Thought I'd try out the shockwave pistol stabilizer

[TA7969]

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Initial impressions are very positive. Sure as hell looks better than the sig brace and so far I'm liking it better than the Thordsen setup I've been running on it.
Don't mind the missing front sight, it's got duty on another rig for now.

[Thompson]

Sweet build. Been hearing some rumbling from this new stabilizer - seems much more solid than the Sig Brace.

Interested to hear your thoughts on it.

[TA7969]

Sweet build. Been hearing some rumbling from this new stabilizer - seems much more solid than the Sig Brace.

Interested to hear your thoughts on it.

Haven't been able to shoot it yet, just got it yesterday but the sig brace really just never interested me for a multitude of reasons. This actually looks pretty good and with the kak tube it's fully adjustable and locks up tight as hell.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

These have caught my attention as well. I think I may pick one up soon.

[UWone77]

I don't pay much attention to the AR pistol market anymore, but has the ATF ruled this is not a stock? Looks more usable than the Sig Brace.

[Aragorn]

That looks to be deliberately pushing its luck with the ATF.

[Former11B]

Another product that makes me think the SBR/NFA thing is so stupid

[Thompson]

I don't pay much attention to the AR pistol market anymore, but has the ATF ruled this is not a stock? Looks more usable than the Sig Brace.
Yeah, I was surprised too.

[TA7969]

I was surprised as well but the atf deemed it legal and they send the letter with the brace/stabilizer like sig does. It specifically states no shoulder firing though lol

[Thompson]

I was surprised as well but the atf deemed it legal and they send the letter with the brace/stabilizer like sig does. It specifically states no shoulder firing though lol
... just a matter of time before the idiots start writing letters to the ATF like they did the Sig Brace.

[TA7969]

... just a matter of time before the idiots start writing letters to the ATF like they did the Sig Brace.

I have no doubt they will.

[UWone77]

In terms of just pure aesthetics, if you can't have a SBR, that is good looking.

[TA7969]

In terms of just pure aesthetics, if you can't have a SBR, that is good looking.

Totally agree.

[RiverRat]

I don't pay much attention to the AR pistol market anymore, but has the ATF ruled this is not a stock? Looks more usable than the Sig Brace.

The ATF response to Marty Ewer of Shockwave included the following (underlining for emphasis by ATF, not me):


Based on our evaluation, the FTISB finds that the forearm brace, when attached to a pistol is a “firearm” subject to the GCA provisions; however, it is not a “firearm” as defined by the NFA provided the Blade AR Pistol Stabilizer is used as originally designed and NOT used as a shoulder stock.

I'm increasingly alarmed that government agencies are opening even more doors for intent and use as a yardstick for legality - even moreso given the complete lack of evidence for SBRs and cans being problematic.

[Pyzik]

Looks much better than the sig brace and is probably a ton lighter.

The AR pistol fad is dying for me... Think I may trade mine off for an AK...

[UWone77]

Looks much better than the sig brace and is probably a ton lighter.

The AR pistol fad is dying for me... Think I may trade mine off for an AK...

I think it's dying with the shouldering ruling on the Sig Brace. I always kept a Pistol Lower with a pistol tube built up for short barreled uppers, otherwise, I wouldn't have any pistol lowers.

[JHoward]

I still love my pistol. I plan on building an SBR, but for the price and usefulness, you really can't beat an 11.5" pistol... This "brace" will be worth me checking out.

TA7969, is that extra LOP built into it? Or is there something going on with the buffer that I can't see?

[SINNER]

I have 2 Maryland legal pistol lowers. They will never be SBR's until I get out of this state. I may be incorrect in this assumption but I believe this eliminates any possibility of intent from having sub 16" barrels.

I do like the look of that brace.

[TA7969]

I still love my pistol. I plan on building an SBR, but for the price and usefulness, you really can't beat an 11.5" pistol... This "brace" will be worth me checking out.

TA7969, is that extra LOP built into it? Or is there something going on with the buffer that I can't see?

The kak tube designed specifically for this stabilizer has 12 dimples drilled in it so you can adjust the LOP with the set screw in the brace. It locks up rock solid and being able to adjust the length while having a perfectly tight lockup is awesome.
This is the only AR pistol I own but the "fad" hasn't worn off for me, I love this thing...even more so now.

[TA7969]

I was able to put a couple hundred rounds through it today...I have nothing but good things to say about it.

[JHoward]

I'm going to have to look into this....

[voodoo_man]

Sent them a few emails and never heard back....not exactly confidence inspiring.

[Thompson]

Sent them a few emails and never heard back....not exactly confidence inspiring.
Lol - what is it with you getting the short end of the stick? Law Tactical folding stock, INCOG, this. What's next? :P

[Former11B]

Considering that the ATF can't regulate how you hold an AR pistol (even though they're trying through these OPINIONS), I would use this device in the most comfortable or natural position you can. The weapon still has a pistol buffer. It's no different if you wear some padding or an LBE and put the bare tube against yourself. A pistol is a pistol; hold it however you want. Especially if it's for HD use only or something...not like anyone is looking.

I get a little ruffled when the same agency who set up mentally handicapped people in manufactured stings try to say how you can hold a legally constructed firearm

[voodoo_man]

Lol - what is it with you getting the short end of the stick? Law Tactical folding stock, INCOG, this. What's next? :P

That is a good question. Obviously this isn't the first company to just disregard emails or requests for press info, but the lack of response is normally indicative of a company that has very poor customer service and probably will do very little standing by their product.

[John Hwang]

Rainier Arms will be distributing these shortly. We just put in a large opening order. :)

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Rainier Arms will be distributing these shortly. We just put in a large opening order. :)

Now that is useful information! Need a RA branded one! 😉

[mustangfreek]

Im intrigued by one of these ..maybe..

[voodoo_man]

...don't know if want

[WHSmithIV]

Does that work on any pistol tube or do you need the kak tube?

EDIT: Never mind, I looked it up. Seems like it could actually be useful though since it's supposed to stabilize against the inside of the forearm. They are available on fleabay at just over $50 too.

[mustangfreek]

Hummm...for under 50 bux i might have to try one someday...rainier has them in stock as of this post..

https://www.rainierarms.com/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?manufacturer%5B0%5D=417