latches are staked into the receiver properly.