Midwest Industries New Optic Mounts

[Midwest Industries]

Midwest Industries is proud to release our own line of optic mounts.
With quality in mind we are working to bring to the shooting community a high end mount for the most popular optics and accessories on the market.
This is just the beginning, with more mounting solutions in the works.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/MI_QDMm_zps6pg622lg.jpg

[UWone77]

Well.... look what we have here....

[Naytwan]

that 30 MM mount looks interesting.

[GOST]

I like.

[JGifford]

Looks very Eotech.

This is a rough market to break into, though.

What does MI have to offer above ADM, Bobro, LaRue, and others?

I'm not picking, I'm just asking: "Sell me on your product".

[BoilerUp]

Given the likely street price, these could be pretty compelling offerings.

[GOST]

Looks very Eotech.

This is a rough market to break into, though.

What does MI have to offer above ADM, Bobro, LaRue, and others?

I'm not picking, I'm just asking: "Sell me on your product".
Looks like their product offers adjustment for fine tuned QD, and less damage to your upper than Larue.

[Uffdaphil]

Looking forward to a comparison to ADM mounts. Sound awfully similar. Without some pretty special cheese the 30mm is unlikely to end my Bobro addiction.

[JGifford]

Looks like their product offers adjustment for fine tuned QD, and less damage to your upper than Larue.

Why should I buy an MI over an ADM? ADM has refined their product over the years, MI is using a relatively new 3rd party product.

I am not AGAINST the MI mount. I actually like what I see. However, liking what I see, and thinking well of a company, are not enough reasons to get me and many others to buy. I would like to see RTZ data, or know who is using it operationally, or what actual .gov contracts have been slated for it, etc.

[Naytwan]

Now that I think about it the more interesting product to me is the Aimpoint Pro Mount. I could get rid of those giant knobs from the side of my rifle and have what looks like a pretty decent QD lever.

[GOST]

I would like to see RTZ data, or know who is using it operationally, or what actual .gov contracts have been slated for it, etc.

I understand what you're saying, but with that reasoning should people just buy KAC and FN rifles? I don't base my purchases on government contracts due to contracts often being awarded by politics. And I try not to base my purchases on who is using a certain product due to them being sponsored. I understand wanting to see more data and reviews of a new product though. Based on MI's reputation and my experience with their products, I would consider these mounts when I'm in the market for a new mount.

[SINNER]

I will certainly give these a shot. I agree they are no Bobro mount but I use a lot of AD and LaRue mounts also. They both have shortcomings with their lever systems IMO and if MI did a better job with theirs that's great.

[JGifford]

I understand what you're saying, but with that reasoning should people just buy KAC and FN rifles? I don't base my purchases on government contracts due to contracts often being awarded by politics. And I try not to base my purchases on who is using a certain product due to them being sponsored. I understand wanting to see more data and reviews of a new product though. Based on MI's reputation and my experience with their products, I would consider these mounts when I'm in the market for a new mount.

No, I don't care if so and so uses one, but what that DOES tell me, is that it at least went through SOME sort of testing. As it is, MI could have just pushed it out the door on a prayer. Now, I am not saying that happened, but I am also completely unfamiliar with MI, having never met any of their employees, or used any of their gear, or even seen any of their gear being used, except on budget builds. So I will be honest, my connotation of the MI name is that of a budget "this is cheap and works okay" type company.

Is my impression correct? Is it incorrect? I don't know. I am not pushing it as fact, I am simply stating how I feel on the matter and why.

I do like what I see in this mount, but I want some data. I'm going to give MI a call and see what I hear.

[GOST]

I would say that MI's products are well priced but would not consider them a cheap product, maybe due to not spending as much on sponsorships. I have used several of their handguards and would say that the design and quality are as good as some of my higher priced ones.

[BoilerUp]

No, I don't care if so and so uses one, but what that DOES tell me, is that it at least went through SOME sort of testing. As it is, MI could have just pushed it out the door on a prayer. Now, I am not saying that happened, but I am also completely unfamiliar with MI, having never met any of their employees, or used any of their gear, or even seen any of their gear being used, except on budget builds. So I will be honest, my connotation of the MI name is that of a budget "this is cheap and works okay" type company.

Is my impression correct? Is it incorrect? I don't know. I am not pushing it as fact, I am simply stating how I feel on the matter and why.

I do like what I see in this mount, but I want some data. I'm going to give MI a call and see what I hear.

You have a perception of a company you have no experience with based on what you see on the interwebs. Fair enough, we all do that. I don't own any LaRue mounts and based on what I've read on the interwebs I never will. I'll put my money towards Bobro when I need a QD. However, I have a $60 PA Micro that currently rides a $70 Daniel Defense mount. I couldn't justify the price of a Bobro but would still prefer to have a QD mount. I will seriously consider this MI QD mount because the price point is attractive and I expect the quality will be quite good for the price because that is my perception of MI based on the one product from them I do own (a Lightweight M-LOK Free Float handguard). To your point, though, these are new products so there is very little 3rd party data on them (e.g., reviews) and I'm not in a hurry to replace my mount so I'll probably wait a bit and see what others say. But if I was in a hurry, I wouldn't really see buying a MI product as particularly risky, either (again, based on my experience and perception of the brand).

Overall, I am with GOST and don't consider MI to be "cheap", but well made and attractively priced. Frankly, I don't think the high prices of some of the brands out there really buy you anything above bragging rights so I'm generally attracted to no-frills companies like MI. Or maybe it's just because I'm from the Midwest? :)

[JGifford]

I spoke with MI.

What did I learn?

They are a very friendly, and open company. They do not "weasel around" regarding what they can tell you and can't, and they don't throw out "It's proprietary" like they are scared I'm building a knock-off in my basement. In short, I would be happy to know they made money from me.

Now for the technical:

The tube mount (scope) has shown in informal testing <1MOA shift. I was told "shooting over and over the shoot n see stickers at 100 yards, boringly." Those are about 1", IIRC. I asked "If I have a 1/2 MOA shooter, ammo, and weapon, and barring environment, would you be confident saying that if I mount and unmount your QD optic mount correctly (index it forward, same slot, etc.) that I would never strike outside of a 1" circle at 100 yards?" I was given an emphatic "Yes".

The cross-bolt is stainless, and the nut is 4140.

The mount indexes mainly on the TOP of the rail. There was a big push from NATO to begin using the top of the rail as the main index point because it is the most "true" surface, and enhanced zero retention/return greatly, over a large sampling of rifles.
http://i58.tinypic.com/5kfwc0.jpg

The adjustment nut is 12-sided, and I personally think that this is enough even for the most finely calibrated fingers, having myself owned ADM 6-point and 8-point products.

I personally cannot find a problem with the product, mentally, modelling it in my mind. It seems very well thought out, minimalist, and effective. I plan on buying one.

Oh, I did want to mention, the lever design used is tried and true.

I asked them about their price point, and shared politely my connotation of such. They fielded the question like a pro, and told me that they do not sponsor a bunch of shooters, etc. and so can sell cheaper. ADM vs. LaRue business model, basically.

Also of note, the Aimpoint M4 mount will NOT WORK with the M4s model due to the battery compartment UNLESS the lower 1/3CW spacer is used, and then it will work.

[SINNER]

I have found MI products to be top quality. I have a few of their AR rails and 3 of their SCAR extension rails and they all are flawless. I actually replaced a PWS SCAR extension with a MI due to the better design and fitment.

[Midwest Industries]

check out the videos to get a small review of each of our new mounts.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP7PGPbJZNmzH5nAmqOuVIXGSXHmsL0b3&app=desktop

[Slippers]

12 sided adjustment nut is key. I gave up on ADM because I was always stuck between having it either way too tight to open with just your fingers or loose enough for the mount to move under recoil within the picatinny slots.

[Midwest Industries]

12 sided adjustment nut is key. I gave up on ADM because I was always stuck between having it either way too tight to open with just your fingers or loose enough for the mount to move under recoil within the picatinny slots.

We have been very happy with the ease of adjustment on these levers. Finding the correct level of tension has not been a problem with the 12 sided nut.

[Slippers]

Any chance you might do a mini-ACOG mount in the future?

[Midwest Industries]

Any chance you might do a mini-ACOG mount in the future?

These are not on the website yet, and in fact this is the first time they have been posted anywhere.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/ACOG%203X_zpsikxtyoif.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/ACOG%201.5X_zpsjuy8ewyz.jpg

These will be available soon.

[velocity2006]

Checked out the videos, no love for the 30mm yet though. Interested to see how it holds up to re-mounting at 100.

[Naytwan]

The Pro mount looks very interesting after watching the video. I may have to pick 2 up to replace those giant knobs on the ones I have.

[Liberal_Strong]

damn MI. what DONT you guys make?

[Slippers]

These are not on the website yet, and in fact this is the first time they have been posted anywhere.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/ACOG%203X_zpsikxtyoif.jpg

These will be available soon.

Exceeeellllleeeeent. My TA33 awaits. :)

I spy a new rail in that picture, too. 45 degree m-lok slots, and no more exposed barrel nut. Nice!

[janet0]

has been bookmark, this seems like a very interesting thread
http://wigunpics.science/1/g.png

[Midwest Industries]

Here is a Trijicon VCOG in the new 2 lever VCOG/ACOG mount:

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/11_zpsxer9bvfw.jpg

[UWone77]

Here is a Trijicon VCOG in the new 2 lever VCOG/ACOG mount:

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/11_zpsxer9bvfw.jpg

MI,

That 30mm dual lever mount looks great. I might have to try one out on new Vortex I have coming in.

I really need to get a complete MI Rifle put together. That gun looks killer!

[Slippers]

Mini ACOG mount is coming to meeee! :)

[Slippers]

Arrived. Works great. The 12 sided adjustment nut works exactly how I always wanted my old ADM to function. I also like the way the locking latch is out of the way, but easy to use when you want to remove the mount.

http://i.imgur.com/CjxDVjX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yYFLQoK.jpg

[Dstrbdmedic167]

That looks nice! I also see those new rail covers too! 😊

[JGifford]

50 yards. DDM4. Surefire 556-212. T2. G33. PMC 223A. Fired from seated. Magazine used as monopod.
http://i58.tinypic.com/2e5pr94.jpg
Rtz results checked at 100 yards as well. Shift was consistent 1moa up and left. Groups at 50 are prettier though.

[Midwest Industries]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/C52D4A6D-9F74-437D-BB6A-F89E75150A1D_zpsdtz6ftdb.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/A1BCE920-449B-4CA0-95C8-EF4311280D31_zpswehxh66v.jpg

[Midwest Industries]

Now shipping!

http://midwestindustriesinc.com/images/products/mi_qdsm30.jpg

[Midwest Industries]

Check out the Return to zero in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x4eFwuKya8

This video is funny, but does show that our guns and mounts can take a beating.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftRV5ZAfO6o

[BoilerUp]

Will MI be releasing a 1" version of the QD scope mount? Or is your solution solely the reducers?

[Midwest Industries]

We will have the 1" scope mount versions out as soon as we finish the 30mm. We will then be doing the 34mm.
Lots of stuff to get out, just waiting on machine time now.

[Dave Timm]

Is a 30mm aimpoint mount in the works?

[Midwest Industries]

Yes that is on the list .
thanks
Troy
MI

[Midwest Industries]

Cantilever Aimpoint risers are getting close to shipping!

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/8BB188FA-F795-467C-AC8D-3E695E92F959_zpsot27grji.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI%20Scope%20and%20Optic%20Mounts/235EA11E-9B8C-4054-BDC2-64BD48FDE060_zpsblthccdw.jpg

[SINNER]

Can I be the first to say that I really like everything about MI's products but your website sucks. 2 days after ordering and no email confirmation or charges. No idea if the order went in or not.

[Midwest Industries]

Can I be the first to say that I really like everything about MI's products but your website sucks. 2 days after ordering and no email confirmation or charges. No idea if the order went in or not.

Please send me an email:
pete@midwestindustriesinc.com

[SINNER]

Please send me an email:
pete@midwestindustriesinc.com

Email sent. Thanks

[Ride4frnt]

May be time for me to build a new rifle...

[Midwest Industries]

Two lever ACOG/ VCOG mounts are being packaged! [:)]

[SINNER]

So far I am liking these mounts. Only had a chance to put 90 rounds through it at a 25yd indoor range. Removed the mount and reinstalled between each magazine and zero was dead on. Perhaps this weekend I will get it out to 100-300 yards and see. The QD levers are fantastic.

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q638/DonaldFink1/image.jpg1_zpsydjfeftl.jpg (http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/DonaldFink1/media/image.jpg1_zpsydjfeftl.jpg.html)]

[UWone77]

Like you said ... I'm not sure why more people don't use Steiner Optics.

CMT Upper, Fathom BCG, SMOS Rail... Nice gun!

[SINNER]

Like you said ... I'm not sure why more people don't use Steiner Optics.

CMT Upper, Fathom BCG, SMOS Rail... Nice gun!

Thank you.

Rainier Arms Rock Creek middy is the icing on the cake. I like this barrel more every time I shoot it.

[mustangfreek]

Nice looking mounts!!

[Midwest Industries]

Here is a sneak peak at some of the first production run Heavy Duty QD scope mounts on the HKMR556A1 and the FN Scar 17S

Retail price on this mount is $189.95 with an introductory price of $179.95

These are on the scale at 7.8oz

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/QD%20mounts/02AE6AB0-B0E9-4E75-8452-6EDB66BB833B_zpsamspi2gq.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/QD%20mounts/5E3EC4DD-F8BF-4550-933B-CB6060800C4B_zpsymbbqfcp.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/QD%20mounts/AB60966A-1EC5-4CC7-BA0D-28A197643C54_zpswbyzulkr.jpg

[Midwest Industries]

T1 Low mount

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/QD%20mounts/0DBC8538-5ED2-4826-AF08-7870BCA3D1E0_zpsh1bufod8.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/QD%20mounts/9C9150D2-0821-4704-A8CC-E56CCC78BBAF_zpskzz2wmws.jpg

[Midwest Industries]

New mounts in FDE

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/QD%20mounts/C6973079-8DC9-4CB5-90AA-560C16123FBD_zpstk2xttox.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/QD%20mounts/ECC56244-3E29-4233-BF59-B3F7D4808415_zpspfwat00s.jpg

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Ohh I like FDE! Good stuff!

[velocity2006]

That's a great looking mount.

[mustangfreek]

These look good MI!!

[UWone77]

452

[SINNER]

That shot sure is eye catching.




And I forgot they have a low T1 mount. Need one for the 870 rehab.

[Dave Timm]

Midwest Ind has been really hitting some home runs lately. We have some of their optic mounts and are really impressed, in my opinion they have the nicest lever QR out. They are very well built.

[SINNER]

I have a vertical grip that has a Elite Defense QD lever on it so I was really looking forward to these when I read they were using ED's design.

I agree they are a very well made and performing mounts. Pretty much the best value in QD mounts out right now IMO.

[mtdawg169]

I have a vertical grip that has a Elite Defense QD lever on it so I was really looking forward to these when I read they were using ED's design.

I agree they are a very well made and performing mounts. Pretty much the best value in QD mounts out right now IMO.
Seems like several companies use the Elite Defense locking lever design. Do they just license it out for use to other companies?

[SINNER]

I assume they just license the design like many other parts in the industry.

[JGifford]

Just a bump. Has anyone done any ACTUAL RTZ testing with the MI mounts? This is all I've seen, and I did it. T2w/G33 magnifier, 50 yards. Detached the optic after each shot, vs. leaving it in place for all 10.
http://i58.tinypic.com/2e5pr94.jpg

[JGifford]

Bumping the thread again, curious if anyone's tested out the 1", 30mm, and 34mm offerings at distance with an accurate enough rig to note any POI shifts.

[UWone77]

Bumping the thread again, curious if anyone's tested out the 1", 30mm, and 34mm offerings at distance with an accurate enough rig to note any POI shifts.

I have 2 30mm's and a few months ago I tested out the POI shifts. I wish I had kept the pictures, but I didn't notice a big POI shift, probably similar to your groupings at 100 yards. I'll have to take the mounts out again next range trip. Too many things to test out lately, I need to make a list of stuff to accomplish.

[JGifford]

Eh, I'd bought a 34mm cantilever for my MK6, but I'll probably go with something else and sell the MI mount.

[gatordev]

Anyone have any other experiences with this mount? I'm looking at their 30mm High Mount for a scope and it's either this, ADM (meh), or Larue (for more money).

[SINNER]

I have 2 of their 30mm mounts and 2 for MRO’S. All have been flawless. Equal to ADM and far superior to the LaRue’s.