Surefire Warden

[GOST]

http://cdn.surefire.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/a/warden-bk_1_3.png

The Surefire Warden mounts to SF SOCOM adapters (via the SureFire Quick Attach mechanism) and pushes the concussion of the muzzle brake forward, away from the shooter.

http://www.surefire.com

[Naytwan]

Now I regret going with the procomp instead of the socom brake. Been wanting one of these devices.

[Liberal_Strong]

are there any further info about this new product? its certainly not on the website and i didnt get a chance to check out there booths for too long at NRA meet. also any news about the new warcomp too?

[Slippers]

Surefire was pretty smart making it look like a mini-suppressor. :)

[UWone77]

Surefire was pretty smart making it look like a mini-suppressor. :)

Maybe you can actually get the warden off after sustained fire unlike their suppressors... I can only hope the similarities end at looks!

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Maybe you can actually get the warden off after sustained fire unlike their suppressors... I can only hope the similarities end at looks!

Wishful thinking is always nice.

[Slippers]

Maybe you can actually get the warden off after sustained fire unlike their suppressors... I can only hope the similarities end at looks!

I didn't realize this was a problem. Even smacking it with your palm doesn't loosen it enough?

[UWone77]

I didn't realize this was a problem. Even smacking it with your palm doesn't loosen it enough?

600 rounds on FA might have had something to do with it. [BD]

Surefire's cans are really overrated IMHO.

[Slippers]

The supposed reduced backpressure is of interest to me, but it's not like I'm going to be buying one anytime soon. I thought my saker was carbon welded on after a carbine class, but I didn't know the trick of whacking the end of the can with my palm once in opposite directions was all it took to let it come off easily.

[UWone77]

I have 3 Surefire Can's 2 SOCOM's and 1 FA212. I see no difference between the backpressure/Db levels/performance of the Legacy vs SOCOM suppressors. Now maybe with instruments there are quantifiable improvements to measure, but for $1200, I expected more from generation to generation on the suppressors. Overall, I feel like my AAC cans at half the price are just as good.

I think the trick to getting your can off is to remove it while it's still hot, before the carbon acts like super glue. I've started to use my Griffon HMMS to get a handle on the suppressor while still hot.

[tact]

I think the trick to getting your can off is to remove it while it's still hot, before the carbon acts like super glue. I've started to use my Griffon HMMS to get a handle on the suppressor while still hot.

Agree...although I'm using the Rifles Only version of the HMMS. Half the price for the same thing.

[MoxyDave]

The instructions for my AAC SPR/M4 state that you should remove the suppressor at least every 200 rounds to prevent it locking up due to vaporized copper. I suspect 600 rounds on full auto would weld any suppressor on pretty good [:)]

[UWone77]

The instructions for my AAC SPR/M4 state that you should remove the suppressor at least every 200 rounds to prevent it locking up due to vaporized copper. I suspect 600 rounds on full auto would weld any suppressor on pretty good [:)]

Dave get out of here with your reasonable logic. [:D]

[Dstrbdmedic167]

I use a light dab of antiseize from time to time. I haven't had an issue as of yet.

[toolboxluis00200]

never had this issue it my 22 can [BD][BD]

[voodoo_man]

...can you shoot this one off too?

[gatordev]

I have 3 Surefire Can's 2 SOCOM's and 1 FA212. I see no difference between the backpressure/Db levels/performance of the Legacy vs SOCOM suppressors. Now maybe with instruments there are quantifiable improvements to measure, but for $1200, I expected more from generation to generation on the suppressors. Overall, I feel like my AAC cans at half the price are just as good.

I think the trick to getting your can off is to remove it while it's still hot, before the carbon acts like super glue. I've started to use my Griffon HMMS to get a handle on the suppressor while still hot.

I haven't had the same issues with my SOCOM sticking like I have with my 212. I have found removing either while it's still hot helps, but the much bigger plus with the SOCOM for me is that the brake mount doesn't seem to prevent the can from going on when it's got a lot of build up, unlike the -212 brake mounts. I have to clean the -212 brake mounts every so often so the suppressor will be able to slide on far enough to lock. I don't have that issue with the new brakes/can. FWIW, I also haven't had that issue with the legacy -212A flash-hider, either.

The two reasons that I've continued to be happy with my Surefires were the very reason I bought them: 1) weight and 2) consistent POI shift when removed and reinstalled, especially for my precision guns.


...can you shoot this one off too?

I've done it with a -212. Warning for those lacking the same forethought I did: don't shoot off a tan/FDE can into dry grass. It's a bitch to find.

[turkishroy]

The supposed reduced backpressure is of interest to me, but it's not like I'm going to be buying one anytime soon. I thought my saker was carbon welded on after a carbine class, but I didn't know the trick of whacking the end of the can with my palm once in opposite directions was all it took to let it come off easily.

I'll have to try that. My saker got stuck and I ended up having to have the RSO help me get it off. He held the brake flats and it took two hands for me to completely ratchet my saker off as it backed off the MAAD mount.

I contacted Silencerco about it and they told me to tighten the bejeezus out of the MAAD mount and that they've heard of this happening if the MAAD mount wasn't secured as tightly as possible to the saker body. I haven't had the opportunity to shoot it since though taking it on and off at the bench has proved to work just fine.

[MoxyDave]

Dave get out of here with your reasonable logic. [:D]

Ha! Now if I could just get around to cleaning my .22lr cans before they are completely full of lead ...

[Slippers]

I'll have to try that. My saker got stuck and I ended up having to have the RSO help me get it off. He held the brake flats and it took two hands for me to completely ratchet my saker off as it backed off the MAAD mount.

I contacted Silencerco about it and they told me to tighten the bejeezus out of the MAAD mount and that they've heard of this happening if the MAAD mount wasn't secured as tightly as possible to the saker body. I haven't had the opportunity to shoot it since though taking it on and off at the bench has proved to work just fine.

Yep, almost the same thing that happened with mine after 300 rounds at a class. At the range I held the rifle and a friend two handed it, but it wouldn't budge. I finally used a geissele reaction rod and got it off at home. Then Silencerco gave me the tip on whacking the can with an open palm and I haven't had any trouble since. I can run a couple hundred rounds and it feels like it's locked up, but whack-whack and it comes off with no effort.

[Stickman]

Did anyone ever end up getting one of these?

[Battle Cock]

Did anyone ever end up getting one of these?

Website says coming soon. So unless somebody's got the hookup with surefire, I'm guessing no.

http://www.surefire.com/tactical-equipment/suppressor-adapters/warden.html

[Stickman]

Website says coming soon. So unless somebody's got the hookup with surefire, I'm guessing no.

http://www.surefire.com/tactical-equipment/suppressor-adapters/warden.html

Thanks, I had thought some had gotten out already, evidently not.

[Liberal_Strong]

isnt the xc1 also delayed? is this typical of surefire?

[GOST]

Available later this month.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/SureFire-Warden-Black-p/surefire-warden-bk.htm

[Battle Cock]

Gotta add this to the EOY wish list. (Though its already in the $4k range so its not all going to happen) I've been looking at defusers ever since Ferfrans released theirs and this one has caught my eye more than the rest. I'm curious about its performance though.

[velocity2006]

Got notice this morning it's in stock with BCM.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/SureFire-Warden-Black-p/surefire-warden-bk.htm

[Ratfink]

I got mine in the mail and took it out shooting. It's nice and locks up quick and easy. Love it


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