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Txfilmmaker
20 March 2015, 12:58
I thought I would start my own thread instead of constantly hijacking other threads.

This rifle represents a bit of a journey, gifts from God (winning stuff), the love of my family. My kids loved buying me the BCM grip, B5 buttstock, etc. It's what makes it special. It has a story. If I just wanted a rifle and had $800, I probably would have followed UWone77's advice and bought a Colt. I tend to obsess over buying stuff, because I can't afford to be wrong. If money was not an object and I had not won all of my parts, I probably would have just purchased a complete BCM or Daniel Defense rifle. Probably the BCM because I don't like the new grip or buttstock on the DD. Those barrels are in the same arena as the Mountain Series. The Ballistic Advantage Hanson barrel was appealing because of the price and having several people recommend it. But, it's newer and not as proven as a Mountain Series barrel or DD, BCM, etc. I have an instructor friend who just shoots Stag Arms rifles. He is a lefty, but he also just wants a good solid budget rifle. He did not buy their "plus" package. He was given an Aimpoint to put on it. He can afford to spend as much as anyone, but he chooses not to spend a lot. He purchased a muzzle brake and a very good trigger, but that's all. He can out shoot most competitive shooters with far more expensive rifles. He may not be nationally known, but people who have gone to Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, etc. have told me he is as good as they get. He told me to choose based on budget and not worry about it. "It wouldn't matter." In my case, it probably doesn't matter, but I still like to have quality and I like that my friends here are part of the story of my rifle. The consensus seems to point towards the Mountain Series barrel. The great arbiter of the AR, Obi UWone77 Kenobi has ask good questions and given good feedback. I believe that even led to him getting Rainier to put the Mountain Series on sale. Many of you have stated how helpful he has been to your own builds. One of the members has even (graciously) offered to permanently pin a BCM gas block on it and not charge me for labor. I'll let him tell on himself. I don't want to mention who offered in case he gets barraged with requests. Additionally, I like the idea of buying from Rainier Arms. The Samson rail I won came from Revolvr App. I'm pretty sure that is one of there companies. I read that Gost and DutyUse have mentioned liking LW barrels. I like the way the lighter rifles handle. If I already had the rifle I'm building, I would totally be into getting a 14.5" LW rifle. It may seem trivial, but I don't like how skinny the 16" LW barrels look and if I had a 14.5" version, I would want the 13" KMR to cover most of it up. Weird, I know... Gost PMed me about 16" version. If I could see it in person, I "might could" (Texas colloquialism) go that route? Maybe not? I believe BoilerUp is an engineer with a masters degree. He was pretty fond of the price/performance ratio of Melonite barrels. Ballistic Advantage Hanson anyone? ;-) Alamo5000's input has been very helpful as well. He has sent me a lot of great info and things to think about. Point being, I have had a lot of good feed back. It's hard to get inside other's heads and know, definitively, what to advise. When money becomes less of a problem, I will likely take carbine classes and try out 3 gun. My instructor friend has offered me a free carbine class and to loan me whatever I need to try out 3 gun. Including ammo. I'm sure I will put my rifle on a bench and shoot for groups here and there. However, when I think of shooting for tight groups, I think of getting what Kyle Defoor recommends for an "Everyman" hunting rifle. Or something similar. http://kyledefoor.tumblr.com/post/32826327608/everyman-hunting-rifle-part-1-the-action
That's kind of a glimpse of where my head is at. There are others who have helped with advice as well. Sorry if you weren't duly credited.

DutyUse
20 March 2015, 13:41
DD LW (https://dsgarms.com/dd-9083?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Daniel%20Defense%2014.5&utm_campaign=DSG%27s%20Pot%20Of%20Gold)


Found this today. Good deal for a 14.5 chf LW.

Edit: Nm.. This is a carbine gas barrel. Guess that's why it's priced low.

toolboxluis00200
20 March 2015, 13:53
[BD][BD]
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x151/toolboxluis/c8a_zps0tsqp6cp.gif (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/toolboxluis/media/c8a_zps0tsqp6cp.gif.html)
just kidding i did reaD IT

i got to shoot this last night is a friends 3gun rifle its a LW build it was lighter than my SBR
https://flic.kr/p/rqGMxh

Txfilmmaker
20 March 2015, 14:44
[BD][BD]
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x151/toolboxluis/c8a_zps0tsqp6cp.gif (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/toolboxluis/media/c8a_zps0tsqp6cp.gif.html)
just kidding i did reaD IT

i got to shoot this last night is a friends 3gun rifle its a LW build it was lighter than my SBR
https://flic.kr/p/rqGMxh

I did not know you could dance that well, Luis. (BD) Thanks for sharing both of the videos .


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Txfilmmaker
20 March 2015, 14:47
DD LW (https://dsgarms.com/dd-9083?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Daniel%20Defense%2014.5&utm_campaign=DSG%27s%20Pot%20Of%20Gold)


Found this today. Good deal for a 14.5 chf LW.

Edit: Nm.. This is a carbine gas barrel. Guess that's why it's priced low.

Seems like I read that 14.5" Carbine length systems are a bit more reliable. DD sells both versions for $15 more on there website.


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Ride4frnt
20 March 2015, 14:56
My advice. Don't do a 14.5". They are nice to have, but I'd do 16 first. Eventually you'll wanna change that muzzle device. I made that mistake, and still don't have a 16" 5.66 gun

toolboxluis00200
20 March 2015, 15:01
I did not know you could dance that well, Luis. (BD) Thanks for sharing both of the videos .


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if you need info on his rifle just ask i can email him and get you a part list

Txfilmmaker
20 March 2015, 15:15
if you need info on his rifle just ask i can email him and get you a part list

I have most of the parts, Luis. It's really just down to the barrel, barrel nut, gas tube, gas block, forward assist and some sites. Thanks though....


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Txfilmmaker
20 March 2015, 15:25
My advice. Don't do a 14.5". They are nice to have, but I'd do 16 first. Eventually you'll wanna change that muzzle device. I made that mistake, and still don't have a 16" 5.66 gun

I'd like a 14.5". Like you, most people suggest against it. I have two muzzle devices that I won. One is a Dragon and the other is a White Sound Defense FOSSA 556 three prong flash hider. It's supposed to be great at hiding the flash and it has some muzzle rise mitigation properties to it. Still debating on which one to use. Since I mix audio, I'm protective of my ears. However, I noticed most people in the carbine classes run muzzle brakes And one more probably won't make much of a difference. TBD. I would like stay under 7lbs. I'm not sure if billet receivers are heavier. My friends 16" Stag Arms 2, with FSB seems like a reasonable weight. My hanguard is a fairly light weight Samson Keymod. 12.37". Here is a link to a review of the flash hider. I don't see much muzzle rise. It's the first thing I won back in February of 2014. http://youtu.be/4_QEP_tWktQ


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Ride4frnt
20 March 2015, 15:44
Run the dragon. I also have a barrel nut for the Samson (it takes standard nut right?) that I can send you.

Txfilmmaker
20 March 2015, 15:46
Run the dragon. I also have a barrel nut for the Samson (it takes standard nut right?) that I can send you.

Yes. It takes a standard barrel nut. Thanks!

Ride4frnt
20 March 2015, 15:47
PM me your address, I'll send it out next week. Have some other things to send to people to so I'll kill two birds.

Txfilmmaker
20 March 2015, 15:48
PM me your address, I'll send it out next week. Have some other things to send to people to so I'll kill two birds.

Thanks a lot!

DutyUse
20 March 2015, 16:43
I'd run the dragon too

Txfilmmaker
21 March 2015, 11:21
I'd run the dragon too

I will start with the Dragon and see how it goes. I was offered a free barrel this morning from my instructor friend. :) The only catch is that it's coming off a left-handed upper. It may need a different barrel extension. He is going to call Stag Arms on Monday to see. I hope it works because it would give me time and ammo money to start using it. Then, if I decide I really like the Dragon, I could get a 14.5" barrel. That would be my preference if I was settled in on a muzzle device. Oops, never mind. Looks like that barrel is not going to happen.


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toolboxluis00200
21 March 2015, 11:41
I have most of the parts, Luis. It's really just down to the barrel, barrel nut, gas tube, gas block, forward assist and some sites. Thanks though....


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ok buddy :)

Txfilmmaker
21 March 2015, 11:45
ok buddy :)

I appreciate you, Luis. 😊


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