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The CAGE (Concussion Altering Gas Expansion Device)
COMING SOON
https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/10471314_949353485104412_871360930553882_n.jpg?efg =eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=33ac565637b7c872cdde8ed691d69c9d&oe=5590E608&__gda__=1433503430_7f8c7292843514feec62ca04f69da26 2
http://www.vg6precision.com/index.php
Ride4frnt
4 March 2015, 16:43
Done and done. Been waiting on this. Will buy as soon as it's available
FortTom
4 March 2015, 17:14
I followed the link, couldn't find a thing about it...
UWone77
4 March 2015, 23:08
I followed the link, couldn't find a thing about it...
It's basically a blast shield.
It's also going to be somewhat adjustable, as the end user can decide how much of the brake will be covered, by moving the shield up or down.
mustangfreek
5 March 2015, 02:10
Any more pics?
As in how it attaches?
Any more pics?
As in how it attaches?
https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-0/10897118_908922805814147_9078883644744620664_n.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=a5c6d54f534b2644dfcf42118a0b35b7&oe=5541ADAE&__gda__=1428824434_87f91a7bfaefd4e334ed1331ba2d72c b
There's a couple in this pic. It attaches with a set screw. It is compatible with other VG6 muzzle devices, not just the Epsilon that they have been showing it on in their videos.
To be released in 2 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z50O3XQYLYc
Dstrbdmedic167
2 April 2015, 05:49
Done and done. Been waiting on this. Will buy as soon as it's available
To be released in 2 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z50O3XQYLYc
Get your CC ready. Time to put up or shut up!
toolboxluis00200
2 April 2015, 11:50
To be released in 2 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z50O3XQYLYc
it kind of remind me of this
http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/30438_SideSightGunGangs.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/11088596_965815050124922_8566852914951076674_o.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9
Ride4frnt
2 April 2015, 20:28
Jayden needs to take my money now.
I know the feeling, I've got the itch and it ain't crabs.
Ride4frnt
2 April 2015, 20:32
I'll happily t&e this thing. I'll be buying either way. Tame the sbr a bit.
I don't know how much it'll actually tame the SBR. I can't tell the difference between a comp and a brake on a SBR, they're both loud.
Ride4frnt
2 April 2015, 20:38
I don't know how much it'll actually tame the SBR. I can't tell the difference between a comp and a brake on a SBR, they're both loud.
Side concussion for fellow range goers is my concern.
From VG6's Facebook page.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11150859_972334799472947_8172729861675870649_n.jpg ?oh=b88fa50ec8c056e74f3c45d4344bd645&oe=55AD9EA2
Ride4frnt
15 April 2015, 11:22
Oh, Jayden posted better teasers than that in the WEVO group last night. With the gamma inside.
Ride4frnt
15 April 2015, 11:23
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/15/58c6a8f43d875b81d0b62180937439ea.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/15/0149950e196f97bbf39fe56974be9281.jpg
That stainless inside though...
That does look good. Have you seen a MSRP on these yet?
Ride4frnt
15 April 2015, 11:52
That does look good. Have you seen a MSRP on these yet?
It is listed on their site for $85
Thanks
http://www.vg6precision.com/index.php?id_product=60&controller=product
mustangfreek
16 April 2015, 00:10
Me likey.
Naytwan
16 April 2015, 01:35
I like it. I think it would be cooler if it was a quick detach/tool-less.
Cage shown here with Gamma V2. These have started shipping and should be on Revolvr soon. Pic from VG6 Facebook page.
https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/11165109_974480472591713_3449236361335800919_n.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=c11974883c0723b8612ac717d8b88289&oe=55E5F5B8&__gda__=1441083836_549492854d8cfe766f5b98f90ab977c 7
Looks like the Gamma V2 has changed the vent pattern on top to the same as the Epsilon.
jonpac07
20 April 2015, 07:54
On my Mk18 the epsilon turned it into a 22Lr in terms of control-ability and the concussion wasn't a complaint with anyone around me. Granted they were about 9 feet be side me which makes me believe that the cage would make it tolerable in a squad scenario.
Side concussion for fellow range goers is my concern.
Ride4frnt
20 April 2015, 08:57
On my Mk18 the epsilon turned it into a 22Lr in terms of control-ability and the concussion wasn't a complaint with anyone around me. Granted they were about 9 feet be side me which makes me believe that the cage would make it tolerable in a squad scenario.
I agree. The controllability of my 10.5 with the epsilon is insane. I don't wanna know what the side blast is like though. It's so loud behind it that I'd hate to be beside it.
Ride4frnt
20 April 2015, 19:55
Well boys... Jayden sent me this today... Better pics to come tomorrow after these tornado warnings, hail and everything else is over.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/20/68b270591687571c06600587d22b7deb.jpg
That thing is hotter than a Umbrella billet lower.[:D]
Dstrbdmedic167
20 April 2015, 20:00
That thing is hotter than a Umbrella billet lower.[:D]
😐😕.....
Ride4frnt
20 April 2015, 20:27
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/20/790205450c91a925615e233e54198550.jpg
Another phone pic because I'm excited.
Thompson
20 April 2015, 20:32
😐😕.....
Uh oh. Did someone invest wrong? [BD]
Dstrbdmedic167
20 April 2015, 20:34
Uh oh. Did someone invest wrong? [BD]
Nope! That billet lower is hotter than loafed bread. The CAGE is a close second!
mustangfreek
21 April 2015, 00:57
Very Nice !!
i want one..
Ride4frnt
21 April 2015, 08:44
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7595/17222818272_251be8db6b_z.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8703/17222817162_4212bd2aae_z.jpg
That looks great, the top pic is my favorite.
Ride4frnt
21 April 2015, 10:31
That looks great, the top pic is my favorite.
Funny, my sbr wouldn't balance on the magpod. Just the added weight of the cage was enough over the muzzle to make it balanced.
Can it be mounted upside down?
Ride4frnt
21 April 2015, 11:49
Can it be mounted upside down?
Well, I'm 99.9999999999% positive it can, but let's wait for James to figure out with 100% certainty.
(Yes, it can be mounted in any orientation, although there's only one proper way as outlined in the instructions)
Dstrbdmedic167
21 April 2015, 19:13
I'll post this here since VG6 was awesome enough to send me a CAGE too. Also that Arisaka goodness via a offset mount and scout body. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/21/d6e7f92fab1adeed71f0f096dae0046b.jpg
KevinBLC
22 April 2015, 18:24
I'd like to see some opinions after you guys actually shoot it. thanks.
Dstrbdmedic167
22 April 2015, 18:46
I'd like to see some opinions after you guys actually shoot it. thanks.
The few round I've put though it so far I could notice a considerable change. My head didn't feel like it was going to explode this time...
Dstrbdmedic167
22 April 2015, 18:46
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/22/fdb3de78e2ffe3d086bbc996b0dad6f6.jpg
Slippers
22 April 2015, 19:02
Would have been soooooo nice to have that yesterday. :)
Dstrbdmedic167
22 April 2015, 19:18
Would have been soooooo nice to have that yesterday. :)
Yes, yes it would have!
jonpac07
22 April 2015, 21:23
[wow]Wow.... I don't even think I'm on Jayden's top 100 now, I sent him a Mk18 upper to get one of these and I have to wait till may[bash][BD]
Aragorn
12 May 2015, 09:14
Ok someone help me get my brain around this. I've been thinking about this thing for awhile now but invariably come back to the exact same conclusion. Why buy a muzzle device that's too blasty just so you can buy a muzzle device for your muzzle device when you could have just bought a different muzzle device?
Looks? It does look kinda badass with the stainless brake under the black cage. Kinda.
I mean it IS still blasty/flashy right? And also with the added weight of a crutch secondary device yes? I guess my question is for a fresh build with no muzzle device, why go with this set up vs. a Gunfighter/FSC556/EFAB? I guess I could have listed Battlecomps in there to, but I hate those things. They're garbage.
Was the design theory "This thing is too blasty let's make a hat for it"?
UWone77
12 May 2015, 09:31
Ok someone help me get my brain around this. I've been thinking about this thing for awhile now but invariably come back to the exact same conclusion. Why buy a muzzle device that's too blasty just so you can buy a muzzle device for your muzzle device when you could have just bought a different muzzle device?
Looks? It does look kinda badass with the stainless brake under the black cage. Kinda.
I mean it IS still blasty/flashy right? And also with the added weight of a crutch secondary device yes? I guess my question is for a fresh build with no muzzle device, why go with this set up vs. a Gunfighter/FSC556/EFAB? I guess I could have listed Battlecomps in there to, but I hate those things. They're garbage.
Was the design theory "This thing is too blasty let's make a hat for it"?
I like shooting with comps, because to the shooter it's not that "blasty" I could see people wanting this so they can make it bearable when shooting on a line or at a busy range. Also, not everyone has a dozen rifles so if you have 1 gun, you may have to use this to cut down on the blast because you only have 1 gun and 1 muzzle device.
Ok someone help me get my brain around this. I've been thinking about this thing for awhile now but invariably come back to the exact same conclusion. Why buy a muzzle device that's too blasty just so you can buy a muzzle device for your muzzle device when you could have just bought a different muzzle device?
Looks? It does look kinda badass with the stainless brake under the black cage. Kinda.
I mean it IS still blasty/flashy right? And also with the added weight of a crutch secondary device yes? I guess my question is for a fresh build with no muzzle device, why go with this set up vs. a Gunfighter/FSC556/EFAB? I guess I could have listed Battlecomps in there to, but I hate those things. They're garbage.
Was the design theory "This thing is too blasty let's make a hat for it"?
Not to put words in Jayden's mouth but my take on the cage wasn't to exclusively tame their muzzle brakes but to give you another option. For guys like me who shoot on a farm often by myself, I like to run a brake. But I when I rarely go to a public range an option like installing a CAGE is more convenient than changing muzzle devices.
I guess you could compare the CAGE/Gamma combo to either the KAC MAMS or Sintercore 3DX. All 3 devices are 2 chamber brakes that attempt to diffuse concussion. The MAMS is 2 piece construction that's welded in place, the Sintercore is 3D printed out of Inconel. While both the MAMS and 3DX are great devices they are pricey, $223.56 for the 3DX and $299.95 for the MAMS. The CAGE/Gamma combo can be had for $109.99 at Rainier Arms.
It may not be the perfect muzzle device, but it is a nice option for taming your brake for the public range.
Link to the Sintercore 3DX:
http://sintercore.com/brake/
Link to the KAC MAMS:
http://www.knightarmco.com/portfolio/3704-2/
Rainier Arms CAGE combo link:
http://www.rainierarms.com/vg6-cage-device-combo
Aragorn
12 May 2015, 10:05
Not to put words in Jayden's mouth but my take on the cage wasn't to exclusively tame their muzzle brakes but to give you another option. For guys like me who shoot on a farm often by myself, I like to run a brake. But I when I rarely go to a public range an option like installing a CAGE is more convenient than changing muzzle devices.
I guess you could compare the CAGE/Gamma combo to either the KAC MAMS or Sintercore 3DX. All 3 devices are 2 chamber brakes that attempt to diffuse concussion. The MAMS is 2 piece construction that's welded in place, the Sintercore is 3D printed out of Inconel. While both the MAMS and 3DX are great devices they are pricey, $223.56 for the 3DX and $299.95 for the MAMS. The CAGE/Gamma combo can be had for $109.99 at Rainier Arms.
It may not be the perfect muzzle device, but it is a nice option for taming your brake for the public range.
Link to the Sintercore 3DX:
http://sintercore.com/brake/
Link to the KAC MAMS:
http://www.knightarmco.com/portfolio/3704-2/
Rainier Arms CAGE combo link:
http://www.rainierarms.com/vg6-cage-device-combo
^^^Ok this makes the most sense to me.
I know the MAMS and the Sintercore are also supposed to help with flash, which from night videos they *kinda* seem to do. Does the CAGE assist with this as well? It looks like it would still flash like a Battlecomps or Dynacomp.
The EFAB I have no shit flashes less than an A2. At least out of a 16" middy shooting surplus M193 which seems like a fairly standard reference. But it's also a heavy muzzle device and requires installation with metal accu-washers, which also concerns me with how easy it is to over torque. It doesn't brake as well as some others from a purely brake standpoint, but is still pretty damn good.
If the CAGE could approach that performance, for me it may suddenly be worth looking into.
I've not used my CAGE yet so I don't know if it helps with flash. I bought the CAGE combo cause I wanted a Gamma and it was only about $15 more. I've got an AFAB mini and have heard good things about the EFAB. You should post a review on the EFAB. My AFAB seems to handle slightly better than a Battlecomp.
Aragorn
12 May 2015, 10:40
I've got an AFAB mini and have heard good things about the EFAB. You should post a review on the EFAB. My AFAB seems to handle slightly better than a Battlecomp.
I've got a range trip planned this weekend. I can make that happen.
I've got a range trip planned this weekend. I can make that happen.
Cool, would like to hear in detail what you think of the EFAB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eQ1v92okAho
mustangfreek
1 July 2015, 03:00
Nice!!
I want to try one of these on my epsilon for curiousity...
I've not used my CAGE yet so I don't know if it helps with flash. I bought the CAGE combo cause I wanted a Gamma and it was only about $15 more. I've got an AFAB mini and have heard good things about the EFAB. You should post a review on the EFAB. My AFAB seems to handle slightly better than a Battlecomp.
Supposedly, after its all said and done, the AFAB Minis (I've owned a few) actually brake better than the newer EFABs.
Great vid BTW!
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