NEW Surefire WARCOMP

[GOST]

From www.soldiersystems.net.

http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/IMG_1161-0.jpg

Available in 5.56 and 7.62 versions for use with the SureFire SOCOM Suppressor. They are telling me that this is the first real flash hider that actually counters muzzle rise and still has great signature reduction. I can’t wait to see it for myself. They’ll also be demonstrating at their range Monday evening because at night is where they shine.

[Naytwan]

Any idea on how long it is? Thinking of getting my KX3 off my rifle and the only flash hider/muzzle break long enough to replace it is the B. E. Meyers one.

[GOST]

Looks like it's the same size as a SF3P-556 which is 2.67". Is your barrel a 13.7"?

[Naytwan]

Looks like it's the same size as a SF3P-556 which is 2.67". Is your barrel a 13.7"?

Yeah it is. Its a Blackhole weaponry barrel Parallax Tactical chopped and pinned/welded the KX3 on. If that's the case I will add it to my list. Gonna have to run my upper back to Parallax Tactical and have them swap muzzle devices for me. I like the KX3 its just to heavy. I have a couple ProComps on other rifles but with this rifle being an HD/training rifle I kinda want the flash suppression as well. Surefire makes good stuff. I'll be on the look out for this guy.


Edit - Actually doing the math it wont work if it has your typical .5 or so to account for the threading on. Still interesting.

[GOST]

Have you considered a KX5? It weighs in 2.5 oz lighter than the KX3.

[Naytwan]

Have you considered a KX5? It weighs in 2.5 oz lighter than the KX3.

Sorry to derail the thread :)

Yeah, trying to decided between the Meyers hider and the KX5.

[UWone77]

Any idea on how long it is? Thinking of getting my KX3 off my rifle and the only flash hider/muzzle break long enough to replace it is the B. E. Meyers one.

If you like the BE Meyers one, might want to wait until after SHOT, BE Meyers may have something new for the 13.7's.

[VIPER 237]

If you like the BE Meyers one, might want to wait until after SHOT, BE Meyers may have something new for the 13.7's.

I see what you did there ;)

[Naytwan]

If you like the BE Meyers one, might want to wait until after SHOT, BE Meyers may have something new for the 13.7's.

Yeah, I put my buying on hold till after shot. Magpul is already getting my first check in febuary if the 700 stock and the AK stuff is out. Guess I need to add B. E. Meyers to the list of recipients. lol. Maybe even Surefire. This would go nicely on my pistol I'm building.

[rob_s]

Based on my own testing, and that Lucky Gunner article last year, here ain't no free lunch. You're either a hider or you're a brake, and never the twain shall meet.

[GOST]

The PWS FSC556 is still the best I've seen at being a brake and flash hider. It throws sparks rather than flames. Here's an old video from West Coast Armory.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3_004H7tVgg

[rob_s]

The PWS FSC556 is still the best I've seen at being a brake and flash hider. It throws sparks rather than flames. Here's an old video from West Coast Armory.


I would be inclined to agree, based on what I captured here

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/20110219composite.jpg

[CK 187]

I would be inclined to agree, based on what I captured here

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/20110219composite.jpg

That signature on the Krink isn't surprising, but i'm amazed at how well that Carlson appeared to perform

[Bkelly47]

Any more info become available about when these are going to become available my SOCOM 762RC and 556RC just got out of NFA jail.

[Ratfink]

Im also looking for anyone that knows a release date on these as well as there blast shield that goes with it.

It would be awesome if anyone went to the surefire shoot at night to see this thing shoot as well.

[GOST]

I've seen no reports of how the Warcomp performed at SHOT.

[GOST]

A short video of the WARCOMP in action.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8NmsNA6xM1s

[JGifford]

That signature on the Krink isn't surprising, but i'm amazed at how well that Carlson appeared to perform

The problem with a krink is that it does well...does well...does welll...fireball!!!.

[GOST]

http://www.surefire.com/warcomp-556-1-2-28.html

[UWone77]

I need to buy a couple of these.

[GOST]

Surprised not to see any reviews of the WARCOMP from SHOT's range day.

[JGifford]

Weapon/ammo used in all videos: 16.1" DDM4 with mid-length gas system, and VLTOR A5 system using standard un-marked Vltor buffer and Vltor standard spring. PMC XTAC M193



Bare Muzzle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3y0g0vHGYM)
Surefire Warcomp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JvAlzr1leM)



Flash mitigation at night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgiZaecMo3A)

[JGifford]

In short, my recommendation is: BUY ONE! It delivers. Exactly. What. It. Advertises.

[GOST]

Looks good, probably gonna be a popular piece.

[UWone77]

I've got a Surefire Coupon Code I've been waiting to use, but they aren't selling the WarComp on their online store yet. I think this will be a good alternative to their SFMB-556 Brake

[Txfilmmaker]

I'm about to (finally) build my rifle. I have a Lantac Dragon and a FOSSA 566 three prong flash hider. I wonder if I should sell them and get this?


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[UWone77]

I'm about to (finally) build my rifle. I have a Lantac Dragon and a FOSSA 566 three prong flash hider. I wonder if I should sell them and get this?


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Maybe if you had a Surefire can.

[Slippers]

Unless you just like how it looks, there's no real reason to use the Surefire brakes. They are one of the worst at recoil reduction:

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/07/13/308-muzzle-brake/

I realize this thread is for the warcomp, but it's going to have even less recoil mitigation than the full brake. If you want flash suppression, it's kind of hard to beat a $10 A2 birdcage.

The only reason I'd use a surefire muzzle device is if I had a suppressor, like UWone77 said.

[Txfilmmaker]

That makes it easy. Thanks to you both.


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[gatordev]

Unless you just like how it looks, there's no real reason to use the Surefire brakes. They are one of the worst at recoil reduction:

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/07/13/308-muzzle-brake/

I realize this thread is for the warcomp, but it's going to have even less recoil mitigation than the full brake. If you want flash suppression, it's kind of hard to beat a $10 A2 birdcage.

The only reason I'd use a surefire muzzle device is if I had a suppressor, like UWone77 said.

What I do find interesting about that article is that it also says that their suppressor has about the same amount of "average" recoil (of various flavors) as the SF brake. I don't find that to be the case with .308 at all. Both with a Thunderbeast and on a SF, I've found the can has noticeably less impulse than without, both on gas and bolt guns. I'm thinking the "reduction in overall momentum" they measured is the more recognizable force, since that's the one that's lower with the can they tested.

[JGifford]

Unless you just like how it looks, there's no real reason to use the Surefire brakes. They are one of the worst at recoil reduction:

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/07/13/308-muzzle-brake/

I realize this thread is for the warcomp, but it's going to have even less recoil mitigation than the full brake. If you want flash suppression, it's kind of hard to beat a $10 A2 birdcage.

The only reason I'd use a surefire muzzle device is if I had a suppressor, like UWone77 said.

Have you shot the Warcomp? Less flash than an A2 by a notable amount, and yes, it certainly tamed muzzle rise as compared to a bare muzzle in my testing. No, I don't have fancy numbers to prove it, but I do have "seat of the pants feel", and slow-motion video footage that I took which agrees with what I was experiencing while shooting it. Concussion is much less than something like the Lantac, as well. Is it as effective at recoil mitigation? Certainly not, but it does a great job keeping the weapon flat, and the level of flash reduction is unreal for what is also an effective comp.

[JGifford]

What I do find interesting about that article is that it also says that their suppressor has about the same amount of "average" recoil (of various flavors) as the SF brake. I don't find that to be the case with .308 at all. Both with a Thunderbeast and on a SF, I've found the can has noticeably less impulse than without, both on gas and bolt guns. I'm thinking the "reduction in overall momentum" they measured is the more recognizable force, since that's the one that's lower with the can they tested.

A suppressor is roughly a 1# weight hanging on the end of the barrel. Its going to keep the muzzle down somewhat by the laws of physics alone, and more linear recoil is perceived as lesser. Also, as you note, mass/momentum.

[GOST]

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