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alamo5000
28 May 2015, 11:38
Supposedly pushed back (again) to at least December 2015.


http://blog.gunlink.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/41Pdec15.jpg

http://blog.gunlink.info/2015/05/27/41p-final-ruling-pushed-back-to-at-least-december-2015/

alamo5000
28 May 2015, 11:43
It looks like it's officially delayed another six months.

alamo5000
29 May 2015, 07:58
I wish they would just go ahead and kill this thing once and for all.

GOST
29 May 2015, 08:17
41P is the best advertising tool. Since 41P was announced, I bet the e-file numbers went through the roof. Trust sales probably increased also. With 41P and the 2016 election looming, stamp collecting is probably at an all time high.

alamo5000
29 May 2015, 08:23
41P is the best advertising tool. Since 41P was announced, I bet the e-file numbers went through the roof. Trust sales probably increased also. With 41P and the 2016 election looming, stamp collecting is probably at an all time high.

Obama is the best gun salesman ever.

There is nothing like a bunch of idiots who know nothing about guns making the rules about buying guns to spur the market.

alamo5000
5 June 2015, 10:43
More update here. The House voted to block 41P outright. It was 242 to 183.

http://americansuppressorassociation.com/amendment-to-block-executive-action-atf-41p-passes-u-s-house/

GOST
5 June 2015, 11:03
good deal

UWone77
5 June 2015, 14:10
But now they're trying to reclassify AR/AK Pistols as high powered pistols and make them AOW's.

It never ends.

Dstrbdmedic167
5 June 2015, 14:12
But now they're trying to reclassify AR/AK Pistols as high powered pistols and make them AOW's.

It never ends.

Yea I read that too. So if they classify as an AOW that's a $5 stamp plus the wait right?

GaSwamper
5 June 2015, 19:16
So I wonder if this would also include single shot rifle cartridge pistols like a Contender used for hunting? Sounds like if passed it opens the door much broader if it's a high power issue. I don't know what the law classifies as high power but I consider the 44 mag to be high power myself.

alamo5000
5 June 2015, 20:00
But now they're trying to reclassify AR/AK Pistols as high powered pistols and make them AOW's.

It never ends.

I didn't see that. Who is trying to reclassify? The ATF?

toolboxluis00200
5 June 2015, 20:27
#SBRSupresorlifematers

Thompson
6 June 2015, 20:17
So I wonder if this would also include single shot rifle cartridge pistols like a Contender used for hunting? Sounds like if passed it opens the door much broader if it's a high power issue. I don't know what the law classifies as high power but I consider the 44 mag to be high power myself.
Yep - was thinking the same.

Alot like M855 and what is considered "AP"

It gonna be a long year and a half ....

Aragorn
6 June 2015, 20:53
Yep - was thinking the same.

Alot like M855 and what is considered "AP"

It gonna be a long year and a half ....

Year and a half? Hope we're so lucky. The premier democratic candidate is WAY ahead of anything on the Rupublican side, ESPECIALLY Bush 3.0, who seems most likely.

GOST
7 June 2015, 02:01
Year and a half? Hope we're so lucky. The premier democratic candidate is WAY ahead of anything on the Rupublican side, ESPECIALLY Bush 3.0, who seems most likely.

I'd say you're right, people better buy now. I'd say we've got around 8 months before prices start escalating.

SwissyJim
7 June 2015, 11:29
I'd say you're right, people better buy now. I'd say we've got around 8 months before prices start escalating.

way ahead of you... [BD]
Just did paperwork for a Salvo12 suppressor... and don't have anything it will fit on - yet. Amongst other purchases.

alamo5000
7 June 2015, 13:07
More bullshit here.


"Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gun-blogs-videos-web-forums-threatened-by-new-obama-regulation/article/2565762

SwissyJim
7 June 2015, 13:50
More bullshit here.


"Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gun-blogs-videos-web-forums-threatened-by-new-obama-regulation/article/2565762

Another article - http://bearingarms.com/constitution-obama-plans-muzzle-gun-related-speech/?utm_source=bafbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=baupdate

Thompson
7 June 2015, 20:54
Year and a half? Hope we're so lucky. The premier democratic candidate is WAY ahead of anything on the Rupublican side, ESPECIALLY Bush 3.0, who seems most likely.
Someone's gotta be optimistic [BD]


Another article - http://bearingarms.com/constitution-obama-plans-muzzle-gun-related-speech/?utm_source=bafbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=baupdate
Yeah I saw MAC posted about that earlier today ... a lot of folks are gonna wind up in jail if that goes through ...

alamo5000
7 June 2015, 21:03
Yeah I saw MAC posted about that earlier today ... a lot of folks are gonna wind up in jail if that goes through ...

There is no way in holy hell they can prevent people from speaking their minds. They can try all they want but it ain't gonna happen without serious resistance.

What I think they are trying to do is have grounds to prosecute the people who put up the plans for the printing of 3D guns online....

voodoo_man
8 June 2015, 03:28
This shit has got to end...

GOST
8 June 2015, 04:57
This shit has got to end...

Well put.

toolboxluis00200
8 June 2015, 09:15
We need to make our own country WEVOTOPIA

voodoo_man
8 June 2015, 09:23
We need to make our own country WEVOTOPIA

SBR's and suppressors in every caliber come with citizenship.

toolboxluis00200
8 June 2015, 09:42
SBR's and suppressors in every caliber come with citizenship.

And SBS and DD all so in the mix

velocity2006
8 June 2015, 10:28
A fully outfitted Little Bird would be a nice center piece for the lawn.

voodoo_man
8 June 2015, 11:03
A fully outfitted Little Bird would be a nice center piece for the lawn.

No need for helicopters, because it'll turn in to black hawk down at the ATF HQ in DC.

Thompson
8 June 2015, 18:12
This shit has got to end...
One can only hope.


SBR's and suppressors in every caliber come with citizenship.
You forgot those pesky auto sears :P

alamo5000
8 June 2015, 20:18
http://www.tacretailer.com/2015/06/02/new-rule-will-force-silencer-companies-stamp-cans/

"In its proposed rule change for the ATF, the DOJ would require all silencer manufacturers to mark their suppressors."

I thought they all had to be serialized anyway? None the less more arbitrary bullshit.

http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201504&RIN=1140-AA33

Deadwing
8 June 2015, 23:10
This shit brings my blood to a rolling f@#$ing boil.