Mega Arms & Killer Innovations ORIAS Chassis

[Dstrbdmedic167]

From Mega's Arms Facebook page. I think I might end up with a Remi 700 now. This is a chassis like I've been wanting! No info on pricing or availability yet.


"Mega Arms and Killer Innovations have teamed up to manufacture the most technologically advanced chassis system available on the market today.
Compatible with Remington 700 short action pattern receivers.
7075-T651 Billet Aluminum.
Extremely light weight.
No bedding required due to our revolutionary self-adjusting recoil lug locking system (patent pending).
Compatible with Accuracy international style box magazines.
The removable rear trunnion is compatible with all AR style buffer tubes and buttstocks.
Available in KEY MOD and M-LOK.
QD inserts made from steel, black nitrite coated for strength and reliability.
Ambidextrous magazine release.
Quick detach Night vision mount available."

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[Computalotapus]

so sexy

[CarbonScoring]

I've been wanting an excuse to finally build a bolt action.

[mustangfreek]

so sexy

X2...and im curious what the price point will be here?

[Ride4frnt]

I've been wanting an excuse to finally build a bolt action.

Me too. Between this and the magpul idk which is rather have. Or a TAC-21. Wish mega and magpul made these for savage actions though.

[Gaspipeshooter]

X2...and im curious what the price point will be here?

$$$$$$ Cubed...

[mustangfreek]

Me too. Between this and the magpul idk which is rather have. Or a TAC-21. Wish mega and magpul made these for savage actions though.

THIS..

Out of the box side by side my with old mans rem 700 and my savage 10 both in 308, mine outshot, ergos felt better, and trigger was much better

[Dstrbdmedic167]

I've been wanting an excuse to finally build a bolt action.

yep this will probably be my excuse right here...

[Slippers]

I imagine mega was pretty sad when magpul announced theirs for $260.

[BoilerUp]

Looks nice. Something seems wrong about having to buy a buffer tube for a bolt gun. I hope Mega will consider releasing a version that accommodates Savage actions. Too bad they couldn't make their logo bigger.

[jymbeux]

Hopefully down the road they add savage actions, lefty actions and long actions. I've got two savage long actions (one lefty) that could use new stocks - but a savage 10 in one of these would be super nice. I think they made a great move with the AR stock/grip compatibility. People can use what they are already comfortable with. Plus the folding stock adapters may work with it as well (maybe future factory option on the chassis?), allowing for a more compact/portable carry configuration.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Looks nice. Something seems wrong about having to buy a buffer tube for a bolt gun. I hope Mega will consider releasing a version that accommodates Savage actions. Too bad they couldn't make their logo bigger.


Hopefully down the road they add savage actions, lefty actions and long actions. I've got two savage long actions (one lefty) that could use new stocks - but a savage 10 in one of these would be super nice. I think they made a great move with the AR stock/grip compatibility. People can use what they are already comfortable with. Plus the folding stock adapters may work with it as well (maybe future factory option on the chassis?), allowing for a more compact/portable carry configuration.

They did say they have plans for savage as well as others. They didn't specify a timeframe though...

[Liberal_Strong]

Does this mean I have to buy this and magpuls chassis?

[Pyzik]

I imagine mega was pretty sad when magpul announced theirs for $260.

This was the first thing I thought.

These will be catering to two different markets for sure.

[Ordnance]

Looks nice. Something seems wrong about having to buy a buffer tube for a bolt gun. I hope Mega will consider releasing a version that accommodates Savage actions. Too bad they couldn't make their logo bigger.

XLR Industries uses buffer tubes as well. It gives the shooter dozens of options as opposed to being stuck with only one.

[Ordnance]

The Magpul won't be in the same category frankly. It's not as customizable and any traditional stock even with a chassis system usually needs bedding to perform at an optimal unlike an aluminum chassis such a this. I know a bit about the development and there will be a lot of options coming after the initial release. They also took this chassis out for testing with a well known competition shooter in the practical rifle long range community who is helping them to further improve it. Is it perfect out of the gate? No... But it will only get better as they move towards production and get feedback from guys who shoot competitively and have employed dozens of different stock systems.

[Ordnance]

Me too. Between this and the magpul idk which is rather have. Or a TAC-21. Wish mega and magpul made these for savage actions though.

If you want one for a Savage there is PDC Customs, Mcree, and XLR that offer a tactical chassis for a Savage. The Tac 21 would not be my go to personally.

[Ordnance]

Hopefully down the road they add savage actions, lefty actions and long actions. I've got two savage long actions (one lefty) that could use new stocks - but a savage 10 in one of these would be super nice. I think they made a great move with the AR stock/grip compatibility. People can use what they are already comfortable with. Plus the folding stock adapters may work with it as well (maybe future factory option on the chassis?), allowing for a more compact/portable carry configuration.

XLR Industries and PDC offer left hand and long action as well. As for the Mega it is compatible with almost any buffer tube folding stock adapter.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

MSRP on the chassis is $808 per mega's facebook.

[Cotton68spc]

Yep I want to build a cross holler bolt gun and this chassis is sexy


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[mustangfreek]

MSRP on the chassis is $808 per mega's facebook.

I missed this before...Hummm......wonder how it will do with magpul releasing something kinda similiar for a lot less..

[Naytwan]

I missed this before...Hummm......wonder how it will do with magpul releasing something kinda similiar for a lot less..

For the type of chassis it is, $800 is competitive pricing. The magpul stock I believe is going for a different market. The Whiskey-3 Chassis is priced above $900. Its probably in the same market. The Magpul will go up against the Bell and Carlson stocks.

[WarEagle]

Any update on when these will be available?

[UWone77]

Any update on when these will be available?

No solid time table from what I've seen. Mega however is pretty good about getting products to market quickly. I wouldn't be surprised to see this come summer.

[UWone77]

Any update on when these will be available?

Looks like Mega says 30 days the ORIAS Chassis will be shipping to dealers.

[WarEagle]

Looks like Mega says 30 days the ORIAS Chassis will be shipping to dealers.

Awesome


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[GOST]

M-LOK versions are here.

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[schambers]

I thought pretty hard about getting the Orias but decided against it. It's around $800 and doesn't come with a stock, adding a magpul PRS or some other adjustable deal would bring the price around $1000, so why not just get something from another manufacturer that already has adjustable length or pull, comb, and folds?

I'm finalizing a 6.5 Creedmoor build and went with a Whiskey 3 instead (my second). The Orias' self adjusting lug thingy is a neat feature but if your talking about mounting an action that's been worked/trued by a good gunsmith, it's not really going to do much.

The design of the removable back piece looks like they will eventually be able to develop a streamlined folding version, but who knows when that will be out... and I want my build done nowwww!!!!

Edit: I think chassis like the Orias fall into a weird category where there are a lot of less expensive options that do similar things, and there are more expensive options that offer complete "out of the box" solutions.

It looks pretty sweet though. Excited to see what the second generation is going to look like.

[SINNER]

I agree they missed the mark on the pricing of this. With complete XLR Element chassis or the McRees chassis going for around $600 it's honestly not even a consideration at their price point. 1K+ by time a stock and buffer tube is added you are in AI territory.

[nijikon84]

UWOne or Eric have any more info on this?

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Are they using Rock Creek Barrels? I heard records and what not... Is it possibly with Bartlein barrels!?

[ChetPunisher]

I understand they have to make money on development, but the price point for these chassis designs are ridiculous. If they would set a price point around $250-$300 they would sell a lot more and make more money. The average joe who wants to build something like this will have a hard time justifying this purchase.

[Slippers]

I understand they have to make money on development, but the price point for these chassis designs are ridiculous. If they would set a price point around $250-$300 they would sell a lot more and make more money. The average joe who wants to build something like this will have a hard time justifying this purchase.

Is that a typo? There's no possible way they could sell the Orias for $300.

I take that back. They could, but they'd be losing money. :)

It's not just materials cost and R&D involved in something like this. There's machine time, overhead, employee wages, etc. They're in business to make money, so it's priced accordingly.

[SINNER]

I am honestly very dissapointed with their pricing on this chassis. I would love to hear their justification for the pricing on these. Twice the price of a MDT LSS is insane. Almost identical chassis with the exception of the pointless MLOK or Keymod slots on the sides of the fore end.

[Aberration79]

I wish it was in long action. Or maybe I should just hang up the old beast.

[Ordnance]

Since I've had a lot of time with the Orias, as well as numerous other chassis systems including the AICS, AIAX, KRG, XLR, Manners, McMillan, Eliseo, APO, JAE, JP, Rock Solid, and probably a half dozen others I'm sure many of you haven't heard of, I'm going to chime in. You guys are looking at a price tag, which comparatively is not as bad as you think.

First, $800 is a standard fare for a quality stock. As a matter of fact, many stocks go well over $1K. Most shooters never use their stocks beyond a bench or basic hunting, so some of the features that are built into the rifle won't be appreciated. First, the butt stock and grip. Unlike some companies where you're stuck with their proprietary butt stock and/or grip, the Orias gives you the ability to pick what suits your needs and flavor, so you can get a PRS like what JP uses, an XLR if you prefer that style, or an ergo vs a MOE+, but you're not limited to just one option. Second, there are features such as the detachable NV mount, which unless you own NV you probably won't appreciate, nor will you recognize the benefit of being able to lighten the rifle by removing it which you can't do on some higher end chassis. Then you have the MLOK. For anyone who's run a bipod HARD, you know that keymods are NOT your friend. There's an ambidextrous magazine release that's WAY better than the standard DBM.

There's also something none of you know about because it hasn't been talked about much... a small removable barricade stop just in front of the magazine, which was designed into the rifle after Killer and Mega got with numerous competitors in LR competitions at the matches, and had many of us saying "F#$K YES!", since pushing up against the magazine has created numerous feed issues and many a hours wasted trying to dremel shit or come up with ways to overcome it. Also, the flat stock in front of the magazine, lol, I've seen PRS competitors literally cut down AI stocks to get that part flat, all the time asking why AI hasn't flipping gotten rid of that angle since anyone who's worked barricades or other obstacles knows, you want a flat surface.


I agree they missed the mark on the pricing of this. With complete XLR Element chassis or the McRees chassis going for around $600 it's honestly not even a consideration at their price point. 1K+ by time a stock and buffer tube is added you are in AI territory.

I am honestly very dissapointed with their pricing on this chassis. I would love to hear their justification for the pricing on these. Twice the price of a MDT LSS is insane. Almost identical chassis with the exception of the pointless MLOK or Keymod slots on the sides of the fore end.


For the very base models, and there are certain features you don't get with either of those that you get with the Orias. McRees are fine, but the XLR is hands down is better. I have to admit, I'm a big XLR fan. As for AI, yeah they're nice, but the AX 2.0 is $1100+, he AX MK II is $1500+, and their both heavy as shit. Plus, when you start adding certain options, the price goes up. If you're talking about the $850+ AICS 2.0, lol, there's a reason why Viper skins($150) are so popular. It's also very boxy, and many guys don't care for the feel behind it. The MDT LSS is not even remotely comparable. I could spend awhile going over everything that's wrong with it, but instead I'll just say go to any real PRS type competition, and tell me how many guys you see using it on the line. And if you're using NV or a sling properly, then those side slots aren't so useless anymore man.


The Orias' self adjusting lug thingy is a neat feature but if your talking about mounting an action that's been worked/trued by a good gunsmith, it's not really going to do much.

The design of the removable back piece looks like they will eventually be able to develop a streamlined folding version, but who knows when that will be out... and I want my build done nowwww!!!!

It means you don't have to bed the action, which even with a high end action like Defiance, still needs done on most other stocks including the ones with integrated DBM. As a matter of fact what makes some of the best smiths out there is their ability to properly bed the action and lug. Again, a feature that most will never appreciate, but anyone who has competed and seen numerous rifles with a trigger that went down, will appreciate when they can swap out the trigger quickly not having to re-zero the rifle again. As for the folder, you can use a Law Tactical adapter on it now, but in all the years I've shot comps, I almost never see anyone use their folder accept when flying, and even then when you see how TSA handles gear you'll think twice before folding it over and now having even less foam padding in-between. They really wanted to get a folder on it, but the demand outweighed timelines for release.


I understand they have to make money on development, but the price point for these chassis designs are ridiculous. If they would set a price point around $250-$300 they would sell a lot more and make more money. The average joe who wants to build something like this will have a hard time justifying this purchase.

Lol.... You're [crazy]


So, again, there are features many of you guys probably won't at first glance appear to need, and as a result it won't reflect your wants enough to justify the price. But, the more you get into certain aspects, the more you'll appreciate the details and quality that are synonymous with Killer Innovations and Mega Arms. It's a new product, and like anything else it will grow and develop and then eventually become more affordable. If anyone has any questions about stocks please feel free to hit me up on FB or here, but give me a little bit since my school schedule keeps me occupied, so I don't comment much anymore on forums. I enjoy talking about long range equipment though, since it's more my bread and butter.

[Ordnance]

I wish it was in long action. Or maybe I should just hang up the old beast.

LA have their place. But in the market they're trying to target first, the SA are more preferred. They'll eventually have an LA out, but if you need one sooner I would look at XLR Industries or PDC.

[Aberration79]

My 7mm Mag is getting long in the tooth. Don't really need the power anyways. I would probably be better off moving to a SA anyways.

[Ordnance]

My 7mm Mag is getting long in the tooth. Don't really need the power anyways. I would probably be better off moving to a SA anyways.

7mm Rem Mags have their place, so don't discount it based upon what I said, as that was not my intention. If you like your 7mm, just check out the companies I mentioned or wait for Mega/Killer to produce a LA.