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GOST
4 January 2015, 18:54
Today's the 2nd anniversary of the passing of John Noveske. Here's a tribute video for those who were a fan of John.


http://youtu.be/YyvGQkTPzpM

And here is the tribute that Knights Armament made for him.

http://kitup.military.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Noveske_Memorial_Final-399x600.jpg

DutyUse
4 January 2015, 19:07
Rest In Peace John. I hope his family is happy and healthy. I'm glad to see Noveske as a company getting back to their roots making quality products for fellow shooters.

It's funny because back in 09'-10 when I REALLY started getting serious about ARs… Noveske was like the pinnacle to me and most other enthusiasts, the hottest girl at the bar if you will, the one you dreamed about but knew you'd never have. :)

He deffiently left his mark on a lot of lives, and I wish his company nothing but the utmost success

UWone77
4 January 2015, 19:29
Today's the 2nd anniversary of the passing of John Noveske. Here's a tribute video for those who were a fan of John.


http://youtu.be/YyvGQkTPzpM

And here is the tribute that Knights Armament made for him.

http://kitup.military.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Noveske_Memorial_Final-399x600.jpg

If you see it in person, it's pretty impressive KAC did that for him.

RIP John. Sorry I didn't visit the Shop before you passed.

GOST
4 January 2015, 19:38
That tribute has been my screen saver at work for almost 2 years. Them 2 SR-25's welded to together are a work of art, Trey did an incredible job coming up with the concept.

John Noveske from what I've read was one cool dude.

Stickman
4 January 2015, 19:42
Rest in Peace old Friend...

DutyUse
4 January 2015, 19:44
Serious question to guys in the know, with the key people at Noveske having moved on (V7, Era etc..) is Noveske on the decline? Like i said previously, they were THE pinnacle, now just kinda overpriced "me too'rs"… thoughts?

(PS. No way am I disrespecting John, his company, or legacy, just a concerned Noveske lover)

GOST
4 January 2015, 20:05
Serious question to guys in the know, with the key people at Noveske having moved on (V7, Era etc..) is Noveske on the decline? Like i said previously, they were THE pinnacle, now just kinda overpriced "me too'rs"… thoughts?

(PS. No way am I disrespecting John, his company, or legacy, just a concerned Noveske lover)

The transition for Noveske from John to another is a difficult one, you just can't replace someone like John. But after sometime and the right leadership they'll be ok. Would be nice to see them one day have his kids running Noveske, and to see them have the industry by the balls.

DutyUse
4 January 2015, 20:07
^ Couldn't agree more. I know they just expanded. And they can't hardly keep lowers and barrels in stock... But not the industry leaders like they were..

No doubt they will revive the name, just starting discussion

toolboxluis00200
4 January 2015, 23:07
wow is bin two years all ready
RIP John

Deadwing
4 January 2015, 23:45
By all accounts, John was one hell of a great guy. I wish i'd had the honor of knowing him personally. RIP, John.

UWone77
4 January 2015, 23:54
Serious question to guys in the know, with the key people at Noveske having moved on (V7, Era etc..) is Noveske on the decline? Like i said previously, they were THE pinnacle, now just kinda overpriced "me too'rs"… thoughts?

(PS. No way am I disrespecting John, his company, or legacy, just a concerned Noveske lover)

When you lose the founder/innovator, that's a tough loss. Coupled with the fact most of the main cogs in the company have left, there's going to be a transition period, possibly a rough one.

I also wonder, in this market, with virtually everyone having too much inventory, blow out sales, Noveske hasn't been doing either. You could make speculations either way on why that is.

DutyUse
5 January 2015, 00:27
EDIT:

This is a tribute and Celebration of one of the great men in our industry and the company he built up out of his father's garage. He's a legend, an inspiration and a damn good man. Yes there have been problems since his passing, but to critize his company on the eve of his passing was in poor taste. So i respectfully deleted it, and instead post this.

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/FamilyFord23/pew%20pew/john-noveske_zps6302ec26.jpg

GOST
5 January 2015, 04:08
I also wonder, in this market, with virtually everyone having too much inventory, blow out sales, Noveske hasn't been doing either. You could make speculations either way on why that is.

I've studied in some business classes where some companies that have adequate funds will hold back when the market is saturated. Supposedly this strategy builds demand for their product. It also lets the other companies to draw the fire and kill themselves off.

DutyUse
5 January 2015, 04:33
I've studied in some business classes where some companies that have adequate funds will hold back when the market is saturated. Supposedly this strategy builds demand for their product. It also lets the other companies to draw the fire and kill themselves off.

Makes sense...

"Hey we're F'in Noveske. You know you want our product, here's the price. We're not budging. Let the little fish sell their product cheap and flood the market. Ours stays exclusive and maintains desirability. "

I can see that.

DutyUse
5 January 2015, 04:35
Sure is freaking hard enough getting your hands on a lower. Gotta be demand for them.. I literally emailed Noveske and 7-8 of their top retailers.

GOST
5 January 2015, 04:36
Ours stays exclusive and maintains desirability.

Nigo from the Bathing Ape uses a similar sales strategy.

CK 187
5 January 2015, 04:39
I've studied in some business classes where some companies that have adequate funds will hold back when the market is saturated. Supposedly this strategy builds demand for their product. It also lets the other companies to draw the fire and kill themselves off.

Absolutely correct. That is savvy (albeit risky) sense if you have the financial fortitude to do so


Can't believe it's been two years already

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/RIP-John-Noveske.jpg

DutyUse
5 January 2015, 04:41
Nigo from the Bathing Ape uses a similar sales strategy.

Huh? Who what when where? Is that your UC nickname? 0.o

GOST
5 January 2015, 04:44
Huh? Who what when where? Is that your UC nickname? 0.o

It's a popular and very expensive Japanese clothing company. I used to design apparel and gear for some MMA companies, so I've researched a lot of brands.

DutyUse
5 January 2015, 04:45
It's a popular and very expensive Japanese clothing company.

Ah that explains it. I dun wearz dem walsmarts cluthz

GOST
5 January 2015, 05:44
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/v/t1.0-9/545211_4630446598189_971162862_n.jpg?oh=57a3fd076c 87cc3792d82ebc57528530&oe=553E5611

DutyUse
5 January 2015, 05:54
http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/FamilyFord23/pew%20pew/johnnveske_01_zpsa9620c2c.jpg

Can't remember which magazine this photo was shot for (maybe recoil?) but was always one of my favorites.

CK 187
5 January 2015, 07:08
http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/FamilyFord23/pew%20pew/johnnveske_01_zpsa9620c2c.jpg

Can't remember which magazine this photo was shot for (maybe recoil?) but was always one of my favorites.

Yep, Recoil. That's the 300BLK SBR article

UWone77
5 January 2015, 11:30
I've studied in some business classes where some companies that have adequate funds will hold back when the market is saturated. Supposedly this strategy builds demand for their product. It also lets the other companies to draw the fire and kill themselves off.

You know, when Gen III receivers were released, they sold out pretty fast, despite their high cost and market saturation. I think the smart money would have been to continue releasing product at a slower rate, if indeed they were holding back their funds during this period.... but then again, I didn't study business. [:D]

n4p226r
5 January 2015, 14:23
Serious question to guys in the know, with the key people at Noveske having moved on (V7, Era etc..) is Noveske on the decline? Like i said previously, they were THE pinnacle, now just kinda overpriced "me too'rs"… thoughts?

(PS. No way am I disrespecting John, his company, or legacy, just a concerned Noveske lover)

i'm not "in the know" but with the products that the company has been putting out since his passing, i don't see the overpriced "me too" fitting. still the same great barrels, the gen 3 line of stuff is great. multiple new rail offerings. and more in house production. i see the cerakote gen 3 line as being a huge improvement (just hope they they decide to offer more colors in the future). they did seem to have a few warts to fix during the gen 2 - gen 3 migration timeframe but they are constantly putting out a great product from everything of theirs i've had my hands on.

DutyUse
5 January 2015, 14:40
i'm not "in the know" but with the products that the company has been putting out since his passing, i don't see the overpriced "me too" fitting. still the same great barrels, the gen 3 line of stuff is great. multiple new rail offerings. and more in house production. i see the cerakote gen 3 line as being a huge improvement (just hope they they decide to offer more colors in the future). they did seem to have a few warts to fix during the gen 2 - gen 3 migration timeframe but they are constantly putting out a great product from everything of theirs i've had my hands on.

Besides for a lower, I own a complete Noveske. Like I said. They are the pinnacle of AR15's in my humble opinion (or at least on par with KAC and BCM) but dripping with much more sex appeal. I love noveske. Actually in fact I'm wearing one of their tshirts right now.

What my question was, with John and the og's all but gone where is Noveske heading? I ask this as a concerned lover of the brand. Maybe my fanboy didn't come out strong enough lol

iowa hawkeyes
5 January 2015, 15:29
http://youtu.be/r1vAxs7U5-g
http://youtu.be/4ItIsMFbS3Q
http://youtu.be/iCbMj7BjQb8