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GOST
11 August 2015, 02:06
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/565/20463915266_468d7a84f9_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/336/20463915286_58a276d352_b.jpg

MSRP $579.00

Tyrannosaur
11 August 2015, 05:13
Inyerestig, but why join a flooded market where Aimpoint is king? Hope the price point isn't rediculous. Of it's in the Aimpoint range which I would expect from Trijicon I feel as though everyone will stick with Aimpoint.

Pyzik
11 August 2015, 05:14
Rumor says price point is around $500.

Looks cool but I likely won't be owning one any time soon.

GOST
11 August 2015, 05:21
Dimension are close to an Aimpoint Micro with a 5 mm larger objective lens. Will be interesting to see what mount these use.

Former11B
11 August 2015, 05:32
Inyerestig, but why join a flooded market where Aimpoint is king? Hope the price point isn't rediculous. Of it's in the Aimpoint range which I would expect from Trijicon I feel as though everyone will stick with Aimpoint.

Competition drives innovation and price

Trijicon is a top tier product. I've owned/own both (Aimpoint and Trijicon) and I'd like to see this up close.

GOST
11 August 2015, 06:19
Rumored to be released by the end of the month. Some dealers are already taking pre-orders.

tact
11 August 2015, 06:46
I'll bite.

Slippers
11 August 2015, 07:43
It would be great if it used aimpoint micro mounts.

UWone77
11 August 2015, 07:59
I've been pretty disappointed by the VCOG and the SRS, so I'm not holding my breath.

I do like the 27mm vs the 22mm objective lens.

docsherm
11 August 2015, 08:24
Trijicon makes a great product. If they built this around the ACOG "frame" and the price is comparable to an Aimpoint then I see this taking off. They built optics that can take a great deal of abuse. It would be a huge win for them if it took the Micro mounts as there are a ton out there. If not then I see that as a problem and it will likely never take off. Kind of like the SRS with either the thumb screws or that Borbo mount...... I like the optic but hate both mounts. I am also not sure why all of these optics are going to a 2 MOA dot...way to small in my opinion.

Of course I will stick with my EOTechs.....but I may have to try one. [:D]

GOST
11 August 2015, 09:01
The mounts these will use are similar to the Aimpoint Micro mounts but different. I know the SRS gets bad reviews but I love my SRS02.

SINNER
11 August 2015, 09:10
I agree. The SRS02 is superior to the Aimpoints. And the Bobro mount is one of my favorite red dot mounts. With a MSRP of 579 I would expect street prices of $500. With the disappointment of the T2 I think timing could not be better.

Slippers
11 August 2015, 09:34
Grant from M4c posted that these use a proprietary mounting interface. Shucks.

SINNER
11 August 2015, 09:40
Looks like a mini ACOG mount in that top photo.

voodoo_man
11 August 2015, 10:13
While the VCOG was a huge fail, the AccuPower is pretty damn awesome.

I'll buy one these...

Dstrbdmedic167
11 August 2015, 10:18
While the VCOG was a huge fail, the AccuPower is pretty damn awesome.

I'll buy one these...

You disappointed me... I was looking for that "want or sort of want...."

voodoo_man
11 August 2015, 10:21
You disappointed me... I was looking for that "want or sort of want...."

Yeah, that's usually for stuff I may or may not buy.

I'll be buying this.

Dstrbdmedic167
11 August 2015, 10:22
Yeah, that's usually for stuff I may or may not buy.

I'll be buying this.

Haha gotcha

2ATA
11 August 2015, 11:59
I'm pretty sure Trijicon has LE and .mil pricing on most items. Never really tried to find out, however, I think I'll be investigating it for this.

docsherm
11 August 2015, 12:03
I'm pretty sure Trijicon has LE and .mil pricing on most items. Never really tried to find out, however, I think I'll be investigating it for this.

Not sure about LE pricing but they are great with the MIL pricing program.

Txfilmmaker
11 August 2015, 12:06
Hoping it pans out. .


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docsherm
11 August 2015, 12:07
Looks like a mini ACOG mount in that top photo.

That is NOT the LaRue Compact ACOG Mount. It is LaRue but it must be made for them, which makes this even better.

Here is the Compact Mount:
http://www.laruetactical.com/sites/default/files/p1012044.jpg

Slippers
11 August 2015, 12:22
Looks like a mini ACOG mount in that top photo.

Yeah, that photo wasn't up there when I posted. :)

SINNER
11 August 2015, 12:29
I guess Trijicon must be moving away from Bobro. Also looks like that mount has a integral riser built into it. I'd like to have one for my TA45 if thats in fact correct.

Slippers
11 August 2015, 12:42
I'll buy one if the dot is more crisp than my aimpoint micro. Darn astigmatism.

gatordev
11 August 2015, 12:48
I am also not sure why all of these optics are going to a 2 MOA dot...way to small in my opinion.

Of course I will stick with my EOTechs.....but I may have to try one. [:D]

Isn't the EOTech a 1 MOA dot? Or does the circle make up for that for you?


Not sure about LE pricing but they are great with the MIL pricing program.

Do tell. I thought they didn't have any after their last "leak" at the beginning of the year. I'm actually in the market for an ECOS or a TA31 Horseshoe (need to actually fondle an ECOS), and have been eying the used market lately.

docsherm
11 August 2015, 13:07
Isn't the EOTech a 1 MOA dot? Or does the circle make up for that for you?



Do tell. I thought they didn't have any after their last "leak" at the beginning of the year. I'm actually in the market for an ECOS or a TA31 Horseshoe (need to actually fondle an ECOS), and have been eying the used market lately.

It is a reflex sight and I use the 65 MOA circle to really increase speed. Speed it the key, if not run irons or a scope.

Contact the MIL Rep:

Military and Law
Enforcement Division
925 Corporate Drive
Suite 315
Stafford, VA 22554

Phone: 1-703-445-1600

docsherm
11 August 2015, 13:10
I guess Trijicon must be moving away from Bobro. Also looks like that mount has a integral riser built into it. I'd like to have one for my TA45 if thats in fact correct.

LaRue makes a mount for that model ACOG.

http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-acog-compact-mount-qd-lt-105

gatordev
11 August 2015, 13:20
It is a reflex sight and I use the 65 MOA circle to really increase speed. Speed it the key, if not run irons or a scope.

Contact the MIL Rep:

Military and Law
Enforcement Division
925 Corporate Drive
Suite 315
Stafford, VA 22554

Phone: 1-703-445-1600

Thanks for the info!

Would you mind making a new thread (or maybe you have a link already) about how you use the EOTech? When run with a shot clock, I've found no real speed increase with an Aimpoint vs EOTech for first shot acquisition. But I'm no expert and curious to hear techniques.

voodoo_man
11 August 2015, 14:00
larue mount?

no thanks

schambers
11 August 2015, 14:14
reminds me of a mini-submarine

Slippers
11 August 2015, 14:17
larue mount?

no thanks

I'm with you on this. Hopefully the OEM mount is just a thumbscrew style like ACOGs come with. I can't spend my own money on anything associated with Mark Larue purely based on how he treats people.

voodoo_man
11 August 2015, 14:24
I'm with you on this. Hopefully the OEM mount is just a thumbscrew style like ACOGs come with. I can't spend my own money on anything associated with Mark Larue purely based on how he treats people.

might be a good market to get into?

hint hint nudge nudge ;)

docsherm
11 August 2015, 14:59
The thumb screw mounts are epic for SUCK factor.

Hate him or not they are the best optic mounts around. There is a reason those mounts have not changed in almost 10 years.

tact
11 August 2015, 15:07
Surely there will be others making mounts. Why wouldn't they? The guy from G&R Tactical had already commented he was getting together with Bobro.

Midwest Industries
11 August 2015, 15:08
larue mount?

no thanks

How about with a Midwest Ind mount?
We will have one out ASAP. [:)]

tact
11 August 2015, 15:26
How about with a Midwest Ind mount?
We will have one out ASAP. [:)]

Perfect. I'll take one.

voodoo_man
11 August 2015, 16:35
How about with a Midwest Ind mount?
We will have one out ASAP. [:)]

If you want to send me one to break I'll happily do it ;)

Pyzik
11 August 2015, 16:44
How about with a Midwest Ind mount?
We will have one out ASAP. [:)]
Sweet

Slippers
11 August 2015, 18:29
How about with a Midwest Ind mount?
We will have one out ASAP. [:)]

Excellent. I love my TA33 mount. :)

BoilerUp
11 August 2015, 19:59
The thumb screw mounts are epic for SUCK factor.

Hate him or not they are the best optic mounts around. There is a reason those mounts have not changed in almost 10 years.

Do you think LaRue mounts are better than Bobro? That isn't an opinion I think I've ever heard expressed by anyone familiar with both.

GOST
11 August 2015, 20:07
I've had really good luck with Bobro myself.

tact
11 August 2015, 20:13
Larue mounts suck. Has nothing to do with Mark.

SINNER
11 August 2015, 21:11
I own multiple mounts from just about every manufacturer made. Spuhr are indestructible. Bobro have the best return to zero out of any QD mount I have used but I have had one lever seize up and ultimately break trying to remove it. American Defense dual lever mounts are second best for returning to zero. Their Delta mounts for the SCAR platforms are massively overbuilt. I think I have 4 Larue ACOG mounts and they are my favorite for ACOGs. For some reason the Bobro lever just seems far too bulky with the ACOGs. Their return to zero is around 2 MOA. Not stellar but not bad. And the only QD mount I have ever used on my .50's that did not shift are the old triple lever Larue's. I honestly never trusted QD mounts on those monsters and have since switched to Ken Farrell rings on those.

docsherm
11 August 2015, 21:19
Not going to get into a pissing contest here but LaRue mounts are the gold standard for optics. People will disagree with the truth. Oh well. Ever wonder why the LaRue products have not changed in the last 10 years and they are still one of the top sellers even with all of the other companies that are trying to enter the market now days? Quality and reliability.

Sorry to derail the thread. I will no longer discuss this in here. If there is a thread to debate optic mounts let me know.

I still want one of these new reflex sights. I just hope that they have options for a larger MOA retical.

UWone77
11 August 2015, 21:36
The thumb screw mounts are epic for SUCK factor.

Hate him or not they are the best optic mounts around. There is a reason those mounts have not changed in almost 10 years.

100% agree, thumb screw mounts have not ever treated me well. Will not ever use them on a gun, unless I have nothing else for plinking.

LaRue Mounts work, I still have 3 or 4 of them. Others work as well.

Let's keep this thread on the topic of the Trijicon.

Thanks gents.

Txfilmmaker
12 August 2015, 08:25
Not going to get into a pissing contest here but LaRue mounts are the gold standard for optics. People will disagree with the truth. Oh well. Ever wonder why the LaRue products have not changed in the last 10 years and they are still one of the top sellers even with all of the other companies that are trying to enter the market now days? Quality and reliability.

Sorry to derail the thread. I will no longer discuss this in here. If there is a thread to debate optic mounts let me know.

I still want one of these new reflex sights. I just hope that they have options for a larger MOA retical.

Larger reticle? I'm new to the AR and I hope to "eventually" get an optic after I finish building it. This Trijicon looks like it may be a good option. Is 2MOA too small? Is it a personal preference. I picked up a 4MOA red dot the other day and it didn't seem too big. No experience yet, so thanks for any input.


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ffhounddog
12 August 2015, 08:29
I am on board with getting one or two if they work out.

UWone77
12 August 2015, 08:37
Larger reticle? I'm new to the AR and I hope to "eventually" get an optic after I finish building it. This Trijicon looks like it may be a good option. Is 2MOA too small? Is it a personal preference. I picked up a 4MOA red dot the other day and it didn't seem too big. No experience yet, so thanks for any input.


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IMHO, 4 MOA for a red dot is optimal. I know some have used Aimpoints out further, but to me a red dot is a 100 yard and closer optic. I want a bigger dot for close in work.

Txfilmmaker
12 August 2015, 09:01
IMHO, 4 MOA for a red dot is optimal. I know some have used Aimpoints out further, but to me a red dot is a 100 yard and closer optic. I want a bigger dot for close in work.

Makes sense. Thanks


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docsherm
12 August 2015, 09:10
IMHO, 4 MOA for a red dot is optimal. I know some have used Aimpoints out further, but to me a red dot is a 100 yard and closer optic. I want a bigger dot for close in work.

That is right on the mark.

JGifford
12 August 2015, 09:26
The thumb screw mounts are epic for SUCK factor.

Hate him or not they are the best optic mounts around. There is a reason those mounts have not changed in almost 10 years.

Bobro mounts absolutely destroy LaRue in rtz and durability. I wish Trijicon/Bobro would release the .MIL tests and results.

That said, I am displeased to see that Grant leaked this. It has been widespread insider knowledge for a long time, and he just had to be "the cool guy" who talked about new stuff first publically. Way to be, Grant. Trijicon is not pleased, from what I understand.

Water under the bridge at this point though. I think the optic is going to really take off and do well if initial reviews are good. Trijicon needs to start hitting again. They have not been very competitive in the last half decade with the civilian market aside from the tr24 and pistol optics/nightsights.

UWone77
12 August 2015, 10:28
Water under the bridge at this point though. I think the optic is going to really take off and do well if initial reviews are good. Trijicon needs to start hitting again. They have not been very competitive in the last half decade with the civilian market aside from the tr24 and pistol optics/nightsights.

100% agree. Hope that Trijicon hits it out of the park with this one.

voodoo_man
12 August 2015, 11:03
Re dot size;

2moa is excellent for those who have issues with comits and blurry RDS. I used a 4moa H1 for a while, out to 600m and it wasnt as accurate as a 2moa T2 I used on a friends gun.

2moa also allows for better magnification as well.

As stated previously, ill be getting one for a rifle, maybe on a 11.5 or 10.3 inch since thats where this type of optic is mostly at home.

Liberal_Strong
12 August 2015, 11:22
ooo does this also mean trijicon will come out with a magnifier?

and with a potential price tag of $500 is no bueno :(

voodoo_man
12 August 2015, 12:09
ooo does this also mean trijicon will come out with a magnifier?

and with a potential price tag of $500 is no bueno :(

There are plenty out there.

Have you seen the Samson 3.5x? Pretty snazzy

voodoo_man
12 August 2015, 12:12
Also, any retailers gana have these and open to a group buy for wevo?

I bet we can get quite a few people on this.

UWone77
12 August 2015, 12:16
ooo does this also mean trijicon will come out with a magnifier?

and with a potential price tag of $500 is no bueno :(

Has $500 been confirmed as a likely street price or MSRP?

Liberal_Strong
12 August 2015, 12:19
Has $500 been confirmed as a likely street price or MSRP?

oh wait...msrp is listed 579. im hoping, as many others too, would like to see the street price of $500.

UWone77
12 August 2015, 12:23
Also, any retailers gana have these and open to a group buy for wevo?

I bet we can get quite a few people on this.

I'm sure I can get RA to do one if we have enough interest.

voodoo_man
12 August 2015, 12:31
I'm sure I can get RA to do one if we have enough interest.

In that case...

lets see who is down for one of these 100%

1. voodoo_man
2.
3.
4.
5.
etc

fill in your names

tact
12 August 2015, 14:37
I was in at first sight.....

tact
12 August 2015, 14:38
In that case...

lets see who is down for one of these 100%

1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3.
4.
5.
etc

fill in your names

I'll bite.

GOST
12 August 2015, 17:30
http://www.recoilweb.com/trijicon-mro-miniature-rifle-optic-70203.html

voodoo_man
13 August 2015, 07:20
http://www.recoilweb.com/trijicon-mro-miniature-rifle-optic-70203.html

"Trijicon engineers built and tested...."

Doesnt give me confidence about their testing.

These companies need to start putting this stuff into hands of people who dont have invested interest.

2ATA
13 August 2015, 07:21
In.

MoxyDave
13 August 2015, 10:57
This looks great, but so did the SRS ... we shall see. I hope it's as good as it looks. Aimpoint needs some real competition.

voodoo_man
13 August 2015, 16:50
Common guys, I know a few of you want this, commit so we can get a worthy price (hopefully)

1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3. 2ATA
4.
5.
etc

fill in your names

Slippers
13 August 2015, 17:56
I guess I need to know what the price will be and what mount it comes with before I can commit $500+ for one.

alamo5000
13 August 2015, 18:04
Larger reticle? I'm new to the AR and I hope to "eventually" get an optic after I finish building it. This Trijicon looks like it may be a good option. Is 2MOA too small? Is it a personal preference. I picked up a 4MOA red dot the other day and it didn't seem too big. No experience yet, so thanks for any input.


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I'm with Uwone on this one. After running around shooting my AR for a bit the next one I do will be for 'up close' work... which based on my relatively new guy observations here is what I observe about the whole optic thing. A lot of people talk about these little 1 MOA dots like they are a good thing... which they can be depending on your goal, but if you are going to be running and gunning or even want to be able to get on target a lot faster then a bigger dot is much better. It won't offer pinpoint precision but that is not the purpose of such an optic. As I ponder building an SBR (more specifically how it all goes together) I am thinking 4 MOA would actually be the minimum for a 'fast acquisition' gun.

six8
13 August 2015, 18:09
I guess I need to know what the price will be and what mount it comes with before I can commit $500+ for one.
Same here. Very interested tho

GOST
13 August 2015, 18:12
I use 4, 2 and 1.75 MOA RDS. I actually do the best with the 1.75 due to it having a 38mm objective lens. The size of the dot from my experience isn't that big of a factor, the FOV is however for me.

alamo5000
13 August 2015, 18:17
I use 4, 2 and 1.75 MOA RDS. I actually do the best with the 1.75 due to it having a 38mm objective lens. The size of the dot from my experience isn't that big of a factor, the FOV is however for me.

Yep. You're thinking the same way I am thinking. The right combo between FOV and dot size... I haven't done a lot of hands on looking but that is how I am seeing it.

That said (for me) when I do my SBR I don't think I will be magnifying the optic. I haven't given much thought to it but initial impressions are probably not. My initial impressions have been wrong before but so far that's how I am leaning.

GOST
13 August 2015, 18:23
When picking an RDS it would be best if you could get time behind the ones you're interested in before picking one. My favorite RDS by far is the one with the worst reviews.

alamo5000
13 August 2015, 18:31
When picking an RDS it would be best if you could get time behind the ones you're interested in before picking one. My favorite RDS by far is the one with the worst reviews.

Absolutely. I won't buy a high dollar optic until I've tried it and at least taken it for a spin in the bright light. As I get more into it I am sure I will pester everyone with more questions [BD]

For my initial 'vision' of an up close gun (100yards and in), on one hand I like 5.56 because I don't need any special ammo... on the other I like the super quiet of the 300 BO. It looks like I have to build both. :P

As for the actual optic, the thought is to have a both eyes open style with a lot of eye relief. I want to minimize losing the dot. Where that path takes me, I don't know.

Pyzik
13 August 2015, 18:34
Absolutely. I won't buy a high dollar optic until I've tried it and at least taken it for a spin in the bright light. As I get more into it I am sure I will pester everyone with more questions [BD]

For my initial 'vision' of an up close gun (100yards and in), on one hand I like 5.56 because I don't need any special ammo... on the other I like the super quiet of the 300 BO. It looks like I have to build both. :P

As for the actual optic, the thought is to have a both eyes open style with a lot of eye relief. I want to minimize losing the dot. Where that path takes me, I don't know.
Actually, with both eyes open putting the RDS closer to your face helps.
Also reduces the "blind spot" of the optic.

alamo5000
13 August 2015, 18:40
Actually, with both eyes open putting the RDS closer to your face helps.
Also reduces the "blind spot" of the optic.

See. I am already learning something new! LOL

I haven't used those kind of optics much at all so any feedback from experience is good feedback.

Before I jump all in and go through all the BS of getting an SBR my personal preference is to have an idea of how all the parts (including the optics) will function together. I have no idea if I would go reflex, red dot, whatever... the SRS looks good... but I don't know if other options are better... no need to hurry... just biding my time and trying to make wise choices.

tact
13 August 2015, 19:45
I use 4, 2 and 1.75 MOA RDS. I actually do the best with the 1.75 due to it having a 38mm objective lens. The size of the dot from my experience isn't that big of a factor, the FOV is however for me.

Agreed, besides the dot size seems to be a moot point when they are adjustable anyway.....the level of brightness seems to have an effect on the perceived size of the dot ....to me anyway.

tact
13 August 2015, 19:58
Actually, with both eyes open putting the RDS closer to your face helps.
Also reduces the "blind spot" of the optic.

I don't see it being beneficial to have a red dot close to your face. I guess things work different for other people, but I like moving it farther down the receiver so I don't lose any of my peripheral vision. However, with fixed power on my Browe/ACOGs with both eyes open I have to be close, but I don't with 1x RDSs.

Txfilmmaker
13 August 2015, 20:43
Common guys, I know a few of you want this, commit so we can get a worthy price (hopefully)

1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3. 2ATA
4.
5.
etc

fill in your names

Want and having the funds are not always congruent.


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Txfilmmaker
13 August 2015, 20:46
I'm with Uwone on this one. After running around shooting my AR for a bit the next one I do will be for 'up close' work... which based on my relatively new guy observations here is what I observe about the whole optic thing. A lot of people talk about these little 1 MOA dots like they are a good thing... which they can be depending on your goal, but if you are going to be running and gunning or even want to be able to get on target a lot faster then a bigger dot is much better. It won't offer pinpoint precision but that is not the purpose of such an optic. As I ponder building an SBR (more specifically how it all goes together) I am thinking 4 MOA would actually be the minimum for a 'fast acquisition' gun.

Or maybe, dare I say... An Eotech?


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Dstrbdmedic167
13 August 2015, 20:59
Or maybe, dare I say... An Eotech?


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No.. Lol... I happily sold my last eotech recently. Got really tired of the big fuzzy circle..

tact
13 August 2015, 21:02
Or maybe, dare I say... An Eotech?


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Which have 1 MOA dots that people have been "running and gunning" with for years.....

Pyzik
14 August 2015, 04:38
I don't see it being beneficial to have a red dot close to your face. I guess things work different for other people, but I like moving it farther down the receiver so I don't lose any of my peripheral vision. However, with fixed power on my Browe/ACOGs with both eyes open I have to be close, but I don't with 1x RDSs.

Like all things it's most likely a preference thing. I find that being closer to one eye, I pick up the dot much faster and being out of the field of view of the "support" eye I actually find that my peripheral vision is better.
I've put it just about everywhere on the receiver and for me, closer is better.

Txfilmmaker
14 August 2015, 05:48
https://www.botach.com/trijicon-mro-miniature-rifle-optic-2moa-red-dot/ http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/14/55652f834bb36f746c228b024a33c184.jpg

$493 Shipped
Pre-order ***

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Pyzik
14 August 2015, 05:49
https://www.botach.com/trijicon-mro-miniature-rifle-optic-2moa-red-dot/ http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/14/55652f834bb36f746c228b024a33c184.jpg

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That was fast.

voodoo_man
14 August 2015, 05:50
https://www.botach.com/trijicon-mro-miniature-rifle-optic-2moa-red-dot/ http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/14/55652f834bb36f746c228b024a33c184.jpg

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Bahhh that cheap

Dstrbdmedic167
14 August 2015, 06:00
Good find Marty!

voodoo_man
14 August 2015, 06:09
Is rainier gana be able to beat that price?

UWone77
14 August 2015, 07:05
Is rainier gana be able to beat that price?

You seriously gonna roll the dice with BoCrap? Let me know how that works out man. [BD]

Txfilmmaker
14 August 2015, 09:47
Couple other sources selling it for the same price as noted in "Deals and Hard to Find Items." If I get the money for an optic, I certainly would prefer to buy one from Rainier or one of this sight's sponsors.


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tact
14 August 2015, 10:43
Is rainier gana be able to beat that price?

Seriously doubt it....

tact
14 August 2015, 10:46
You seriously gonna roll the dice with BoCrap? Let me know how that works out man. [BD]

I was burned more than once by them years ago and swore them off. In search of a few optics this past year I hesitantly gave them a shot because they had some outstanding prices. So far with my last three orders things have been great. Maybe they got their shit together, or I got lucky.

UWone77
14 August 2015, 10:50
I was burned more than once by them years ago and swore them off. In search of a few optics this past year I hesitantly gave them a shot because they had some outstanding prices. So far with my last three orders things have been great. Maybe they got their shit together, or I got lucky.

I'll pay a little more for better service. I know some are just looking for the absolute lowest price though.

Plenty of great retailers nowadays, besides, is BoTach even an authorized dealer?

tact
14 August 2015, 11:00
They are. I understand your loyalty and certainly can appreciate it, but even they've had hiccups.

UWone77
14 August 2015, 11:09
They are. I understand your loyalty and certainly can appreciate it, but even they've had hiccups.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I order from at least a dozen retailers. Everyone's had hiccups, but Botach having a hiccup would be an improvement.

Hopefully, they've improved, but I still have lingering bad tastes of several CC disputes from Botach to get my money back.

tact
14 August 2015, 11:10
Understood.

UWone77
14 August 2015, 11:12
Understood.

You know what brother?

Just from your recommendation, I'm going to make a small order from Botach... let's see how this goes. [:D]

tact
14 August 2015, 11:13
You know what brother?

Just from your recommendation, I'm going to make a small order from Botach... let's see how this goes. [:D]

Great......now I'm going to be bane of all your Blowtach hate for years to come cuz they'll make an a$$ out of me.

UWone77
14 August 2015, 11:15
Great......now I'm going to be bane of all your Blowtach hate for years to come cuz they'll make an a$$ out of me.

LOL... I'm browsing their site right now...I'm sure I'll run across something I want. If it doesn't work out, I'm sure it'll be less than a $50 order.

Free shipping on all orders... already off to a good start.

voodoo_man
14 August 2015, 11:24
Since people won't commit to buying until there is a good review up or at least some use of it posted...

Anyone who has direct ability to get one of these with an absolute cowitness mount (lookin at you UWone) please LMK who I need to pay how much to get one of these to test and review.

UWone77
14 August 2015, 11:25
Since people won't commit to buying until there is a good review up or at least some use of it posted...

Anyone who has direct ability to get one of these with an absolute cowitness mount (lookin at you UWone) please LMK who I need to pay how much to get one of these to test and review.

I know about as much as you do as far as getting one at this point.

I'd be willing to buy one as well sight unseen, without a review.

voodoo_man
14 August 2015, 11:34
I know about as much as you do as far as getting one at this point.

I'd be willing to buy one as well sight unseen, without a review.

If you are so inclined post up where you are going to get one from or PM me if its LE-specific ;)

GOST
14 August 2015, 11:37
Stick posted a pic of one yesterday. Would he let you borrow his?

tact
14 August 2015, 11:39
Uhhh yea what voodoo said...

voodoo_man
14 August 2015, 11:42
Stick posted a pic of one yesterday. Would he let you borrow his?

His are super exclusive not for use models ;)

UWone77
14 August 2015, 11:51
Just talked to RA, they have MRO's on order. They're willing to do a group buy for WEVO. After they look into pricing, and let me know what that is, I'll move forward with it, if the price makes sense.

We just need a rough head count of who would be interested. This is not a commitment by any means.

voodoo_man
14 August 2015, 11:52
Just talked to RA, they have MRO's on order. They're willing to do a group buy for WEVO. After they look into pricing, and let me know what that is, I'll move forward with it, if the price makes sense.

We just need a rough head count of who would be interested. This is not a commitment by any means.

Yeah, that's cool.

OK people this is your time to step up and say that you are interested pending price....

1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3. 2ATA
4.
5.
etc

Txfilmmaker
14 August 2015, 11:57
Didn't realize what I started... :-o


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Pyzik
14 August 2015, 12:03
Yeah, that's cool.

OK people this is your time to step up and say that you are interested pending price....

1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3. 2ATA
4.
5.
etc
Wish I could!

UWone77
14 August 2015, 12:07
1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3. 2ATA
4. UWone77
5.

SINNER
14 August 2015, 15:24
1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3. 2ATA
4. UWone77
5.SINNER

In also

Slippers
14 August 2015, 15:29
This or a harvester.... Oh decisions, decisions.

SINNER
14 August 2015, 15:34
No decision. Both.

voodoo_man
14 August 2015, 16:20
This or a harvester.... Oh decisions, decisions.




No decision. Both.


Seriously.

titanse05
14 August 2015, 17:08
1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3. 2ATA
4. UWone77
5. SINNER
6. titanse05 I'm interested at a GB price.

UWone77
14 August 2015, 18:00
Botach is offering them at MAP so not a great deal as $493 is without the mount. $544 is MAP with a mount.

Looks like roughly $495 with mount and free shipping if we can get 15 commitments. Your choice of co witness or 1/3.

GOST
14 August 2015, 18:40
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11834903_1171049526243933_1747894621069938089_o.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=MRO-C-2200003

SINNER
14 August 2015, 19:01
I will take 1.

lifebreath
14 August 2015, 19:43
I should have read this first! I ordered directly from Trijicon - lower 1/3 witness.

toolboxluis00200
14 August 2015, 20:16
Wish I had the money

Txfilmmaker
14 August 2015, 21:13
Wish I had the money

Me too, Luis. There are always contests. Ha Ha . ;-) Even so, I'm very thankful for what I have. :)


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voodoo_man
15 August 2015, 02:38
Common guys, we need 15 to commit for a decent price. Yall know your gana buy em anyway.

GOST
15 August 2015, 04:01
Looks like some of you need to buy 2 or 3 then.[BD]

GOST
15 August 2015, 07:23
Trijicon MRO first look from Haley Strategic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dTrv4T-vPKo

voodoo_man
15 August 2015, 07:26
Trijicon MRO first look from Haley Strategic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dTrv4T-vPKo

Holy failboat.

They sent this guy an optic and he makes a video, a 9 minute video, about an optic he has no time behind..

This is the problem with this industry, makes me want to make an angry blog post that no one will read.

GOST
15 August 2015, 07:31
It was worth posting it just for your response.[BD]

voodoo_man
15 August 2015, 07:59
It was worth posting it just for your response.[BD]

I hate it that you know me so well haha

voodoo_man
15 August 2015, 08:14
Posted anyway, bah.

SINNER
15 August 2015, 08:30
I thought the video was informative and he clearly states it's a first look and has not ran it yet. So unlike your dumbass comments I actually got something out of that video.

toolboxluis00200
15 August 2015, 08:34
Holy failboat.

They sent this guy an optic and he makes a video, a 9 minute video, about an optic he has no time behind..

This is the problem with this industry, makes me want to make an angry blog post that no one will read.

He did say Monday or Tuesday he was going to make a part two

docsherm
15 August 2015, 09:02
1. voodoo_man
2. tact
3. 2ATA
4. UWone77
5. SINNER
6. titanse05
7. docsherm



What the hell, I am going to buy one anyway so I might as well help the group out. ;)

UWone77
15 August 2015, 09:15
What the hell, I am going to buy one anyway so I might as well help the group out. ;)

Way to take one for the team doc. [:D]

I'm sure I can twist their arm for a 10 unit purchase.

I know it's not easy for most of us to commit to a $500 purchase without anyone but maybe Travis Haley having had any time with it.

Uffdaphil
15 August 2015, 10:04
I need another red dot like a hole in the head. But that hasn't stopped me before. Maybe I'll sell the TA45 1.5x Acog. Count me in.

Pyzik
15 August 2015, 10:12
Way to take one for the team doc. [:D]

I'm sure I can twist their arm for a 10 unit purchase.

I know it's not easy for most of us to commit to a $500 purchase without anyone but maybe Travis Haley having had any time with it.
For what it's worth, Steve Fisher has been playing with one. He hasn't posted much on it but no complaints yet.

voodoo_man
15 August 2015, 10:44
I thought the video was informative and he clearly states it's a first look and has not ran it yet. So unlike your dumbass comments I actually got something out of that video.

Wow, dumbass comments?

Because the truth hurts so much....

If hes your hero, you should be offended btw. Id be for that 9 min video of nothing.

UWone77
15 August 2015, 11:11
Alright gents, moving on here... [:D][BD]

Slippers
15 August 2015, 11:44
Anyone committed that has astigmatism? That's my main beef with red dots. As soon as trijicon sends back my TA33 it was going replace my H1 on my SBR. I've gotten pretty good with it up close after taking some of Rob_s advice.

docsherm
15 August 2015, 11:50
Way to take one for the team doc. [:D]

Just doing my part.......;)

SINNER
15 August 2015, 12:22
Wow, dumbass comments?

Because the truth hurts so much....

If hes your hero, you should be offended btw. Id be for that 9 min video of nothing.

Yes. Your rant is ridiculous. It's a comparison video, that is clearly stated in the first 5 seconds he has not ran it yet. Honestly have no idea who that guy is, but he did a good job comparing it's physical properties to a known optic. Sorry if that's too hard to comprehend what it's intent was.

voodoo_man
15 August 2015, 12:29
Yes. Your rant is ridiculous. It's a comparison video, that is clearly stated in the first 5 seconds he has not ran it yet. Honestly have no idea who that guy is, but he did a good job comparing it's physical properties to a known optic. Sorry if that's too hard to comprehend what it's intent was.

And that pretty sums up my stance on the industry and what we as consumers allow people to get away with.

GOST
15 August 2015, 12:30
Did some like the video, and some not?[BD]

Cool, Travis Haley discussion over back to either discussing the MRO or the group buy.

voodoo_man
15 August 2015, 12:55
Did some like the video, and some not?[BD]

Cool, Travis Haley discussion over back to either discussing the MRO or the group buy.

No more talk needed. Someone get one and use it, then post about it AFTER using it.

Bonus points if you break it.

toolboxluis00200
15 August 2015, 13:01
No more talk needed. Someone get one and use it, then post about it AFTER using it.

Bonus points if you break it.

You super mad lol. Just messing whit you. :confused. [BD]

INTrooper4255
15 August 2015, 13:01
I LOVE my Aimpoint M4, but their price leaves it for me only owning one. This new Trijicon puts the price about right. If they can hit the streets for around $500 this is going to take some business from Aimpoint. Just my opinion.

MoxyDave
17 August 2015, 11:31
Just talked to RA, they have MRO's on order. They're willing to do a group buy for WEVO. After they look into pricing, and let me know what that is, I'll move forward with it, if the price makes sense.

We just need a rough head count of who would be interested. This is not a commitment by any means.

I'll bite. This would be great on my Sig 522.

UWone77
17 August 2015, 14:01
I'll bite. This would be great on my Sig 522.

I already counted you Dave. [BD]

MoxyDave
17 August 2015, 14:17
I already counted you Dave. [BD]

Crap, am I that predictable? [:)]

SINNER
17 August 2015, 14:28
I'll bite. This would be great on my Sig 522.

The first weapon I try mine on will be my SIG 556 SBR. I am finding a 4x ACOG to be a little more than needed on that.

And at least 10 rounds on my 50BMG to try to break it like voodoo_man wants to see.

2ATA
17 August 2015, 14:47
In case you haven't seen this price.....

http://swfa.com/Trijicon-1x25-MRO-Red-Dot-Sight-P87582.aspx

UWone77
17 August 2015, 14:53
In case you haven't seen this price.....

http://swfa.com/Trijicon-1x25-MRO-Red-Dot-Sight-P87582.aspx

I'm surprised they are advertising under MAP.

docsherm
17 August 2015, 15:18
Will that effect our buy?

UWone77
17 August 2015, 15:18
If that is the case can we get a better price?

I'm looking into it already.

docsherm
17 August 2015, 15:19
Cool

INTrooper4255
17 August 2015, 15:28
In case you haven't seen this price.....

http://swfa.com/Trijicon-1x25-MRO-Red-Dot-Sight-P87582.aspx

My word, that's better than I thought. This will be my next red dot!

Tyrannosaur
17 August 2015, 18:14
At that price I'll take one... damn it

titanse05
17 August 2015, 18:48
Was just coming here to put up that exceptional pricing at SWFA. Also, a Larue mount is supposed to be available in two weeks. I'd like to order the one without any mount and just wait for the Larue. :)

GOST
17 August 2015, 18:57
You guys asked Rainier for a group buy, and they responded. So At least give them a chance to respond to this SWFA post.

tact
17 August 2015, 19:30
Nonetheless, I plan on keeping my word with Rainier, assuming we get enough on board still, and I'm hopeful that I am not subjected to a crappy Larue mount.

GOST
17 August 2015, 20:23
Would be nice to see it offered without the Larue mount. That mount is not helping with that girl's figure. Would be cool to see someone like either Scalarworks or Midwest Industries modify one of their existing mounts to accept the MRO.

Dstrbdmedic167
17 August 2015, 20:30
I wont be in on the group buy but id love to see a MI or scalarworks mount!

UWone77
17 August 2015, 20:57
You guys asked Rainier for a group buy, and they responded. So At least give them a chance to respond to this SWFA post.

Well to be fair, I know everyone wants the lowest possible price... and knowing how much they cost vs SWFA's price if it holds true, they're basically making no money on them. At least not enough to make business sense. Maybe they ordered a few hundred and got an even steeper discount, but at the same time, it seems silly to allow someone to sell them and advertise below MAP.

GOST
18 August 2015, 03:25
Maybe they ordered a few hundred and got an even steeper discount, but at the same time, it seems silly to allow someone to sell them and advertise below MAP.

A practice that usually results in the loss of distributors for a manufacturer.

voodoo_man
18 August 2015, 04:03
i'm still down for a group buy...

Midwest Industries
18 August 2015, 08:05
Would be nice to see it offered without the Larue mount. That mount is not helping with that girl's figure. Would be cool to see someone like either Scalarworks or Midwest Industries modify one of their existing mounts to accept the MRO.

We will have a mount for the MRO. We wont compromise quality to get it out any faster, but as our track record indicates we can usually get parts to market in a rather speedy time! We have a good team here.

Thanks,
Pete

GOST
18 August 2015, 08:07
We will have a mount for the MRO. We wont compromise quality to get it out any faster, but as our track record indicates we can usually get parts to market in a rather speedy time! We have a good team here.

Thanks,
Pete

Sounds like another group buy.[BD]

voodoo_man
18 August 2015, 08:10
Sounds like another group buy.[BD]

make it happen!

docsherm
18 August 2015, 08:14
So any idea what mount they will come with? I talked to the guys at LaRue and their mount is currently not available to the public. They are only sending them to Trijicon.

SINNER
18 August 2015, 08:41
I hope Bobro gets on board. Still have not seen the mount interface on the optic. Curious as to how it is designed.

voodoo_man
18 August 2015, 08:45
I hope Bobro gets on board. Still have not seen the mount interface on the optic. Curious as to how it is designed.

Good idea, I'll send him an email and see what the deal is, I'd much prefer bobro to larue.

tact
18 August 2015, 08:59
I was told he was already in the works.

SINNER
18 August 2015, 09:01
Good idea, I'll send him an email and see what the deal is, I'd much prefer bobro to larue.

Please let us know what you find out.

titanse05
18 August 2015, 11:42
FYI, the prices were increased on the SWFA preorder page.

tact
18 August 2015, 12:20
That's funny.....

greenlineaz
18 August 2015, 12:58
I will definitely be interested in checking these out, and probably buying one.

GOST
18 August 2015, 12:59
In case you haven't seen this price.....

http://swfa.com/Trijicon-1x25-MRO-Red-Dot-Sight-P87582.aspx

SWFA's pre-order price has increased to $543.95 which is MAP. Rainier's group buy price of $495 looks a lot better now, spots are still available.

titanse05
18 August 2015, 13:40
If I was going to buy one it would of happened when I saw the $400 price at SWFA without a mount.....I'll let others be the beta testers. :o

FYI, SWFA is still offering an additional 12% discount on MAP prices.

UWone77
18 August 2015, 13:42
LOL... well look how that worked out.

$432 is damn near cost.

SINNER
18 August 2015, 14:02
I honestly could care less what SWFA sells them for. I will never give them a penny of my money. It does not surprise me one bit they changed their pricing. I wonder how that will work out for the people who prepaid.

Dstrbdmedic167
18 August 2015, 14:22
Id rather give rainier the difference and know I've got one coming. Not saying anyone will have issues but remember the old saying...

Don't bite the hand that feeds....

UWone77
18 August 2015, 15:05
I honestly could care less what SWFA sells them for. I will never give them a penny of my money. It does not surprise me one bit they changed their pricing. I wonder how that will work out for the people who prepaid.

SINNER... you crack me up bro.

SWFA has been a mixed bag for me. I've purchased a few scopes from them, but at the same time, they've also over promised and under delivered as well.

UWone77
18 August 2015, 16:19
So I touched bases with RA, we just need 10, so if you're still in, fill out the following and your preference of 1/3 or cowitness. We can accommodate more than 10, but out of their order to Trijicon on Monday, we were allocated 10.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

tact
18 August 2015, 16:40
So I touched bases with RA, we just need 10, so if you're still in, fill out the following and your preference of 1/3 or cowitness. We can accommodate more than 10, but out of their order to Trijicon on Monday, we were allocated 10.

1. tact - absolute
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Thanks.

voodoo_man
18 August 2015, 17:26
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Thanks.

SINNER
18 August 2015, 17:49
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Thanks.

Thanks

SINNER
18 August 2015, 17:59
SINNER... you crack me up bro.

SWFA has been a mixed bag for me. I've purchased a few scopes from them, but at the same time, they've also over promised and under delivered as well.

Kings of the back orders and fight you to refund your money.

Eric
18 August 2015, 19:24
I honestly could care less what SWFA sells them for. I will never give them a penny of my money. It does not surprise me one bit they changed their pricing. I wonder how that will work out for the people who prepaid. It was a pricing error. They fixed the price, but are honoring the lower cost for those that already paid.

Uffdaphil
19 August 2015, 01:32
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Thanks.

2ATA
19 August 2015, 06:39
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.2ATA - 1/3
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Thanks

ETA: decided to change to absolute.......because

Slippers
19 August 2015, 09:04
2:15 into Haley's second video after using it he says that the dot still gets messy with astigmatism. Oh well. :(

toolboxluis00200
19 August 2015, 09:05
For u voodoo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3XyEHSKKRE

MoxyDave
19 August 2015, 09:54
Do they offer a low mount? I can't remember for sure but I think I mounted my Aimpoint directly to the rail on my Sig 522, otherwise it's too tall.

voodoo_man
19 August 2015, 10:07
For u voodoo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3XyEHSKKRE

Saw it. 1 day on a range and he knows everything about it.

Uhh huh.

SINNER
19 August 2015, 10:30
that guy blow you off when you asked for an autograph or something?

voodoo_man
19 August 2015, 10:59
that guy blow you off when you asked for an autograph or something?

I have an issue with people representing themselves as something they arent and then they schill products because of dollar signs not actual experience of use. Or did we forget he has a whole line of lip balms and what not?

Plenty of "industry celebs" shouldn't have the following they do, but we dumb consumers put these people on these unquestioned pedestal.

As I posted in other threads elsewhere....you dont see Paul Howe or Kyle Defoor schilling everything under the sun and making these bullshit "reviews" of a product. That day at the range is tantamount ti nutnfancy's reviews, lots of talk, says nothing about the actual item or how it will work for you and me.

Im gana do an opinion piece on this type or review nonsense, its getting out of hand.

toolboxluis00200
19 August 2015, 11:25
I have an issue with people representing themselves as something they arent and then they schill products because of dollar signs not actual experience of use. Or did we forget he has a whole line of lip balms and what not?

Plenty of "industry celebs" shouldn't have the following they do, but we dumb consumers put these people on these unquestioned pedestal.

As I posted in other threads elsewhere....you dont see Paul Howe or Kyle Defoor schilling everything under the sun and making these bullshit "reviews" of a product. That day at the range is tantamount ti nutnfancy's reviews, lots of talk, says nothing about the actual item or how it will work for you and me.

Im gana do an opinion piece on this type or review nonsense, its getting out of hand.

Hate to see you when you really get mad. [BD]

SINNER
19 August 2015, 11:38
I have an issue with people representing themselves as something they arent and then they schill products because of dollar signs not actual experience of use. Or did we forget he has a whole line of lip balms and what not?

Plenty of "industry celebs" shouldn't have the following they do, but we dumb consumers put these people on these unquestioned pedestal.

As I posted in other threads elsewhere....you dont see Paul Howe or Kyle Defoor schilling everything under the sun and making these bullshit "reviews" of a product. That day at the range is tantamount ti nutnfancy's reviews, lots of talk, says nothing about the actual item or how it will work for you and me.

Im gana do an opinion piece on this type or review nonsense, its getting out of hand.

I agree with what you said. But I could care less about marketing or who is hawking what. That is exactly why I said I could care less if that guy ran it or not in the first video. Who gives a shit what his opinion on it is. I liked seeing the comparison of physical attributes to the Aimpoint and that's it.

I do find it very humorous that first you rant about his review for not actually using it then you rant about not using it enough. Maybe we can send him to Iraq for a few months and really give you the low down on it. LOL

voodoo_man
19 August 2015, 12:41
I agree with what you said. But I could care less about marketing or who is hawking what. That is exactly why I said I could care less if that guy ran it or not in the first video. Who gives a shit what his opinion on it is. I liked seeing the comparison of physical attributes to the Aimpoint and that's it.

I do find it very humorous that first you rant about his review for not actually using it then you rant about not using it enough. Maybe we can send him to Iraq for a few months and really give you the low down on it. LOL

Or....trijicon send it to LEOs in the field who do "work" to use and fill out a review set of paperwork.

Wow what a concept.

I could care less about what someone's experience with something in iraq is, no one here lives there, so thats that.

Point is, one day on the range and hes an expert on the matter? Dont think so.

...and while you and I may not care, you have thousands of arfcom troll types that take his word as gospel. Knowing that alone should give anyone who isnt an ignorant person pause and lose some respect for someone who does that.

MoxyDave
19 August 2015, 12:41
Shill or not, Haley has the experience to look at something like this and make an educated determination. Say what you will about the man, but he's well-educated and has a lot of experience with firearms and their accessories.

When a new computer part comes out, I can look at it and instantly determine its utility. I don't have to physically put my hands on it or use it in most cases. I just have that much background in the industry. It is possible to make an assessment of something without having used it first.

voodoo_man
19 August 2015, 12:55
Shill or not, Haley has the experience to look at something like this and make an educated determination. Say what you will about the man, but he's well-educated and has a lot of experience with firearms and their accessories.

When a new computer part comes out, I can look at it and instantly determine its utility. I don't have to physically put my hands on it or use it in most cases. I just have that much background in the industry. It is possible to make an assessment of something without having used it first.

I am not saying anything ill of his experience, so lets not even look in that direction.

What I have been pointing out is that looking at something and knowing how it will perform over a span of time under hard use (ie; what its designed for) without actually doing it are directly opposite of what he did, which is do a "review" based on first impressions and one day at the range.

There have been plenty of examples of items that came out of the box looking like they were going to work excellent and did not meet their expectations under hard use, with haley, its been one after the other....the incog....d3 rig.....etc

Unlike the technology/computer industry, worst case scenario for an end user is that he buys a graphics card and his computer bottlenecks because other issues he didn't consider, giving him 50fps instead of 60fps in call of duty. In the tactical industry, some LEO/MIL probably bought the SRS or Eotech thinking its the best thing since sliced bread because *insert name here* recommended it (without actually using it in the capacity he is going to) and then got himself into a situation where the optic shit the bed, putting him in a very real dangerous situation.

We should expect more from the people we as consumers buy into in this industry.

SINNER
19 August 2015, 13:48
Lmfao at the send them to LEO's. I find about 1 out of every 100 LEO's actually have half a clue about firearms.

Slippers
19 August 2015, 13:53
Lmfao at the send them to LEO's. I find about 1 out of every 100 LEO's actually have half a clue about firearms.

Yeah, I doubt less than 0.01% of LEOs are like Voodoo or some of the other guys on wevo. I have two friends locally in Raleigh PD and one avoids shooting as much as possible, and both tell me that the only "gun guys" are on swat.

voodoo_man
19 August 2015, 13:57
Lmfao at the send them to LEO's. I find about 1 out of every 100 LEO's actually have half a clue about firearms.

I should have added "vetted and trusted" to that, my apologies.

There are plenty of people who will actually have use for the things that these companies produce in the capacity which will work for everyone involved. The companies do not want to get involved in doing that because it opens them up to the inevitable "bad review" that is so illusive from the types of people they send these items to.

One of the reasons I credit Samson MFG and their Operation-X program. They send stuff free to people who will use them and all they have to do is include samson's name when they post about it, most of which have done reviews or will do review of their items....Pretty smart on their end.

UWone77
19 August 2015, 14:16
Lmfao at the send them to LEO's. I find about 1 out of every 100 LEO's actually have half a clue about firearms.


Yeah, I doubt less than 0.01% of LEOs are like Voodoo or some of the other guys on wevo. I have two friends locally in Raleigh PD and one avoids shooting as much as possible, and both tell me that the only "gun guys" are on swat.

That's about right.... in our department, we have days where you can come to the range and shoot as much ammo as you want, all day long.

Out of 350+ Officers, you might get 15 guys to show up.

Out of the 15-20 guys, maybe 5-10 are really into shooting, guns, gear, ect.

voodoo_man
19 August 2015, 14:19
That's about right.... in our department, we have days where you can come to the range and shoot as much ammo as you want, all day long.

Out of 350+ Officers, you might get 15 guys to show up.

Out of the 15-20 guys, maybe 5-10 are really into shooting, guns, gear, ect.

Let me guess those guys aren't SWAT or anything like that right?

The guys on our tac teams are as far from SWAT as I am from a white collar crime investigator, they can clear a room, sure, but stick anyone with street experience in a Michelin man suit and give him a few weeks of swat school, they'll be able to do it too.

toolboxluis00200
19 August 2015, 14:22
Ask stickman he has one

restfortheweary
19 August 2015, 17:49
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.2ATA - 1/3
6. restfortheweary- absolute
7.
8.
9.
10.
Thanks

Farva
20 August 2015, 01:22
If you are so inclined post up where you are going to get one from or PM me if its LE-specific ;)

I would like to hop on this wagon as well. I know Im a little late to the game on this thread but like others have said its the objective lens size thats pulled my eye!

GOST
20 August 2015, 01:56
Here's one from Sentinel Concepts' Steve Fisher.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HSShOQYUqjE

Farva
20 August 2015, 02:32
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.2ATA - 1/3
6. restfortheweary- absolute
7. Farva- absolute
8.
9.
10.
Thanks

I guess I should have read the entire thread before I posted. Im in though.

voodoo_man
20 August 2015, 04:54
Three more. Make it happen

2ATA
20 August 2015, 05:13
Disregard

WarEagle
20 August 2015, 05:51
Ill get it on this.

Absolute please.

tact
20 August 2015, 06:20
If we need to fill a spot to make this work, I will take another just to wrap it up .......just throwing that out there.

UWone77
20 August 2015, 06:28
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.2ATA - 1/3
6. restfortheweary- absolute
7.
8.
9.
10. UW 1/3

UWone77
20 August 2015, 06:29
Ill get it on this.

Absolute please.

What kind of mount? 1/3 or absolute?

WarEagle
20 August 2015, 06:30
What kind of mount? 1/3 or absolute?

Absolute please


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UWone77
20 August 2015, 06:39
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.2ATA - 1/3
6. restfortheweary- absolute
7. WarEagle absolute
8.
9.
10. UW 1/3

Farva
20 August 2015, 07:30
1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.2ATA - 1/3
6. restfortheweary- absolute
7. WarEagle absolute
8.
9.
10. UW 1/3

You missed me sir.

UWone77
20 August 2015, 07:38
You missed me sir.

Not on purpose.... or was it? [BD]

Farva
20 August 2015, 07:42
We may never know haha

voodoo_man
20 August 2015, 10:05
Bobro said he needs one to make a mount and will do so when he has one.

So ill be holding out for that mount.

MoxyDave
20 August 2015, 12:09
I think I'm gonna hold off ... truth is I have too much junk anyway, need to thin the herd ...

zero7one
20 August 2015, 13:48
I am definitely interested!

voodoo_man
20 August 2015, 13:49
I am definitely interested!

...add your name to the list?

UWone77
20 August 2015, 13:59
Current list.

1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.2ATA - 1/3
6. restfortheweary- absolute
7. WarEagle absolute
8. Farva absolute
9.
10. UW 1/3

zero7one
20 August 2015, 14:07
...add your name to the list?

Sorry....in the optic....will have to grab the optic first, then a mount.

voodoo_man
20 August 2015, 14:12
Sorry....in the optic....will have to grab the optic first, then a mount.

1. tact - absolute
2. Vdm - absolute...vodka?
3.SINNER absolute
4.Uffda - absolute
5.2ATA - 1/3
6. restfortheweary- absolute
7. WarEagle absolute
8. Farva absolute
9. zero7one - absolute? I am guessing?
10. UW 1/3


ok then....

GOST
20 August 2015, 16:55
Saw this pic on Scalarworks Facebook page, what are they up to?;)

https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11895057_415625748636181_607379355059791977_o.png? efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9

tact
20 August 2015, 17:59
That'll work.....

UWone77
20 August 2015, 18:00
Scalarworks... we need a group buy on mounts. [BD]

tact
20 August 2015, 18:01
Yes....

voodoo_man
21 August 2015, 02:02
Scalarworks... we need a group buy on mounts. [BD]

Where are you getting all this money from? Lol

mustangfreek
21 August 2015, 02:32
lol...voodoo...


Dont mind me i just read this whole thread, it was good for a laugh and some info..lol...

You guys carry on...[:D]

voodoo_man
21 August 2015, 04:34
lol...voodoo...


Dont mind me i just read this whole thread, it was good for a laugh and some info..lol...

You guys carry on...[:D]

http://cdn.memestache.com/2011/10/3/hipsterkitty_72002_1319652003.jpg

WarEagle
21 August 2015, 16:49
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5738/20762732612_ec7c0f029a_c.jpg

Hodge Defense X Mega Arms

http://soldiersystems.net/2015/08/21/sneak-peek-hodge-defense-dogbone-mount-for-the-trijicon-mro/

toolboxluis00200
21 August 2015, 17:14
http://cdn.memestache.com/2011/10/3/hipsterkitty_72002_1319652003.jpg

I say both lol

toolboxluis00200
21 August 2015, 17:16
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5738/20762732612_ec7c0f029a_c.jpg

Hodge Defense X Mega Arms

http://soldiersystems.net/2015/08/21/sneak-peek-hodge-defense-dogbone-mount-for-the-trijicon-mro/

Man that looks cool

Eric
22 August 2015, 04:52
I like the clear exterior POI adjustment markings. Very handy.

voodoo_man
22 August 2015, 11:27
I like the clear exterior POI adjustment markings. Very handy.

Yea I always forget if its not labeled lol

WarEagle
22 August 2015, 12:21
Alamo Fourstar has a mount. $119.00

http://www.alamofourstar.com/images/MRO_w_Alamo_135-sm.jpg

http://www.alamofourstar.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=45&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2

toolboxluis00200
22 August 2015, 13:06
That was fast

2ATA
24 August 2015, 05:33
Looks like we got the 10. What's the next step?

voodoo_man
24 August 2015, 05:51
Looks like we got the 10. What's the next step?

seriously, the money is burning a hole in my pocket ;)

2ATA
24 August 2015, 06:00
seriously, the money is burning a hole in my pocket ;)

It's been days since I bought a gun item............I need my fix.

GOST
24 August 2015, 06:02
On the TOS thread they mentioned the US release was delayed due to Trijicon filling a large order for the IDF. Their web-site still stays that it ships in 4 weeks.

voodoo_man
24 August 2015, 06:16
On the TOS thread they mentioned the US release was delayed due to Trijicon filling a large order for the IDF. Their web-site still stays that it ships in 4 weeks.

4 weeks?!

https://i.imgflip.com/pznu0.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/pznu0)via Imgflip Meme Maker (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)

SINNER
24 August 2015, 07:27
What the hell. Doesn't Trijicon know WEVO takes precedence over the Israeli's. LOL

tact
24 August 2015, 19:21
I see it advertised without a mount. If there's a no mount option through Rainier, it would be preferable.....unless of course we have to take a mount. I just don't ever foresee myself using it.

UWone77
24 August 2015, 19:36
I see it advertised without a mount. If there's a no mount option through Rainier, it would be preferable.....unless of course we have to take a mount. I just don't ever foresee myself using it.

Ok, I'll firm up our options this week and report back.