Short Throw Ambi Safeties

[NATOgaspiston]

I'm looking for a short throw ambi safety without the thrills and name brand. We all know BAD-ASS ST selectors are the benchmark, but I'm looking for the "underdog" manufacturer, if you will. Plus the gap between the receiver and the selector on the BAD-ASS is kind of annoying to me. I have a simple forged receiver set and I want something that will line up nicely with that. I've come across the Noveske/ Magpul STS and the Strike Industries Hex Ambi Selector so far and I like both but am thinking of giving the nod the SI for the aluminum selectors over the poly on the Noveske. Anybody with first hand experience with either of these two or any other ambi sts, not named BAD-ASS, please feel free to help me out. Thanks guys.

p.s. sorry if this is in the wrong category or if this is a worn out topic. I'm new to the forum game so just bare with me guys.

[GOST]

There are a lot of good selectors on the market now, and yes Battle Arms is the benchmark. If you're not in the market for one of theirs the Seekins and AXTS are very good options, the Seekins is priced better. You often get what you pay for though and Battle Arm's customer service is second to none. There is also a Rainier Arms selector made by Battle Arms that is very nice.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Spend the extra coin and get the BAD or RA REST safety. I've gotten some cheaper off name ambi safeties in the past. They're in the parts bin now..

[NATOgaspiston]

I hear you, guys. I would hate to have to buy another ambi safety after the inexpensive one doesn't work out well. I am worried about the pin on the drum that the BAD-ASS ST's have. Don't they have to be cut (i.e. void warranty) to fit into standard forged lower? Anyone have any experience with the Viper MKII safety selector by any chance?

[GOST]

The Iron Viper is very new but looks like a good product, but cost as much as proven options. For the price I'd look at the Seekins, it's MSRP is $39.99.

[NATOgaspiston]

Is the seekins a short throw selector?

[NATOgaspiston]

also just came across the V7 hybrid 3 gun / sport safety selector. any experience?

[GOST]

Both V7 and Seekins make great products. The Seekins can be configured at either 90 or 60 degree.

[NATOgaspiston]

once again, thanks for all of your help GOST. I think I will go with the v7 sport safety selector. I really like the light-weight feature. plus it looks pretty bad ass :)
http://pull01.rainier.netdna-cdn.com/media/product/440/v7-hybrid-3-gun-sport-selectors-57-degree-ambi-hyb3g57-ambi-by-v7-weapon-systems-351.jpg

[GOST]

Good deal, I've seen great reviews of their other selectors.

[SINNER]

I love the cheap Noveske ambi's that use the Magpul SCAR levers.

[mustangfreek]

Curious how those new seekins ambis are?

[UWone77]

Curious how those new seekins ambis are?

I've got a set on one of my SBR's, so far it's worked well. Positive clicks as you engage and disengage the safety. The price on the Seekins is very attractive as well.

[velocity2006]

I have recently used a few of the Strike Industries short throw levers and have been very pleased.

[mustangfreek]

I've got a set on one of my SBR's, so far it's worked well. Positive clicks as you engage and disengage the safety. The price on the Seekins is very attractive as well.

Thanks

ya they sure look good for the price

[WHSmithIV]

I have the short throw Noveske ambi safety on the 7.62x39 pistol that's almost done. I like it better than the standard safety on my rifle. I don't care that the pointer doesn't go all the way 'fire'. You know that it's in fire position anyway and I do like that I can flip it from either side. I did notice too when installing it that I could have changed it from 60 to 90 degrees also. I left it at 60 degrees.

[RogerRonas]

I have a question on these safety selectors. On the short throw I thought I read that some were from fire to 60 for safe, and some (like the BadASS) were from ther safe to 60 for fire. Does that make sense?
Which ones are cogged like the BadAss?

I like the Striker Industries if it is that way.

Roger

[GOST]

I have a question on these safety selectors. On the short throw I thought I read that some were from fire to 60 for safe, and some (like the BadASS) were from ther safe to 60 for fire. Does that make sense?
Which ones are cogged like the BadAss?

I like the Striker Industries if it is that way.

Roger

Some may have there wording messed up in their description. All the short throw selectors I've messed with are measured from the safe position.

[SINNER]

I have the short throw Noveske ambi safety on the 7.62x39 pistol that's almost done. I like it better than the standard safety on my rifle. I don't care that the pointer doesn't go all the way 'fire'. You know that it's in fire position anyway and I do like that I can flip it from either side. I did notice too when installing it that I could have changed it from 60 to 90 degrees also. I left it at 60 degrees.

I think you are mistaken that the Noveske safeties are user adjustable for either 60* or 90*. I have them on at least 10 rifles and they are definitely 60* only. The early ones actually said 57* on the package but they do not offer a choice.

[RogerRonas]

Some may have there wording messed up in their description. All the short throw selectors I've messed with are measured from the safe position.

Thank You.
So on a short throw selector, the 45-60% position would be FIRE?

Roger

[UWone77]

Thank You.
So on a short throw selector, the 45-60% position would be FIRE?

Roger

Yes.

[Duffy]

BAD-ASS-ST rotates to 50 degree to fire, close to somewhere between SAFE and FIRE.
It was changed from the original 45 degree to 50 to address compatibility issues with certain Wilson TTU triggers, not all the Wilson TTU triggers were incompatible, and these triggers in question didn't exhibit the same behavior in all the receivers.

While I was still there, we had the most complete reference on trigger compatibility. Dimensions were tweaked for the first two years of the BAD-ASS's life, all these improvements make them what they are.

60 degree is very close to the 90 degree mark, to me it almost isn't a short throw. There's a balance between speed, and creating enough distance / arc between SAFE and FIRE so a user can clearly distinguish the positions, and under stress, do not inadvertently flip it to FIRE when his intention is to simply put his thumb on the lever in the SAFE position.

On top of the two considerations mentioned above, there's the issue of trigger compatibility. AR triggers are designed to work with 90 degree selectors. All of the factory triggers we tested were compatible, but Wilson trigger packs in particular, can be hit and miss with a 45 degree selector, i.e. with the hammer cocked, selector on SAFE, when enough pressure is applied to the trigger, it can cam and rotate the selector to FIRE and drop the hammer (fire the weapon). Thus the 5 degree increase to reduce the likelihood of that happening.

[cjd3]

I have the V7, and I like it as my first short throw I've dealt with. Initially, it's really stiff, but I'm sure it will smooth out. If you have the need, it's easy to switch the long and short sides.