Help with BCG selection

[RobSWVA]

I'm sure this has been covered quite a few times, but maybe a new thread can help some others as well as myself. Plan on picking up a BCG in the next couple/few weeks as the last purchase for my build. Just wanted to get some opinions on a couple things from you guys, as I know that ya'll have more experience with different brands and types of BCG's.

So I am trying to find a fair balance between cost and quality first of all. There are a ton of options out there, so what do you think are some good manufacturers to make a shortlist out of without breaking the wallet?

secondly, compared to most of you guys I will be a light to moderate shooter, so is the NiB worth the extra expense for me? I dont mind shelling out a few more bucks at all, but no point in doing so if it would be considered a waste.

thanks for ya'll's help on pointing me in the right direction, and any further considerations you think I should add to these two questions will be welcomed as well.

[okdonk]

BCM is always my first choice. 2nd is the UCWRG premium BCG.

[DutyUse]

FN, CMT, Colt, DD & LMT originally produced BCGs are all gtg.

I've never had the chance to run NiB personally as quality Phosphate BCGs have served me well and have a proven track record.. However I want to get my hands on RA nickel boron at some point.

Currently running a Fathom Arms enhanced nitride BCG in one upper and really liking it.

Like Okdonk said before me, can't go wrong on a BCM..





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[GOST]

I've got one NiB coated BCG and the only advantage it has over a phosphate coated one is that it cleans easier. The NiB does not hold lube in place as well as my phosphate coated BCG's. They say the NiB needs less lube, but I like to lube my BCG's to death. So if paying more for less cleaning is worth it is your call.

I love BCM, but think their BCG's are over priced. Not saying that the BCM BCG's are not good, but other good BCG's can be had for less. CMT makes a good BCG. I know they used to make Noveske's, not sure if they still do.

Aim Surplus has very well priced BCG's. I've never used one of theirs though, but they get good reviews. If you're wanting a BCM though I believe that Rainier Arms has the best price $169.

http://www.rainierarms.com/bcm-bolt-carrier-group-full-auto

[BoilerUp]

In my opinion, you have to decide if you are comfortable paying a premium for a BCG that you KNOW is top quality (and risk paying more than you really needed to) or if you are comfortable saving some money and getting a BCG that is probably high quality and will meet your needs just as well, but leaves you with a bit of doubt as the product is less well known.

If I just wanted to pay once and never look back, then I agree that the BCM is safe bet. I'd also put Daniel Defense, Colt and LMT in that category (I'd probably purchase the DD, personally). My SHTF carbine is LMT.

Now, if this is a fun gun and you're not likely to be trusting your life to its reliability and money is tight, then you have a few other options. I think the v2 nitride from AIM looks like a smoking deal: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBCGV2&name=AIM+v2+BLACK+NITRIDE+.223%2f5.56%2f.300+BLACK OUT+AR%2fM16+C158+Bolt+Carrier+Group&groupid=723

If you are patient, Rainier typically runs specials on their BCGs once or twice a year (I picked one up for $99 about a year ago)

And the Palmetto Premium series should be just fine (stick with their Premium line) http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/2321/category/4453/

Also, I think some of the members here can vouch for the Ares Armor BCGs: http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/nickel_boron_bolt_carrier_group

And I wouldn't lose any sleep running an AeroPrecision BCG but wouldn't pay list price (they run sales frequently...I'd say it's attractive at $100): http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=74

All my BCG's are phosphate but my next purchase will be a nitride treated BCG. I've come to the conclusion (opinion) that this is superior to NiB and expect it to improve the durability of the BCG as well as make it easier to clean. My next BCG purchase will likely be the VooDoo with integral gas key and nitride ("LifeCoat") treatment, but I'm also putting it in a rifle that will be a range and perhaps a hunting rifle.

If you do go with a lower cost option, just compare the specs to the BCM/DD/Colt BCGs of the world. Several of the lower cost options are to the same specs and the cost difference is driven in part by the QC process (random spot checks instead of individual inspections). Of course, some of the difference is driven by brand.

At the end of the day, it's a value judgement and those are different for each of us which is why the market can support so many suppliers.

[Tyrannosaur]

Check out Fathom Arms enhanced BCG, I was very impressed and as you will read in other threads about the customer service.

[alamo5000]

I am far from an expert in this area but I am using a rainier arms phosphate BCG. I have had zero problems with it. I know people say Nib is easier to clean and that might be true to some extent. But if you use modern cleaning stuff like Seal1, Froglube, or a few others it is just better in my opinion. This is an outside variable but a very important one.

Mine actually repels carbon and can be wiped off with a paper towel after use. If you use traditional cleaning methods then a NiB might have some minor advantages. If you use the new stuff you can use whatever you want in the way of BCG.

My main suggestions would be to buy something from a reputable manufacturer as well as something with a total bad ass look to it. :)

[RaceBannon42]

I've got a couple Fail Zero bcgs that seem pretty good so far.

[Ride4frnt]

If price is a concern, AIM surplus BDG BCG all the way. I have the NIB and NIB-X versions and love them. Phosphate is $85 I think. Great price for a no frills, do its job bcg.

[UWone77]

I love BCM, but think their BCG's are over priced. Not saying that the BCM BCG's are not good, but other good BCG's can be had for less. CMT makes a good BCG. I know they used to make Noveske's, not sure if they still do.



Well... overpriced compared to what though?

How many others are actually selling milspec carrier with C158 Bolts that are HPT/MPI'ed?

I see a lot of others selling 9310 bolts, cutting corners here and there, and because of this market we're in, everyone is undercutting each other to the $79.99 BCG. Heck, a couple of dealers got 8620 bolts dumped on them without their knowledge and they disintegrated after 20 rounds.

As always, your budget determines your gear. BCG's I like:

BCM
LMT
DD
Rainier

I also like the looks of Fathom's new Nitride standard BCG.

[alamo5000]

Well... overpriced compared to what though?

How many others are actually selling milspec carrier with C158 Bolts that are HPT/MPI'ed?

I see a lot of others selling 9310 bolts, cutting corners here and there, and because of this market we're in, everyone is undercutting each other to the $79.99 BCG. Heck, a couple of dealers got 8620 bolts dumped on them without their knowledge and they disintegrated after 20 rounds.


I don't know a lot of specific brands, or how much of the price is really 'brand' and how much is really 'product' but at the end of the day it's better to err on the side of quality. The proverbial extra 20 or 30 bucks will in the end be worth the wait.

It scares me more to get a piece of crap than it does to pay extra for someone to stand behind what they sell.

[GOST]

Well... overpriced compared to what though?

How many others are actually selling milspec carrier with C158 Bolts that are HPT/MPI'ed?

I think BCM BCG's are great quality, but I've had very similar BCG's for less. My opinion is based on what you can get CMT/Stag BCG's for. The ones I've had have been under $120 and are milspec. Noveske bolts may not be HPT but I've seen them between $140 and $150 lately. I just remember paying a lot less for the BCM BCG's I've had.

[Slippers]

I remember when complete BCGs were $120 from Bravo Company. I miss those days.

I find it very difficult to take recommendations from anyone on bolts, as it's usually too small of a sample size and/or too low of a round count. I'd only trust my money to Colt or BCM, as there are tons of them in circulation, and enough examples of high round counts to show reliability and quality. An extra $50 to know it's made properly is hardly anything in the grand scheme of ammunition costs. Besides the barrel, there's really nothing else more important for proper functioning on the rifle.

[alamo5000]

An extra $50 to know it's made properly is hardly anything in the grand scheme of ammunition costs. Besides the barrel, there's really nothing else more important for proper functioning on the rifle.

For such a vital part I am with you. For the 'extra' cost equivalent to a small box of 100 rounds of ammo at bought at Wal Mart you can have a guaranteed quality part. Save money? Maybe or maybe not. Your chances are 50/50 if you save or don't save.

[DutyUse]

I remember when complete BCGs were $120 from Bravo Company. I miss those days.
.

I wish I could roll the clock back and get one of the now long discontinued BCM ionbond BCGs.. Oh well live and learn. Back then I remember thinking pay 30$ more?!?!? Haha..

I think some guys get a little wrapped around the axel about BCG's and then get some cheap barrel. Yes there a critical component. But If you just plinkin at some cans and NOT going to consider it for home defense, whatever you get 99.9% chance it'll be a-ok.

However if your counting on it to protect you and the ones you love. For gods sake yes spend the few extra bucks... Get a phosphate as your first. Another rifle later go nuts. But stick with a proven design.

I'd like to try NiB but not because of the cleaning aspect. Dunno why people dread cleaning their rifles? You learn a lot about how it operates and it's current condition and I personally enjoy it.

Also remember in the long run the cost of the rifle will pale in comparison to how much it costs to feed them.





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[GOST]

I've not said that the BCM BCG is a bad product, but that other very good quality BCG's can be had for less. Continental Machine and Tool makes very good BCG's without cutting any corners. They manufacture components for many companies including Colt and Noveske. My only complaint of BCM's BCG is the price. The price went up after the Sandy Hook shooting, and the only price drop has been the removal of the NRA contribution.

[JHoward]

I agree. BCM BCG's should be around $160 again and they would be a legitimate "best" option. I only run BCM BCG's, but I do not like paying that much.

[JHoward]

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?166178-NIB-BCM-BCG

[RobSWVA]

I've got one NiB coated BCG and the only advantage it has over a phosphate coated one is that it cleans easier. The NiB does not hold lube in place as well as my phosphate coated BCG's. They say the NiB needs less lube, but I like to lube my BCG's to death. So if paying more for less cleaning is worth it is your call.

I love BCM, but think their BCG's are over priced. Not saying that the BCM BCG's are not good, but other good BCG's can be had for less. CMT makes a good BCG. I know they used to make Noveske's, not sure if they still do.

Aim Surplus has very well priced BCG's. I've never used one of theirs though, but they get good reviews. If you're wanting a BCM though I believe that Rainier Arms has the best price $169.

http://www.rainierarms.com/bcm-bolt-carrier-group-full-auto

yeah, I have a few options bookmarked in my browser, and CMT is one of em

[GOST]

Not to offend anyone but the current AR market follows trends. About everyone on every forum says to buy BCM's BCG, but when you look at the rifles they have assembled not many have a BCM BCG. Most now feature a nitride BCG. So do people believe that nitride is superior to phosphate? I've not used a nitride BCG so I can't answer that question.

[RobSWVA]

In my opinion, you have to decide if you are comfortable paying a premium for a BCG that you KNOW is top quality (and risk paying more than you really needed to) or if you are comfortable saving some money and getting a BCG that is probably high quality and will meet your needs just as well, but leaves you with a bit of doubt as the product is less well known.

If I just wanted to pay once and never look back, then I agree that the BCM is safe bet. I'd also put Daniel Defense, Colt and LMT in that category (I'd probably purchase the DD, personally). My SHTF carbine is LMT.

Now, if this is a fun gun and you're not likely to be trusting your life to its reliability and money is tight, then you have a few other options. I think the v2 nitride from AIM looks like a smoking deal: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBCGV2&name=AIM+v2+BLACK+NITRIDE+.223%2f5.56%2f.300+BLACK OUT+AR%2fM16+C158+Bolt+Carrier+Group&groupid=723

If you are patient, Rainier typically runs specials on their BCGs once or twice a year (I picked one up for $99 about a year ago)

And the Palmetto Premium series should be just fine (stick with their Premium line) http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/2321/category/4453/

Also, I think some of the members here can vouch for the Ares Armor BCGs: http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/nickel_boron_bolt_carrier_group

And I wouldn't lose any sleep running an AeroPrecision BCG but wouldn't pay list price (they run sales frequently...I'd say it's attractive at $100): http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=74

All my BCG's are phosphate but my next purchase will be a nitride treated BCG. I've come to the conclusion (opinion) that this is superior to NiB and expect it to improve the durability of the BCG as well as make it easier to clean. My next BCG purchase will likely be the VooDoo with integral gas key and nitride ("LifeCoat") treatment, but I'm also putting it in a rifle that will be a range and perhaps a hunting rifle.

If you do go with a lower cost option, just compare the specs to the BCM/DD/Colt BCGs of the world. Several of the lower cost options are to the same specs and the cost difference is driven in part by the QC process (random spot checks instead of individual inspections). Of course, some of the difference is driven by brand.

At the end of the day, it's a value judgement and those are different for each of us which is why the market can support so many suppliers.

Well, I'm not trying to go bottom dollar and expect the best thing on the market. I dont mind to pay for a good BCG, I'm just looking at balancing the cost and quality versus paying for a name. I've been expecting to put out around 150, which should put me well within the ballpark of quite a few decent manfacturers

[GOST]

Sorry to clutter up your thread Rob.

[RobSWVA]

I am far from an expert in this area but I am using a rainier arms phosphate BCG. I have had zero problems with it. I know people say Nib is easier to clean and that might be true to some extent. But if you use modern cleaning stuff like Seal1, Froglube, or a few others it is just better in my opinion. This is an outside variable but a very important one.

Mine actually repels carbon and can be wiped off with a paper towel after use. If you use traditional cleaning methods then a NiB might have some minor advantages. If you use the new stuff you can use whatever you want in the way of BCG.

My main suggestions would be to buy something from a reputable manufacturer as well as something with a total bad ass look to it. :)

yeah, I have already treated it with froglube while its sitting around waiting to be finished and fired, so will probably stick with the toad juice for a while. plus after ordering their clamshell kit, then a 4oz tub of paste, I won a froglube tube kit in a FB giveaway, so I've got plenty to use up, lol.

[RobSWVA]

Sorry to clutter up your thread Rob.

by all means gost, clutter away. I know I'm asking about specifics, but I dont give a rats ass if we meander a bit in the process. I enjoy the thread growing legs for a while to be honest

[RobSWVA]

I agree. BCM BCG's should be around $160 again and they would be a legitimate "best" option. I only run BCM BCG's, but I do not like paying that much.

BCM has their BCG currently listed at 169, which is definitely within my spending range. says its HPT and MPI, so I guess you cant go wrong there for that price. I think that one is the first in my short list now

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm-bolt-carrier-group-auto-mp.htm

[VIPER 237]

Bcm is tough to beat, I would also look at Griffin Armament's enhanced bcg. It is a melonite finish and the machining is every bit as good as JP's, it is smoooth.

I wish I could find the mil document, but the recommendation was that 9310 is superior to C158, but due to cost it wasn't a feasible upgrade as per pound it does cost more.

[DutyUse]

I've not said that the BCM BCG is a bad product, but that other very good quality BCG's can be had for less. Continental Machine and Tool makes very good BCG's without cutting any corners. They manufacture components for many companies including Colt and Noveske. My only complaint of BCM's BCG is the price. The price went up after the Sandy Hook shooting, and the only price drop has been the removal of the NRA contribution.

There are only a handful of companies who actually machine carriers and bolts. It's almost certain CMT, FN and Tool Craft have been employed to make the BCM BCG to bravos specs (which is top notch).

In the past Colt did not make their own BCG. However in an article by guns and ammo they visited the CT colt factory and it specifically mentioned since Colt lost the contract for the M4 to FN they invested heavily into modern productions and new machines and now produce 100% of their own parts. Under that portion was a photo of a BCG being produced on a mill there in house. I have the article and photos, it's a good read if you'd like me to send it. I'm a Colt fanboy at heart, I'm just not myopic in my purchasing.

As far as nitride, I'm still on the fence as a BCG coating. It cleans easily, the finish is excellent and far more consistent then phosphate. Only time will tell. I'm getting really close to 500 rounds on the fathom and I'll probably keep going to a 1000 for my own curiosities before I review it.. Still no extra oil since I first started and still not cleaned. 0 malfunctions. I want to try a 100 rounds of wolf as it's seen almost exclusively federal 193. So far I'm impressed, my other BCG's would be getting filthy by now..but I'd really like to see someone get 10-20k+ rounds on one to see the long-term durability.

[Former11B]

I am far from an expert in this area but I am using a rainier arms phosphate BCG. I have had zero problems with it. I know people say Nib is easier to clean and that might be true to some extent. But if you use modern cleaning stuff like Seal1, Froglube, or a few others it is just better in my opinion. This is an outside variable but a very important one.

Mine actually repels carbon and can be wiped off with a paper towel after use. If you use traditional cleaning methods then a NiB might have some minor advantages. If you use the new stuff you can use whatever you want in the way of BCG.

My main suggestions would be to buy something from a reputable manufacturer as well as something with a total bad ass look to it. :)


A good lubricant is important, but a surface like NiB is way easier to clean after suppressed shooting than a phosphate one, even when using Frog Lube. The NiB finish tarnishes/stains quickly with heat and fouling....I think a lot of people have it in mind they'll stay that new color forever. It won't if you shoot it. But it will still function the same. I'd never used a NiB BCG so I put up the $180 to test and see how it performed

[RobSWVA]

After reading up on Aero Precision taking a majority stake in their barrel manufacturer, I jumped over to check them out and found they had some BCG's on the site as well. Figure if its Aero quality, this should be on the short list as well....any opinions?

http://ballisticadvantage.com/556-bcg-phosphate.html

[six8]

After reading up on Aero Precision taking a majority stake in their barrel manufacturer, I jumped over to check them out and found they had some BCG's on the site as well. Figure if its Aero quality, this should be on the short list as well....any opinions?

http://ballisticadvantage.com/556-bcg-phosphate.html

"save10now" will get you 10% off too

[Ride4frnt]

Damage industries has all their bcgs on sale right now. 86 bucks for phosphate or nitride. Aim has nitride for 89 shipped

[RobSWVA]

"save10now" will get you 10% off too

yeah unfortunately I wont be shopping for one for another week or two

[UWone77]

After reading up on Aero Precision taking a majority stake in their barrel manufacturer, I jumped over to check them out and found they had some BCG's on the site as well. Figure if its Aero quality, this should be on the short list as well....any opinions?

http://ballisticadvantage.com/556-bcg-phosphate.html

I've used an Aero BCG on an Aero rifle for the last year. It's been fine so far.

[RobSWVA]

Damage industries has all their bcgs on sale right now. 86 bucks for phosphate or nitride. Aim has nitride for 89 shipped

yeah, i got the email from them on that, looked it over. The barrel I have on this rifle is from them as well, picked it up from Primary Arms during the black friday sales for like 65. think with taking a chance on the barrel due to price, I may stick with tried and true when it comes to the BCG. already have accepted the fact that the barrel may turn out to be a dud, but was worth a shot at that price. dont think I'll be willing to spin the wheel with my BCG

[six8]

Just ordered a DI BCG, we'll see how it goes.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Just ordered a DI BCG, we'll see how it goes.

Keep us posted. I'd like to know how it does

[greenlineaz]

I picked up a Rainier Arms BCG last year, for some reason I think it was on sale for around 80 bucks. I have 450 rounds on it right now, still haven't cleaned it, just re-lube it before I shoot. As others have stated, I would feel comfortable with a Colt, DD, LMT, BCM, Rainier Bolt for a LE/MIL application, i.e. possibly having someone's life depending on it working. If it is a range/fun gun, feel free to buy whatever.

[Fathom_Arms]

There are only a handful of companies who actually machine carriers and bolts. It's almost certain CMT, FN and Tool Craft have been employed to make the BCM BCG to bravos specs (which is top notch).

In the past Colt did not make their own BCG. However in an article by guns and ammo they visited the CT colt factory and it specifically mentioned since Colt lost the contract for the M4 to FN they invested heavily into modern productions and new machines and now produce 100% of their own parts. Under that portion was a photo of a BCG being produced on a mill there in house. I have the article and photos, it's a good read if you'd like me to send it. I'm a Colt fanboy at heart, I'm just not myopic in my purchasing.

As far as nitride, I'm still on the fence as a BCG coating. It cleans easily, the finish is excellent and far more consistent then phosphate. Only time will tell. I'm getting really close to 500 rounds on the fathom and I'll probably keep going to a 1000 for my own curiosities before I review it.. Still no extra oil since I first started and still not cleaned. 0 malfunctions. I want to try a 100 rounds of wolf as it's seen almost exclusively federal 193. So far I'm impressed, my other BCG's would be getting filthy by now..but I'd really like to see someone get 10-20k+ rounds on one to see the long-term durability.


Glad to hear the BCG is treating you well. Ranger Proof has tested this design in excess of 17,000 documented rounds in suppressed and unsuppressed. I do not think anything "scientific" was used except keeping track of round count. Feel free to run wolf. it will handle them.

EDIT: forgot to mention. Nitride is not a coating. I guess maybe the top Iron Oxide (Fe3O4) layer is since it will wear and exposes the diffusion layer. But, its considered a treatment as it diffuses into the metal surfaces and penetrates down around .0004". The shiny spots on the contact surface that you see is the nitrogen diffusion layer, not just bare metal.

We carried C158 individually tested HPT/MPI Phosphate BCGs that were off the same line as the current M16 contract. 100% to spec. Priced at $135 as well. There was not enough demand, so I got rid of the line about 2-3 months ago. Now we have moved onto a traditional style Nitride BCG to take its place. Excellent quality and will be priced at $129.99. Coming soon.

[mustangfreek]

Any good deals out there on a good 556 bolt or 2?

[Deadwing]

You really can't go wrong with a BCM, LMT, DD, UCWRG, or Noveske. I own and run all of those, and not one has given me any problems. I also run BGCs with NiB and nitride finishes. They all run fine, but the jury is still out as to whether the extra cost associated with them is worth the money. A standard phosphate BCG has never let me down.

[RobSWVA]

Yeah, I'm thinking I'll just go for a phosphate BCG for now, then once I start other builds and/or URG's, I'll play around with nitride and NiB a bit to see the differences, whether good or bad, and make my preference choice from there. Thanks for all the imput guys, keep it coming!

[Deadwing]

Any good deals out there on a good 556 bolt or 2?

ROG Tactical has Daniel Defense bolts for $67.95 + free shipping. Using coupon code "facebook" brings it down to $64.55. Not too shabby for a C158 bolt.

http://www.rogtac.com/daniel-defense-556-bolt-assembly/

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Any good deals out there on a good 556 bolt or 2?

http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/p178/MDWS_NiB_5.56%2F.223_Bolt_-_Complete.html

$39.99 for a NIB bolt. I've got 2 bolts from him and they're GTG.

[toolboxluis00200]

Any good deals out there on a good 556 bolt or 2?

AIM has this new Bolt kit on ther web site
http://aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBAKNIB&name=AIM+NIB+.223%2f5.56+BAK-UP+%28Bolt+Assembly+Kit%29+for+AR+type+Rifles&groupid=6

[UWone77]

http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/p178/MDWS_NiB_5.56%2F.223_Bolt_-_Complete.html

$39.99 for a NIB bolt. I've got 2 bolts from him and they're GTG.

C158 MPI/HPT That looks like a deal.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

C158 MPI/HPT That looks like a deal.

Indeed!

[mustangfreek]

http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/p178/MDWS_NiB_5.56%2F.223_Bolt_-_Complete.html

Ya i studdered on that and missed out

$39.99 for a NIB bolt. I've got 2 bolts from him and they're GTG.

Humm....just what im after..

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Humm....just what im after..

Glad to help did you pick one up?

[Tyrannosaur]

At that price I got one yesterday. Thanks for the link

[SINNER]

Thats a deal for those bolts.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

He added a couple more if anyone still wants one. And take a look around if he has it in stock it's usually at a good price! If he doesn't have it he can usually get.

[RobSWVA]

not to mention that the complete NiB BCG is only 130. that makes one consider the NiB instead of a phosphate BCG....

[RobSWVA]

LMAO, I love the fact that it's sold out...

http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/p21/MDWS_Tactical_Throwing_Rock.html

[Eric]

LMAO, I love the fact that it's sold out...

http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/p21/MDWS_Tactical_Throwing_Rock.html Crap! How did I miss out on that? That looks fairly close to the FDE color I needed. [BD]

[Dstrbdmedic167]

^^ he can make a custom one for you lol

[RobSWVA]

^^ he can make a custom one for you lol

lol, maybe if I throw in the T.T.R. he will raincheck the sales price on the 16" 277 barrel they have on sale right now until I can pick one up

[Dstrbdmedic167]

lol, maybe if I throw in the T.T.R. he will raincheck the sales price on the 16" 277 barrel they have on sale right now until I can pick one up

When you get ready let me know. I'm sure he will look after you.

[RobSWVA]

Need to post a quick clarification. I mixed up my companies/orders and stated that I ordered my barrel from Damage Industries when it was Radical Firearms that made my barrel. I had ordered my lower parts from Damage Industries. So, me stating that I was taking a chance on an unproven (to me and others I've spoken with) manufacturer, I erred and labeled the wrong company as a possible dud.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/12/1258c3a51578edf7fa5e147b1414d8caba499cef0a431246b8 7369e14ad78d1d.jpg

[mustangfreek]

Glad to help did you pick one up?


Just seen this bud, ya scraped up some change and ordered one, first time ordering and whoever is on the ball..quick shipping..

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Just seen this bud, ya scraped up some change and ordered one, first time ordering and whoever is on the ball..quick shipping..

Yea mark is a one man operation. He is on the ball.

[Tyrannosaur]

Anyone interested in a new, unopened BCM BCG with upgraded o ring included? I bought it after "the scare" but haven't done anything with it. Asking $170 shipped. If you need references let me know

[UWone77]

Anyone interested in a new, unopened BCM BCG with upgraded o ring included? I bought it after "the scare" but haven't done anything with it. Asking $170 shipped. If you need references let me know

You'd probably get more interest if you posted a for sale thread in the classifieds and maybe a link to the product: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm-bolt-carrier-group-auto-mp.htm

[Tyrannosaur]

Thank you, I'm not so good with posting and real bad with pics. I will try to get one later.

[RobSWVA]

Well, since I now have the funds to finish this rifle build as well as get the stuff ordered for my .277 urg, I've been doing some more online window shopping. I was bouncing between sites and looked at PSA's premium full auto bcg. its about $60 cheaper than the BCM (109.99 vs 169), and as I am naturally a penny pincher, was wondering if anyone had any experience with this bcg and had any positive or negative feedback to provide. I have no problem spending the extra money where it counts, but why not save half of ol ben's ass when its a solid alternative? Any recommendations on this situation is greatly appreciated.

here is the link to the PSA bcg if anyone else wanted to check it out.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/2321/category/332/

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Well, since I now have the funds to finish this rifle build as well as get the stuff ordered for my .277 urg, I've been doing some more online window shopping. I was bouncing between sites and looked at PSA's premium full auto bcg. its about $60 cheaper than the BCM (109.99 vs 169), and as I am naturally a penny pincher, was wondering if anyone had any experience with this bcg and had any positive or negative feedback to provide. I have no problem spending the extra money where it counts, but why not save half of ol ben's ass when its a solid alternative? Any recommendations on this situation is greatly appreciated.

here is the link to the PSA bcg if anyone else wanted to check it out.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/2321/category/332/

I've had a couple of them in the past and won't again. I've had 2 of my own and a few friends that picked some up. They were out of spec and just didn't function 100% reliably all the time. I'd spend the extra and get a better quality and save elsewhere. Just my $.02...

[RobSWVA]

I've had a couple of them in the past and won't again. I've had 2 of my own and a few friends that picked some up. They were out of spec and just didn't function 100% reliably all the time. I'd spend the extra and get a better quality and save elsewhere. Just my $.02...

and i appreciate your .02 buddy. I don't mind spending on the BCM, was just wondering if it was worth the savings is all. I have a habit of knee jerk purchases that everyone says afterwards, " why didnt you buy this instead? its just as good...", so wanted to get some feedback first. Guess I'll just go ahead and order the BCM

[mustangfreek]

ID buy a AIM BCG with a no BS warranty any and every day over PSA.....of course,, just my opinion

[Tyrannosaur]

Why not get the Fathom standard BCG, $125 you can't beat that

[DutyUse]

Why not get the Fathom standard BCG, $125 you can't beat that

I'm also a big believer in BCM bcg's being the standard all others are judged against.

However Fathom makes an amazing product. I run one of their enhanced units and it's been phenomenal. I agree for 125$ that's a smoking deal

[RobSWVA]

see, this is exactly what i mean. i almost ordered the BCM last night, but decided to wait until today. I'll have to take a look at the fathom first then, since you guys spoke up in time. thanks.

Edit: yep, I decided to go that route. All in all seems to be a great deal, plus all I hear are good things about Fathom. the bcg was a bit more than mentioned, but with shipping was still under 140 so I cant complain at all. Thanks for the heads up on that one guys. I knew about Fathom, but bouncing back and forth from site to site window shopping and you completely forget about other options [BD]

[voodoo_man]

I have a BCM BCG that I use as a "tester" for builds and when people have issues with their gun.

I do that because its awesome, cheap and "just works."

You won't be disappointed.

[mustangfreek]

Why not get the Fathom standard BCG, $125 you can't beat that

Good call, thats another bcg id like to play with, I've yet to play with a nitride one...

[GOST]

Why not get the Fathom standard BCG, $125 you can't beat that


Good call, thats another bcg id like to play with, I've yet to play with a nitride one...

Black Sheep Warrior is giving away a subdued logo version.

https://www.blacksheepwarrior.com/fathom-arms-ar15-nitride-full-auto-bcg-giveaway/

[GOST]

Black Sheep Warrior is giving away a subdued logo version.

https://www.blacksheepwarrior.com/fathom-arms-ar15-nitride-full-auto-bcg-giveaway/

Got an email where they gave it away today. The subdued logo looks good. Pic is from www.blacksheepwarrior.com.

https://www.blacksheepwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Fathom-Arms-Milspec-BCG-Subdued.jpg

[UWone77]

They might as well ship it directly to Marty...

[GOST]

Surprisingly he didn't win this one.

[Txfilmmaker]

Ha ha. I guess I missed this one. ;-) I do like seeing other WEVO members win. :)


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