Explain your AR15 layout... [Archive] - Page 2

sjohnny

7 June 2010, 10:02

I finally have an AR15 layout to explain. This is my first AR and I built it piece by piece over the course of about a year. It's pretty simple, nothing really special in it.
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Once it's complete and I've trained with it and it has been demonstrated to be accurate and reliable (and I have an intimate familarity with it) it will replace my shotgun for bump in the night investigation. With that end in mind I decided to keep it pretty simple.
CTR stock - lightweight, stable, straightforward. At this point I don't really need to store anything. This one feels good.
MIAD grip - I played with a lot of grips and this one felt the best in my hand. I find the A2 grips to be way too small. I have a couple of foam ear plugs in the storage area.
LRB lower - this is the part that started the whole thing. I bought it from Ranier on the group buy.
Stag LPK - There wasn't much available when I was shopping for LPKs. I got this one from a dealer at a gun show: "$65 for that Stag thing or for only $15 more you can get the DPMS." "Guess I'll just go ahead and get the Stag."
BCM upper receiver - not much to say about an upper. Great fit and finish.
MOE Handguards - Budget was also a large concern on this rifle. I'm not ready to spend the money on a rail but wanted more flexibility than standard handguards. In all honesty I also just like the way these look. A rail may be in the distant future but I honestly don't know if one is necessary for my use.
Daniel Defense 16" barrel - I went back and forth on whether I wanted a 16" or a 14.5". I'm not ready to take the NFA plunge. I finally decided on the 16" basically because I didn't want to hassle with the permanently attached FH. BCM put these DD barrels on closeout (I assume because they switched to CHF). It was too good a deal to pass up. I don't believe my skill or experience is enough to be able to tell the difference.
A2 Flash Hider - Something cheap to stick on the end of the barrel.
The rear sight is a carry handle with the handle removed. This rifle will very likely someday have an optic on it but I plan on using irons for the time being until I can afford a good quality optic. I didn't see the need for sights that flip.

Currently the BCG that is in it is a M261 that a friend gave me. I'm hoping to have the money for the centerfire BCG later this summer. In the meantime I'll be using .22LR to get familiar with the platform.

I haven't fixed on a sling yet but I'm leaning toward a Gear Sector single point. Before this rifle takes over for the shotgun a TLR-1 will be mounted on it.

I think that's it.

Urban Tactical Gear

10 June 2010, 17:08

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CMMG Upper and Barrel - Picked this combo up from Bryan at AIM. It came off one of his weapons. CMMG is known for it's quality and i got it for a steal. Couldn't pass it up.
Midwest Industries T-12 12" Rail - Another Used part. I wanted a 12" rail and well... I think I should have kept looking. Not impressed with the way it installed or the final alignment.
Spike's $84 special lower - Man, I'll tell you what. If this is their "seconds" i'd love to see their "firsts". The Bolt catch retainer pin needed to be filed out by one or two strokes with a jeweler's file, but other than that it looks great!
A2 stock - Well I thought that's what I wanted. Problem is i've changed my shooting stance since I last shot a fixed stock (circa 2004). Now that I shoot more squared up I've found the A2 to be to long. Oh well. Adapt and over come right?
Magpul Miad Grip - Hands down the most comfortable grip i've held to date. I like the fact that I was able to customize it to my hand.
Magpul MBUS Rear - Came with the upper. will be replaced by the new A.R.M.S. 71L series sights
ADM AD-Scout Mount - I refuse to give money to "the other guy", the GG&G mount was spec'd to low, and borbo was to $$. I got this like new mount for $90 shipped. Couldn't pass it up.
Leatherwood 1-4x24mm glass - New Glass on the market. I really wanted a 1x variable scope. That way i'm not having to piggy back or offset a red dot. The green horseshoe reticle and mil-dots sealed the deal. Just got it in today, so i'll have a range report later.
Rainer Arms XTC Compensator - Haven't had a chance to put the second one through it's paces yet. i'll be hitting the range with it later this month.

Adding soon:
Magpul AFG - I don't really grip a traditional VFG like they are designed to. this looks to be more my style.
Arms 71l series sights - New sights by a kick ass manufacturer. Going to give them a wirl and report back.
Magpul UBR - Fixed stock look with adjustability. can't go wrong.

Kitty

18 June 2010, 08:14

Is your front MBUS on backwards on purpose?

I think the parts used are pretty apparent, but if you have any questions, just ask.

Recently updated CQBR.

She has Bushmaster roll-marks on her, but all that is left of the original BM rifle is the upper and lower housings.
Everything else has been replaced little-by-little over time.

Next step is to replace the 16" barrel with a 12" and make her a SBR. ;)

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HeavyDuty

20 June 2010, 10:06

This started out as a simple rebarreling project, then it was a new upper; by the time I was done every single component was replaced - almost like the 200 year old axe joke. This is meant to be a general purpose carbine covering everything from home defense through carbine classes up to SHTF.

The whats and whys:

Lower receiver - AGP Arms. I wanted a great quality forged receiver without FA markings (IL is a squirrelly state) and marked 5.56 instead of "multi". I first used one of AGP's lowers on my dedicated .22LR build and was so impressed with the quality that I decided to use them for future builds. I used a RRA LPK and a RRA star selector - their LPKs are decent quality to my experience and I like the star because I find it easier to manipulate.

Upper receiver, BCG and Gunfighter Mod 5 charging handle - Bravo Company. Good, solid, quality upper and BCG, and I like the wider latch on the Mod 5 CH. I've played with a few non-BCM oversized latches and don't care for them - they dig in and snag my gear when slung, probably due to my body shape.

Barrel - Daniel Defense CHF chrome-lined 1:7 pencil 14.5" with a pinned Saylors Machine Phoenix flash suppressor. I'm not a fan of heavier barrels and when these became available through G&R I abandoned all plans of using another Bushmaster Superlight. This isn't meant to be a minimum weight build, but IMO lighter is better for balance.

Magazines - my actively used magazines are all Magpul Maglevel PMAGs. I do have a pile of USGI 20 and 30 rounders, but the Magpuls have always functioned 100% for me.

Iron Sights - a "F" FSB with a Hahn Precision rear BUIS. I prefer a pinned front sight base for durability and simplicity on "serious" rifles and carbines. I've owned several different rear BUIS over the years and handled a whole lot more, and most of them are IMO too complex for a BUIS. I wanted a simple folding rear that was low profile, low parts count and durable. The Hahn met my needs perfectly - it mounts up solid, has a sturdy aperture stalk and is almost impossible to inadvertently change zero because it uses an A1 windage drum.

RDS - EOTech XPS2-0 in a GG&G Accucam QD mount. I've used an EOTech for about five years now after first using an early Aimpoint and prefer the ring-and-dot sight picture to a simple red dot. My old 511 eats batteries, but the XPS series seems to be a mature product. I'm not a huge fan of lower 1/3 cowitness which is why I went with the GG&G - I wanted QD capability without a riser, GG&G is the only solution I know.

Buttstock - ACS buttstock with enhanced buttpad. ACS is pretty much my default stock - I like the cheekweld, it balances well for me since I prefer slightly butt-heavy balance and (with the enhanced buttpad) is just about the perfect length for me two clicks out in shirtsleeves or one click out in a chore coat. There's a broken cartridge removal tool, an A1 rear sight tool and a A2 front sight tool stashed in the hinged compartment plus extra foam earplugs in the tubes. I went with Foliage Green for the furniture because the color works well most of the year around here.

Pistol grip - Magpul MOE pistol grip with a 123 battery insert. Magpul's PG shape works well for me after years of using Hogue PGs; I have tried TD and Ergo PGs, but prefer the MOE/MIAD shape. MIAD has features I don't need, so MOE it is.

Handguard - Daniel Defense Omega with Gear Sector handstop and Magpul XT rail covers. The rail was the last big decision I made; I originally tried a MOE handguard on this carbine but was getting frustrated with both the lack of space and poor position for white light mounting and the need to kludge together a HK sling loop. I tried a few other rail covers (Troy, TD, ladders) before settling on the XTs - XTMs were my second choice but I preferred the texture and thin profile of the XTs. I also played around with several different offhand accessories - a few different VFGs, an AFG, two different handstops - before I tried a Gear Sector handstop which proved to be what I was looking for.

Slinging - Boonie Packer 2-TQA converted to a 1/2 point using HK clips, a Magpul ASAP and a Gear Sector HK loop on the Omega. I'm still relatively new to tactical slinging and was turned on to Boonie Packer by kwranglin's suggestions. Their 2-TQA sling when converted to 1/2 point configuration using HK snap hooks does everything I need. The ASAP works well for me - I prefer a rear of receiver mount (again due to body type) and a rear of handguard sling point. The Gear Sector mount is a quality piece of kit that doesn't stick out as much as some other mounts, a consideration on the short carbine handguard.

White light - Streamlight TLR-1 mounted on a Daniel Defense 1:00 rail mount. IMO a carbine length handguard doesn't have enough room to mount a white light directly to a side rail, but cantilevering it off the top works well for my hold. I went with the TLR due to budget - I couldn't justify an X-300. It's really the only cost compromise I've made on this carbine; in retrospect I'd do it again.

The future - I hesitate to ever call a project "complete", but this one is awfully damn close. The only thing I'm still considering adding is a Wilson Combat TTU, but that's unlikely. I'm trying to get involved in carbine classes, and I wouldn't be surprised that my configuration gets tweaked a bit as I find what really works when things go bang.

I've put a lot of thought and effort into this carbine and am very pleased with how it has turned out. I wasn't afraid to experiment while working this one up (different sling points, a cheaper oval drop-in HG to see whether I wanted a rail or not, an AFG, a VFG) which helped a lot. I've very interested to see how my configuration works out in carbine classes and practical drills; if something has to change based on what I learn, it will.

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Quib

20 June 2010, 10:14

How do you like the TLR-1 mounted in that position?

HeavyDuty

20 June 2010, 10:44

How do you like the TLR-1 mounted in that position?

Thanks, Quib.

I like it a lot. When I first got the TLR I tried it in different locations but it was just too cramped for me directly on the handguard. I don't care for sight tower mounts (just a personal thing), and when I came across the 1:00 mount I figured I'd give it a try. I like how it "hovers" the light above the front of the rail, all I have to do is lift my thumb from where I keep it on top of the rail to hit either TLR paddle. It's out of the way for normal shooting.

I was worried I'd beat my thumb up under recoil but it hasn't been a problem. I am thinking about hitting the end of the TLR battery box latch with some Plasti-dip, it's a little sharp if I fumble the grip.

Quib

20 June 2010, 11:56

Thanks, Quib.
I am thinking about hitting the end of the TLR battery box latch with some Plasti-dip, it's a little sharp if I fumble the grip.

Sounds like a good idea.

Ever since I added the TLR-1 to my carbine, I've been entertaining the idea of making the switch paddles less prone to accidental activation. I should look back into that again......

Rusty_ Shackleford

24 June 2010, 20:04

My "go-to" rifle:
Spikes upper and lower receiver: I try to branch out and get a variety of receivers, especially from those who go above and beyond on customer support, so when I saw Spikes was planning on a brown anodized receiver set I grabbed my phone and got on the list. While the fit and finish is not as nice as Mega (a little play and some minor machining marks), everything is in spec and I love it. It looked like the upper had a little dry moly in it, but I went ahead and gave it a good coat anyways since I start my builds now with some in the upper and on the charging handle.
DD Mk18 RIS II rail: not going to lie, I got this because I wanted a 10" rail and something to match up with the receivers, the fact I found it new for the same price as a Lite made it easier. I have Lite rails on 3 of my other builds and love them, I do plan on getting an Omega X for my next because I hate that the Lite has no QD sockets. I went with 10" because I discovered how cramped a carbine length gets on my last build.
Noveske CQB Barrel: I originally was going to go with a 11.5" in either the Sabre or BCM flavor, but I found this on the EE new with a pinned GB for cheap, so I jumped on it. It had some issues and ended up getting sent back for an out-of-spec gas port, but with awesome customer service and a fast return it hasn't skipped a beat since.
A2 Flash Hider: I think I have every fancy FH around and have gotten to the point that the A2 does everything I need and like without the extra cash. If I wanted a brake that would be different.
Troy Sights: I have always liked Troy BUIS, this was my first front sight from them, I wish they took AR sight posts since the AK post is so fat in mine, but for a CQB setup it cant go wrong.
BCM Bolt Carrier Group: not much to say about this, good for the money and I know I have their support should an issue ever arise.
Bravo Mod3 Charging Handle: Love this thing, I have always put larger CHs on my SHTF guns, but the gunfighter knocks the socks off any Badger.
Aimpoint T-1 w/ Larue mount: I like simple and reliable things, the T-1 is everything. I would put them on all my rifles if they had a 2MOA version, but for this use I can't complain. I also prefer lower 1/3 for CQB.
Magpul BAD lever: I got this for the same reason it was made, makes reloads a snap and combined with GunFighter it makes clearing a double feed stupidly easy.
Magpul ASAP mount and MS2 Sling: I normally have been a 2 point sling, but I wanted a decent 1 pointer for this rifle, glad I went with the Magpul. I still have a Gear sector QD for when I use my padded VTAC or Gear Sector GS-2P, but I am pretty much 1-pointer now for this rifle. I can say that in a t-shirt and a long day, the magpul will ride up my shoulder to my neck and rub, which makes me hope for a wider or padded version.
SureFire Scout w/ SR07 switch: I got this new ridiculously cheap, but soon found that I could not have it at the 9'Oclock with my AFG where I want/need it, and couldn't operate it at 3'Oclock. So I got the SR07 switch which allows me to maintain my grip and use it, and the light is in a location where I can still shoot non-dominant and have a place for my hand. Ultimately I would like a offset mount on the left.
Magpul AFG: I have always used shorty foregrips with just my pinky and ring finger, so the AFG seemed right up my alley. First impressions were low until I stippled it and gave it some texture. Wasn't sure how it was going to go, but after a class this weekend I couldn't be happier.
Magpul XTM panels: I wanted to mess around with dye and always liked the camo look.
Magpul MIAD: simply the best fitting grip I have tried. This was dyed along with the stock and some XTM panels.
Magpul CTR: My favorite carbine stock, easy and rugged.
Armalite Lower Parts Kit: decided to try a "higher end" lower parts kit, everything is tops, trigger has 0 creep which takes some getting used to. Still waiting on a Troy ambi selector.

think that covers it all. The gun has a Spikes ST-T2 buffer and runs like a champ, lubed with Spectro Platinum 10w-50 simply because I always have extra after changing the oil on my bike.

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That is super nice!

goteron

25 June 2010, 17:56

LWRC M6A2 12.7" Carbine Length 5.56 - Good length compromise for size / velocity

Aimpoint T-1 in Larue Tall Mount - High Quality no paralax optic with long battery life and little weight
Insight PEQ-15 ATPIAL - IR laser and illuminator for Active night shooting
Surefire M620V - White and IR light - Active night shooting, better than PEQ-15 Illuminator
TNVC PVS-14 Quick Mount - For Passive Night Shooting, Best QD Mounting Solution around
TROY BUIS - Excellent quality Backup irons
Magpul CTR - Light and Small
Magpul MOE - Good geometry for me
Ambi Safety - For Support Side Safety manipulation
Magpul BAD - Malfunction Clearance and Quicker Mag changes
VLTOR / BCM Gunfighter - Ultra Strong charging Handle with large latch for easier manipulation
Surefire Dual Pressure Switch - Easy Manipulation of Light and PEQ-15
Magpul AFG - Works well for the over the top Hold and very comfortable
Magpul ASAP - For use with MS2 (Will probably change this)
CQD Forward Mount - FOr use with MS2 (Will probably change this too)
Spikes T-2 Buffer - Smoother recoil impulse and perfect for use with Suppressor
AAC SPR/M4 Suppressor - Reflex design, great sound suppression, minimal added length
Custom SPR/M4 Brake - Integrated BattleComp and SPR/M4 Mount - Best of both worlds, recoil mitigation when not using the suppressor, and can mount the can.
Aimpoint 3x Mag in Larue Mount - When Needed
Magpul XTM Panels - For color coordination
Geisselle SSA Trigger - I prefer two stage, and this is the best game in town.

And now to the good stuff, sorry for the poor quality.

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lmtrocks

1 July 2010, 21:56

mjkeat

3 July 2010, 14:32

First purchased 1 year ago it has gone through a few different layouts. Im thinking this is the last. Its a M6A1 after a little Drimel work. This rifle is very comfortable to shoot and accurate.

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Starting with the stock. The ACS was chosen for looks at first and has proven to be perfect for balancing after adding the longer rail. I chose the Mod 3 CH for quicker/left handed manipulation. Eotech XPS dot & donut for quick target acqusition with the ability to take aimed shots w/ the dot. MBus for the price to be honest. Miad grip for its adjustability and comfort. The AFG positions my non firing hand in a nice sturdy way that makes follow-up shots quicker for me. THe Troy rail was chasen for its light weight, slim profile and looks.THe sling is from Larue and was originally thrown in on an order "just because" but has turned out to be a great sling. All in all it has become a great handling weapon that one day I hope to really put through the pases.

I forgot to add the BAD lever. It makes reloads a breeze and I imagine would allow a person to stay focused on the likely and known.

sangria7

5 July 2010, 17:04

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Basic Build - My build looks at budget and functionality. Overall my platform is under 8lbs and all the parts function very well. r

1. Upper and Lower S&W Receivers. Wanted to try something different but a a budget price.
2. Magpul MOE Handguard, Pistol Grip, Buttstock, and AFG
3. Spikes Tactical Buffer - heavier buffer to reduce recoil
4. BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle, Medium - gives me ability to charge with left hand
5. Midwest Industries Sling Adapter and MI Single Point Sling - bungee type sling
6. Primary Arms M3 Red Dot and x3 Magnifier - budget optics and even though not an Aimpoint; works very well.

Inbound:
a. Magpul B.A.D Lever - right hand operation for bolt lock
b. Rainier Arms XTC Compensator - one of the better budget compensator on market.

Stickman

5 July 2010, 17:30

Guys, please remember to post WHY you selected the parts you are using. While listing the parts is nice, it doesn't help other readers understand why you decided on the parts you are using, and what the pros and cons are.

lmtrocks

7 July 2010, 08:40

My first AR pistol. 7.62x39. It's 28.25" long and the 30mm ring is missing the Aimpoint Comp M2. TLR-1. Hopefully soon a TLR-1s will be taking it's place. Can't wait to get this thing to the range. Still need charging handle and badger tac latch and bolt carrier group. That'll come in the following weeks. OD Green rail ladders by Tony's Custom Ladders. They're nice to put on and hold very well. Not pictured is an OD sling by Northwest Tactical. Single point.

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This lower is for function testing. When it gives me two thumbs up I'll be sending the $200 to the ATF for SBRing my LMT lower. This setup resides on an LMT upper and TNW lower that is virgin.

Thanks for the reminder Stick---it's easy to get lost in the awesome pictures everyone posts here [:D]

The TNW lower was available locally for good $$$. $85 OTD. I had my stripped LMT upper with me to look at the fit and finish of the two when sitting on each other. Golf Tango Golf.

I also chose the Wilson Arms 7.62x39 barrel from Delton because it was extremely cost effective. $165. It came with the FSB that I cut down to make a low profile gas block out of. I much prefer pinned because they're the most secure method of keeping a gas block in place. I could've chosen the ER Shaw 11.5" barrel from M1S but I knew with the 10" YHM Specter LW handguard I only wanted the flash hider showing from the end of the handguard and keeping the gas block covered. I like the look and it makes for a much smaller footprint. I had a friend locally with a CNC lathe cut the barrel down to where the flash hider/crush washer showed and put a 1/2x36 thread on it. The flash hider is a 9mm from Brownells. $60 each. "Pain compliance" tip if used in CQB. Doesn't stop muzzle flash like a Vortex would but does a good job nonetheless. If my house was ever broken into there would be 135 lumens for target identification.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26824/Product/AR_15_M16_TACTICAL_FLASH_SUPPRESSOR

The 30mm mount didn't have my Vortex Strikefire in it during that picture but it is in there for the mean time for function testing. I am picking up my Aimpoint Comp M2 next week. With Sportsman's Whse reopening in Lexington I layawayed it for $319+tax. $340 NIB. That was a good day.

The YHM Specter length handguard installs very easily. I read somewhere that those with armorers wrenches can install the barrel nut without purchasing the YHM barrel nut wrench. Plus the fact that I got the rail system from Jsesurplus.com for $99 + s/h. The Tony's Custom Ladders are also available from there for $3 each. I figured since I always wanted green ladders they were worth a shot. They grip nicely, and imho they look good.

The TLR-1 is mounted at 6 o'clock because even though the Vortex is in the high mount I can still see the TLR-1 in the sight picture. I am one of those persons that can't stand to have anything in my sight picture. My handguns mount lights below the barrel so I do the same on my long guns.

CProduct magazines for the 7.62x39 are readily available and decently priced. Aimsurplus has the "30 round" mags which actually hold 28 for about $13 ea plus shipping. I load mine to 25. Just got the 10rd mags yesterday. Will be function testing them soon as well.

Lastly the Northeast Tactical SP sling is also in OD green. I have plans to put a magpul asap on my LMT lower but only after the SBR process is complete. In the mean time an ambi sling plate resides where the normal egg plate would go.

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sangria7

23 July 2010, 17:44

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More on my AR.

Added the following:

1. BAD Lever: Made sense to add this because I had the Gunfighter charging handle. Now I can fully manipulate the rifle without leaving fire control.

2. XTC Compensator: Rainier Arms Comp is a great comp for its price. Muzzle rise was minimized and the recoil controlled rearward. I did not notice any significant difference in blast sound. Reminds me of the old AK style comps.

3. Magpul Enhance Butt-pad: I added to see if I can get more felt-recoil reduction and better comfort with this. It is a little hard to get used to since it is significantly thicker, but I have yet to range test this.

4. Magpul Advanced Trigger Guard: Better suited shooting with gloves.

5. Tango Down VGF: After switching over two dozens time between the Magpul AFG and a UTG VFG, I finally broke down and bought a Tango Down VFG. I must say I prefer it now better than the AFG. The UTG VFG was just too bulky and did not feel right. The AFG felt fine, but the Tango Down VFG was my favorite. It allowed me to control the weapon the best either with a standard grip or the thumb break method.

Group Picture

23 July 2010, 20:07

This is my first post. Nice stuff guys.

Glad to be here.

devildogljb

31 July 2010, 01:55

New to the site and i figured the best way to say hi is to show my rifle. I use it for home protection as long as target shooting, I love the magpul gear ive tried other makes and i felt the most comortable with their products and never failed me. I also went with KAC rail covers they are rock solid and i think they give you the most for your money. I also went with a YHM comp and i couldnt be happier with it. And now as for the optic its a Aimpoint Clone that i bought after trying some one elses at the range and loved it, so far it works pretty good holds zero and is very clear what more could you ask for. Of course i would like the real one but i would rather spend the money on ammo and if it breaks it breaks i wont loose any sleep over it.
When i first bought her
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Eighty 0ne

31 July 2010, 20:45

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Olympic Arms K3B-A3

Magpul MOE Stock
Magpul MIAD pistol grip
Magpul AFG
Magpul BIUS
Magpul Handguards
Magpul Enhanced Trigger Guard
EOTech 516.A65
UTG Carbine Length Free Float Rail System (Suprisingly pleased with this)

This rifle started out as a simple K3B that I picked up from J&S Guns in Lacey, WA right after receiving the 1st Time Home Buyers Stimulus. It has since changed many times until it reached this configuration. I absolutely love the way this rifle performs. I have sent over 2,000 rounds down range and have had zero malfunctions.

Eighty 0ne

31 July 2010, 20:53

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FrankenRifle

SNS "Skull" Lower
DPMS Lower Parts Kit
Rainier Arms flat top upper

This rifle will eventually be chambered in 5.45 x 39 and have a piston driven system. This is my first build from scratch and has been a great learning experience.

Vise

1 August 2010, 21:59

Albert

2 August 2010, 00:45

That's a nice, so cool.

Eighty 0ne

2 August 2010, 13:33

Thanks guys!

The-S

9 August 2010, 11:29

Alright piece by piece

When I put this together I wanted a muzzle brake, not a flash hider. I decided to use a Troy Claymore due to the size of the overall gun. It functions great and is actually quite sharp (don't ask how I know)

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/troy.jpg

Front sight is a Magpul MBUS. I hardly ever use them but it seems to work flawlessly.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/mbusf.jpg

The rail might be one of the most important factors when building a rifle. I personally think the AR 15 platform is ugly as sin with small rails. For the style of shooting I do a rifle length or longer was the only choice. I looked at the Daniel Defense rails and couldn't stomach the price of the rail for what I was getting. I also like a little girth on the front of a rifle so I installed a YHM Diamond rifle length rail with cap.

On this rail I have ergo covers as well as troy covers in FDE (sexiest color on earth!) and a Magpul AFG in FDE also.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/yhm.jpg

I use a DTI barrel and YHM low pro gas block. A DTI upper with ceracoated m16 bolt carrier in FDE. I had my lower laser engraved with a grenade at my friends shop. This grenade is my signature I add to all my guns.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/pmag.jpg

I am not a huge fan of red dot/holographic optics but for this gun decided to run an eotech 512. I actually enjoy it.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/eotech.jpg

For the lower I chose a Spikes basic lower. I run a rock river LPK. Magpul BAD lever (LOVE!) trigger guard, and ASAP sling mount.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/bad.jpg

I tried tons of grips and none work as well as the good ole ergo rubber grip.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/ergo.jpg

The rear sight is a Magpul MBUS like the front.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/mbusr.jpg

The stock is something I am not 100% on still. Right now its an FDE MOE stock. I have been tossing around the idea of a UBR or ACS please give me your opinions.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/moe.jpg

This is the total package, I promise a better picture later.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hizatch/weaponevo/gun.jpg

All in all I like the weight, works well for what I do and should help me with my training as move forward with my career. Its not bad with the piggies either :)
Let me know what you guys think. Thanks.

sangria7

9 August 2010, 11:31

The-S

9 August 2010, 18:38

Thanks, I was thinking the same thing.

dlee25

11 August 2010, 11:24

I love this set up. I also recently installed the YHM Spectre diamond rail on my Stag M4 upper and it's an excellent high value rail. As far as stocks, I'm totally sold on the Magpul CTR. Simple and solid and only a few bucks more than the MOE. Very nice rifle.

The-S

11 August 2010, 21:10

Thanks a lot buddy!! I will be trying out a UBR this week if I can find one local.

TCBA_Joe

16 August 2010, 18:04

Sorry I don't have all the sexy pictures some of you do...
This is my rifle. A lot of thought and research went into the configuration and it's setup.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/31502/2657044800058660536S600x600Q85.jpg

The base rifle is a DDM4. I chose DD due to their reputation as a top quality manufacturer. I liked their DDM4 due to the FSP style rail. I wanted to mount a light 12 O'Clock because of the advantages for barrier shooting as well as for the ease in light activation. I like the length of the rail as well. I've shot mainly carbine length weapons and the short rail just doesn't work for me.

I picked the UBR because I got to handle it when I was picking up my rifle and fell in love with it. It's super stable and I like how it allows consistent cheek weld. While heavy, I think it adds to the utility of the rifle and it balances well for me.

Went with the MOE because I'm not a fan of the A2 it came with, I had a gift certificate to Amazon so trying it was basically free.

I'll admit that I picked the x300 because I had it sitting around. But, It was perfect for this build so it was nice not having to buy another new light. It's small, light, bright, and has momentary and constant-on activation.

I picked the T-1 micro because of the lighter weight (just like Stick's OP, I'm not kidding myself that this is a light-weight build but every ounce counts). I went aimpoint due to simplicity of the controls and their ridiculous battery life and bomb-proofedness.

Got the magnifier so the optic can work for both short and medium range. It's a self-explanatory choice.

I got the Magpul RVG to replace the DD VFG that came with the rifle. I've tried the KAC, DD, and AVG and settled on the RVG. I found the DD VFG to be too long and bulky for my tastes. I picked up the RVG and found that it fit my hand better, than the DD and it was cheap, light, and strong.

I chose the rear MBUS because it's inexpensive and I have faith in Magpul, even using plastic for a BUS.

I got to try a BAD and the tac-latch on another rifle and was mildy impressed. Decided to spend money to run them a bit on this rifle and once I got out the the range became a full convert. I found using both items to be near instinctual for me. Going back and using a standard M4 convinced me of the utility of both items, especially the BAD.

The rail panels I already and and decided to stipple them myself.

Belloc

24 August 2010, 06:00

Canonshooter

25 August 2010, 16:05

The Sport Utility Rifles in my safe have always played second fiddle to my handguns. I have been a competitive handgunner for over 30 years, starting in Bullseye. Had a long dry stretch over the last 10 years or so but now I’m getting back into the IDPA game, which I have always enjoyed.

My rifles have been used occasionally in IDPA matches, but they are mostly safe queens in reserve as SHTF tools. Coming from an AWB state (NY) to New Hampshire, I have recently updated my BM M4gery with a slew of new parts. In fact, the only thing that remains of the original BM rifle is the stripped lower and the magazine latch. My goal was uber reliability in as compact, light weight package as possible.

The updated rifle now consists of the following;

BM lower - I already owned it

Geissele SSA Trigger - a good trigger is alway beneficial to accuracy

Ambidextrous Saftey Selector - I find this a useful feature

Mil-spec receiver extension - for maximum strength and duraility

H Buffer with CS Buffer Spring

Magpul CTR stock - light, comfortable and collapses to a short length for storage/transportation

Magpul MIAD - I like the looks and feel of the grip

Magpul Trigger Guard - I like the look and more room for gloved trigger finger

Troy Professional Grade Rifle Receiver Sling Adapter - to attach a single-point sling if needed. I prefer the side mount configuration and the fact that it installs over the staked castle nut.

Full BCM 14.5 inch mid-length upper with PWS FSC556 - 14.5 inches to keep the compact dimensions, mid length gas system for smoother operation and the FSC556 to minimize muzzle rise. BCM quality is outstanding.

BCMGUNFIGHTER Mod4 Charging Handle - easier charge handle manipulation

Larue LT-103 BUIS - I want to first try a fixed BUIS for its maximum durability

Aimpoint Comp3 - reasonably light and fast target acquisition, rugged and long battery life

Bobro 150 Aimpoint mount - for absolute co-witness through the fixed iron sights. It's a nice looking mount too.

G,G&G Sling Thing - I prefer a side mount sling up front

Blue Force Gear Vickers sling - good reviews and so far a quick-adjust 2-point sling has worked well for me

I have recently joined a club here in NH and I expect to become more active in IDPA pistol and carbine matches. I think the newly configured rifle will suit me well. The only possible changes may be Magpul MOE handguards, a folding Troy BUIS and a higher AP mount. For now, I'm sticking with absolute co-witness through the fixed irons.

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/ar-1c.jpg

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/ar-2c.jpg

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/ar-3c.jpg

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/ar-4c.jpg

Dos Cylindros

27 August 2010, 13:29

The final version of my build. This gun, which started life as my old patrol rifle is now relegated to home defense. It has gone through several variations and I have now settled on this final format.

Lower: Bushmaster, as I live in a ban state and it is registered to me and I don't have the ability to get another one without the bullet button. That being said, it in great condition, in spec and bushy for all their issues actually makes decent lowers.

Upper: BCM 16" middy with hamer forged barrel and BCM bolt carrier group. I selected this for it's hard use nature and long barrel life.

Rail: Knights Armament URX II rifle length rail. This was chosen because I really like the integrated flip up front sight with no tool elevation change and the fact that the lower half of the rail is removeable for cleaning under the rail.

Optic: Aimpoint T-1 in Larue mount. Chosen for light weight, durability and long battery life along with the mounts reputation for repeat zero when removed.

Muzzle brake: Knights Armament triple tap. This more than anything on this rifle was a purchase of the heart. It is expensive, but also effective. Low muzzle flip, not very loud on a 16" barrel and won't kick up debris when shooting front prone. Flash on a 16" barrel is also not much of an issue with quality ammo.

Light: surefire X300, chosen because it has good light output, is compact and operates the same as the X200 mounted on my duty handgun. I have a SR07 remote pressure switch on it's way for this light.

Furniture: Magpul CTR: chosen for light weight, Tango Down battle grip: chosen because I like it better than the magpul grips and it has a superior storage compartment in my opinion, Larue FUG VFG: Chosen because it is strong, has a QD feature and internal storage is just right for a spare T-1 battery packed in with the foam insert. KAC rail pannels: Chosen because they came with the rail. Magpul ASAP: I am a fan of the MS2 sling, and I really like this sling mount. A Magpul RSA will be going on as soon as it is released.

Future mods: The only thing I think this is lacking is an aimpoint magnifier in a larue flip to side mount. I will probably add on of these as soon as my wallet recovers.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/4N20/DSC_0155.jpg

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/4N20/DSC_0156.jpg

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m24shooter

28 August 2010, 15:05

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/m24shooter/100_2246.jpg

This A4 is basically just to see how close I can get with spare parts laying around. I was able to do that build today. I had a spare lower, upper, LPK, handguards, barrel, and pretty much everything else needed to build this up.
It will stay largely like this, although I will be switching the handguards out for a Knight's M5 RAS and the barrel will be replaced with a BCM20" GI.
I just wanted to do a basic GI rifle, and actually was going to go with the A2 upper and hanguards but I decided to go ahead and put optics on this one. I have a magnifier for the 512, so I'm using a YHM riser and the M5 RAS will let me move the 512 out far enough to use the magnifier and a Matech GI sight.
The lower is an LRB that I got from Rainier as part of the group buy. I used a basic LPK with stock trigger and the GI A2 pistol grip. The stock is likewise a GI A2. The upper is a spare BCM that I had from a previous build.
The barrel is one that somebody gave me when they had me replace it on their upper. It is a post-ban Bushy from back when they had all the FSB problems, and this one is canted. I didn't know that until I installed it this morning. Once I get the BCM barrel I'm junking it. As pretty much all the Bushmaster barrels, it is a 1:9" CL barrel. The handguards are GI A2.
I used the Matech GI rear sight to stay with the GI A4 clone idea. I used the 512 because I like the optic, and with the rifle size the bulk of it isn't going to be as much of an issue as it would with a smaller, lighter carbine. My intent is to use the magnifier with it once I put the M5 RAS on the rifle, so I put the 512 on a YHM riser to let it sit out a little farther to make room on the upper for the magnifier base and the Matech. I also wanted to use the riser because without it, there is a slight blurry edge along the top of the magnifier from the hood of the actual sight. It is annoying so I wanted to use the riser to help lift the sight enough to eliminate that. With the extra barrel length, I'll be able to use the magnifier for a longer range envelope.
Once I get the BCM GI barrel, I think I'll be pretty happy with my clone build.

Quib

28 August 2010, 16:25

Very nice build M24!

I wish I could say I have enough spares laying around to build a complete weapon!

m24shooter

28 August 2010, 16:44

Thanks Quib.
That barrel is horrible, and I'm going to have to get a replacement pretty soon. I can't imagine how much correction it will take to zero. It is exactly the horror story you hear about with Bushy barrels being indexed incorrectly.
I could do most of a carbine with what I have left, although I would need a few major components like an extension and BCG.

Stickman

30 August 2010, 08:23

Bowser,

I have a similar carbine, and its really a great setup. Are you going to pick up an optic down the road, or is this one staying with just irons?

Again, very nice carbine.

Bowser

30 August 2010, 13:30

Thanks. There will most definitely be optics in the near future. Most likely it will be a Comp M3 or an eotech EXPS3-0. I've been spending money on ammo and magazines lately. Also have been trying to find a good HK style hook'ed single point sling that has a strap that isn't too thin and too narrow to go onto the Magpul ASAP. There's also the VFG. I have a Tango Down vfg right now but it's stubborn and takes too much force to put on and pull off. I'm trying to find a cheapo KAC vfg or the GG&G version.

TehLlama

30 August 2010, 19:37

There's also the VFG.

I'd look into the DD RVG for the front grip; for the sling, Emdom GS, GearSector G2P (also check out their scout light mounts and sling mounts), or MagPul MS2
That's a beautiful looking blaster - need to post my M4RIS2 up - clone of yours (sans FSP), but with OPS Collar/FH, more fugly secondhand parts.

I'll likely be running an AFG or MVG on that rail, a 6V Scout light on Gear Sector offset (left side), DD Sling mount on the aft end of the rail (left side again). Torn between using my MS2, Gunslinger, or VCAS-QDP on it. Likewise on stock - I have a UBR and SOPMOD waiting. Optic will be a TR24G, or M4S Aimpoint.

sjohnny

8 September 2010, 10:23

I posted this back on page 17 but as of yesterday this build is "complete".

I finally have an AR15 layout to explain. This is my first AR and I built it piece by piece over the course of about a year. It's pretty simple, nothing really special in it.
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/keggius/LRBAR2.jpg
Once it's complete and I've trained with it and it has been demonstrated to be accurate and reliable (and I have an intimate familarity with it) it will replace my shotgun for bump in the night investigation. With that end in mind I decided to keep it pretty simple.
CTR stock - lightweight, stable, straightforward. At this point I don't really need to store anything. This one feels good.
MIAD grip - I played with a lot of grips and this one felt the best in my hand. I find the A2 grips to be way too small. I have a couple of foam ear plugs in the storage area.
LRB lower - this is the part that started the whole thing. I bought it from Ranier on the group buy.
Stag LPK - There wasn't much available when I was shopping for LPKs. I got this one from a dealer at a gun show: "$65 for that Stag thing or for only $15 more you can get the DPMS." "Guess I'll just go ahead and get the Stag."
BCM upper receiver - not much to say about an upper. Great fit and finish.
MOE Handguards - Budget was also a large concern on this rifle. I'm not ready to spend the money on a rail but wanted more flexibility than standard handguards. In all honesty I also just like the way these look. A rail may be in the distant future but I honestly don't know if one is necessary for my use.
Daniel Defense 16" barrel - I went back and forth on whether I wanted a 16" or a 14.5". I'm not ready to take the NFA plunge. I finally decided on the 16" basically because I didn't want to hassle with the permanently attached FH. BCM put these DD barrels on closeout (I assume because they switched to CHF). It was too good a deal to pass up. I don't believe my skill or experience is enough to be able to tell the difference.
A2 Flash Hider - Something cheap to stick on the end of the barrel.
The rear sight is a carry handle with the handle removed. This rifle will very likely someday have an optic on it but I plan on using irons for the time being until I can afford a good quality optic. I didn't see the need for sights that flip.

Currently the BCG that is in it is a M261 that a friend gave me. I'm hoping to have the money for the centerfire BCG later this summer. In the meantime I'll be using .22LR to get familiar with the platform.

I haven't fixed on a sling yet but I'm leaning toward a Gear Sector single point. Before this rifle takes over for the shotgun a TLR-1 will be mounted on it.

I think that's it.

I received the Rainier Thunderbolt BCG yesterday and put it in and put 4 test rounds through the rifle. It works! I was going back and forth between the Rainier and the BCM and I'll go ahead and admit that the Mt. Rainier emblem is what swayed me.
I went with the Gear Sector ASP sling and so far I'm liking it. It's my first foray into a single point sling. I chose it based on the reviews on this site.

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/keggius/LRBARdone.jpg
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tac40

18 September 2010, 18:27

Here's the Colt 6940, one piece upper monorail system with folding front sight. The carbine has been enhanced with Crane stock, VTAC sling, Magpul BUS, BCM charging handle mod 4, SF X300 light, Aimpoint M4 with Bobro mount and VFG.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/horseplay/AR%20Lock/Colt6940004.jpg

Keeping the Colt as a carbine vs weighting it down with stuff. The rail gives me alot to work with and the ability to add/remove gear for a specific assignment.

Hmac

19 September 2010, 06:32

Noveske matched upper/lower
Geissele SSA FCG
BAD ambi safety selector
Magpul trigger guard
(not shown) Magpul BAD lever
BCM BCG and bolt
BCM BFH 11.5 inch barrel
VLTOR low profile gas block
PWS FCS556 brake

DD Lite 9.0 rails
VLTOR iMod stock on VLTOR receiver extension
BCM H2 buffer
Sprinco Blue buffer spring
Noveske QD end plate
MOE grip
Noveske (Troy) front/rear flip-up BUIS
(not shown) Eotech G23-FTS magnifier
Aimpoint T-1 on Larue tall mount
BCM Gunfighter charging handle

Rainier did a great job installing (pinning) the gas block for me. I bought the DD Lite rail from them, shipped them the BCM barrel, they pinned the gas block, and like any competent gunsmith remembered to slip the DD barrel nut on first.

I have a PWS "Enhanced" buffer tube I tried to install, but it was out of spec and wouldn't screw into the receiver far enough. The thing is now in my junk box. So far the PWS FCS556 compensator is adequate regarding muzzle rise, but it's a very violent device from a noise/blast standpoint - requires a pair of Surefire Ear Pros under my Impact Sports. I want to take more time to compare before throwing IT in the junk box too, but so far the Battle Comp I have on my Noveske Light Recce is a vastly superior device.

http://www.pbase.com/hmac/image/128339810.jpg

eldogg

20 September 2010, 18:45

heres one i've been working on for a while...7.62X39 PISTON SYSTEM

DPMS 7.62X39 UPPER
AERO LOWER~ hard to beat for quality and price
MAGPUL CTR AND MOE GRIP~ i like the feel of them and they are on the others.
VLTOR extension
JT lower set w/WOLFE POWER SPRING~ for russian primers
ADAMS ARMS EXTENDED CARBINE RAIL~ wanted hand guards longer than carbine
ADAMS ARMS CARBINE PISTON SYSTEM~ mainly because of dirty russian ammo and the challenge!
DD FIXED SITES
RAINIER ARMS XTC( bored out ) didn't like it on my 556, works great on this!
MGI BOLT AND FIRING PIN~ the DPMS would not eject reliably and russian ammo has deep primer pockets
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g258/eldogg/AA762x39003.jpg

i built this for several reasons, 1, i wanted an AR with a little more punch that is cheaper than a 6.8. 2, i have cases and cases of russian 7.62x39, so it will be cheap to shoot. 3, i like the Adams Arms piston system. russian ammo is very dirty. i did have a few problems with the ejector, primer strikes, and failure to feed. i had to open the gas port up and change out the bolt and firing pin. now it feeds smooth. this creature is fun to shoot.

Mega

20 September 2010, 18:59

A few updated photos of my precision rifle...

The upper is a LaRue Tactical 'Stealth' with the 18" ion-bond barrel and 13.2" quad rails.
The lower is a LaRue billet housing with a 3# Timney trigger, an LMT charging handle, and a Phase 5 Tactical EBRv2 extended bolt release.
Retention pins are by KNS and the bipod is by Harris.
Optic is a Mueller 8.5-25x44AO tactical mildot on a LaRue SPR-E QD mount.
Sling is a padded LaRue and is of the VTAC design with modifications by the owner.

http://www.mdshooters.com/gallery/files/4/4/4/1/9.jpg

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Vise

1 October 2010, 12:48

When I started putting this gun together I wanted to build a weapon that would be a reasonable choice in almost any combat environment. I am talking about the proverbial "general purpose rifle." I have seen many different takes on this build but I am convinced that mine suits me and my fighting style best. Because this is the rifle that I would go to during a crisis I used top end parts and splurged in a few places others would have chosen to save. Aesthetics were very important to my decision making process. I hope you enjoy the pictures.

LWRC M6 A2 16” Piston Driven Assault Rifle
After doing a significant amount of research and talking with several owners I decided that LWRC was the company for me. They make a very robust and reliable rifle. I am also a fan of the piston driven system. Less cleaning, fewer jams, and less blowback when running suppressed. Because this rifle needs to be effective at a range of 0-500 yards, I went with the 16” barrel.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/smithn59/Guns/DSC04199.jpg

Vortex Flash Hider
The vortex does its intended job perfectly. It looks cool. It fits in my Gemtech Halo suppressor. I am very happy with this product.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/smithn59/Guns/DSC04200.jpg

Surefire Scout Mini on Gear Sector Mount
I chose this light because it is very bright and very lightweight. The weight of this rifle began to add up quickly and I needed to save where I could. The Gear Sector mount is low profile and easy to install. I think the mount is probably overpriced but it is top quality.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/smithn59/Guns/DSC04204.jpg

Magpul XTM panels
Lets be honest, Magpul gear looks awesome. They have figured out how to add functionality and make your weapon look even cooler. I am a big fan.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/smithn59/Guns/DSC04201.jpg

Magpul AFG
Great product, I used a vertical grip for a while but this is more comfortable and does not get hung up on obstacles.

Redi-mag
Having an extra magazine on the weapon makes reloading faster. I also like having a second magazine on the gun in case I need to grab and go. If I don’t have time to get all my gear on I still know that I have 60 rounds at my disposal to handle immediate threats. I used a dremmel and a drill to cut away some of the extra material instead of buying the Redi-mod version.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/smithn59/Guns/DSC04207.jpg

Magpul BAD lever
Once you’ve used one it’s impossible to go back to shooting without it. It makes everything from magazine changes to clearing a double feed much easier.

Geissele SSA Trigger
This trigger has a lighter pull and helps me when I am shooting longer distances. I have been very happy with it so far.

Magpul UBR Stock
The weapon needed the extra weight on the rear to balance out. The UBR is an amazing stock. The pull is smooth, it locks tightly in place, and it looks great on the weapon.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/smithn59/Guns/DSC04206.jpg

Aimpoint Comp M4s with Roll in 3x Magnification
These are both mounted on Larue tactical quick disconnect mounts. I wanted a little help when shooting at range but I didn’t like the idea of having magnification at close range. This combo solves that problem. There is a little extra weight associated with the roll in, but if I know I am not going to use it for the day it pops right off. The magnification helps me a lot when I am shooting 300+ yards.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/smithn59/Guns/DSC04208.jpg

PRI Gas Buster Charging Handle
I looked at the BCM Gunfighter and the PRI and decided that the PRI would work best on this rifle. When running suppressed even with the piston system there is still some blowback. The PRI handles this well.

Spikes ST-T2 Heavy Buffer
Does it help? I don’t notice a difference. Does it look badass? Yes. Is it worth 30 bucks? I thought so.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/smithn59/Guns/DSC04205.jpg
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Stickman

1 October 2010, 14:50

Vise,

Nice pics and info, thanks.

oregonshooter

5 October 2010, 21:17

http://oregonshooter.com/share/DSC03014.JPG
Sorry for the crap photo.

This is my only AR15. I built it to be my primary SHTF gun and although it has gone through several variations during my learning curve, I think it is done.

The upper is an LMT 16" M4 style which I got in a trade for my Vector AK. LMT and Bravo are synonymous with quality and are the "Glocks" of factory guns IMO. Since it was going to be my only AR for some time, I went with the proven M4 profile and stayed with the birdcage just because it seems to work as well as anything and does not RING when I shoot. How anyone can stand a tuning fork on their gun is beyond me.

MPI bolt group has been "Micro Slicked" and I added a Gunfighter low profile CH. I tried the larger one first, but it got hung on my chest harness all the time.

The lower I built with an AGPArms lower and RRA LPK. I like the SS mil trigger and outside of changing the trigger spring to a yellow JP (hammer spring is still stock) it is stock. I've got a few "k" down the pipe and the trigger is nice and smooth to me. I just can't see spending hundreds of dollars more on a trigger for a gun that is designed for 0-200 yards.

The optic (Aimpoint T1) is another proven addition that keeps the gun light and fast for QCB 0-50yard engagements. I was tempted to get an ACOG 4X Dohnut for more range, but decided the T1 filled the gun's intended purpose better.

I had the Magpul MOE stock at first, thinking "a stock is a stock", then tried my buddies SOPMOD and knew it was the one! The cheek weld on these are just perfect to me. The stock is tough and even withstood my mortaring it 4 times at a bad angle. I did manage to break the support piece were the sling QD is (this was an older none QD version) but LMT replaced it with a new version FREE when I told them what I did and that I needed a replacement for a Super Dave class in less than a week, they let the stocks pass in the mail. A+++ service from LMT! I keep (4) CR123 batts in the stock along with a Streamlight Microstream AAA light that I keep green hi-temp tape over for night use.

The Knight Armament VDG is one I got cheap and cut down to stubby length on the lathe. I like this size and use it as hand stop mostly but I do find opportunities to brace the weapon or change elevation slightly with a VDG so I'm glad I gave them a chance as I was opposed to them at first. There is enough space in there to store a cut down larue wrench, allens, and sm. tube of locktight.

The rail started life as a DD 12 FSB which I had a TLR-1 mounted in front of the FSB, but I latter cut it down to 7" and went with the SF 6P / Malkoff M61 setup in a VTAC mount that you see in the photo. The TLR-1 just wasn't tough enough for me and I find the simple momentary setup less prone to light ADs and being able to lockout the tailcap is a nice addition.

I started with a Larue BUIS behind the T1 (which is true co-wit) but took it off and went to the Matech (got in a trade) because the T1 is just so reliable if it ever does fail I will either ghost ring the whole T1 tube or have time to flip a rear sight up. The biggest reason is that having a folded BUIS gives better FOV in poor lighting conditions.

The sling I use is a VTAC that attaches to the rear of the rail with the inset PB setup and I have a short sewn piece attached to the SOPMOD that uses a COBRA QD buckle. I really like the adjustment options the VTAC (padded) gives that other slings I've tried do not.

The MAID grip fills my larger hands perfectly and I dig the option of an extra bolt, FP, and retaining pin storage it has.

I Cerakoted the whole gun in Dessert Sand, piece by piece then assembled and applied the camo you see. I haven't done extensive testing in my AO with that camo yet, but I think it will work out well.

The gun plain runs. 1500 rounds of WOlf 62gr at Dave's class was it's first real test and while others had their guns dying on M193 they could not believe that my gun was running Wolf without issue.

Buy once, cry once is my motto and it seems that it applies to AR15s, go figure?!

BC98

8 October 2010, 22:29

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This is my first SBR and is intended as a training rifle, home defense gun, and general fun range toy. I recently moved to Minnesota from Michigan and this was the first rifle I built after the move. I'm just a civvie who likes shooting so these choices are mainly just for my own preferences.

Upper: BCM 12.5” Kino
After moving out of MI, I was anxious to put together my first SBR. Based on a lot of reading I had done, I chose the 12.5” barrel length for the additional velocity/frag distance that it allowed the 5.56mm cartridge. For me, the 1:7 twist was required as I reload and intended to do a lot of experimentation with heavier loads for this rifle. I picked the Kino configuration for two reasons: (1) I have long arms and being able to run mid-length handguards allowed me to push my support hand farther out towards the muzzle. And (2) I intended this rifle to be as simple as possible so I opted to include a fixed front sight base in the build. MN is a non-suppressor state so I don’t have to worry about clearance issues with the FSB.

Barrel: BCM standard mil-spec
Mainly because there was no BFH version available. Had the hammer forged version been available, I would have picked it up for additional peace of mind of additional longevity the process is supposed to deliver. Currently have an A2 flash hider but I might try a BattleComp 1.0 later one because of the good reviews that I’ve read.

Bolt Carrier Group/Charge handle: BCM standard mil-spec
Picked these up as part of the package deal that Bravo Company offers when you purchase an upper. It saved me a little cash and I’ve never had an issue with a USGI charge handle to this point. I plan on re-evaluating once I am able to run this gun in a course. If it bugs me, then I’ll replace it with a Gunfighter from Bravo.

Handguards: Magpul MOE mid-length
Originally started with a standard handguard from Rock River and decided that I didn’t like the feel. Decided to try the MOE out because it was low-priced, I didn’t feel that I needed a free-floated barrel, and I could place rail sections where I wanted. I added the MVG because it was a direct fit to the handguard and (again) it was a cheap alternative to a TangoDown or similar grip.

BUIS and Optic: Daniel Defense A1.5 & Primary Arms M3 clone
The DD A1.5 sight was chosen in the theme of simplicity. I picked up the Primary Arms RDS because I wasn’t sure how well it would work for me so I didn’t want to blow a lot of money until I ran something similar. I do like it so I’ll either pick up an ML3 or a T1/H1 from Aimpoint. I will be picking up QD mount for it, though. I’m still not sold on the idea of a fixed rear sight as the sight picture still feels “busy” to me. Might replace it with a Troy later on. I’ve got a Millet DMS that I plan on putting in a QD mount to see if I would like it on this gun as well.

Light: Cheap Blackhawk LED in a scope ring (not shown)
It’ll work in a pinch. Picked up the Blackhawk light on clearance plus I get a discount as an ATK employee. Still working on the illumination area, though. I mounted the above combo onto the cantilever rail from an MOE illumination kit. I don’t like where the tailcap sits in relation to my hand plus the combo is heavy so I’ll be replacing it later. The likely candidates are a TLR-1 or an X300 because they’re small.
Lower: I picked up the Spike’s Tactical lower because it was fairly cheap at the time. Honestly, I also picked Spike’s because I could get the Punisher laser engraving (I like the comic). I installed a CMT lower parts kit because I found one at a good price and they had positive reviews.

Trigger Guard: Magpul Enhanced Trigger Guard
I liked the looks of the Magpul trigger guards plus I will wear gloves when I shoot sometimes. I wanted to try the aluminum version just to see if it was any different than the MOE version that I have an my other rifle (really not much difference). I also liked that it filled the gap in front of the grip.

Grip: Magpul MOE
I’ve got fairly large hands and this seems to fit right. I couldn’t justify the price of the MIAD knowing that I would only use part of the kit so I rolled the dice on this version and it worked out well. I couldn’t stand the A2 grip and had a couple extra that I used for stippling practice. I like how they feel so I plan on doing the same to the MOE grip

Buttstock: VLTOR Carbine Modstock
I originally had a USGI M4 stock but didn’t like the looseness of the stock and the fact that it pulled my whiskers when I shot. I got the VLTOR for the storage compartments and improved cheekweld and it was on clearance at Bravo Company at the time. I’m running a Spikes T2 buffer but will probably try the VLTOR A5 stock system later on to see how it changes the feel of the rifle.

Sling: Undecided (not shown)
I put together a single-point and two-point from some webbing and plastic hardware that I picked up. The single-point is similar to the PIG slider and the two-point is a pretty blatant copy of the GS-2P from Gear Sector. Before anyone says anything, I will NOT be selling either of these and plan on purchasing whichever version I like and then disassembling the prototypes. I don’t yet know where on the carbine I’ll mount the sling ends.

Future upgrades:
VLTOR A5 stock kit
Aimpoint RDS w/ QD mount & QD mount for Millett scope
Folding BUIS?
Carbine light
Sling/sling mounts
Painting the gun

CLICKBANGBANG

9 October 2010, 11:46

I'm new so I'll post on my favorite AR-15 to introduce myself. This is my second AR I built off a Spikes lower. It started out as a DPMS M4 upper, A2 stocked with a detachable carry handle. RRA LPK. It ate just over a thousand rounds like this at range days and a jackrabbit shoot or two. This is where BRD took over my wallet. Sorry for the bad pics. I'm a better shot with the gun than the camera.

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The obvious things I'll leave out to keep this from being too boring. Under all the tacticool crap there are some things that make this gun my favorite. Best parts of the whole gun are the ones I was able to pick up used and at great prices. Like the Aimpoint ML2 and Larue LT-150 for $380 shipped. They were nearly spotless when I got them. The M951XM07 was bought lightly used for $100 shipped and the lamp was changed out for a Malkoff M61. The trigger was also sent off to Bill Springfield for some work. $35 and the bang switch feels much better now. Opted for the Magpul MOE vs a railed handguard to save a buck. Another item worth mentioning is the MOUNT-N-SLOT Sling QD on the handguard. Works great for what I needed for this set up.

After a 600 round weekend carbine corse and another 2k of ammo dumped at the range, I think the gun is finished. I may opt for a mil spec bolt assembly later. I do like the ACS to carry all my junk in. Batteries, small bolt of slip EWL, lost parts kit, earplugs, and more.

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dlee25

19 October 2010, 13:33

My M4. Recently had a YHM Spectre length rail added. I have my Eotech 512 on the excellent LaRue LT-110. Now I have the option of a magnifier if I ever pick one up. The rear BUIS is a GG&G A2 while the front is an MI flip up with the HK style hood. The rifle also has Magpul furniture, the CTR, MOE grip and rail covers. I also added the Weaver vertical foregrip. I'm pleasantly surprised with this. It's quite comfortable holding it Magpul style and versital since it comes with two size. I prefer the stubby. It also mounts using two hex head screws. Pretty solid for me. Although you can't see it in the pic, I have a Noveske end plate with the mount for a QD swivel. The rifle is pretty light and easy to handle especially with a one point sling. The only thing I would like to add eventually is a Bravo Co. Gunfighter.
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Quib

22 October 2010, 17:21

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Well, after months of debate I finally opted today to do some upgrading to my carbine. Here are the upgrades and the basis for my decisions:

- R&R’d The A2 Pistol Grip For The MAGPUL MAID Grip

I’ve had my grubby lil’ hands wrapped around the A1 grip since 1985, and the A2 grip since 1988, and have long ago become accustomed to the feel of each. But after reading input from other shooters who made the switch to the MIAD, I thought I’d give it a try. So far I’m pretty impressed and glad I made the switch. For starters, I like the texture of the MIAD and this is a big plus in my book, where with the GI A2 I added grip tape for a more solid non-slip grasp.

I’m not a very tall guy (Mil-Spec Monkey and I could probably literally see “eye to eye”) and I thought the MIAD grip might be too large for my smaller hands. After playing around with the assortment of interchangeable panels, I settled on the familiar feel of the F2 front panel with its A2 style finger groove. For the rear of the MIAD, I decided on the Medium B2 panel. Here, insertion of the B1 rear panel reminded me real quick, just how thin the A2 grip really was because this panel felt very similar to the grasp of the GI A2 grip. The B3 panel was simply too large and as stated above, I quickly settled on the B2.

-R&R’d The Standard GI Trigger Guard For The MAGPUL MOE Polymer Trigger Guard

I have no quarrels with the standard GI trigger guard, and although my winter shooting with gloved hands ended when I ETS’d from the Army, I figured since I was going with the MIAD grip, why not get the MAGPUL trigger guard to round things out.

- R&R’d The 6-POS Collapsible Stock For The MAGPUL MOE Stock

I previously owned a carbine with LMT SOPMOD stock, and really enjoyed the texture of the rubber butt pad, and the cheek weld offered by the increased surface area. Unfortunately I can not afford to purchase another SOPMOD stock at this time. This is where the MAGPUL MOE stock looked appealing. With its rubber butt pad and sloped design, I felt it might be a good substitute for the SOPMOD. So far I’m pleased with how the weapon shoulders and look forward to hitting the range here soon to see exactly how the stock will feel.

So you guys are probably thinking to yourselves that it’s about time I got with the program and found out for myself what these MAGPUL components were all about. Well, I guess I just get stuck in my old ways, and when I get accustomed to something, like the GI A2 grip, or the GI 6-pos stock, it just takes a lot to get me to change my ways. [BD]

veeklog

24 October 2010, 17:03

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This is my favorite rifle setup so far; Dane Armory lower with DPMS internals and JP trigger springs, Colt 14.5 barrel with pinned YHM Phantom flash-hider, Denny M-4 upper, LMT BCG, Magpul CTR, Magpul MIAD, and Eotech 552 on Larue mount.

I like this setup so much I made another rifle just like this one except with Fulton Armory lower, Magpul MOE , and Magpul VFG. Sorry for the crappy cell phone picture

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Lancelot

25 October 2010, 16:59

So far its working out well. The sling mount is the Colt mount and I got it from PK firearms. The cheapest price I found around $29 and they were in stock.... The MI mount I got from Bravo Company.

I do not like the ring the light is in. Its a cheap scope ring I got from Wally World. It works fine, but its bulky. I'm thinking of trying one of the Vltor rings or something similar.

The swivel clears the light and ring as it sits. The ring is in like the second slot back on the rail. If you pushed it back any further, with the sling the way it is, the two will bump into each other. A lower profile ring would probably fix that. I have tried an M3, and similar lights like the TLR1 on the rail. They work fine. They don't work fine on the side with the sling.

I shoot with either my thumb up, or my forefinger pointing along the hand guards pointing forward. As such I can reach the switch on the light. If I put a light like the M3 on the other side, I can reach it with my index finger as it wraps around and under the handguards.

Now, it does add some weight to the muzzle. Its not much and I don't notice it much. I have had people tell me that they needed a generous amount of loctite to hold the MI mount in place. On one forum it was suggested that you should use red loctite if you shoot the gun a lot, or run it until its hot. I haven't shot it that hard yet. But I do have a little blue loctite on it.

Another option is to ditch the Colt style swivel and use the UWL sling mount from Blue Force Gear. Get the short length for this application. And be prepared to do some fidgiting to get the UWL on . Once its on its works well and under the FSB won't interfere with anything.

So I like it. Again the standard handguards are a necessity for my work car / gun rack. As a result all of this is a series of compromises. They are inexpensive changes, and can be made to issue guns without getting in trouble with your armorer. If Magpul made the MOE handguards for a midlength it would solve a lot of my issues.

Updated pic with sling removed for clarity.

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Well I can't post pictures, but I've made some changes.

1) The round hand guards are gone and the Magpul Mid-length hand guards are in place.
2) The Surefire G2 in the ring is gone, and a Surefire M600C Scout Light is in place. (Same place on the rail.)

The guys at Mont-N-Slot tell me that they have a better mounting solution for the Scout on the MOE, we'll soon see.

I'm still optics poor, but the light change.... what a difference! And the gun has held up very well.

Wallace

26 October 2010, 10:20

MGM GTR 001. Build by Wallace

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Mega GTR lower
Mega Tactical trigger
Gold selector
A2 Stock
ASA side charger
Young BCG
Saber D, 24" SS 1/8
Leopold L

A pure bench rest tack driver for varmint and range fun.

The-S

26 October 2010, 10:47

I LOVE IT

except the stock :(

Quentin

29 October 2010, 15:03

MY Rifle: Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Something Blue
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I hadn’t fired an AR style rifle since 1968 in Vietnam but with the results of the 2008 election felt it was time to get back in the loop and buy one. A friend was in the same boat and bought whatever he could find off the rack which happened to be a Carbon-15 for $1000. As little as I knew I wouldn’t have done any better at the time. Instead, the scarcity of ARs and high prices diverted me to months of research and sorting it all out - not a bad thing. WEVO and other websites really helped me out - thanks!!!

By the summer of 2009 after months of empty shelves at local gun shops and hearing of 9-month backorders I feared that I might not be able to buy an AR so bought a stripped S&W M&P-15 lower that I stumbled across so I’d at least have the controlled part. I also found a Del-Ton LPK and BCM receiver extension/M4 Gen 2 stock kit with H-buffer.

A few months later I bought an ArmaLite 16” midlength upper because of its midlength gas system and 1:9 twist barrel since I knew 99% of the ammo I’d be shooting would be around 55gr. Also a local shop was clearing out this upper at a good price and threw in the $45 gas block sight. (Later I did replace its bolt carrier group with a Daniel Defense M16 BCG to correct deficiencies of the ArmaLite BCG and to have a spare.) No upgrades to the standard handguards as they work well for my application. I just want a basic AR that is reliable.

I bought a used milspec carry handle and replaced the front sight post with a Bushmaster 0.04” taller post to clear up a zeroing problem then got another milspec carry handle and cut it down to expose 4” of top rail for an optic. I dabbled with cheap RDS optics until I found the Bushnell TRS-25 which provides a 1/3 cowitness using YHM risers. This RDS is cheap but I haven’t experienced any problems and could tell immediately if it drifted off zero due to the cowitness. The carry handles are reindexed for IBZ, RIBZ and standard BZ zeros.

Earlier this month I bought an ArmaLite stripped lower and built it up with an ArmaLite single stage LPK and another BCM RE/M4 Gen 2 stock kit. I moved the ArmaLite upper to this lower and plan to buy a BCM 16” LW midlength upper for the M&P-15 lower. I picked up another used milspec carry handle and have cut it down for the rear sight.

The rifle functions very well and I am confident with it. I’m looking forward to finishing the second one during the holidays if possible. Very curious to compare the BCM’s 1:7 twist with 55gr and heavier ammo. This has been a very rewarding experience and I’m much happier with a custom built AR instead of a Bushmaster bought off the rack.

Lower Receiver:
ArmaLite M15 Stripped Lower
ArmaLite Single Stage Lower Parts Kit
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer

Upper Receiver:
ArmaLite U15A4CB Midlength Upper Receiver
Wilson Arms 16” HBAR Barrel (included above)
Daniel Defense M16 Bolt Carrier Group

Sights/Optics/Mounts:
ArmaLite E20151 Railed Gas Block Sight
Colt A4 Cut Carry Handle (Anchor Harvey)
Colt A4 Carry Handle (Cardinal Forge)
Bushmaster 0.04” taller front sight post
Yankee Hill Machine Co. 4”x½” Rail Riser (YHM-9595)
Yankee Hill Machine Co. 1.3”x½” Mini Riser (YHM-226) x2 (to mount a scope)
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 1x25mm Red Dot Sight

Miscellaneous:
CQB Solutions 3-Point Tactical Sling
Colt and other USGI 20/30rd Magazines
MagPul PMAG 20/30rd Magazines

Lower Receiver #2:
Smith&Wesson Model M&P-15 Stripped Lower
Del-Ton Lower Parts Kit
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer
Planned Upper: BCM LW 16” midlength

Here's the complete ArmaLite lower:
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Lancelot

29 October 2010, 17:18

My 16" BCM mid-length working gun. Updated with MOE handguards, and a Surefire Scout Light on the MI rail.

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Same gun showing how the Scout Light and side sling adapter work together.

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Lancelot

30 October 2010, 12:04

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Cameron

31 October 2010, 19:52

I suppose it is appropriate that on Weapon Evolution, my weapons have evolved. Here again, are my updated take on some of the US military small arms. I didn't want retro replicas of the MK12, Recce, M4 and MK18, instead I wanted a usable modern version for me and mine. It was really important to me to have a common feel, with stocks, grips, and rails and that they all must have an identical cheek weld. I have used and replaced inferior optics, stocks, grips, slings, and these are the items I have used and abused and have confidence in. The capability of an AR15 is determined by the optic and barrel, and these five are examples of the optic and barrel combinations to fulfill a role.

Bravo Company MK12

Bravo Company Manufacturing in house upper - BCM Mk 12 Mod 3X-Bravo (DD14) (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-SPR-Mk-12-Mod-Bravo3X-p/bcm-urg-mk12-3x%20dd14.htm)
BCM 18” SS410 Ion Bond DLC Stainless Steel 1 in 8” twist barrel 5.56 USMC SAM-R chamber A2 Flash Hider
Rifle Length gas system H3 buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 14.0 Lite rail
Leupold MK4 4.5-14x50mm Tactical Milling Reticle Larue SPR QD mount
BCM/Troy back up iron sights
Harris Ultra Light Bipod

Bravo Company Manufacturing lower receiver
LMT 2 stage match trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MOE grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Vickers Combat Applications padded two point sling

This take on the SPR is excellent, the Bravo Company upper is extremely well made and the BCM SS410 Ion Bond barrel is a true sub MOA tack driver, I recently shot two back to back groups at 200 yards that measured less than an inch. It might have a Leupold MK4 3.5-10x40mm in the near future.

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Daniel Defense Recce

Daniel Defense in house upper - DD SPR Mid Length Complete Upper Receiver Group (http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=94)
Lothar Walther LW50 Stainless Steel 1 in 7” twist barrel 5.56 Wylde chamber A2 Flash Hider
Mid Length gas system H2 buffer
Daniel Defense hand matched bolt and bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Leupold MK4 1.5-5x20mm Special Purpose Reticle Larue SPR QD mount
Troy back up iron sights

Daniel Defense lower receiver
LMT 2 stage match trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Vickers Combat Applications two point sling

Probably the most versatile AR I own, my modern take on the SEAL Recce rifle is capable of red dot optic speed at close range yet will make good hits out past 600 yards. Doubles as my 3 Gun rifle. The LW50 barrel is sub MOA capable. The SEALs knew what they were doing with the 16" Recce.

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Colt General Purpose Carbine

Colt/LMT Upper
Colt 6721 16” Heavy 1 in 9” twist barrel 5.56 NATO chamber A2 Flash Hider Carbine Length gas system with H2 buffer
LMT bolt and bolt carrier group
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
EOTech 552
Troy back up iron sights
Surefire G2 in Viking Tactics mount

Lewis Machine & Tool lower receiver
LMT single stage mil spec trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MOE grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul AFG
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
Blue Force Gear Vicker's Combat Applications sling

This carbine was to be a "beater" high round count, general purpose rifle that I wouldn't mind using for "hard use" shooting with a more flexible twist rate to take advantage of the cheapest ammo that may be available, so I went with a complete upper from a Colt AR6721. Great for a loaner or the new shooter.

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Bravo Company M4

Bravo Company Manufacturing in house upper - BCM Standard 14.5" Mid Length (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-14-5-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-mid-14%20ddl12.htm)
BCM standard 14.5” 1 in 7” twist barrel chrome lined 5.56 NATO chamber PWS FSC556 tactical compensator
Mid Length gas system H2 buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Aimpoint T1 Micro Larue QD mount
BCM/Troy back up iron sights
Magpul MOE vertical fore grip

Bravo Company Manufacturing lower receiver
BCM single stage mil spec trigger
Magpul CTR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Vickers Combat Applications padded two point sling

I discussed this one with Paul Buffoni the owner of Bravo Company it was my desire to put together a light weight, very soft shooting carbine that was simple and rugged for my wife. He led me to the excellent 14.5" barrel mid length gas system upper, with the very effective PWS compensator. This is an amazing fighting carbine, that could replace the 16" barrel mid length as the "sweet spot" in the AR15.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1058/5142027050_75c6fe93d3_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1188/5141448281_00d8f9605e_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/5142048552_42f219639b_b.jpg

Lewis Machine & Tool MK18

Lewis Machine & Tool custom upper - LMT 10.5" Upper Receiver Assembly (http://www.lmtstore.com/upper-receiver-assemblies-parts/105-upper-receiver-assembly-with-flash-suppressor.html)
LMT 10.5” 1 in 7” twist barrel chrome lined 5.56 NATO chamber Noveske KX3 flash hider
Carbine Length gas system H buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 10.0 Lite rail
EOTech XPS Larue QD mount
Troy back up iron sights
Surefire X300 weapon light
Magpul Angled fore grip

Lewis Machine & Tool lower receiver
LMT single stage mil spec trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Blue Force Gear UDC padded single point sling

There is just something about a short assault rifle with a red dot and a white light. This is my home defense carbine, 100% reliable and MOA accurate it is extremely fast and easy to make hits from bad breath distances to 300 yards. I see a sound suppressor in it's future.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5142025332_3a6f84d5b2_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1181/5141447797_5e0544f6b3_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1419/5141444365_930e2a151b_b.jpg

Cameron

Stickman

31 October 2010, 22:11

Great stuff Cameron.

Vise

1 November 2010, 21:09

Cameron,
Awesome gear there.

TehLlama

1 November 2010, 23:16

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5128867577_1e7aaab037_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5129469958_62762bcd06_z.jpg

My wife's rifle is a low budget clone of exactly this.
H1 instead of the larger Aimpoint
VTAC/Surefire V4 light on VLTOR mount instead of the X600
And it wears an EMOD, but is otherwise orthodox church of Magpul.

This layout is really effective, very affordable, and I think epitomizes the post-GWOT capable KISS style rifle the best - A simple lightweight light, a rugged red dot sight, simple BUIS, adjustable 2pt sling, and some MagPul to round it out.

Lancelot

11 November 2010, 12:00

I'd hate to admit what I paid for that Scout light. It was a steal. And if I could, I'd drop the XD and put on a T1.

TehLlama

11 November 2010, 14:12

Well, I do, without a doubt, like that format.

http://oi52.tinypic.com/k4f192.jpg

This will very likely switch from the MI Light rail/VLTOR Scount mount to a MOE Handguard and the IWC Offset Scout mount (from top mount).

kaptain86

11 November 2010, 16:34

Bought my first AR platform this year, only put about 500 rounds through it so far.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/5143102431_6fbf01b966_b.jpg

Rock River Arms AR-15 Elite Comp

Here's the spec list from the stock setup

http://www.rockriverarms.com/images/products/elicomp10.gif

I added a badger charging handle and star ambi safety. I recently added the Magpul MS-2 sling with the ASAP sling attachment.

The optic is a cheapo NCstar, might need to update that sometime soon.

I really like the ergo hand grip and the RRA stock has a nice cheek well to it.

saito614

14 November 2010, 20:03

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa36/scarramanga78/IMG_20101114_202954.jpg

This is my 16" LMT piston AR. Pretty much stock just a few upgrades:

- My old Aimpoint ML2/ QRP mount with a new FDE rubber cover and lens covers
- Tango Full VFG( hands are too big for stubby eve with a high grip)
- Magpul back up sights
-Magpul ASAP (Not in pic)

The MRP/ piston combo is somewhat heavier than some of the M4/AR's ive shot but i spent 7 months lugging around a M14 so i dont mind it much. Im trying to keep the accessories to a minimum and go all polymer as much as possible.
So far everything about piston guns is true with this one. I put 600 A/E 5.56 55gr. through it in PMAGs with no hicups. Cleand it with a canopy wipe and some CLP in 2 min. At 100yds i couldnt notice any accuracy difference but a Army buddy who is a much better shot than me said there is some minor drop off in grouping from DI guns 200yds+( outside of my scope of responsibility)

One thing i would like to mention is that i bought a Magpul B.A.D leaver a few weeks ago and it caused the BCG to drag severely.
The MRP dosent have a cutout for the charging paddle and the B.A.D was a too thick- Tried it file off a mm off the B.A.D lever but it would still drag 2 out of 3 cycles so i gave it to a buddy. Guess this is a common hit or miss thing for the lever and different uppers.

smoothdraw

16 November 2010, 16:54

The purpose of this rifle is for 3-gun. I just built it 3 weeks ago for Area 6 multigun championship.

Noveske 18" 5.56 Rogue Hunter - Upper
Noveske 18 inch stainless barrel with intermediate gas - to meet power factor, balance the softness of shooting and maneuverability, and get the accuracy of noveske SS barrel.
SJC Titan brake - The best brake in the industry for pure recoil control
Troy 13" extreme Battle rail - small tubular, easy to hold and point, very light
Noveske Bolt - I don't find anything wrong with this automatic well staked bolt by Noveske.
BCM Mod 3 charging handle - very easy to rack with one hand.

Noveske N4 - lower
Geisselle S3G trigger - designed for 3-gun. Very smooth 1 stage trigger. quick reset for faster follow-up shots.
Vltor Emod A5 Stock - A5 is designed for intermediate gas system. It has longer receiver extension, rifle action spring and A5 buffer. This is softer shooting than Carbine stock receiver kits. Emod because I already have it and it is a decent stock that balances the 18" barrel well.

Optics
Tijicon Accupoint TR-24R. Good value, simple reticle, decent glass. No battery to worry. Always on. With Cat Tail to easily adjust the magnification.
Larue SPR-E mount - Larue makes the best optics mount in the industry. Solid 1 piece QD mount. Secure and can return back to zero if you remove it and put it back on.
No BUIS on this rifle because this is a game and hunting gun not my tactical/defense weapon.

I do not have multi-purpose rifles anymore. I sold all of my 'multipurpose" rifles and now only have 2, my game rifle and defense rifle.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/nokiarnp/DSC_2966.jpg

Here's my service/tactical rifle.

Noveske N4 14.5" Lo-Pro - upper
14.5" N4 barrel with carbine gas - short, very light, easy to point and shoot. Also designed for heavy use with it's special layered chrome lining.
SWS quadrail - thin, light, built in QD ports for sling attachment, non-rotational design and solid construction.
Troy BUIS - These are amongs the simplest, more reliable foldable iron sights.
FCS556 Brake - decent balance of recoil reduction and flash suppression. Pinned so that ATF compliant. Also barely affects my fellow shooters when practicing. Loud but not so loud.
PRI gas busting charging handle - I shoot this rifle alot in trainings so i do not like so much gas coming back at me.

Optics.
Trijicon accupoin TR24 - shared. - My scope is always mounted in this defense gun unless i go to 3-gun matches then this scope moves to my 18" rogue hunter. true 1X and like red dot. Good for defense.

Noveske n4 -lower
Geissele SSA trigger - No adjustment to mess with. Smooth trigger but not dangerously light. Just crisp.
Vltor Modstock - Carbine stock system, H2 buffer - Designed for 14.5". Very light stock to balance the light 14.5" barrel.
Noveske QD end plate - for easy sling attachment.
Magpul MS2 Sling - easily adjustable 1 point and 2 point sling.

Light - Surefire 6P LED in Larue QD mount. - Throws decent 60 lumens, LED so not affected much by the recoil. Good deal on surefire 6P. Simple operation just push button located on the weak side.

Magazines - Magpul 30 rds. Reliable.
Ammunition - 55gr FMJ Atlanta Arms and Ammo. - Good for practice and competition. Loaded properly. Will meet power factor.
M855 - tactical load. Cheap. Can penetrate thin steel if needed.
M262 - for home defense and target shooting.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/nokiarnp/DSC_2963.jpg

Sorry for the delay. Holidays plus workload....

Here's my 2 Noveske side by side

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/nokiarnp/DSC_2968.jpg

-Smoothdraw

Quib

16 November 2010, 17:01

Will post the picture later if i got some request for it.

-raymond

Don't keep us in suspense! Post those pics!

blackhand

18 November 2010, 13:39

Long-time reader, first-time poster. My rifle started as a CMMG 16" Medium Contour, Mid-length with a Smith Vortex flash hider. I went with CMMG based on recommendations from another forum. Though CMMG may not be considered a top-shelf brand, I felt the overall value and build-to-order options made it a good choice.

http://www.blackhand.com/ar15/ar_left_buis_up_lq.jpg

This was my first rifle, and there were many things I didn't take into consideration, such as weight. The rail is a Daniel Defense 12.0 Omega Rail over a CMMG Micro Gas Block. Optic is an Eotech 512 with Troy BUIS. A Magpul CTR stock, MIAD grip, GG&G foregrip, and Troy rear swivel sling mount finish off the build.

The rifle was very accurate, but HEAVY. The extended rail length and thicker barrel contour made it difficult to maneuver. I had to send back the Eotech 512 because the factory supplied batteries corroded and leaked inside the battery case.

After some hands-on experience with the rifle and additional research, I sold the upper and optic to fund a lighter weight build. This is my current set-up. It's intended as a general purpose rifle because, as of now, it's my only rifle.

http://www.blackhand.com/ar15/ar_piston_left_md.jpg

http://www.blackhand.com/ar15/ar_piston_right_md.jpg

The upper has a pinned CMMG piston system with a Daniel Defense 14.5" carbine-length, CHF barrel with 1/7 twist. CMMG didn't have M4 profile barrels at the time, so I went with the Daniel Defense. I doubt I'd ever wear out a normal barrel, but having the added benefits of a CHF barrel puts my mind at ease. The barrel wears an 18T AAC Blackout flash hider, pinned and welded by Adco.

http://www.blackhand.com/ar15/aac_blackout_sm.jpg

I've read several posts from Adco pointing out flaws in CMMG's barrels and drawbacks to piston ARs. I expected a stern lecture, but what I got was excellent work.

http://www.blackhand.com/ar15/aimpoint_sm.jpg

The optic is an Aimpoint Comp M3 in a Larue mount. I went with the Comp M3 over the Eotech for its longer battery life and durability. I could get on target faster with the Eotech, but I felt the benefits of the CompM3 were greater. The Aimpoint T1 was an option, but it was more expensive.

http://www.blackhand.com/ar15/mount_sm.jpg

I have a Surefire G2 LED in a Gear Sector Offset Mount. I originally had a Larue Offset Mount. It was an excellent, high quality piece of kit but it took up too much space on the 7" Daniel Defense Omega Rail. The mount is positioned so I can activate the G2's tailcap without adjusting my grip. I'd prefer to have the foregrip further out, but there isn't much room on the carbine-length rail.

I added a Magpul ASAP to use with a Magpul MS2 sling. I also added a Magpul BAD lever and Magpul Enhanced Stock pad. I don't have a lot of mass, so anything to help with recoil management is a plus. The only thing I plan to add to this build is a Magpul Rail Sling Adapter and an AAC M4-1000 suppressor.

For this build, I wanted high quality components while trying to minimize cost. After reading countless back and forth debates on direct gas-impingement vs. piston ARs, I went with a piston system. I haven't put enough rounds through the rifle to make a definitive assessment, but it shoots reliably and handles much better than my first build.

I don't foresee using this rifle for home defense or in an emergency, but I feel it will operate reliably in any given situation. I do plan on putting this rifle through some carbine courses and shooting it extensively. It's not meant to be a safe queen.

In the future, I'd consider another mid-length, direct-gas impingement AR in an SPR style build. For now, I can't complain if this is the only rifle I have.

Atticus_1354

21 November 2010, 10:07

So Smoothdraw are you going to post pictures of your 3gun Noveske? I am very interested in seeing how that looks.

ConradEOD

23 November 2010, 07:20

This began as the American Snipers Edition LWRC M6A2-S from Northwest Tactical

What this edition includes (if you haven't seen their threads):

- Cerakote FDE color
- M6A2-S (stretched midlength piston upper)
- 14.7" SPIRAL fluted barrel (shaves 20% of barrel weight)
- AAC Blackout flash hider (PA) with suppressor mount
- Geissele SSA 2 stage trigger
- BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 (med) charging handle
- 36" LWRC case
- t shirt, etc

What I've added:

- LMT SOPMOD stock (blk) - added for cheek weld and solid feel
- Magpul MIAD grip (blk) - added for grip and storage
- Magpul aluminum trigger guard (blk) - gloves firing
- LWRC BUIS by Troy (traded for black)
- TangoDown short vert grip with QD - just enough to get good pull into the shoulder
- TangoDown SCAR rail panels on sides - light, thin, and great grip
- Magpul Ladder rail covers on top/bottom - lightweight; they serve their purpose!
- Surefire X300 light mounted at 9:00 (activated with thumb in "crotch grip") - light and BRIGHT
- Daniel Defense rear receiver QD socket mount - Sling doesn't get in way of shoulder or cheek when firing
- Larue Tactical VTAC padded sling with QD buttons - Love the adjust feature and is very comfortable and durable
- Aimpoint T-1 RDS with Larue 660 tall mount - lightweight and bombproof
- Aimpoint 3x Magnifier on flip to side Larue 649 tall mount - good for extending range of the T-1
- Troy ambidextrous bolt release - I'm playing with this to see if it really speeds up reloading
- Engraved ejection port cover for fun
- bunch of PMAGS and Ranger plates

I think it's finally set up exactly how I want it. I can remove the light and/or 3x magnifier if I want to lighten it up for carbine courses during daytime, etc.

Let me know what you think!

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx179/conradeod/LWRC%20American%20Snipers%20Edition/IMG_0067.jpg
(case is filled with 9 full PMAGS and 270 rounds ready to rock)

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx179/conradeod/LWRC%20American%20Snipers%20Edition/IMG_0064.jpg

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx179/conradeod/LWRC%20American%20Snipers%20Edition/IMG_0061.jpg

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view with mag flipped out of the way

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx179/conradeod/LWRC%20American%20Snipers%20Edition/IMG_0066.jpg

love this position much better than the QD in the stock

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx179/conradeod/LWRC%20American%20Snipers%20Edition/IMG_0058.jpg

wow this stock is SOLID

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx179/conradeod/LWRC%20American%20Snipers%20Edition/IMG_0062.jpg

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx179/conradeod/LWRC%20American%20Snipers%20Edition/IMG_0060.jpg

smoothdraw

2 December 2010, 17:18

I posted the pictures in my original posting. Sorry for the delay. Holidays + work + honey do lists... you know the drill...

So Smoothdraw are you going to post pictures of your 3gun Noveske? I am very interested in seeing how that looks.

DM1975

9 December 2010, 08:23

One of my favorite rifles. It is an LMT 10.5" SBR with a Colt BCG. It is equiped with a KAC M4 RAS, a Surefire scout light, and a SOPMOD buttstock. It originally had a regular collapsable stock on it, but I swapped it out and really like the SOPMOD.

I have been mainly using HK magazines with it but it does well with USGI mags too.

The sling is a specter three point IIRC and the light is mounted on a YHM offset as the factory scout mount just does not cot the mustard in ease of use and keeps the light way to close to the rail for my liking.

I am using an aimpoint CompM2 and Matech BUIS. Only issue I have is that I have trouble getting my PVS14's to fit behind the scope, so I have been mounting it in the front when used.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/LMT/Night-Raid.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/LMT/DSCF3508.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/LMT/DSCF3038.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/LMT/DSCF2361.jpg

Quib

9 December 2010, 10:09

Nice pics DM....especially that first one!

DM1975

9 December 2010, 10:33

Thanks Quib, it is mainly all photoshop. I took a picture of my buddy in gear with my rifle. I took multiple shots against a white background and photoshopped that background and the smoke and light all in it.

Mega

15 December 2010, 15:21

Bushmaster SBR
The only thing left of the original Bushmaster are the roll marks. [:)]

12.5" barrel
11" LaRue quad rail
Aimpoint Comp M4s optic
Timney 3# trigger
KNS anti-roll pins
Noveske KX3 'flaming pig' flash suppressor
BCM FA Bolt Carrier Group
BCM Gunfighter CH
Magpul BUS
Magpul CTR stock
Magpul MIAD battle grip
Magpul AFG
Magpul BAD lever
Magpul ladder rail covers
Magpul 20 round magazines with ranger plates
Viking Tactical padded sling

http://gallery.me.com/kevinfarrell/100158/DSCN0002_4/web.jpg

http://gallery.me.com/kevinfarrell/100158/DSCN0005_4/web.jpg

http://gallery.me.com/kevinfarrell/100158/DSCN0006_3/web.jpg

Jerry R

18 December 2010, 17:18

Eighty 0ne

21 December 2010, 15:25

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/Eighty0ne/Oly%20Arms/rangereport762006.jpg

This is my first build from the ground up.

Originally it was going to be a 16" Russian 5.45x39 build with an Adam's Arms piston kit. Its kind of funny how plans change.
It ended up being a 20" 7.62x39 Russian that I used for hunting season!
It consists of:

SNS Industries "Skull" Lower Receiver
DPMS lower parts kit
18lb hammer spring
A2 buttstock from Olympic Arms
Rainier Arms flat top upper
CAA UPG 16 pistol grip
20" E.R. Shaw Chrome-moly Heavy Barrel 1:10 Twist with Rifle Length Gas System
The Wilderness™ Giles Tactical 3-Point Right Hand A2 Sling
Burris 1" Extra High Matte Black Xtreme Tactical Rings
Bushnell Trophy XLT 4-12x40 w/ Multi X Reticle
Olympic Arms Free Floating Rifle Length Hand guard
Magpul Enhanced Trigger Guard

I really need to get a low pro gas block to improve its looks, but it shoots great and served its purpose this year! :D

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/Eighty0ne/huntingtrip2010007.jpg

Wayneard3413

28 December 2010, 11:26

I attempted to make one weapon that would do everything decently well enough to get me by. My current position has all but relegated this to being a HD and training weapon with the occasional hunting trip thrown in for good measure.

I started out with a BCM middy for obvious reasons. I am currently running a Surefire brake simply because it is what I had on hand and it's previous performance on a SBR I had. I am looking at possibly having the barrel cut down to 14.5" and pinning a BattleComp 1.5 to shave a bit of weight.

The handguard is a VTAC, I liked the idea of a free floating tube with enough space for me to run whatever light/sling mount/BUIS I wanted while still allowing me to run my hand further out on the rail. The light is a X200 since I have the X300 mounted on my pistol. It works okay for indoor work but I have wanted a bit more light at times when working outdoors, I might end up with a VTAC L4 mounted in a DCC mount like I run on my other carbine.

For irons I went with a LMT front with a Trjicon post and the rear is a Larue with a CSAT aperture. Knowing that I am simple creature I thought this to be a fairly quick system to use in the case of my Aimpoint going TU on me. The tritium front will give me a nice index in low light and the CSAT ensures all I have to do it put the front sight where I want the bullet to go.

As for the RDS, it is simply an old M2 that refuses to die. It has made a few trips around the block and although it probably should have given up the ghost a long time ago it still kicking. I have it in a Larue mount that also has proven to be quite reliable.

The Redi-Mod is there in case I need to grab the rifle from the trunk or closet and go. As a patrol rifle I might not have the time to grab the go-bag so this helps to at least handle the spare ammo issue. When it is living by the bedside it should be pretty obvious as to how it will come in handy.

All of the internals are stock save for the Timney trigger that I simply love. It has been 100% reliable thus far and helps me to deliver quick and accurate followup shots. I have thought about swapping it out for a SSA given their great reliability record but I greatly prefer the single stage Timney.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/wayneard3413/DSCF6021.jpg

TehLlama

30 December 2010, 12:45

http://images.dr3vil.com/files/24/m4c.JPG

I really like the idea of an offset scout mount with that rail - my version of that will wear the GearSector version, but with the pressure switch I moved the light back so the head was flush with the end of my RIS, trying to keep the weight farther back, with the offset putting the light at the 1:30 position.

Have you looking into the TangoDown stubby?

TehLlama

30 December 2010, 21:34

I finally have a good enough picture to take a stab at my latest layout(s) for my wife's rifle and my project SBR.

Lower: Knight's Armament SR-15 IWS Lower. Best set of ambidextrous features on the market.
Pistol Grip: MagPul MOE. Completely better than the A2, and cheap. The second SR15 lower will come with one already installed.
Stock: While I like the SOPMOD, I still prefer the EMOD, and even more so the ACS. Changes to come there.
Buffer: Spike's ST-2. The SR15 marked buffer follows my SR15 upper.

Upper: Daniel Defense Forged Upper
Barrel: Daniel Defense CHF 16" Lightweight Middy. Soon to be 14.5" - hence the 1.5 BattleComp
Gas Block: VLTOR Low profile. Simple, and will get pinned along with the muzzle brake.
Front Sight: Daniel Defense Fixed. Again, simple, light, and works extremely well with the X300
Rear Sight: TROY BUIS. Was still in box for picture. Shy bugger.

Optic: Aimpoint T-1 on KAC Absco Mount. It works, and it's light. The KAC isn't my favorite micro mount, but it works.
Weaponlight: Surefire X300. Mounted at 12:00, it's plenty ambidextrous, to complement the ambi lower.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2uqkphx.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/10op75x.jpg

LanceCriminal

31 December 2010, 12:46

Just assembled my first upper, I had been wanting a Mk12 Mod 0 clone for a while, but after seeing the ASA side charger upper, I decided to build my own. This rifle is still WIP, I need the PEQ-2-3 mount, and then decide whether I will get a different lower or not. After testing it with the POF lower, It had some wiggle which I did not like. The LMT was VERY tight, and it still balanced well with the SOPMOD stock.

Most of the guts (barrel, PRI tube, Bolt) were supplied by Rainier Arms. Excellent customer service, and their no-cost bolt/barrel headspace service was definitely a boon.

Contents:
ASA Side Charger Upper, M4 feed ramps
ASA chrome Bolt Carrier, Young MFG bolt, headspaced to barrel by Rainier Arms
White Oak Armament 18" SS SPR pattern barrel, rifle length gas, 1/7 twist, .223 Wylde chamber
PRI Gen 3 tube
PRI front sight, crossbolt version
Gas Tube from BCM
Viking MK2 padded sling, MK3 buttstock adapter, MI QD sling swivel up front
ARMS #40 rear sight (not installed in pics due to height, had to use my Troy rear sight to clear the scope
Larue SPR-S scope mount
SWFA 3-9X SS scope, First Focal Plane
Larue QD bipod mount, Harris benchrest bipod

Shown fitted on both POF billet lower W/A1 stock. *** I have now added some much better pictures, may have gotten a bit carried away!!!***

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9712/dscn0020be.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/dscn0020be.jpg/)
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Also appearing is an M4A1 clone, with BCM 16" M4 pattern upper, BCM BCG, BCM Gunfighter handle, ARMS #40(until I get the rail for the Mk12, then it goes back to my M.I. A2 style folding site), Knights M4 RAS, all on top of an LMT lower with ERGO grip and SOPMOD stock. I think my Surefire is a 660, not sure though. Also has the Viking Mk2 padded sling using QD attachments front and rear. I currently use a Burris red dot, as I got it for cheap at a gun show used. Has worked very well, fulfills its function nicely for its price, mounted in an ADCO cantilever mount.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2470/dscn0006e.th.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/dscn0006e.jpg/)
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dlee25

31 December 2010, 21:51

Here is my latest set up. It's a Del-Ton mid-length with a LaRue 9.0 rail. The Eotech 512 sits on a LaRue LT-110 and the BUIS is GG&G.
The rails are covered by Magpul and LaRue covers. I really like the versatilty of the LaRue design. The stubby foregrip is from Weaver while a Streamlight Poly is mounted
on an older style Viking Tactics off set mount.
The rest of the carbine is decked out in Magpul including BAD lever and triggerguard.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/DLEE25_2006/DSC_6202.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/DLEE25_2006/DSC_6206.jpg

HeavyDuty

1 January 2011, 08:20

A few minor "lessons learned" updates to the carbine I described in this earlier post... (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?817-Explain-your-AR15-layout...&p=21574#post21574)

1. After using the carbine for a few months I realized that even XT rail covers were too bulky for my tastes, even on an oval profile Omega. (I obviously have a strong preference for small handguards.) I've had issues in the past with poor heat isolation when using ladders so they weren't an option. Finally I hit on the idea of LaRue Index Clips. Now I'm happy - I got the hand feel I wanted with better heat isolation than ladders.

2. I began to realize that this rail equipped carbine was actually too... something (technical, maybe?) for my main shooter. So, I'm in the process of building a 16" pencil midlength with an ACS and a MOE handguard to be my number one - it will be a basic build with only RDS, light and sling. I moved the ACS off this carbine over to the new build and decided to go with something a little different for me - a LaRue UDE CTR kit. My reasoning was that this is already a non-NFA minimum size build due to the pinned 14.5", so the smaller and lighter CTR made sense. No, the cheek weld isn't as comfortable for me as was the ACS, but it's still quite acceptable. So far, so good.

3. Lastly, when I dumped the XT panels for Index Clips I decided to try something new as a test - QD slinging instead of HK hooks. To this end I removed the (excellent) Gear Sector loop and the ASAP in favor of a Noveske QD end plate and the Omega's integral QD sockets. This is working very well - I lost the 1/2 conversion capability, or at least I did until IWC announced their innovative '2 To 1 Point Tri-Glide which I hope to try soon. Not using the Gear Sector loop also gained me a little additional comfortable handguard space. I have played with using the CTR's built-in QD sockets, but I really prefer how the carbine hangs and handles with the rear of the sling attached to the back of the receiver - part of this is body shape, I'm sure. If I had "six pack abs" instead of "pony keg abs", I might feel differently.

So, I think this carbine's setup is stable at this point - but then again, I thought that before. Develop, test, deploy, reanalyze, rework.

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/HDF62/AGP-2-1.jpg

LRB45

2 January 2011, 04:42

My carbine is not overly special but here is the run down.

Started with a LMT lower with Sopmod stock, Ergo grip and standard trigger. Would like to try the Magpul MIAD grip but don't mind the Ergo, it could be just a little bigger though. The stock trigger is O.K just need to be shot more.

Since I had a LMT lower I kinda wanted to go the LMT route for the upper. Ordered a 14.5" upper which since I didn't want to go the NFA route meant I had to pin and weld a flashider. So I got the Vortex flashider and sent it to ADCO along with a 7" LaRue quad rail. If I could do it over again I would cut down the FSB and go with a longer rail since I always seem to grip in front of the rail until it gets too hot.

The other items on my carbine are a LMT BCG, LMT tactical charging handle, a LaRue rear sight, a BFG sling with push buttons, and a Surefire 6P with Malkoff M61 drop in mounted in a LaRue offset mount. The flashlight mount when I have it mounted does help keep my hand on the rail though.

This is my first AR type rifle and overall am pretty happy with it. Like I said earlier if I could do it over again I would go with a longer rail. Or maybe just go with the MRP from LMT, really like the looks of those. Also could save some headaches and just SBR the lower too. Also would like to get a RDS or a good quality 1-4 scope.

ETA I also have the LaRue Index Clips on the exposed rails. Really like those too.

mjkeat

2 January 2011, 11:55

I wanted something light weight and smooth that would help get me involved in compitition shooting. After reading up on LW barrels and BC comps. I decided to go that direction and placed an order w/ SG. So far Im happy.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/mjkeat/IMG_4065.jpg

STARIK

4 January 2011, 10:49

Base: SDI XR15 11.5” assembly in Great Britain.. Barrel Havy barrel 1/9” twist cut to 10.3” by a gunsmith in France. I wanted a clone of Mk18

LMT SOMPOD Gen 2
LMT Buis
KAC RIS Handguard
Magpul MIAD
Wilcox Mount
Aimpoint M3 2 MOA
CQD® Rear Sling Mount and CQD® Forward Sling Mount
NORGON Ambi-Catch™
Surefire M900

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss325/STARIK91/Armes%20Perso/rductionMk1811.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss325/STARIK91/Armes%20Perso/reductionIMG_2015.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss325/STARIK91/Armes%20Accessoires/reductionIMG_0678.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss325/STARIK91/Armes%20Perso/reductionMk180114.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss325/STARIK91/Gear/reductionIMG_1068.jpg

and…
Swiss Brugger &Thommet Rotex III Compact suppressor

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss325/STARIK91/Armes%20Perso/reductionIMG_0580.jpg

LanceCriminal

13 January 2011, 18:06

My original post disappeared, and I have made some updates:

Mk12 Mod 0 Clone:
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5992/rifleright.jpg

ASA Side Charger upper
WOA 18" SPR barrel 1/7 twist
ASA Chrome BCG, Young MFG chrome bolt, selected for headspace by Rainier Arms
PRI Gen III tube, ARMS #38 rail
PRI Folding front sight base, ARMS #40 rear sight
POF lower w/ A1 stock and Ergo grip (slightly loose fit between upper and lower, likely I'll build a new lower for the rifle)
Standard A2 flash hider until I decide on suppressor
Bushnell 4200 Elite 3-12x44 FFP Mil-Dot illuminated (blowout at Natchez, $539) on ARMS #22 Medium rings
Viking MK2 sling

Built the rifle as I fell in love with the Mod 0 the first time I saw one. Chose the Mod 0 based on aesthetics, as I won't be putting extremely hard use on the rifle anytime soon. Should that change, I'll probably just throw a low-pro block on and a Larue/DD rail and go Mod 1. This was my first time assembling an upper, so it is not "safe queen pretty" and I never intended it to really be one anyways, has some finish marring from install of PRI tube. I will eventually pick up a PVS-22 type NVG. Depending on suppressor availability it will have either an OPS 12th model or an AAC SPR/M4.

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/1478/dscn0101.th.jpg (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/dscn0101.jpg/)
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8959/chandlerear.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/chandlerear.jpg/)
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7238/chandle.th.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/chandle.jpg/)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7627/riflecloseleft.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/riflecloseleft.jpg/)
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/8587/dscn0095k.th.jpg (http://img814.imageshack.us/i/dscn0095k.jpg/)
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8485/dscn0094f.th.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/dscn0094f.jpg/)

M4A1 clone:
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4223/dscn0103y.jpg

BCM 16" M4 profile upper, BCG, & Gunfighter handle
LMT lower with Sopmod
Knights M4 rails, Ergo broomstick, Surefire 660(i think)
Viking Mk2 sling w/QD attachments
Burris XTR-135 in ADCO cantilever mount

I built this rifle to pretty much be like our M4s we used with a few changes such as optic and stock. The more I shoot it I see the reasoning for the long mid length handguards. Someday I'll do a mid length, but I kept this one in case I decide to start drilling and/or augment. I like having a rifle close to what I'd have again should that happen. That, and I like having this rifle nice and simple.

Rodman24

16 January 2011, 20:44

CARBINE

I started off with a stock Daniel Defense M4v4.

BARREL: 16" carbine length

UPPER: DD - Added a PRI Big Latch to stock charging handle. I'm putting a BCM Gunfighter on my new build and will evaluate the need for replacement.

LOWER: DD - Added Arrendondo oversized mag release, Wilson Combat oversized bolt release, DPMS ambi-selector. New build is getting a BAD ASS ST and will evaluate the need for replacement. I hate the way the standard selector switch digs into my firing hand. BAD ASS has short levers that appear to work well - I tried on a friend's and it was great!

TRIGGER: JP single stage. I tried a friend's 2 stage, but I simply preferred the single stage.

RAIL: Troy 13" TRX rail - I replaced the FSB and 7" free float DD rail. I think a 7" hand guard is just too short. I prefer a "thumb over" grip. I found that the natural positioning of my grip was at the length of the rail, and I tended to have my index finger riding on the bottom opening of the rail. That wasn't a huge problem, but it seemed odd. It did allow me to have a stable grip with pressure on my shoulder, but it just seemed a bit odd. The TRX 's thin, un-rail-incumbered diameter allows a better grip. Also, the longer rail allows a longer sight distance. So far I like this set up.

SIGHTS: Troy flip up - Front is an HK and the rear is going to be a standard. I tried the Di-optic, but it was not for me. The fine folks at Troy said to ship it back and they're swapping it for me. With my fixed DD rear the HK front is great at the length of this rail. The HK shape fits perfectly within the small aperture.

OPTIC: I went for a Trijicon TR21 with the green post reticle. It's mounted to a LaRue SPR-E LT139. The extended mount is good with 4" eye relief on the TR21. I wanted some magnification with the option of the 1.25x. Honestly, I leave it on 4 most of the time. I have Bushnell Elite 4200 4-12x44 on the way.

STOCK: I replaced the MOE with a UBR. I actually wanted a little more weight on the rear for balance, and I like the fixed cheek weld. It's solid as a rock.

GRIP: MIAD It's nice to have a little storage and the adjustability is great.

LIGHT: None. I just haven't felt compelled.

6.5 GRENDEL PRECISION

This is still being built, but it should be finished in the coming weeks.

BARELL: Sabre Defense 18" SS

BOLT: Sabre Defense matched

UPPER: Noveske with BCM Gunfighter Mod 4

LOWER: Noveske with BAD ASS ST, Arrendondo mag release on right, Troy ambi-mag release on left, Wilson Combat oversized bolt release.

TRIGGER: JP Single Stage

RAIL: 13" TRX - Since this is more of a precision rig, I figure the 13" will be a good length for addition of the bipod. For non-prone - see above thoughts on grip.

SIGHTS: None for now. I may just put some Magul BUIS on it. I have a rear already. Not thinking they're really necessary on this one.

OPTICS: Since this is the my first go at a longer range rifle, I'm going to step into this slowly. As I mentioned above in my carbine description, I have a Bushnell 4-12x44 on the way. That will be the optic on this one for now. Eventually I will want to move to a larger magnification, but until I start shooting at longer distances, this one should work for now.

OPTIC MOUNT: While I have no negative issues with my LaRue, I'm going with Bobro on this one.

STOCK: PRS

GRIP: MIAD

BIPOD: I know Harris is the tried and true standard, but considering the money going into this build, I figured I shouldn't let it be an issue here. So I'm going to try out the Atlas. I've read some great comments, but don't know anyone who's tried one. So I'm gonna step out and take the chance. I must say that I appreciate the simplicity of the Atlas design.

Any recommendations that you think I should consider would be appreciated. In particular, any suggestions about eventual optics on the 6.5 would be appreciated.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/56112149@N02/5368783684/

Quentin

24 January 2011, 16:28

"Explain your AR15 layout... What are the parts on your AR15, what options did you consider, and why did you go with your decision?"

I wanted a reliable 16" midlength carbine with high quality but affordable components. Something plain jane that would work well for the range and home defense and be worth upgrading later.

So far it looks like I got the rifle I wanted: it is 100% reliable, no extraction problems or shortstroking issues and the bolt locks back properly on the last shot with PMAGs and good GI magazines, even a few cheap Thermolds. No malfunctions of any kind so far, even firing cheap steel case. And it is almost a pound lighter than the ArmaLite midlength build I did in 2009.

Components are listed below with pictures. The basic rifle came in right at $900 with another $100 for the cheap optics and accessories.
I'm tempted to name it Dan Wesson for the Daniel Defense and S&W major components. [:D]

Criticism/suggestions would be appreciated - scrutiny by more experienced people is always good! I know the optic and sling are problems so can use help there.
Thanks for looking!

Lower Receiver:

Basic but should do the job. I have no problem with the standard trigger guard, A2 pistol grip and M4 stock and honestly like the look. I do need to stake the castle nut.

The M&P-15 lower is finished smoother than most receivers and has a nicely flared magwell. A beautiful lower to start a build on.

Smith&Wesson Model M&P-15 Stripped Lower $130
Stag Lower Parts Kit $65 (pictured with a notched hammer, that has been replaced with unnotched from another Stag LPK)
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer $85

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0772.jpg

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0769.jpg

Upper Receiver:

I considered a government profile midlength but chose the LW profile to shave off six ounces. And went with 16" over 14.5" to avoid added complexity for changes down the road. The standard FSB, flash hider and MOE handguards should suffice for a basic carbine. BCM had been my first choice but the Smartgunner.com/Daniel Defense deal was too good to ignore.

Excellent workmanship and quality components throughout. I'm very happy with Daniel Defense.

Daniel Defense 16” Midlength 1:7 CHF LW profile $374
Daniel Defense M16 Bolt Carrier Group $124
Daniel Defense Charging Handle $19
Magpul MOE Midlength Handguards $34

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DDUpperright.jpg

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DDUpperleft.jpg

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DDbarrelmarkings.jpg

Even though the carbine is a half breed the upper and lower fit/function well.

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DDUpper-SWLowerrightcloseup.jpg

Sights:

This area will draw negative comments but I wanted to keep costs down for now. At least the cheap RDS is cowitnessed with the irons making it easy to tell if the dot drifts off zero. I'm using the same combo on my ArmaLite build with success so expect it to work here as well. No doubt there are better solutions but they cost. If this proves to be a problem later I'll have to find something else.

I am very embarrassed to have a UTG part on this rifle and need to find a better riser soon! My only defense is that it's exactly the right size and works so far. Any ideas on a quality 1x1.6" rail riser?

Colt A4 Cut Carry Handle (Anchor Harvey) $40
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 1x25mm Red Dot Sight $80
UTG RS10S3 1x1.6” Rail Riser Mount $10

The sight on the left is a Cerro Forge carry handle I just cut down, the sight on right is the Anchor Harvey after touch up and paint.

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/CutCarryHandlecloseup4.jpg

Miscellaneous:

S&W M&P15 MagPul PMAG 30rd Magazine $10
The Wilderness™ Giles Tactical 3-Point sling $35

The sling is adequate for now but I need to put thought into a replacement.

Complete Rifle:

Daniel Defense/S&W left
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0867a.jpg

Dan Wesson right (added MOE grip, QD sling mounts)
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0945.jpg

Eric

24 January 2011, 22:39

Nice photos Quentin. It clearly depicts what you have. The LW mid really has a lot going for it and would be something that I would be happy to spend money on. The Bushnell optic isn't something that I would use, but my needs might differ from yours. Any reason you went with a 3 point sling over a 2 point? I ran a 3 point for a long time and was a slow convert to the 2 point, but will never go back.

What role will this carbine be used in?

Quentin

25 January 2011, 07:22

Thanks Eric! I'm really impressed with the LW 16" midlength. It balances well and feels very light compared to my ArmaLite middy. With both rifles configured the same, TRS-25, riser and cut carry handle, it's easy to compare heft and balance. I doubt I'd ever go with a heavy barrel again. (The ArmaLite build is equivalent to their M15A4C. BTW, I've read your review of their ISP model and learned a lot from it - thank you!) I do want to compare how my two ARs handle offhand and on the bench - and how the barrel profiles and twist rates handle different ammo.

Honestly the 3-point sling is a leftover that I like. I appreciate your comments because I'm wondering if it's the right way to go today. It helps hearing comments from experienced people like yourself and I do need to research slings again. I like two points of attachment to the rifle and expect the 2-point would be a lot less "busy" than the 3-point. Also I want to take advantage of QD mounts.

As far as the role of this carbine: I'm retired and not likely to go in harm's way with a carbine but wanted something of high quality. (Instead, a Colt 45ACP is and has been for 40 years my choice for home defense.) But the M16 was my best friend in Vietnam so there is the "old man and his memories" thing behind the purchase (of a modernized version). However you never know what may happen in the future so I didn't want to cut corners with the basic rifle though didn't mind doing so with easily replaced items like optics, especially since I'm still good with iron sights and cowitnessing quickly tells you if the cheap optic has drifted. And finally, there is the pride factor of building something of quality and passing on something great to the kids, not junk.

Thanks again, Eric!

Quentin

26 January 2011, 18:56

My first AR build changed so I'll drop in some new pictures of it. This AR mainly is a range gun and I always wanted an ArmaLite, even though I knew the new company has nothing to do with the original AR-15. The upper receiver was bought in 2009 just after the height of panic buying after the presidential election. There still were backorders on many parts so I was glad to find an ArmaLite midlength upper close to what I wanted.

Last year I bought an ArmaLite M15 Stripped Lower Receiver that Impact Guns had on sale. I also got an ArmaLite LPK and BCM milspec receiver extension/M4 Gen II stock kit. I upgraded to the BCM H2 buffer.

I put the ArmaLite midlength upper on the new lower which freed up my S&W M&P-15 lower for the Daniel Defense 16" LW midlength upper described a few posts above. I couldn't resist marrying an ArmaLite logo lower to the ArmaLite upper and figured the DD/S&W combo would be good as well.

The H2 buffer in a midlength was a gamble that it might induce shortstroking especially with low powered Wolf/Tula/Herter's. I hoped that the slightly lighter ArmaLite bolt carrier (about 1/2 oz less than an M16 carrier since it's an AR-15 type) would work well with the H2 buffer which is about an ounce heavier than the H. If problems arise I'll drop down to an H buffer.

I removed the extractor O-ring and use the black insert/spring ArmaLite put in the bolt. So far no extraction problems or shortstroking issues and the bolt locks back properly on the last shot with PMAGs and good GI magazines, even a few cheap Thermolds. No malfunctions of any kind so far, even firing cheap steel case.

Lower Receiver:

Basic and should do the job. I have no problem with the standard trigger guard, A2 pistol grip and M4 stock and honestly like the look. I do need to stake the castle nut. This lower isn't finished as well as the S&W M&P-15 and the magwell isn't flared as well. No real problems though.

ArmaLite M15 Stripped Lower $120
ArmaLite Lower Parts Kit $80
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H2-buffer $95

ArmaLite stripped lower:
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0744b.jpg

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0746.jpg

And the complete lower:
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0754b.jpg

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0756.jpg

Upper Receiver:

The removable front sight is a plus especially when I mount a scope. Accurate but on the heavy side. I did have to add Busmaster's taller front sight post in order to use milspec height rear sights.

ArmaLite U15A4CB complete Upper Receiver $500
Wilson Arms 16” Midlength HBAR Barrel (included above)

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/ArmaLiteUM15A4BCupperleft.jpg

Sights:

ArmaLite E20151 Railed Gas Block Sight (included with upper)
Colt A4 Carry Handle, cut down (Cerro Forge) $35
Bushmaster 0.04” taller front sight post $6
Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 scope $100
Extra tall scope mounts $20

The sight on the left is the Cerro Forge carry handle I cut down, the sight on right is an Anchor Harvey after touch up and paint.

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/CutCarryHandlecloseup4.jpg

Miscellaneous:
CQB Solutions 3-Point Tactical Sling (used) $10
USGI/Defense Solutions Group 30rd Magazine $10

Complete Rifle:

And here's my old ArmaLite in her new clothing

ArmaLite left
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0893a.jpg

ArmaLite right
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz211/Quentin68/DSCN0874.jpg

ICANHITHIMMAN

1 February 2011, 12:51

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/0015.jpg

LMT MRP upper
LMT enhanced charging handle
Pre Ban PWA lower
G&R tactical LPK
KNS pins
Adams Arms piston spring
LMT sopmod, tango down, magpul XTM panels, PWS buffer tube
552 RDS, H&K battle sights

This rifle I built for my self after my last tour, I wanted to try out a piston system and this seamed like the most logical choice, due to the fact I could switch it back to DI. The weapon is a bit on the heavy side due to barrel profile. It was too heavy for my wife to fire for an extended period of time which lead to the building of the second weapon. I am not yet sure if I am a fan of the H&K Doppler sights. I find them to sit to low for my face and have to fight to get my face down there for rapid sight accusation. The ideas expressed in this weapon are from my own experienced and what I found worked for me. I went through 5 off the shelf rifles before I settle on all the individual parts to build this weapon. I used every sight you could think off and found my way back to the 552 it works for me.

Daniel Defense light weight barrel 16" with mid length gas system
Daniel Defense upper with BCG, LMT enhanced charging handle
PRE BAN PWA lower
G&R tactical LPK
Daniel Defense A1 rear sights, Aimpoint H1, Daniel Defense riser mount
Magpul CTR, LMT buffer tube, Troy extreme battle rail

The second weapon if my wife’s, it was built with her in mind from the ground up. It is light weight and controllable. The battle rail is perfect for her she is able to wrap her whole hand around the forearm. I installed a magpul single point sling and adapter plate because that the type of sling her department issues on their patrol shot guns. The aimpoint will remain silver I know a lot of guys paint them but she likes it that way. I am planning to add a battle comp in SS to it to accent the aimpoint and cut down on barrel hop. My wife is able to run the weapon like a champ. I have found it simply amazing how fast women pick up and master proper shooting form in comparison to their male counter parts.

gscadam

9 February 2011, 11:45

Long-time lurker, figured I'd finally get around to posting my rifle. It's not a Noveske or BCM but it works for how I use it.

Currently:
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn178/tkdkracker007/AR%2015%20stuff/100_1910.jpg

Started life as a DPMS Lo-Pro that I bought from a local. The forged lower and LPK are all that remain. Upper is a Del-Ton M4 with CL 1x9 and M4 feedramps. I prefer that twist based on what I see locally at Wallyworld and it has been flawless with everything I've shot, thus far 500 through the upper. I replaced the A2 stock with an RRA M4 style, it's commercial spec but I didn't know better at the time.

I replaced the A2 with a Battle-Comp 1.0 when they became available. It works awesome, really worth the dough.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn178/tkdkracker007/AR%2015%20stuff/100_1911.jpg

Magpul MBUS is backup to a Primary Arms Micro-Dot. I've had zero problems with the PA and its mount. I ground off a corner of the latch (per a thread on Arfcom) to make the emergency-release into a quick-release. I haven't replaced the battery once, it's been off-and-on again and holds zero well; I think it works nicely until I can fund a real Aimpoint. Good for what it is.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn178/tkdkracker007/AR%2015%20stuff/100_1912.jpg

The bolt is non-MPI, but it will eventually get replaced with a BCM or similar. I did upgrade the extractor with the BCM spring/insert and o-ring. Carrier staking looks GTG. Upgraded to an H-buffer. I replaced the bolt release with a one-piece ambi unit from Phase 5 Tactical, makes reloads a breeze (and was all that would fit when I still had the Lo-Pro upper).

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn178/tkdkracker007/AR%2015%20stuff/100_1914.jpg

I liked the simple functionality of the Magpul MOE line, so I went with their handguard with VFG grip. I wanted to keep my LED 6P Defender out front (originally mounted in a Viking Tactical mount but I didn't like how much hand-guard I lost), so I opted for an Elzetta mount to compliment the Magpul gear. The swing swivel is a looser tolerance, which works perfect for actuating the tailcap. I do have to physically reach around the swivel to turn completely click the tailcap for constant-on operation, but I don't mind that at all. Magpul MOE grip is comfortable and holds spare CR123 batteries for the light.

I opted for a Magpul ACS stock; I originally had a CTR but the gun felt way too front heavy. It's still heavier than I'd prefer, but I can't think of one thing to remove. The ACS has nothing in the tubes; the compartment holds a zip-loc with 6 backup batteries for the red-dot, spare ear-plugs, A2 front sight tool and Magpul faux-bullet.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn178/tkdkracker007/AR%2015%20stuff/100_1913.jpg

I added a Noveske end-plate QD mount (I felt blasphemous putting it on a DPMS product... [BD]) and works well with a Troy single point sling. I staked it with a spring-punch and it ain't goin anywhere.

That's about it. I'm happy with it, and other than upgrading to a real Aimpoint and swapping the bolt with a BCM or Spikes, I can't think of anything else to add. I would like to eventually run a carbine course (would also like to have a spare AR for that as well... incentive to buy another!)

I appreciate any feedback on the setup. This site is so much better than Arfcom and the info and presentations superb. This thread makes me want to spend money. [:)]

Quiet-Matt

13 February 2011, 19:16

My current favorite...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_5kA3JwNkBxc/TRz71jKTBTI/AAAAAAAAHTk/piU4-3prFA8/s720/DSC01648.JPG
Lower - Aero Precision, no complaints
LPK - CMT, got lucky on this one with by far the best mil spec trigger I've ever used
Safety Selector - Ambi (because I have 2 hands)
RE - Mil Spec BCM
Endpplate - Quiet-Matt special
Grip/Stock - MOE (they fit, plain and simple)
Buffer - H (had a carbine buffer and a H2.... shuffled weights and made 2 H buffers)
Upper - BCM (came with the barrel)
Barrel - BCM 14.5" M4 carbine, chopped FSB, A2X FH pinned (I'll run this barrel till it gives up the ghost)
Handguard - Troy TRX 13", Noveske QD socket(added since picture was taken) (doesn't clutter my grip with rails I don't use)
Irons - front DD fixed, rear Troy flip up (simple, durable, and accurate)
Optic - Aimpoint H1 on Larue LT660 (chosen for battery life, durability, and light weight)
BCG - DD
White Light - Surefire G2LED in a VLTOR mount on port side for thumb over activation
Sling - VTAC 2 point

I went with several configurations untill I found a S&W M&P15 TS that I fell in love with. I based this configuration on the Smith. It just works for me and my stance.

PuppY_Kick3R

5 March 2011, 15:06

Heres my lower which i built a couple weeks ago. Now just waiting for more cash so i can finish the upper.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5016/5492818047_5cfa570ca5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumb5150/5492818047/)
Lower Rez (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumb5150/5492818047/) by jumb5150 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jumb5150/), on Flickr

Heres what its got:

Spikes stripped lower
RRA parts kit
Stag ambi selector
Magpul CTR Stock
Magpul MOE Grip
Noveske QD plate
Magpul BAD lever

DrunkUncles

7 March 2011, 18:06

OK.... I 've been lurking for quite a while but now it's time to post.... Here's my Rock River Op. Magpul rear and PMAG's. I've got a DD quadrail on order and I'm saving the cash for a OETech 512. But here she is as I bought her:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/cperreault/Guns/IMG_0580.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/cperreault/Guns/IMG_0585.jpg

Chris

DrunkUncles

7 March 2011, 18:09

OK, I've been lurking here for a while but here's my toy... Rock River Op with Magpul rear and PMAG's, DD quadrail on oder and I'm pull'n the cash together for an EOTech512....
<a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/cperreault/Guns/?action=view&current=IMG_0585.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/cperreault/Guns/IMG_0585.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/cperreault/Guns/?action=view&current=IMG_0580.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/cperreault/Guns/IMG_0580.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Chris

xbmxracerx

8 March 2011, 13:20

I went with the Daniel Defense DDM4v3 midlength. I added the Trijicon ACOG RCO-M4CP, Troy/Spike's rear BUIS, Spike's stubby forward grip, Spike's BC and bolt, Spike's ST-T2 buffer, Spike's Billet trigger guard, Hogue grip, YHM 5C2 Phantom FH, Magpul B.A.D, Surefire M300A Miniscout w/ SR07 dual switch, Magpul P-Mags with Ranger Plates, Mapul MOE Enhanced butt-stock.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/IMG02100-20110122-1802.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/185983_1831578825234_1113293683_2157165_4649520_n. jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/IMG02320-20110223-1334.jpg

sangria7

19 March 2011, 15:21

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4417/dscn02181024x731.jpg
1. Upper and Lower S&W Receivers. Wanted to try something different but a a budget price.
2. Magpul MOE Pistol Grip
3. Spikes Tactical Buffer - heavier buffer to reduce recoil
4. BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle, Medium - gives me ability to charge with left hand
5. BAD Lever: Made sense to add this because I had the Gunfighter charging handle. Now I can fully manipulate the rifle without leaving fire control.
6. Magpul Advanced Trigger Guard: Better suited shooting with gloves.
7. Tango Down VGF: After switching over two dozens time between the Magpul AFG and a UTG VFG, I finally broke down and bought a Tango Down VFG. I must say I prefer it now better than the AFG. The UTG VFG was just too bulky and did not feel right. The AFG felt fine, but the Tango Down VFG was my favorite. It allowed me to control the weapon the best either with a standard grip or the thumb break method
8. Midwest Industries GEN2 Rail - rail system has built in sling QD slot and drop in capability.
9. Viking Tactical Sling - Two Point Slings work better IMO
10. Mappul XTM Panels - Mainly just for looks

Since video I changed the following
11. Added the Battlecomp 2.0 - removed the XTC Comp. Honestly, brake wise they both seem to be equal but the Battlecomp is shorter and is a better flashhider.
12. Removed Magpul Enhanced Pad and went back to standard butt-stock pad.
13. Eotech 511 - Replaced Primary Arms M3 Red dot with the Eotech. Ah so much better sight picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4d_SFP6RyQ

goteron

21 March 2011, 06:48

9" 300BLK

Lower

LWRC SBR Lower - Its the fist lower I SBR'd. Its a quality company and seems to be in spec
Magpul CTR - About the lightest and Shortest stock around
MOE Grip - I like the profile and its cheap
BAD Lever - It worked well on my previous upper, not sure if it is reliable in this configuration yet
KNS Pins - Bought before I knew better, lost my stock pins, so these stay until I come across them
ASAP Plate - I have switched to a VCAS on all my other guns, looks like MS2 has found a home here.

Upper
Rainier Upper - Quality upper at a reasonable cost - Not to mention I can order everything from one place and its at my door before I hit "Submit Order"
Rainier BCG - Same Deal as upper
Troy TRX Exteme 9" - Lightest and slimmest rail available
Gunfighter CH - Much easier to manipulate quickly
9" AAC 300BLK Barrel with Low Profile GB - Good quality Barrel, havent tested for accuracy yet
Troy 7.62 Claymore - Eh, will give it a try, at such a little weight penalty I dont think it can be worse than an A2 style - BABC is just too long for this gun.... but may have to use it anyway - Not to mention 1/4 the price of the BABC
T-1 in Mount - Small, light, effective. I have a DD mount on the way for this gun
TLR-3 - Best Compact light available. It also sits far forward
Magpul Vert Grip - Custom fit for this rail - This will be cut down once I get comfortable knowing how long it needs to be
Mount-n-slot hand stop - To prevent burns

Weighs in at 6.4lbs as it sits in the picture. I can probably get it below 6 if I re-profile the barrel to .625" But id rather not lose the Nitride finish.
A mag full of 300BLK weighs 1.4-1.5 lbs.

http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/goteron/406d6ca6.jpg

HeavyDuty

26 March 2011, 17:34

After I completed my railed carbine build (described and updated above) I decided I wanted a simpler 16" to be my main go-to AR. It's finally done:

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/HDF62/IWCQD6.jpg

The whats and whys (some of this is repeated from my earlier build):

Lower receiver - AGP Arms with a RRA LPK and a Vltor A5 receiver extension. I've had great luck with several builds on AGP lowers; everything is in tolerance and well finished. RRA LPKs aren't sexy but they work for me. This is my first build using a Vltor A5 RE and buffer - the advantages seem obvious, so I thought it was time to give one a try. I'm using the standard weight buffer that comes with their kit.

Complete barreled upper receiver less BCG and charging handle - Daniel Defense via Smartgunner. It's a 16" 1:7 CHF chrome lined midlength pencil - typical great DD quality. I went lightweight with this one because, well... it's lightweight. Muzzle device is a Micor 1N7, I prefer closed end devices and wanted to give this one a try.

BCG and charging handle - BCM FA with a Mod 5 Gunfighter. I consider BCM's BCGs to be the gold standard and really like their small latch charging handle - it doesn't stick me in my pony keg abs when slung.

Magazines - my actively used magazines are all Magpul Maglevel PMAGs. I do have a pile of USGI 20 and 30 rounders, but the Magpuls have always functioned 100% for me.

Iron Sights - a "F" FSB with a Hahn Precision rear BUIS. I prefer a pinned front sight base for durability and simplicity on "serious" rifles and carbines. I've owned several different rear BUIS over the years and handled a whole lot more, and most of them are IMO too complex for a BUIS. I wanted a simple folding rear that was low profile, low parts count and durable. The Hahn meets my needs perfectly - it mounts up solid, has a sturdy aperture stalk and is almost impossible to inadvertently change zero because it uses an A1 windage drum.

RDS - Aimpoint ML-3 (2 MOA) in a ADM AD-68 absolute cowitness mount. Aimpoints are durable like a hammer; I prefer the smaller 2 MOA dot instead of the 4 MOA. I chose an M series over a T-1 because I want flipup covers and the protective jacket. I'm not a fan of lower 1/3 cowitness which is why I went with the ADM - it's proving to be a very nice mount.

Buttstock - ACS buttstock with enhanced buttpad. ACS is pretty much my default stock - I like the cheekweld, it balances well for me since I prefer slightly butt-heavy balance and (with the enhanced buttpad) is just about the perfect length for me two clicks out in shirtsleeves or one click out in a chore coat. The ACS does fully collapse on the longer Vltor A5 RE, too. There's a broken cartridge removal tool, an A1 rear sight tool and a A2 front sight tool stashed in the hinged compartment plus extra foam earplugs in the tubes. This build has two sets of purses and heels - FDE for fall and winter, Foliage for spring and summer.

Pistol grip - Magpul MOE. Magpul's PG shape works well for me after years of using Hogue PGs; I have tried TD and Ergo PGs but prefer the MOE/MIAD shape. MIAD has features I don't need, so MOE it is.

Handguard - Magpul MOE. These just plain work for me; the shape is hand filling, they're light and rock solid. The only real deficiency they have was just addressed by IWC with their new QD socket that is an easy install into the MOE.

Slinging - Boonie Packer 2-TQA converted to a 1/2 point using an IWC 221 triglide, a Noveske QD end plate and a IWC QD socket in the MOE. This makes a great, versatile slinging rig that I'm very happy with. IWC's stuff was what it took to get me to move away from HK hooks for slinging.

The future - I still need a white light, I'm just waiting for IWC to finish up their new MOE mount for a G3 LED.

I also built a clone of this in a dedicated .22LR, I'll get that one written up here at some point!

(ETA - correction/omission)

Quentin

28 March 2011, 09:31

HD, beautiful rifle! And well thought out. I got the same upper from Smartgunner's sale last year and couldn't be happer with it. I also went with the MOE handguard so will have to look at that great QD mount you installed!

Stickman

28 March 2011, 09:57

Guys please try to remember, every firearm board has a picture thread. What makes this one different is the posters explaining WHY THEY SELECTED THE PARTS ON THE WEAPON.

Its not a generic pic thread or parts list. By posting what you selected and why, everyone else who reads it gains information that can help them down the road.

AMMOTECH

3 April 2011, 08:40

Complete BCM M4 14.5 w/pinned A2X

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/AMMOTECH/STA72912.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/AMMOTECH/STA72910.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/AMMOTECH/STA72917.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/AMMOTECH/STA72915.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/AMMOTECH/STA72879.jpg

Optic/Mount: Aimpoint CompML2 / ADM-68
BUIS: LaRue
Rail: DD Omega Rail 7.0
VFG: TangoDown Stubby Grip
Light: Streamlight TLR-3 (90 Lumens)
Stock: MAGPUL CTR
Grip: TangoDown
Sling: Blue Force Gear
Magazine: MAGPUL

This is not my first AR (it was an BM A2 back in 1998) but my main go to AR. I've sold off 2 uppers and a couple of different red dots to fund where I'm at now. (still have a basic BM M4 to use as a loner or back up; all the critical stuff was replaced with parts from LMT & DD)
I went with a complete factory BCM, the upper and lower were purchased about six months apart but it's all factory work. When I retired from the AF in '08 I was going to get a Colt 6920 but at the same time I started working for FN in Columbia,SC and decided not to go with the Colt.
The DD rails are a result of having used Yankee Hill and KAC rails. The DD fits my hand a lot better.
The light was picked because I was looking to save weight. It works fine as an inside light.
I've tried several different stocks over the years, LMT SOPMOD was a good one but was a bit heavy and I did not need the storage tubes. I had a Magpul CTR and sold it to buy the SOPMOD but later on I sold the LMT and went back to the CTR. [BD]
For the pistol grip I've used the basic A2,MOE,ERGO and now I find that my current grip fits the best.
Sling: I've always used a two-point version but never one that adjusted. When I changed my shooting style from target/ bench plinking to more of a combat style I needed the ability to quickly adjust the sling. The BFG fit the bill and did not bust my budget.

.

AMMOTECH

3 April 2011, 09:09

[crazy] Douple tap....

HeavyDuty

9 April 2011, 07:07

Here's the dedicated .22LR counterpart to my main carbine. All is the same as with the 5.56 midlength with the following exceptions:

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/HDF62/AGP-22-7.jpg

Upper and rimfire specific items - a Spike's dedicated BCG (not a conversion) on a custom Ballistic Advantage 16" 1:16 twist barrel set up as a midlength. I'm also using CMMG's last round bolt hold open kit and magazines to mimic the standard AR manual of arms. The lower is custom marked for .22LR, a personal preference.
Receiver extension - no need for an A5 so just used a normal Milspec RE.
Charging handle - standard AR, I didn't see any benefit in using the more expensive BCM on this. I don't use an oversized latch so they feel substantially the same.
LPK - still RRA but with a round DMPS hammer substituted.
Muzzle device - a plain old A2, no need for the more expensive Micor here.
RDS - a Primary Arms M3 clone and a generic rubber cover instead of an ML-3 in the same ADM mount used on the 5.56.
It feels and operates substantially the same as its big brother and will allow me lower cost training and more pleasant indoor winter shooting.

After I completed my railed carbine build (described and updated above) I decided I wanted a simpler 16" to be my main go-to AR. It's finally done:

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/HDF62/IWCQD6.jpg

The whats and whys (some of this is repeated from my earlier build):

Lower receiver - AGP Arms with a RRA LPK and a Vltor A5 receiver extension. I've had great luck with several builds on AGP lowers; everything is in tolerance and well finished. RRA LPKs aren't sexy but they work for me. This is my first build using a Vltor A5 RE and buffer - the advantages seem obvious, so I thought it was time to give one a try. I'm using the standard weight buffer that comes with their kit.

Complete barreled upper receiver less BCG and charging handle - Daniel Defense via Smartgunner. It's a 16" 1:7 CHF chrome lined midlength pencil - typical great DD quality. I went lightweight with this one because, well... it's lightweight. Muzzle device is a Micor 1N7, I prefer closed end devices and wanted to give this one a try.

BCG and charging handle - BCM FA with a Mod 5 Gunfighter. I consider BCM's BCGs to be the gold standard and really like their small latch charging handle - it doesn't stick me in my pony keg abs when slung.

Magazines - my actively used magazines are all Magpul Maglevel PMAGs. I do have a pile of USGI 20 and 30 rounders, but the Magpuls have always functioned 100% for me.

Iron Sights - a "F" FSB with a Hahn Precision rear BUIS. I prefer a pinned front sight base for durability and simplicity on "serious" rifles and carbines. I've owned several different rear BUIS over the years and handled a whole lot more, and most of them are IMO too complex for a BUIS. I wanted a simple folding rear that was low profile, low parts count and durable. The Hahn meets my needs perfectly - it mounts up solid, has a sturdy aperture stalk and is almost impossible to inadvertently change zero because it uses an A1 windage drum.

RDS - Aimpoint ML-3 (2 MOA) in a ADM AD-68 absolute cowitness mount. Aimpoints are durable like a hammer; I prefer the smaller 2 MOA dot instead of the 4 MOA. I chose an M series over a T-1 because I want flipup covers and the protective jacket. I'm not a fan of lower 1/3 cowitness which is why I went with the ADM - it's proving to be a very nice mount.

Buttstock - ACS buttstock with enhanced buttpad. ACS is pretty much my default stock - I like the cheekweld, it balances well for me since I prefer slightly butt-heavy balance and (with the enhanced buttpad) is just about the perfect length for me two clicks out in shirtsleeves or one click out in a chore coat. The ACS does fully collapse on the longer Vltor A5 RE, too. There's a broken cartridge removal tool, an A1 rear sight tool and a A2 front sight tool stashed in the hinged compartment plus extra foam earplugs in the tubes. This build has two sets of purses and heels - FDE for fall and winter, Foliage for spring and summer.

Pistol grip - Magpul MOE. Magpul's PG shape works well for me after years of using Hogue PGs; I have tried TD and Ergo PGs but prefer the MOE/MIAD shape. MIAD has features I don't need, so MOE it is.

Handguard - Magpul MOE. These just plain work for me; the shape is hand filling, they're light and rock solid. The only real deficiency they have was just addressed by IWC with their new QD socket that is an easy install into the MOE.

Slinging - Boonie Packer 2-TQA converted to a 1/2 point using an IWC 221 triglide, a Noveske QD end plate and a IWC QD socket in the MOE. This makes a great, versatile slinging rig that I'm very happy with. IWC's stuff was what it took to get me to move away from HK hooks for slinging.

The future - I still need a white light, I'm just waiting for IWC to finish up their new MOE mount for a G3 LED.

I also built a clone of this in a dedicated .22LR, I'll get that one written up here at some point!

(ETA - correction/omission)

Hatter

23 April 2011, 20:42

LMT Piston MRP Defender 2000
LMT SOPMOD Stock
Magpul MIAD, ASAP, BAD, XTM's, AFG2, Trigger guard, and MS2 Sling (not shown)
Leupold CQ/T Scope with ARMS mount
Troy tritium dioptic BUIS
KAC Triple Tap brake
Gear Scout offset mount with Surefire E2DL (not shown)

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n638/MdHatter/LMT/DSCN0284.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n638/MdHatter/LMT/DSCN0285.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n638/MdHatter/LMT/DSCN0286.jpg

Everything on this rifle was chosen as my all purpose, go to gun for reliability and robustness. The Leupold scope is a great optic with the exception of the weight. I have used the rifle for 3 gun and general drills and have the ability to quickly acquire close targets and range out to about 250 yards. The KAC brake was a HUGE improvement over the PWS I originally installed.

ETA: The AFG2 is on order right now. Originally the AFG1 had interference with the XTM panels on the MRP system. I ground down the XTM's to clear the front portion of the AFG.

GTIdentity

26 April 2011, 12:59

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac136/GTIdentity/IMG_0139.jpg

Here is my most recent build. I wanted to build a solid multi-tasker carbine with some specific properties. It’s based on a light weight, practical, accurate, cost effective “but” quality component build. I was really set on the whole lightweight thing!

Starting with the business end and running down to the stock:

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac136/GTIdentity/IMG_0121.jpg

Muzzle device: Rainer Arms XTC. A good compromise of a compensator and flash hider. I think it works great. The muzzle flip is almost non-existent, without being completely annoying to the guy next to you, or to yourself for that matter. As for flash hiding, I have no meaningful opinion.

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac136/GTIdentity/IMG_0122.jpg

Barrel: Daniel Defense, lightweight, 16” mid length gas system. Cold hammer forged, chrome lined, 1:7 twist, 5.56 Comes with the DD low profile gas block. Very nice! You can’t go wrong with DD I think. I like the profile and weight, and its accuracy seems to be very good, more range time will tell. Favorite thing to eat: omnivore.

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac136/GTIdentity/IMG_0125.jpg

Rail: Daniel Defense (again) Lite 10”. I was originally looking at the Omega 9”, but for toughness’ sake I had to cover the gas tube/block interface completely. I really like the feel of it in my hand and the assembly couldn’t have been easier. Nice and solid!

Rail Covers: Magpul XT on the sides with ladders on the top and bottom. Very comfortable. I like the simplicity of the XTs. They fit well and offer the right length of coverage. KISS!

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac136/GTIdentity/IMG_0134.jpg

Upper Receiver: BCM, A tough decision here, there are so many nice uppers these days. One of my main concerns here is cost. I didn’t want to cheap out, But I still kept away from the high end. I’m making a workhorse here, so I went with BCM upper receiver with their BCG (auto). It’s all mil-spec and tough. The BC has a bit higher mass than the equivalent semi BC and I wanted to see how it effected the cycle pulse and felt recoil. The charging handle is BCM/VLTOR.

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac136/GTIdentity/IMG_0130.jpg

Lower Receiver: Smith&Wesson, M&P-15. For the most part, a lower (stripped) is a lower is a lower. I went with the M&P because it is a mid priced, good quality lower that was readily available at my local gun shop. I’m in California, so I try to make my life easier. Mates well with the upper, with only a tiny bit of looseness. I have used Stag15s on previous builds.

As for the LPK, I went with the RRA NM 2-stage. I just like the feel of it. And I have it on my sniper rig. Oversized selector switch, cause I hate the std. little ones! ERGO Sure-Grip, very comfortable. We have the obligatory “bullet button”, and I though I would try the Magpul B.A.D. I find I really like it a lot! Standard carbine spring with an H2 buffer, nothing fancy.

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac136/GTIdentity/IMG_0140.jpg

Stock: Magpul CTR. I like this stock as opposed to a the little club foot types, it is light and tough. Put it on a six position tube and its just right.

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac136/GTIdentity/IMG_0144.jpg

Sight(s): Primary is the Eotech XPS1. I went back and forth on L3 vs. Aimpoint. I greatly prefer the open HUD format, so when I ran into a guy with a new Eotech for $350.00 I jumped on it. Now the single dot reticle may not be the most widely chosen option, but I am liking the simplicity of the sight picture. The unit is small and light, and tight to the weapon. Back-ups are the Magpul Gen-I BUS. Polymer light, and tough enough for my use, and co-witness.

This thing is fun to shoot. I can't wait for my first carbine class in October! [:D]

smoothdraw

4 May 2011, 20:15

I just got back my rifle from Noveske for fluting my 18" SPR barrel to remove 8 oz of weight. This is to make the rifle more balanced and easier to maneuver.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/nokiarnp/DSC_3205.jpg

This was built as a dedicated 3-gun rifle.

Base gun is Noveske 18" Rogue hunter. http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=18rh-556&cat=124&page=1&search=&since=&status=

- replaced the flash hider with SJC titan to really control muzzle rise.
- installed the noveske K9 for support when shooting from barricades.
- fluted the SPR barrel to bring it to 30oz while making the barrel to cool faster with greater surface area.
- replaced the upper to the more rigid Vltor MUR.
- replaced the trigger to the ultra fast and soft Geisselle S3G
- replaced the grip to magpul MIAD that feels much better to the way i grip.
- replaced the stock to the heavier Vltor Emod.
- replaced spring/extension tube the more reliable Vltor A5.
- replaced the charging handle to the smoother and more reliable BCM gunfighter.
- installed Trijicon accupoint TR-24R with cat tail for faster magnification change. 1X is true so i can open both eyes. It's like aimpoint at 1X. Good value with decent glass.
- scope is on a Larue SPR-E mount to enable to put the accupoint which has extended eye relief.

With all of these crap in my 3 gun [:D] total weight is still acceptable 9.2 lbs unloaded and is now more balanced. Being Noveske, this is a helluv a gun. It's uber accurate and reliable. I can use 77gr match ammo for long distance while i can use 55gr ball on normal stages. Being 18" it is not hard to reach the required power factor in 3 gun matches.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/nokiarnp/DSC_3206.jpg

PuppY_Kick3R

4 May 2011, 21:38

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5228/5689383954_e69a6e9ed8_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumb5150/5689383954/)
Jumbo's AR 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumb5150/5689383954/) by jumb5150 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jumb5150/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5266/5688813083_298701faa1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumb5150/5688813083/)
Jumbo's AR 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumb5150/5688813083/) by jumb5150 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jumb5150/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5689384010_89641055c9_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumb5150/5689384010/)
Jumbo's AR 3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumb5150/5689384010/) by jumb5150 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jumb5150/), on Flickr

Here is my very 1st AR build. The upper and lower were all put together by me. I thought it would take about a year to build. I guess I got a little carried away and finished the rifle in about half the time. Can you blame me? I had a damn great time learning how to build and also teaching my friends on how to build their own. My goal was to build a lightweight tactical carbine. She weighs in at 7lbs 3oz. without optic. Im planning on picking up an Aimpoint PRO mainly because of Aimpoint’s reliability, performance and price.

Specs
5.56
16” Midlength
Weight: 7lbs 30z.

Parts
Spikes upper and lower Recievers
RRA Lower Parts Kit
Magpul Furniture
Magpul BAD Lever
STAG ambi Safety
Heavy Buffer
BCM Charging Handle
LMT AR-15 BCG
Centurion Arms 16” Midlength Barrel Double Chrome Lined CHF
Spikes 13.2” SAR Rail
YHM Gas Block
Battlecomp 2.0
BCM BUIS (TROY Ind.)

TripleBravo

5 May 2011, 04:50

Great job, Jumbo!...It looks great!

PuppY_Kick3R

5 May 2011, 12:37

Great job, Jumbo!...It looks great!

Thx Triple B!!! I was about to email you some pics but i guess you already seen it. I've shot her and I love her. Im sure glad I went with your advice about the SAR Rail.

Stickman

5 May 2011, 19:14

PuppY_Kick3R

5 May 2011, 22:35

Please remember this is a thread to explain WHY you went with your selected components. Its nice to see the parts listed, but the purpose of the thread is to understand why you went with them.

It most certainly isn't just a picture thread.

Sorry bout that. I thought I put down enough info. Well, I selected these components because I wanted a more tactical yet practical use AR. Also, I wanted something that looked "beefy" yet light hence the 13.2" SAR rail. I went with Spikes upper and lower since there were alot of good reviews about their products and they seem to be up to par with the mid/high end stuff but with good prices like BCM. This is my 1st build and what I really wanted out of it is the experience of building an AR from top to bottom or in this case the other way around.

GriffonSec

7 May 2011, 17:50

I've had this built for a while, but I wanted to get a bit of range time and a get the round count upward of 1k before I posted the what's and why's. Most of the reason was to validate the "why's" for myself first.

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/griffonsec/side-2Edited.jpg

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/griffonsec/side-1Edited.jpg

Form 1 Noveske lower 8.5" 6.8spc. First, I'll explain the caliber choice and go from there. I've wanted a short barreled platform for quite sometime, but could not justify the 5.56 based on practical use due to poor ballistic performance of the round from shorter barrels. I needed a "property" gun that could cover up to 300 yds of open area, and the research led me to 6.8.

Barrel: Noveske 8.5" 6.8spc with their NM Mod0 chamering. I don't think anyone will question accuracy or reliability of Noveske's SS barrels. 5 different people this past weekend, chrono-ing off a bench near 250 rds at approximately 100 yds produced a 3" ragged hole. Color me pleased.

BattleComp BABC: I bought into the intial hype when released, and the hype is well deserved. Sights stay on target, tolerable blast (yet still loud, it is an SBR). In my particular application, every 5 rounds or so, it does tend to "flash out" excess power, much more noticeable in low light than bright day. Great product and does what they claim, and I push it on my friends and coworkers.

Rail: DD Lite 7.0. I'm a fan of the DD Lite series of rails due to the way of attachment to the upper receiver. Next best thing to a monolithic upper, personal opinion. Tango Down SCAR panels on the sides to keep the rail as thin as possible and the texturing is great when wearing gloves or having sweaty palms. Magpul AFG (stippled) used in conjunction with Gear Sector's handstop make for a comfortable handhold for me, and what feels to be a more natural position. Gear Sectors QD attachment for the foward sling mount.

Sights: Magpul MBUS. These are GEN 1, if that matters, but I do like the profile of the sights, and I believe they'll hold up to most anything you can throw at them. If you've messed with the MBUS sights, you'll know the front sight post and pin can be a pain, I swapped the front sight post out for KNS ball front sight post from their "variety pack". This is the largest diameter, and makes taget acquisition a bit quicker than the standard post for me. Others who have shot it with irons appreciate the "dot" as well.

Optic: Aimpoint H1. Not having night vision kept me from spending the extra on the T1. My first RDS which is still taking a bit to get used to. I have to remember when doing standard range shooting, it's not precision and I have a tendency to chase the dot around. However, multiple targets in an active shooter type situation, I really enjoy how quick the RDS aids in picking up targets. With it's compact size, I wasn't sure I'd be able to run "both eyes open", but after our makeshift excersize this past weekend, it was very quick and easy to use. I'm in love with it. It's sets in an ADM mount with SOCOM riser for absolute cowitness (personal preference). I like the ADM mounting over the Larue, again, mostly personal preference. Holds zero after removal.

Upper Receiver: Rainer Arms. Picked up on the WEVO special a while back, I put it to use in this build. Houses the supplied headspaced Noveske 6.8 bolt, and backed it up with Noveske's auto carrier. Charging handle is a Noveske marked BCM gunfighter with medium latch, which I really like. I can use the heel of my hand or hook my finger and yank, no concerns that the handle will fail.

Lower Receiver: Noveske N4 lower, on a Form 1. LPK from G&R Tactical consisted of a couple of LMT marked parts, trigger is a Geisele SSA. I've heard a number of great reviews on the feel of this trigger, and I still have mixed feeling about it. Clean break, but not exactly what I've been used to, but you know exactly where the break will happen, and very positive reset. I like it, but it's different than what I'm used to. KNS pins were chosen simply due to the fact that it is a 6.8 on a pistol gas system. I've read and understand the arguments with regards to the KNS pins, and I'll agree, for the most part, most likely unecessary, but on this build, I felt it could be a bit of insurance. Magpul's enhanced triggerguard with standard MOE grip for overall feel. Very comfortable combination. BAD lever was chosen because I like the ease of manipulation on magazine changes.

Stock: Vltor I-Mod on the AR-10 extention, with A5 6oz buffer and standard rifle spring. The I-mod is my ideal stock. I get the same sight picture each time I bring the rifle up. The E-Mod would have been unecessary weight on the SBR, and the Magpul ACS stock creates a pressure point in my jawline that makes me want to throw it downrange. I chose the A5 system NOT for the reduction in felt recoil but for the possibility of enhanced reliability the original rifle system brings to the compact carbine build. The smoothness when shooting I believe is a nice by-product of the design. All my future builds will include the A5 style extention. The Magpul ASAP plate has been removed in lieu of Noveske's QD endplate. This was due to a change in sling choice.

Extras: Sling is now a Gear Sector 2 point with QD. I had the SKD pig "drop slider" single point, but when going to a supported knee position after transitioning to a pistol stuck the muzzle in the dirt each and every time. I pulled the pad from the PIG sling, and put it on the GS 2pt. After working with the rifle this past weekend, I really enjoy the stability the 2pt brings to the weapon when firing. I should have done that in the first place. Light is a TLR-1 from streamlight. Compact, great lighting and makes a great weapon light, but not my ideal light. That I'm still searching for, so this will do for now. I run C-Products magazines for now with Magpul tabs. The tabs will be color coded as I've chosen two different rounds for two different purposes, and the tabs will aid in ID. The rail, upper and lower receivers have been refinished in Black Norrel's Molyresin. Not my intention for a safe queen, but I can't stand how upper receivers nearly ever match the lower.

Right a round the 1k mark with only one cleaning at about 300rds. No issues in any way with any weight bullet, I couldn't be happier with the outcome, and based on chrono times, I'm just about at my 300yd open area coverage requirements (SSA 85gr) in the compact package I've always wanted.

Since this was a Form 1 build I'm most likely stuck with, I wanted to do a couple things to "make it mine". Acquaintance Steve Morrision of MARS Armament was kind enough to properly 'golf ball' treat the front magwell for me. Strictly for S&G's, I really like what he did, Steve's a heck of guy and hell of a pistolsmith.

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/griffonsec/marsmagwell.jpg

Pardon some of the comments. There's group of us trying to learn new things, so if there's any critiques, shoot them to me in a PM. I've already caught myself a few times. A condensed version of some of the shooting and chrono-ing we did last weekend, and me running the SBR through our makeshift "course".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDU-nXBr62g

TripleBravo

7 May 2011, 19:56

Nice SBR and nice right up, GriffonSec.

Quib

7 May 2011, 20:01

Nice SBR and nice right up, GriffonSec.

+1 I agree, well done!

GriffonSec

7 May 2011, 20:22

Thanks guys. WEVO's been a good resource for choosing the right part for the right job and glad to give a smidge back.

lmtrocks

7 May 2011, 21:58

I had been an owner of a very accurate 20" 6.5 Grendel since 2009. I just didn't like the weight of it. So, I chose to modify the setup in hopes of keeping similar ballistic performance but make it much more maneuverable due to my new SBR addiction. I really felt that a 20" upper was entirely too much for my needs. So I sold it. What I built afterwards I'm very pleased with in terms of weight and maneuverability although it has not had range time. Maybe next Friday or Sunday...

I chose the JPVTAC rifle length forearm for modularity, having rails where I wanted them and none where I didn't. This kept the profile down and functionality good. I would've ultimiately chosen the Troy TRX VTAC 11" but I had this forearm and decided it was worth keeping. The 2" picatinny rail on the bottom will be used for a not pictured Magpul MVG as I have no plans to stick a Larue FUG or TD stubby on this weapon.

The barrel was a 6.5 Grendel forum fundraiser barrel with a midlength gas system and was bead blasted. .730 profile under the HGs would keep it lighter while the midlength gas system would also remain under the handguards for protection from bumping. I have not ordered a pinning jig for it yet, but it will be pinned in the near future.

Optic:
Vortex Optics 4-16x50 mildot
Scott at Liberty Optics had a deal on these in 2009 for $200 shipped. We talked a bit about it and I wanted to have an optic that would allow me to shoot my Grendel if I had a range by which I could find it's capabilities. My range goes to 300yds so it's not really stretching it's legs at that distance but the optic does more than I need it to at that distance.

Lower:
Essential Arms with SOPMOD stock, Ergo, MOE triggerguard, and JP reduced power trigger springs. Not quite a NM trigger but for $10 in springs and some polishing I'm happy with the result. The SOPMOD allows me to keep 16" Grendel ballistic charts in it for reference in varying bullet weights, yardages...and a super comfy cheek weld [:D] The Ergo pistol grip also spoiled me since my first AR was a LMT SOPMOD 16....

http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn346/gunguyshots/16inchSSGrendel.jpg

Uglyduck

11 May 2011, 14:47

Lightweight GP Carbine

Build Philosophy
My previous upper was designed around competition and I outgrew it as my needs changed. The barrel and hanguard made the rifle heavy and unbalanced. The muzzle break was deafening and only ideal on a competition stage. I decided it no longer suited my evolving needs and set out to design a GP carbine better suited to my uses. I desired a carbine that was lightweight, durable, and dependable and used those ideas to drive the design. The upper is a DDM4V5 LW with a VTAC handguard and was assembled by Daniel Defense. This will be used in home defense, training, competition, or any situation that finds it as the tool of choice.

Specs 6.2lbs as shown, unloaded.

Upper
Barrel - Daniel Defense 16" Lightweight profile, Cold Hammer Forged - Weight savings and CHF durability
Gas System - Midlength, pinned gas block - pinned for durability
Upper Reciever - Daniel Defense M4
Handguard - VTAC 11" Battle rail - Lightweight and I can add rails where needed, also compatible with IWC accessories
Bolt Carrier Group - Daniel Defense M16
Charging Handle - Bravo Company Gunfighter Mod 4 - Improved durability and easier manipulation

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii318/uglyfireduck/P1010001-6-2.jpg

Muzzle Device - Battlcomp 2.0 - Excellent muzzle control properties and because I won it on WEVO
Optics - MBUS Gen 1 - lightweight and inexpensive

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii318/uglyfireduck/P1010004-3-1.jpg

Lower
Reciever - Tactical Innovations T15BDX - No particular good reason
LPK - Daniel Defense
Trigger - Rock River 2 stage - Thought it was a good idea at the time
Stock - Magpul MOE - Lightweight and inexpensive

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii318/uglyfireduck/P1010006-4-2.jpg

The Future
Aimpoint T-1 on DD Mount - Lightweight, long battery life, durability
Ares Armor Huskey Amentum Sling (http://www.aresarmor.com/install/ecom-prodshow/aahuskey2pt.html) - Easy to adjust and large index point
Impact Weapon Components - Surefire G2 light mount and QD sling attachment
Surefire G2X - Inexpensive 200 lumen light w/acceptable battery life
Geissele SSA 2 stage trigger - Dependable fire control group

Notes
The lower receiver will now get the bulk of my attention as I'm not satisfied that it achieves my desired goals. I've also considered switching to the AXTS ADAC-F (https://www.axtsweapons.com/products/A-DAC-F) for its integrated bolt catch and possible weight savings (although minor). I also need to add a QD socket to the stock or buy one with it. The RRA 2 stage will likely be the next thing to go in favor of the SSA and was purchased years ago without due research. A standard GI trigger may be in place while waiting for the SSA. I've also considered a TA33G-H in leu of the T-1 but will hold reservations until I get a chance to use one.

Quib

11 May 2011, 17:57

Good to see you tracked down your BattleComp!

Uglyduck

11 May 2011, 20:51

Thank you. Battlecomp actually took care of me, can't say enough about their service!

TripleBravo

11 May 2011, 22:01

Uglyduck,

How do you like the 11" VTAC battle rail, and did you choose that specific length for a reason....ie, does its length work idealy for your shooting style?

Thanks...and great looking set up.

Uglyduck

12 May 2011, 08:20

Its a great rail, very versatile and light. I originally thought the 13" would be the way to go since I had a JP/VTAC handguard and they're 12.5" long. I took note of where my week hand grip naturally landed on the JP and decided the 11" would be perfect and allow me to save a little more weight. Either way, I wanted something that covered the gas block on a midlength gas system that wasn't a full quad rail. I don't need many accessories so the unused rails would be adding unnecessary weight and I would likely add covers (more weight) and end up in the same place as the Battlerail. The fact that IWC makes accessories that mount directly to the handguard without a rail also played a factor in choosing it. Their ideas just make sense to me. I'm pleased with the diameter as well. Its narrow, allowing your support hand to be closer to the barrel which gives the feel (illusion?) of more control. The slots on the VTAC make for a comfortable grip too. As you can see, a lot of thought went into selecting this handguard. More than I thought actually.

Quib

14 May 2011, 06:46

After reading several comments about extended rails providing for a better reach further out on the weapon, I elected to cut-down my FSB and replace my KAC RAS with the new Centurion Arms C4-10" Rail. I'm playing around now with ideas on rail panels or rail ladders.

I do like how thin the C4 Rails are compared to other rails I've had the opportunity to examine or own, so I'm leaning hard towards rail ladders to take advantage of the C4's thin design without adding the width that panels often do.

A Gen2 black MBUS is on the slate as well, the FDE Gen1 is a temporary install.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/5718259651_bc5ffb27eb_o.jpg

hwaya

16 May 2011, 16:31

Goal was to make an AR with the essentials: sights, grip, sling and light. The VTAC rail was a perfect selection, as you can see, I don't use much rail at all. I was never a fan of the thickness of rail panels covering unused rail.

Specs:
BCM 16" BFH barrel upper w/ standard birdcage flashhider
VTAC Troy TRX extreme rail 13"
VTAC E2D in light mount
LMT Irons
Aimpoint H1 on Larue mount
Tango Down stubby QD grip
VTAC sling
PRI latch charging handle
Kaiser Defense Lower w/ Vltor Stock
Magpul MOE grip

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8141/img5581ti.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3407/img5586kd.jpg

chazthebiker

17 May 2011, 19:09

Well, I have finally learned how to post a pic so I can finally reply to this thread.

My first "assembly" is pictured below (June 2010). Like others here, I am sure, I started out thinking that putting a rifle together myself would allow me to become an AR owner on the cheap. It didn't turn out that way. The first rendition of that first rifle is as follows:
1. Mega Billet Upper / Lower Matched Set

I wanted a billet upper and lower simply for asthetic purposes. I considered several brands, including Sun Devil, and even considered a Titanium set until I saw the price was in the thousands of dollars for the Titanium upper / lower set. Should I ever win the lottery, I'll go for it. Otherwise, NO WAY!

2. Spike's Tactical Enhanced LPK

I actually purchased a stainless steel LPK online. It was horrible. The parts were rough and the bolt catch was bent and useless. Seriously, the pins in the kit looked like they had the ends ground on a bench grinder. The company I purchased from sent a new bolt catch. Then the function check failed (disconnector not releasing hammer). I then ordered a kit from Armalite... same problem. This was all tied to the safety selector and trigger somehow and everyone kept telling me to buy selectors until I found one that worked. It was driving me nuts. Something was out of spec. I drove down to Spike's Tactical in Apopka, Florida and purchased their Enhanced LPK. The kit is pricey for sure ($149), but you know what? Eveything looks professionally produced, pristine, and it worked first try. It was worth the extra money and I will never buy an LPK from anyone else.

3. Noveske Recon 16" Stainless Steel Barrel 1:7 Twist 5.56mm

This was a hard decision. I only get to see my rifles a week or two out of each year because of my work. Florida has high humidity and there would not be anyone around to oil up my weapons while I am gone. I always try to purchase stainless hand guns for that reason. It made sense to buy a stainless steel barrel for the same reason. I chose Noveske because of the product's reputation for accuracy.

4. Larue 13" Quad Rail

This decision is one I wish I had not made. The product is great. No doubt about it. At the time I made this decision I had been reading what folks said on another website. These folks were rabid fans of Larue's products. In fact, some of them are quite irrational fans. Question anything about Larue and they act as though they caught you sleeping with both their mother and their little sister at the same time. They have even named themselves "Pack Larue". Guys, the rail system does not work with the Mega Machine Shop Billet uppers. That isn't a problem because there are other choices. However, Larue is aware of this and does not state the fact in the product description. Since I am only home a few weeks a year I had a real disappointment with this when I did get home and start assembling my rifle. Yeah, I could have returned it. That is not the point to me. To me, Larue should put this fact in the product description. I have since switched to a Mega Monolithic Upper on this rifle and used the Larue rail on a forged Noveske set where it works great. I do not, however, like the gap the Larue rail leaves between the upper receiver rail and the forend rail.

5. Larue Tactical M16 BCG (yeah, I know)

What can I say, I had not read "The Chart" yet.

6. Magpul UBR Stock

Heavy duty looking, and that is what I like about it.

7. Larue Heavy Duty Chrome Silicon Buffer Spring

Seems to be a very good spring and I have purchased two more. Is it better than the $5 springs? Heck, I have no idea but would love to hear from others concerning this.

8. Magpul Miad Pistol Grip

I read lots of good reviews.

9. Rainier Arms XTreme Compensator

I like the way it looks, read some good reviews too. It is loud as heck though! Guys at the range complained about the bark so I have replaced it with a cheap flash hider for now.

10. Mega Tactical Trigger

To be honest, this was a brand new product at the time. What do I like best about it? The heavy, beefy look and the holes drilled in it. I may switch to a Timney one day.

11. Troy Folding Battle Sights

These have a very good reputation. After getting them I could see why. They are very well made.

12. XTM Panels

I like the idea of being able to switch around colors for a camo look.

13. Mega Billet Charging Handle

Matches the upper and lower.

14. Standard Buffer

Have switched to an H buffer.

15. Magpul P-Mags

Reputation and the way they look. Mine have functioned flawlessly.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/chazthebiker/Weapons/Copyofrifle1.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/chazthebiker/Weapons/Copyofrifle3.jpg

Now, the problems:
1. The Larue rail DOES NOT WORK with the Mega Billet setup. Yeah, it goes on but the keeper does not fit properly. In fact, the keeper doesn't fit at all. This makes it extremely difficult to line things up or assure no rotation of the handguard as you use it. My solution was to go with a Mega Monolithic upper. The result is below:

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/chazthebiker/IMG_2933.jpg

The Monolithic setup looks very clean to me.

chazthebiker

17 May 2011, 19:22

After the trading out the Larue handguard for a Mega Monolithic upper on my first assembly I had to find something to do with the Larue handguard. This time I assembled:

1. Noveske Upper / Lower forged matched set.

Noveske barrels have a stellar reputation so I went with their forged upper / lower matched set from Rainier Arms for this build

2. WOA 18" Stainless Barrel in 6.8 SPC

I use Rainier Arms almost exclusively for my parts and did not see a Noveske barrel listed in 6.8 SPC so I purchased this White Oak Armament Barrel. I thought Noveske wassn't making a barrel in 6.8. I was wrong. See what happens when you get in a hurry? I am, though, very happy with the performance of this WOA barrel. No regrets here.

3. Spike's Tactical M16 BCG (6.8 Bolt)

Spike's is good stuff.

4. Salor's Machine 6.8 SPC Flash Hider

It was on clearance and very inexpensive. It works just fine!

5. Magpul ACS Stock

This is a good stock and more than $100 cheaper than the UBR. However, I like the UBR better and have since switched to it.

6. Standard Buffer

This has been replaced with an H2 buffer.

7. Heavy Duty Chrome Silicon Spring from Laue Tactical

I really like and trust this spring from Larue, though I would like thoughts from others as to whether or not it is really better then the $5 springs you see being sold.

8. Larue Tactical 13" Quadrail

This rail is the whole purpose of the build. It didn't fit the Mega Billet upper so had to use it here. It is a very nice rail, but I have come to dislike (detest) that gap the attachment method leaves between the rail and upper receiver along the top of the weapon.

9. Spike's Tactical Enhanced LPK with Ergo Grip

The Spike's Tactical Enhanced LPK is superior quality parts compared to the other LPK's I have tried.

10. Barrett 6.8 SPC Magazines

Better reputation than C-Products and PRI had at the time. Magpul does not yet manufacture a 6.8 SPC magazine.

11. Troy Industries fixed iron sights (YUCK!)

They work. Just hate that they don't fold. This will be changed.

12. WOA Charging handle (forged)

Gets the job done and the price was right.

The Troy fixed sights are temporary. Of Course, the Larue handguard fit the Noveske forged parts just fine. I also got the alignment tool from Brownells and it made things real easy and perfect. I would have gone with a Noveske 6.8 SPC barrel, but had no idea they even made one until after the job was done. On the other hand, I am extremely happy with the WOA barrel. It just would have been nice (in my opinion) to have a Noveske barrel with the Noveske upper / lower.

I have a UBR stock to replace the ACS stock. I think the UBR will balance better. I think the UBR looks better than the ACS too. The ACS is a nice stock though and I will use it in a KISS build down the road.

Have all the parts for a third rifle in 5.56mm, just need to get home one of these days to put it together. It will be just like the first 5.56, except with an LMT M16 BCG instead of the Larue BCG.

The 6.8 is the top rifle in the photo below:

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/chazthebiker/Weapons/IMG_2689.jpg

exedotbat

21 May 2011, 06:23

This was my attempt to put together a AR that would be legal in NJ, yet gives me the freedom to change things down the road.

My main problems are I can't have a threaded barrel, flash hider, or collapsible stock.

One option was to have a brake pinned onto a barrel, but I tend to want to change things around. Having a pinned brake doesn't allow me to remove the gas block, rail, or barrel without having to cut the brake off. So that being the case I wanted to avoid having a threaded barrel all together, however non threaded barrel options in my opinion are pretty slim. As a result I ordered a White Oak Armament 18" SPR barrel with a mid length gas system. I then dropped the barrel off at my local gun smith and had him cut it down to 16" and crown it. The results are a good quality match barrel, that so far has been very accurate and reliable.

Moving forward I am running a Rainier Arms gas block, and Daniel Defense 10" Lite Rail. I went with a 10" Lite rail because it covered most of the gas block, gave me a continuous rail, and was one of the lighter one piece rails available. Everything is mated to a Rainier Arms upper and lower combo. I am very happy with the fit and finish, however I did notice that the finish does scratch a little bit easier than other lowers I have handled.

The upper is filled with a LMT Bolt Carrier Group, and BCM Large Latch Gunfighter charging handle.

The lower is filled with a JP Lower parts kit minus trigger group, and I am running a Rock River Arms 2 Stage Trigger group.
I went with this combo because it was a very cost effective way to run a 2 stage trigger. I am also running the BAD selector switch, and Miad Grip which was a leftover from another build.

The Stock assembly is a Magpul CTR which I ordered from Spikes, and includes their ST-T2 buffer. I pinned the stock in the 3rd position, and the CTR clamps down on the buffer tube so there is no play.

In the photo I am running my friends magpul mbus sights, but I am running Samson BUIS. So far I like them, however I had to get the rear one replaced because it kept popping up with recoil. Customer service was top notch and replaced with no questions asked. I just mounted them back up, so I will have to see how it holds up.

As for optics, I am running an Aimpoint PRO, I went with the PRO mainly because of the price point and features, and I am extremely happy with it so far.

Run Down of the specs

Rainier Arms Stripped Upper and Lower
WOA 18" SPR Barrel, Mid Length, 223 Wylde, 1/7 Twist
JP Lower Parts Kit (Without Trigger)
Rock River Arms 2 stage trigger
BAD Selector Switch (Standard / Short)
Magpul Miad Grip
BCM Gun Fighter Charging Handle Large
LMT Full Auto BCG
10" Daniel Defense Lite Rail
Magpul AFG
Magpul CTR Stock (Package from Spikes)
Samson BUIS
Aimpoint PRO
5.11 Sling (Hand me down)

http://www.aperturenj.com/MyPics/AR1med.jpg

chazthebiker

21 May 2011, 11:59

Here are a few more shots. I managed to rent a car and go home this weekend. While there, I went ahead and swapped out the ACS stock with the new UBR stock on the 6.8 rifle. Also, I removed the xtm panels.

If there is one bit of advice I could give the aspiring assembler it would be this; Take your time and get what you really want from the very beginning. Don't settle for anything else. On the 6.8 build I settled for the ACS stock and the Troy fixed sights. Let me first say that there is not a thing in the world wrong with these parts. They work and the price is right. I bought them, though, because I was in a rush to complete the rifle at a time when my cash flow was running low. Now I have ncurred extra expense replacing the ACS with the UBR I really wanted. I will incur further extra expense replacing the Troy fix sights with folding sights later. So what I am saying is, build your rifle to your liking and do not settle for something else just because you have to at the moment. There is no right or wrong on most parts choices, and there is such a variety of parts that you ought to be able to build exactly what is right for YOU and your needs. That is all that matters. My rifles are heavy. I like that. Yours will be what you like.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/chazthebiker/Weapons/IMG_2913.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/chazthebiker/Weapons/IMG_2914.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/chazthebiker/IMG_2925.jpg

Rusty_ Shackleford

24 May 2011, 17:56

This started out as a 6.5 Grendel build but after agonizing over the configuration options and factoring in ammo cost I come to realize I was going to end up with a $3500.00 safe queen because it is too expensive to shoot. So this build just kept getting set aside for other things and enough is enough! There are so many builds I want too do besides the CB build. Example, I want a all Daniel Defense rifle, a KISS rifle, a 14.5" middy and lets not forget the CB build but times are tough so compromise and consolidation are at work but it is a compromise I can live with........

[b]Upper:
Quentin Defense Billet Upper (Chatterbox Limited Edition)
DD CHF Govt. Profiled 14.5" Mid-Length
DD Omega X 9.0 Free Float Rail
DD A1.5 BUIS
DD Charging Handle
BCM BCG (will replace with DD when they are available again)
BCM A2X (pinned and welded)
Larue Index Clips
Surefire X300
Built by ADCO

Lower:
Quentin Defense Billet Lower (Chatterbox Limited Edition)
DD Lower Parts Kit
DD Receiver Extension
DD H Buffer and Spring
DD Single Point End Plate
Armalite Adjustable 2 Stage Trigger
Ergo Sure Grip
RRA Ambi-Star Safety (will be replacing with BAD ASS)
Magpul CTR (may replace with SOPMOD)
Magpul PMAG
Built By Rusty

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http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB_145_mid_length_9.jpg

chazthebiker

24 May 2011, 21:21

That is a good looking rifle Rusty! I especially like the name engraving on the dust cover. Good idea!

Rusty_ Shackleford

25 May 2011, 07:03

That is a good looking rifle Rusty! I especially like the name engraving on the dust cover. Good idea!

Thank you Sir! [:)]

Aragorn

25 May 2011, 14:15

Very very slick Rusty. I like the crescent moon styled cross hairs in particular :cool:

Rusty_ Shackleford

26 May 2011, 06:40

Very very slick Rusty. I like the crescent moon styled cross hairs in particular :cool:

Thanks! [:D]

Here are some additional photo's of the individual internal parts........

BCM Carrier Group (Unmarked Carrier):
http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB-15_BCM_BCG_2.jpg
http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB-15_BCM_BCG_1.jpg
http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB-15_BCM_BCG.jpg

Armalite 2 Stage Trigger:
http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB-15_Armalite_2_Stage_2.jpg
http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB-15_Armalite_2_Stage.jpg

DD H Buffer:
http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB-15_DD_H_BUFFER.jpg

Take Down Pin Captive Detent and Spring Mod:
http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB-15_Captive_Take_Down_Detent_Spring.jpg

Quib

1 June 2011, 18:35

Update from above: Swapped out the FDE GEN1 Front MBUS for a Black GEN2 and went with Ladder Rail Covers.

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xbmxracerx

1 June 2011, 19:13

Zombie go bag........

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/IMG02805-20110508-2206.jpg

Daniel Defense DDM4v3 : Trijicon RCO-M4CP ACOG w/ A.R.M.S. #19 LD mount : Bravo Company Gunfighter Mod 4 charging handle : Troy/Spike's rear BUIS : Spike's M16 BCG : Spike's ST-T2 buffer : Spike's billet trigger guard : Spike's forward grip : Battle Arms Development ambi safety : YHM 5C2 flash hider : Surefire M300A miniscout weapon light w/ SR-07 dual switch : Magpul B.A.D. lever : Magpul P-Mags w/ ranger plates : Magpul MOE stock w/ enhanced pad : Hogue pistol grip.......Kershaw/Daniel Defense knife.....

xbmxracerx

2 June 2011, 07:53

My Zombie go bag.........

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/IMG02805-20110508-2206.jpg

Specs:

Daniel Defense DDM4v3 : Trijicon RCO-M4CP ACOG w/ A.R.M.S. #19 LD mount : Bravo Company Gunfighter Mod 4 charging handle : Troy/Spike's rear BUIS : Spike's M16 BCG : Spike's ST-T2 buffer : Spike's billet trigger guard : Spike's forward grip : Battle Arms Development ambi safety : YHM 5C2 flash hider : Surefire M300A miniscout weapon light w/ SR-07 dual switch : Magpul B.A.D. lever : Magpul P-Mags w/ ranger plates : Magpul MOE stock w/ enhanced pad : Hogue pistol grip.......Kershaw/Daniel Defense knife.....

Koshinn

2 June 2011, 15:31

Update from above: Swapped out the FDE GEN1 Front MBUS for a Black GEN2 and went with Ladder Rail Covers.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5063/5783873015_7c36e6cd51_o.png

What magazine is that? Why not a CTR? What advantages do the MBUS gen2 have over gen1?

Koshinn

2 June 2011, 19:30

Theory - A relatively light weight SBR running a piston system. This failed, as Adams Arms complete uppers come with a thick barrel, a heavy rail, and of course a giant gas block, pushing the rifle to 8.5 lbs unloaded.

Noveske stripped lower receiver - Chose this because Noveske has a reputation for outstanding quality control and parts made to spec. They also have a great military discount. It’s expensive for a forged lower, but coming from a carbon-composite Bushmaster lower receiver, I figured a little extra money is worth it. And I like the roll mark.
Daniel Defense lower parts kit - You get what you pay for, and Daniel Defense is one of the premier AR manufacturers with a proven track record. This also comes with a Magpul MOE trigger guard. I ended up replacing most of this kit anyway, so I should've bought my LPK in pieces.
Noveske quick disconnect end plate - After having tried a Magpul CTR stock with sling mount at the back, I’ve decided I like the sling at the back of the lower receiver instead of on the stock, so this became a natural choice. After getting this, I was beginning to notice a trend with this build…
KNS anti-rotate pins - It’s a SBR lower, so while many people claim these don’t do anything, I also have heard stories of trigger or hammer pins breaking or walking, so this is cheap peace of mind. I don’t mind the looks, but whatever.
YHM EZ takedown pins - I don’t really have finger nails and the stock pins were really hard to get out, so I got these to take down my rifle without using a bullet to push in the pins. I store my rifle taken down, so I do this a bit more than a normal person I guess.
Magpul B.A.D. lever - I like the ergonomics having everything at my fingertips. Not shown in the picture; I just took it off to try without it.
Magpul MOE pistol grip - The notch in the stock grip doesn’t work well with my smaller hands, so this was much more comfortable. It also has a storage core.
Magpul MOE stock - As I wasn’t going to need the CTR for the rear sling quick disconnect socket and the friction clamp wasn’t badly needed, the MOE stock was a fine choice. It’s also one of the lightest stocks available, and the standard stock didn’t fit well with me.

Adams Arms 11.5” Tactical Elite complete upper receiver - I was sold on the Adams Arms piston system after doing research into a few other companies. I like how the Adams Arms system is simple and effective, with a lot of thought going into every aspect of the upper, except maybe the rail system. The Samson Mfg free float rail is much heavier than the equivalent Daniel Defense rail. 11.5” was chosen because it’s pretty much the perfect size for a SBR, and I did want an SBR.
Noveske (Vltor/BCM) Gunfighter charging handle - Charging handles break, these don’t break as easily using only the support hand to operate the charging handle. Also of note, it was slightly cheaper to buy the Noveske-branded version than the Vltor/BCM one.
Aimpoint T-1 - Light weight, durable, long battery life. I was having buyers remorse on getting the T-1 until I saw that Daniel Defense torture test video... now I think it was a smart buy.
Larue riser - Absolute co-witness, saves a little weight over the LT660. I run irons down.
Primary Arms 3x magnifier - Much cheaper than the equivalent Aimpoint or Eotech magnifier. I don't generally leave it on the weapon all the time, but that's why I spaced my T-1 the way I did. Also looking to get an American Defense flip to side mount.
Noveske (Troy) backup iron sights - They’re extremely common for a reason; they’re rock solid. Like the charging handle, it was cheaper to buy the Noveske branded version than the Troy one, and it conveniently went with my Noveske theme. I would’ve used Magpul backup sights, but the way the upper is made, I’d have to put them on the gas block, which gets very hot. This is also why the TLR-1 is not mounted at 12 o'clock.
Streamlight TLR-1 - It works. My pistol also uses the TLR-1, so I like the battery and part compatibility. It is also cheaper than a Surefire X300 for basically the same product.
Blue Force Tactical VCAS padded sling - I tried the Magpul MS2, but I thought it was too thin and I didn’t like the way the sling attached to the weapon. They pretty much want you to use their ASAP and RSA for their sling… but since my rail came with a sling attachment point and I got the Noveske end plate already, I decided to go with the VCAS. It’s also padded, which helps a lot, and I’d only use it as a 2-point sling anyway, so the MS2 wasn’t needed. It's not shown in the pictures.

Future:
Battlecomp 2.0... They're out of stock everywhere :(
Magpul Enhanced Rubber Butt-Pad
BADASS

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G19Man

3 June 2011, 18:20

Future:
Battlecomp 2.0... They're out of stock everywhere :(

Aim Surplus has the 2.0 in stock if you're interested
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XBC20Blk&name=Battle+Comp+2.0+Tactical+Compensator&groupid=54

Rusty_ Shackleford

4 June 2011, 05:13

Very nice!

smoothdraw

7 June 2011, 21:28

Evolution of my tactical 3-gun rifle. Now near perfect.

Stock were replaced with magpul PRS then Noveske 18" medium contour barrel fluted to get that balance to be able to maneuver the gun fast.
PRS for balance and for rifle stock system which is more reliable and softer shooting
Noveske barrel is selected for it's accuracy and reliability. 18" to ensure power factor. Fluted to make it lighter.
SJC muzzle break selected for maximum recoil control.
upper is Vltor MUR for extra upper strength
Grip is magpul MIAD to be able to custom fit to my hands
handguard is troy battle rail, thin and round for competition hold
Trigger is geissele S3G. Good and fast trigger. I like the super dynamic but not worth to upgrade yet the S3G
Optics is Trijicon accupoint TR24R. Simple reticle and decent glass for relative affordable price. I want to afford a S&B 1.1-8 someday.
Optics mount is Larue SPR-E which is needed for the Trijicon Accupoint (long eye relief)

I'm really happy now with the set-up of my rifle.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/nokiarnp/Noveske/DSC_3509.jpg

Rusty_ Shackleford

10 July 2011, 10:48

Spikes/BCM hybrid........[:)]

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Bwheeler

17 July 2011, 19:39

First Post! Long time reader...
It's been about 1 year since I started this rifle assembly, and I think it is getting very close. Thanks to sites like this one, I think I wasted a lot less money finding an excellent configuration than I would have without it. Not only is it more than sufficient for 3gun competition, I wouldn't have a problem staking my life on it. Great rifle! Thanks guys!

Here goes...

Lower: JP Enterprises w/ installed fire control (3.5# w/ red/yellow springs) - I prefer single stage triggers and for competition, this is likely the best deal out there. For sure, the best trigger I have ever felt in an AR IMHO. Lowers are a little bit more hassle here in CA. A local Gunshop will charge $50-75 extra just cause it is evil & black, so I got my FFL to order this. Any CA residents who want a 3 gun AR, I highly reccomend this route.

Upper & barrel: BCM 18" SS410 rifle gas - for my first AR, I wanted an already assembled upper receiver. BCM is one company I heard of after visiting this site, and I am glad I did. The profile is a little heavy, but it is more accurate than I am, especially with iron sights.

Bolt, BCG, charging handle: BCM Auto BCG completion kit and large gunfighter. No lightened stuff here. I have found time and again that the fastest runs I have had in competition are the ones where my gun doesn't jam or break! [:D]

Handguard: Viking Extreme 13" because I don't need the ability to hang stuff off the rails. Light, strong, great diameter & length for my support hand.

Reciever Extension & Stock: Vltor A5 and Emod. I took a chance with this one when it was first released and I am glad I did. I knew I wanted a rifle-type action spring, but I also thought that a collapsible stock would be nice to have too. This combines the two. After changing out the spring for a Tubb flat wire to get rid of SPROIIIING, I couldn't be happier.

Sights: I originally started out with the Daniel Defense fixed BUIS, but changed the rear to LMT for the A2 adjustments. After a while, I changed to front to a fixed FSB, and I think I like it much better. The front post is a KNS thin with the ball on top. Rear aperature is CSAT with the notch. Accurate and called hits 7 yrds to 200 yards on IPSC targets, offhand!

Muzzle device: Started with a JP Bennie Cooley comp, which was lod but effective. Due to this site, my shooting buddy got me a Battle Comp after his fillings were coming loose [BD]. I can hardly tell a difference, but it is there. Not bad, and well worth the competitive benefits (less dust, concussion, noise)

Grip & Misc: Ergo soft rubber, but I am still a little unsatisfied. I my try the MOE+ if/when it is released. Magpul BAD is nice. Prince50 mag catch is not (CA residents know what i'm talking about...)

Sling: VTAC makes an awesome sling. I also have one on my shotgun. HIGHLY reccomended. attached at the front with the VTAC swivel point.

Things I might still do: I would like the balance point to be a little further rearward, so I may at some point get the barrel fluted under the handguards, which would do the trick. I would like a different pistol grip, but that will come with time (and not a whole bunch of cash). Finally, I would like to move out of the PRK so that I could get rid of the Prince50 magazine catch! :o

And as of Friday, 1255 rounds and no failures of any kind. I think that might be a good sign....

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First layout, with my other two 3 Gun pieces...
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Mamba6

18 July 2011, 13:09

When I worked for Xeros Services as a US DoS PSD team leader we (operators) customized the M4s. I don't really have many pictures as we were more concerned about the job, but I did manage to dig this guy up....

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6001/5951362725_c6d409c712.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewpkern/5951362725/)
IMG_0001 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewpkern/5951362725/) by andrew.p.kern (http://www.flickr.com/people/andrewpkern/), on Flickr

Upper: Daniel Defense A4 upper with a DD 16" M4 profile CHF barrel. Also had a DD M4 mid-length rail system on it. The 16" barrel was finally decided on because we were operating in Afghanistan, and there was considerable performance decrease between the 16" and the 14.5" past 500m, which is where a considerable amount of engagements were occurring from. Nothing like taking DshK fire from 600m out. 9" rail gave us plenty of room for real estate, which some of us needed. Most of this stuff was company SOP.

Muzzle device: A2 flash hider, used for the quick detach Gemtech G5 suppressors we would occasionally run.

Lower: Spike's Tactical lower, with a Giessele SSF trigger, and a H buffer. The SSF trigger was a great trigger with a smooth pull and crisp break in full auto, and a light trigger on semi. It was pretty popular with everyone that I worked with although a few used Bushmaster FA parts. H buffer was to improve lock time, and increase accuracy. No idea who mfg'd it. It was pretty humorous when the lowers came in as they had ordered standard Spider lowers with bullet markings, but somehow the order had gotten mixed, and they all had the zombie and live/dead/undead markings. We thought it was awesome though, and kept them anyway, if not for a few laughs from the SOC guys.

Bolt: Bushmaster M16 carrier group. For the automatic FCG.

Grip: Hogue, rubber over-molded, with battery compartment housing underneath. I replaced the Ergo it came with, as the Houge seems more comfortable to me and fit my palms better. We usually kept C123s in the grip for optics and illumination.

Stock: Magpul CTR. I have not as of yet used the ACS stock, so it's very possible that might be my new favorite in the future. Still, the CTR is a really nice lightweight stock, and the friction lock that keeps out the wobble was really nice. USGI stocks tend to piss me off with the rattle and wobble. I threw the Enhanced .70in pad on the back, which took the recoil really well and gripped the plate on my rig better.

VFG: Magpul AFG. I guess there's a lot of debate over the Super Awesome Magpul Chris Costa Hold, but i prefer something along the lines of that hold, with my thumb resting in the channel between the top and left rails. That's also where I put my tape switch.

Illum: Left side mounted SF G2, either with or without the tape switch depending on the op. Usually ran it without a tab switch and just activated it with my thumb. We used to run SF XM07s but we got damn tired of replacing them, which we did quite frequently due to IEDs and close calls.

Optics: Magpul MBUS for the BUIS, Eotech 553 as the primary. Great optic, busted the lens once, and had it replaced by Eotech for free. Great for low/no light shooting as you can adjust the brightness and it even has the NOD setting, not that I ever got a chance to use it. It has held it's zero through everything, including being thrown from a Lexus LX. I also ran a TA31 RCO for some of the ops, because of engagement distance, and I loved it. Same pros - held its zero through everything, and a great optic for low light shooting with the fiber/tritium reticle illumination. They both held zero perfectly even after an optics swap thanks to the ARMS throw-lever bases. Never had an issue with zero after swapping between the two. The only downside to both of these optics is that they are heavy and adds considerable poundage. The T1 micros were really popular as well.

Sling: Specter Gear Viper single point and Viper Gear CST 3-point. Usually carried on the Viper sling, which I had shortened to fit me better (what's with making slings for huge dudes but not for the small/medium ones?). The shock cord was nice, and the ability to detach either the gun, sling or both was almost critical. For longer dismounts, I would run the CST so that I wouldn't kill my arms too much.

You can also see the ContourHD on the right side. TLs ran them on their rifles and brain buckets thanks to the Blackwater eff ups. It was rather annoying and ungainly sometimes but it was sector SOP.

Eighty 0ne

15 August 2011, 17:06

This was my birthday present to myself. I have wanted to build a new upper since spring and didn’t have the funds to just drop it all on a new upper so I had to get creative. I had to sell & barter to accomplish this budget build.

I traded GlobeMaster my 5.45x39 upper for his RRA 5.56/.223 upper. The only down side was that the RRA did not have a threaded muzzle. It was a bigger challenge than it should have been to get it threaded, but the good folks at Rainier Arms were happy to take my money and get this thing threaded right.

Also from Rainier Arms, I picked up a ff rail system that would work with the Adams Arms Piston Kit. I am extremely pleased with the Ergo® Z-Float™ Rail System. Not only is it compatible with my Adams Arms® Piston Kit, but it is the thinnest forearm I’ve ever held. I cannot begin to describe how happy I am with how it turned out. Rainier had the Z-Float system on sale for $99!

Here’s the breakdown:

Rock River Arms® R4 Barrel:
Chrome Lined
16” CAR Light Weight
1:9 Twist

Rock River Arms A4 Upper Receiver

Adams Arms® Piston Kit

SNS “Skull” Lower
Olympic Arms LPK
CAA UPG16 Pistol Grip
Magpul CTR® Buttstock
Magpul Enhanced Trigger Guard®

Step by step:

The barrel came in the mail today and looks great. Rainier Arms® came through and only a couple of days including shipping.

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With the barrel in place, I removed the old delta ring assembly from the original barrel nut. The original barrel nut will be used with the Ergo Z-Float Rail system.

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The barrel nut is tightened ensuring that the Adams Arms® drive rod will clear.

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The Ergo Z-Float is a two piece system that fastens to itself around the barrel nut. It fastens with 6 long hex screws near the barrel nut.

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This thing is so thin. I love it.

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I am waiting patiently for UPS to show up at my door with the optics for this rifle. I ordered a Millett® DMS-1 GenII and QD Mount.

SteveL

17 August 2011, 15:38

Here's the AR I finished building a few months ago. Note that I'm not a highly trained or experienced shooter. I gave it a lot of thought and researched a lot and put together a build that seems reasonable for what my intended uses are. However, I will need to get through some training and put it through some heavy use to determine whether it's exactly like I want or if there are changes I need to make.

My intended uses for this rifle are training. fun at the range, HD (possibly), and SHTF. I wanted a rifle that was reliable, durable, lightweight, and with the option to change/modify anything as needed. I decided on a 16" barrel because I didn't want the hassle of a pinned muzzle device, and I went with a lightweight profile barrel because it is exactly that - lightweight. I also went with a FF setup with no fixed FSP to make it easier to change handguards if I ever decide I want to. I stayed with DI because I'm not convinced there's any real world benefit to piston systems. Other than that I just tried to go with quality components. Whether the components I selected are anyone's personal preference or not, I dont think anyone will argue that they are indeed quality parts.

As far as accessories go I knew I would want a white light, a red dot sight, and a sling. I don't see a need for anything else. Again I tried to stay with quality components.

Without further ado here is the parts list and some pics:

Upper

DD flat top upper receiver
DD 16" CHF, chrome lined, light-weight barrel with midlength gas system and 1:7 rifling
DD pinned low profile gas block
Troy TRX Extreme 13" Battlerail
BattleComp 2.0
DD FA BCG
Magpul 2nd Gen BUS
BCM Mod 3 (Large) charging handle
Noveske TRX QD sling mount

Lower

Spikes Tactical stripped lower
Geissele SD-C trigger
BAD ASS-ST safety
Vltor A5 kit with Emod stock body
Magpul Miad grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Noveske QD end plate
Remaining lower parts from G&R Tactical with a couple of random parts from a local shop

Surefire M600C Scout Light with SR-06 remote switch on an IWC Mount-N-Slot mount
Huskey Amentum slider sling from Ares Armor with 2-to-1 point Triglide from IWC Mount-N-slot
Aimpoint M4s with LaRue QD mount

I decided to take a chance and added a Tactical Link Battery Assist Device (BAL) to try out. So far I like it and it hasn't caused any malfunctions. If that changes then it will be removed.

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Weight with empty magazine

So far I only have 800 rounds of cheapo steel ammo through it. 500 rounds of WPA and 300 rounds of Monarch. Within the first 240 rounds I had 4 various malfunctions:

1x failure to lock the bolt open on the last round fired
1x short stroke
1x failure to go all the way into battery
1x possible FTE - Initially I thought this was a double feed. I could see two casings both bottle necking into the chamber. When I removed the magazine and reached in and hit one both of them fell out. One was a spent casing and the other was a fresh round.

The following 560 rounds have all gone without incident. At this point I'm hopeful it's just a new rifle wearing in that caused the malfunctions. Of course it wasn't exactly high quality ammo either. After I get another case or so of brass through it without any further issues I'll feel better.

johnson

18 August 2011, 11:20

Finished this not too long ago and it's my first and maybe only SBR. Since applying for the stamp I've done quite a lot of reading to shape the idea of what I wanted in the end. Thing's may change but I'm happy with the way it is currently. Excuse me if I'm not as articulate as others. ;)

Upper Receiver: I went with the Vltor MUR-1A because of the quality of Vltor products in general. There is a $100 premium over a regular forged upper but it was worth it for me because of the aesthetics and it's supposed to be dimensionally correct. I have no way of checking but I'll take their word for it as well as the endosements by companies like Noveske and MSTN who use them in their precision builds.

Barrel and Handguard: Lots of options but ended with a Centurion Arms 12.5" with pinned FSB and DD MK18 RIS II FSP. I first looked into Centurion because of a few threads over on M4C and the specs looked very good on paper. It was a newer company and Monty would stop in time to time answering any questions and "dropped some knowledge". The more I read about his barrels and his background, I knew that this was a company I wanted to support. My first barrel from them was a 16" middy with pinned gas block and the overall quality is outstanding. It was a no brainer to go with a Centurion again for this SBR build. The older descriptions also listed a 1 MOA guarantee (or capable of) which speaks highly in his confidence of the product.

I chose the 12.5" because of multiple reasons. At first, I wanted an MK18 type setup because of the cool factor and since obviously if you're going short, why not go short?. After actually hearing one at the range, I decided that the muzzle blast was way too loud and disturbing to other shooters. That and finding a post by Paul from BCM stating why he went with the 11.5" over 10.5" (search "Why BCM chose 11.5" over 10.5"). At this point I started looking into the more technical side of things instead of looks. In the same M4C thread, Monty posted that his go to lengths would be 12.5" and 16". The reasoning was that it's a good balance of shortness while long enough to have good terminal ballistics out to a few hundred yards (not that I would need it). Lastly, it was the option of adding a reflex suppressor in the future specifically the AAC M4/SPR. This combo looks like it was made for eachother.

Options I was going to pick from:
A) 12.5" barrel with Troy Extreme Battle Rail 11"
B) 12.5" barrel with DD MK18 RIS II
C) 12.5" barrel with fixed FSB and Centurion Arms C4 FSP
D) 12.5" barrel with fixed FSB and DD MK18 RIS II FSP

Looks wise, I prefer an uninterrupted top rail with flip up sights with little barrel showing (like the "Costa" upper). With the possibility of adding a reflex can, the Troy rail was out. I had a DD LITE 12.0 and although it was a superb system in function, I never liked how the bottom rail was so far down making it too big if you're trying to wrap your hands around like you would a tube handguard. The same goes with Centurion handguards. The DD RIS II series is similar to the LITE in that it uses the same barrel nut and lock up system but goes further by adding anti-rotation pins and removable lower bottom rail that is tucked in. I was about to purchase the MK18 RIS II until I stumbled upon the FSP cutout version which I didn't know existed. I had no plans to get a pinned FSB because it usually required a 7" rail (or so I thought) or going with the Kino setup. I ended up with the MK18 RIS II FSP because 1) the sight picture with a fixed front sight never bothered me with either a red dot or magnified optic, 2) a Kino wouldn't allow the use of a reflex can and would add even more weight to the front end, and 3) I've only seen one or two other people with this rail combo and wanted to be different.

Bolt Carrier Group and Charging Handle: Bravo Company M16 BCG and Gunfighter Mod 4. Not much else to say that hasn't already.

Optic and Mount: Right now I use an Aimpoint Comp M2 with Bobro Cantilever mount but will eventually get an Aimpoint Micro to save weight. There's a big difference in how to rifle balances with and without the M2 on. I've had a T1 before and like it but I'm not waiting for Bobro to come out with their own Micro mount. If that's not in the forseeable future then will end up with a DD fixed mount.

The Troy flip up rear BUIS is from a previous built. If I keep this upper the way it is, I'll likely replace with a DD fixed rear.

Lower Receiver: I purchased this LMT Defender 2000 lower a few years ago with the purpose of registering it. Partly because of the name and partly because of the quality of the components used. LMT lowers have the smoothest triggers and safety selectors I've ever used. I get a good 6-7lb pull depending if I put grease on the contact points and the selector just flicks into place. I purchased a G&R LPK before which uses an LMT selector and it didn't quite feel the same (kind of stopped at the 45 degree angle).

Trigger: I've owned two different Geissele triggers (SD3G, SD-E) and although they feel much better, they didn't improve my groups or speed of shooting. Keep in mind that these were just regular uppers with red dots and not long range or competition guns where it might make a difference. I've also watched ssdsurf's videos on YouTube where he compares different drills with a stock trigger and Geissele two stage with little difference in accuracy or time. That said, a "good" G.I. trigger is few and far between. Mine is very nice compared to DPMS, Bushmaster, or RRA's that I've tried.

I have a Magpul B.A.D. lever that's not installed currently. I took a Vickers class a few months ago and he had some things to say (some good, mostly bad) and with other reports of some breaking off and causing malfunctions, I'm leaving it off for now. I personally had never had a problem with a bolt not locking back because of it.

Since the castle nut is staked, I wanted keep options open so I have a Noveske QD end plate. It feels weird if I mount my sling on there so I'm not sure if I would buy it again given the chance.

Receiver Extension: I'm using a Vltor A5 with modified buffer. The stock buffer contains two tungsten weights and two steel weights giving you 5.4 ounces. When using my 16" middy upper with PMC, it caused more felt recoil because I can feel the heavier buffer going back and forth. I swapped out the weights so now it contains one tungsten and 3 steel weights giving me 4.5 ounces which felt much enjoyable to shoot. Using this combo on my 12.5" with PMC is even more fun to shoot because recoil is barely there with very little muzzle rise if you have a good stance and grip. YMMV

Stock: For this, I stuck with Vltor stocks. I previously had the EMOD and liked all the features like great cheekweld, weight, rubber pad with reinforced butt plate, storage tubes, etc. Naturally for the SBR I wanted something more lightweight and the IMOD fit the bill. I didn't see myself benching or shooting prone so the clubfoot model didn't seem neccessary. Compared to a SOPMOD, Vltor stocks feel more loose/sloppy, even on Vltor tubes so I may get the SOPMOD in the future.

Sling: I don't have experience with any slings other than the Blue Force Gear VCAS. The two main choices seem to be either the VTAC or VCAS and chose the VCAS because of over whelming recommendation from others, better materials and the lack of slack when slung up. Slings are a personal preference and I'm sure I will try others in the future.

Other thoughts: This combo has given me an average of 2" or under groups at 100 yards so far with the stock trigger and Aimpoint M2. I previously wanted to get a Noveske Crusader barrel since I don't do tactical type shooting other than a carbine class here and there and usually just shoot for groups in which the Noveske would inherently be more accurate. Now the only reason I would get the Crusader is if I wanted the switchblock.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/johnson_n/IMG_1845-1.jpg

The first ever group out of this barrel with the Aimpoint M2 at 25 yards.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/johnson_n/IMG_4250.jpg

My best group so far at 100 yards with the Aimpoint M2 and 5.5" Shoot-N-C. First four rounds measures .75". PMC Bronze was used.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/johnson_n/IMG_4261.jpg

Eighty 0ne

21 August 2011, 11:07

Optics arrived via big brown truck today![:D]

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/Eighty0ne/Oly%20Arms/SNSRRAcomplete010.jpg

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/Eighty0ne/Oly%20Arms/SNSRRAcomplete012.jpg

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/Eighty0ne/Oly%20Arms/SNSRRAcomplete007.jpg

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/Eighty0ne/Oly%20Arms/SNSRRAcomplete006.jpg

caporider

23 August 2011, 12:45

Finished this not too long ago and it's my first and maybe only SBR...

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http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/johnson_n/IMG_1845-1.jpg

I proceeded along very similar lines of thought. I opted for a BCM 12.5" upper receiver group with pinned FSP. It is set up to take a Surefire reflex-type suppressor. DD Mk18 RIS II FSP handguard is great, T-1 doesn't really require any explanation, and the light is a Surefire VTAC L4 in a Gear Sector offset mount.

http://personal.visualitymedia.com/personal/ar15/556_risiifsp_1000.jpg

johnson

24 August 2011, 11:47

Do you already have the suppressor? I was planning to get one but they're discontinued.

caporider

25 August 2011, 06:53

Do you already have the suppressor? I was planning to get one but they're discontinued.

Yes, I sure do.

Mr.Goodtimes

30 August 2011, 09:56

goteron

30 August 2011, 12:18

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa436/TacticalElitist/Carbine.jpg

This gun ends up being my travel gun. I break it down and drop it in a SO Tech bag if I am going to be more than I few hours away from the house.

Lower:
LWRC Lower - This is my SBR Lower, nothing special about it
GI Trigger - SSA Didnt do anything for me
KNS Pins - I installed, realized it was stupid, and dont have the original pins... Doesnt hurt anything
Magpul BAD - I have had great success with it, no malfunctions, and makes life easier
Magpul ASAP - Works well with the MS2 Bungied to the Stock
Magpul MOE Grip - I like the grip Profile, prefer this over all others
Magpul CTR - Light and effective
Rainier BCG - Good Quality, and they ship before you actually order

Upper
Spikes Upper - Forged, nothing special
10.5" LW Barrel 1/7 - Save Weight
Shaved FSB - No reason to spend money on an actual Lo-Pro FSB
Troy TRX Extreme - One of my favorite rails. Perfect length, llight weight, and thin
Magpul MVG - Modified to be a Direct Mount to the TRX
Mount-N-Slot HandStop - So I don't burn my hands, and to give me something to push against in the event I need to
Surefire M300A - Perfect size and good mounting options
Mount-n-slot Scout Mount - Light, small, and allows me to keep it off the rail
Surefire SR04 Tape Switch - 12 o clock mounting and no extra cords
Muzzle Device - Soon to be replaced by an AAC 51T Blackout FH for mounting SDN-6 and Mini-4
No BUIS - Not needed for this gun in this capacity
Aimpoint T-1 - Small, Light, long battery life
DD T-1 Mount - No Need for QD as there are no BUIS, Lightweight and strong

johnson

31 August 2011, 20:14

It really sucks that surefire discontinued their reflex 5.56 cans. I hope that AAC holds on to the SPR-M4. Johnson, that's an extremely well thought out rifle and exactly what I am going to do with mine except I'll be using the standard MK18 rail with flip up BUIS or the centurion HK BUIS and an AAC SPR-M4. I found a place that stocks the SPR-M4 muzzle brakes so I'm going to jump on it as soon as my trust is ready.

EDIT: your rifle is pretty tempting Johnson, part of me wants to go with the FSB and the other part doesn't. If I go with a non FSB I'm really leaning towards the Centurion Arms HK sights.

A 12.5" is a balance of a lot of things IMO and if I went with a brake, I would just go with a 10.5" barrel and run it suppressed >95% of the time. SBR's are loud enough and a brake is just brutal to others around you. But if I wanted to go suppressed 95% of the time, I'd be looking at a whole other build altogether.

One reason that I didn't mention why I went with a fixed FSB over a pinned low profile gas block is that if I ever decide to run a longer rail I could just chop this one and still have the strength of a pinned gas block. This is my first SBR so I wanted to keep my options open. I think I may have put TOO much thought in this build. [:D]

I'm constantly thinking about what direction I want to go with my build(s). The plan has always been to have a 12.5" upper with a red dot for all around/general purpose/training class/HD use and a 16" that was more of an accurized build with a low power or medium power optic. I took this upper out last weekend and got a couple sub MOA groups (wasnt expecting it) and now a 1-4x optic is a definate possibility for this SBR. And with the 300 BLACKOUT gaining some popularity, I'm consantly going back and forth on getting a .30 cal suppressor over a 5.56 just to cover myself for future since it would make an almost perfect HD rifle. Then I go back and think that this $1000 for an upper/suppressor could buy over 3 cases of brass ammo among other things. It's always a balancing act. Sure wish I had a disposable income...

TripleBravo

31 August 2011, 21:13

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa436/TacticalElitist/Carbine.jpg

...No BUIS - Not needed for this gun in this capacity...

Please don't take this as an attack, because I love this set up, but I'm curious why you feel this way? Considering that your optic relies on batteries, doesn’t make a little sense to have some back up sights?

goteron

1 September 2011, 10:10

Please don't take this as an attack, because I love this set up, but I'm curious why you feel this way? Considering that your optic relies on batteries, doesn’t make a little sense to have some back up sights?

Not at all. There are two reasons. 1st is I am capable of decent enough accuracy at the distances I would use this gun in in my capacity (Home Defense 7-10 yards) and BUIS do not make enough of a difference for me at that range, especially folding as it would require me to deploy them. Under stress I'd rather focus on other things. (Maybe continued training will prove me wrong here)

And as stupid as it sounds, I will have to keep the second reason secret for the time. The first is the primary however.

Here is my 10.5" ACR. I use BUIS on it even though it semi-fufills the same purpose.

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa436/TacticalElitist/2-1.jpg

The choices are almost identical between guns with the exception of:

Larue T1 Mount - Still the best mount around. I wanted QD for BUIS and to swap between the T-1 and a 1-4 for testing
PEQ-15 - I like the switchology better than the DBAL, I really only use the IR laser and Ilum, not the vis.

Eric

1 September 2011, 20:16

1st is I am capable of decent enough accuracy at the distances I would use this gun in in my capacity (Home Defense 7-10 yards) and BUIS do not make enough of a difference for me at that range, especially folding as it would require me to deploy them. Under stress I'd rather focus on other things. (Maybe continued training will prove me wrong here)
BUIS should be considered mandatory on any defensive carbine. The T1 is about as reliable as you can get on a battery powered optic. Mine has been running for a couple years on the same battery. However, things do happen that are unexpected and we must be prepared in the best way possible. You could leave a front BUIS in place and use the T1 as a huge ghost ring rear site, but I would still have a front and rear BUIS in place.

goteron

2 September 2011, 07:15

BUIS should be considered mandatory on any defensive carbine. The T1 is about as reliable as you can get on a battery powered optic. Mine has been running for a couple years on the same battery. However, things do happen that are unexpected and we must be prepared in the best way possible. You could leave a front BUIS in place and use the T1 as a huge ghost ring rear site, but I would still have a front and rear BUIS in place.

Eric, I certainly appreciate and value your opinion. I do not want to derail this thread at all, so maybe this is better discussed in a seperate thread.

Here is my rationale behind it. The furthest shot I would ever have to take in my house is less than 50ft. Chances are I will be shooting at night under weaponlight. I have trained and can make good hits on target at that range under a weaponlight.
The nature of my floorplan dictates speed and violence of action over accuracy, so deploying and using BUIS for me doesnt seem logical. I have tried it both ways on a square range under circumstances as close as I can get.

It is also getting to the point that Optics have very high reliability. Of course things can always happen, but realisticly unlikely (Murphy however)

Of course the counter-argument is the addition of BUIS really has no downsides. If I come across a extra set I will probably throw them on there.

I still also have reason #2.

I do not mean to derail this great thread, so please move to a new thread if you wish, though I am sure its been beat to death on here.

Thanks

Hatter

2 September 2011, 08:18

Wondering Beard

2 September 2011, 10:00

Chances are

That's the part I prefer to minimize as much as possible in a defensive weapon.

Nothing is perfect so we all compromise and whichever way we compromise, there's a price to pay.

Is there any reason you couldn't go with a fixed instead of a folding BUIS? at least, you wouldn't have to take the time to deploy the folding ones.

goteron

2 September 2011, 15:11

You're describing your layout and reasons, that isn't derailing anything.

I'm confused in your logic however because I'm not sure which SBR you're referring to in certain situations. You have 2 10.5" SBR's. Both of which can be used for home defense and only 1 has BUIS. The rifle that you mention you break down and store in a carry bag when you are away from home is the one that doesn't. I think it is probably more feasible that the Aimpoint is somehow damaged while floating around in the carry bag. Sure, I'm not familiar with the bag or how protective you are of it while traveling but it could be a weak point. Not to mention that you say there is no downside to adding them.

And you keep mentioning the secret #2 reason, that although we don't know what it is, isn't so secret anymore.

Just my .02

Referring to the AR. A little history, the AR previously had a 9" 300BLK barrel and BUIS as a travel gun. That didnt make sense as 300BLK is still hard to come by at walmart, etc. So I swapped to the 10.5" 5.56 barrel and lost the BUIS as it will primarily be a home gun. I have another gun for travel now which has a 1-4 instead of the T-1 and BUIS.

I agree with your aimpoint travel assessment. I carry it in a SOtech extended Go Bag with insert. It works well for the record. If this were going to be travelling with me a lot I would indeed have BUIS on it.

I am not against BUIS at all, and it absolutely does make sense to have them on a gun. For a strictly HD role in my situation it doesnt make a whole lot of sense for me.

I cannot stand fixed BUIS.

And chances are the Aimpoint will work, upward of 99%. Though it still doesnt make sense not to have them. After this discussion I am going to re-evaluate and make sure my assessment is the right choice for me.

Curlyburns5

17 September 2011, 13:37

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6176/6155122310_a178b96e29_z.jpg

I wanted a soft shooting light weight setup so i went with an upper from BCM with the 14.5 LW barrel and a pinned Battle Comp as it seems to be the best comp on the market while still supressing some flash. I used simple Magpul MOE handguards to save weight, and a magpul vg for weight as well. I tried the mount-n-slot handstop for a while but found it heated up to fast and i don't always have my gloves with me when I hit the range.

I chose the Aimpoint CompM4 because aimpoints are hands-down the best rds on the market. I tried an aimpoint R1 for a while (that i spraypainted matte black) mounted on the daniel defense mount. In the end i just preferred the larger fov of the CompM4 and thought the sacrifice in weight was worth it to me. the Aimpoint sits on a LaRue qd mount. Rear BUIS is a KAC 300-600m flip up, I like the precision of these back up irons.

For the lower i chose a complete Daniel Defense lower that i bought from grant. I liked the assurance of a top quality product from dd and the flared magwell as well. I installed an SD-C trigger in it and immidiately fell in love with the clean break and positive reset. I have medium-small hands so i chose the tango down battle grip after trying the magpul moe. the tango down fits my hand better.

For the stock i chose the vltor emod bc that is what was on my first ar and i really like the cheek weld it provides. I tried the ctr and the moe stocks before ultimately decided that the extra weight of th emod was worth the better cheek weld for me. I run a vickers sling with qd attachment to my stock and my mount-n-slot micro qd on my moe's.

I have several thousand rounds downrange with only one malf. A stuck case i had to hammer out with a cleaning rod. It was cheap wolf. I was in a hurry to get to the range before they closed one night after a long day at work in the ER and needed to blow off some steam. In my haste i didn't soak the bcg as i usually would if i were running cheap russian shit. As fate would have it, three mags in i had a gummed up case get stuck in my dirty chamber. Several hundred rounds of x-tac since and not a hiccup. I plan on shooting up the rest of the steel cased shit and never buying another case. Its just not cheap enough for me to be able to justify the mess with using them.

I am considering a new rail, specifically the centurian arms c4. maybe as money permits but it's not a priority. Overall I am very pleased with my rifle and look forward to some serious shooting and hopefully some classes in the future. Want to end with a huge thanks to everyone that contributed to this rifle through your advice here on the boards. I truly would have been lost without you guys. Special thanks to grant to answering my annoying emails about which lower to choose. God Bless Our Troops.

rob_s

22 September 2011, 07:37

While the picture leaves a lot to be desired, it conveys all the necessary information one would hope to glean from it
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Vhp7jPCgwYRDA6Pqy9FyOXANzjY4f1TUziU0RtqXDnUwrjoW7k BZqw2rbxTpszi3wZ9p_FIf-kUx9VGtPKx85QsM2lLWYyxdpclc8dy_IZ1doQPvkK4

The goal here is to have the lightest, most compact AR I can get without sacrificing function or ergonomics. You can get more on the background behind the gun here (https://sites.google.com/site/tacticalyellowvisor/projects---guns/10-3-ultralight-sbr). The lower is a work in progress and the pistol grip and safety will be changed shortly to a Magpul K-Grip and BAD-ASS 45*, respectively. The upper specs are as follows:
A2 flash hider. The default. I see no reason to change this until reason is found to exist.
Daniel Defense 10.3" lightweight barrel. The lightest, shortest, barrel I felt comfortable going with. I think 7.5" barrels in 5.56 are both unreliable/finicky and restrict handguard length too much.
Troy TRX Extreme 9.0. Again the lightest handguard system I feel comfortable with (or know of, in this length, for that matter). The round holes also permit the use of the IWC QD socket which I think is a great design and good option to have.
Vlter MUR. This proved to be not as light as previously hoped, and if the proof of concept here works out it may well turn into a 9mm upper with hole drilled for the gas tube. For now, it's more than serviceable.
Daniel Defense front & rear sights. Sturdy, lightweight, fixed. Everything I look for in a BUIS.
Daniel Defense Aimpoint Micro Mount. No need of throwlevers here, lightweight, sturdy, and lower 1/3 height to mate up well with the fixed irons.
Aimpoint T-1. I actually prefer the H-1, but this is what was already attached to my mount from another carbine so I used it. If starting from scratch I would buy the H-1 as I have no need of night vision compatibility.

Uglyduck

22 September 2011, 10:36

Great build Rob. Interesting that the MUR weighs as much as a standard flat top...$100 for little gain is disappointing. Are you putting some serious thought into a 300BLK version?

rob_s

22 September 2011, 10:41

IF this project pans out, and IF (perhaps an even bigger if) the 300 BLK seems to gain some footing, then yes. I go back and forth on dedicated defense gun in alternate caliber vs. keeping the same caliber across the board.

Uglyduck

22 September 2011, 10:46

I go back and forth on dedicated defense gun in alternate caliber vs. keeping the same caliber across the board.

May be discussion for another thread but what are your thoughts on the topic?

rob_s

22 September 2011, 12:05

May be discussion for another thread but what are your thoughts on the topic?

Hoping to avoid the hijack, I put my thoughts, and backstory, here (https://sites.google.com/site/tacticalyellowvisor/concepts/caliber-merry-go-round)

TehLlama

24 September 2011, 04:35

I would simply add further to it that for the cost of niche calibers such as those, a huge amount of top end 5.56 ammo can be stockpiled, and a good sum of practice ammunition expended. I'd rather be highly proficient with a ~11" 22Cal carbine I can load modern TSX/SOST loads than have to rely on a .22LR training analog and a seldom used 6.8/300whisper upper for the same cash. As great as 6.8SPC is, it only widens the "effective target silhoette where a hit = incapacitation" by so much.

As far as layout - a question for Rob on the SBR layout, with the 9" TRX unit - what are your plans for weaponlight on there (if any), placement, and how is that going to affect your grip?
Borrowing from one of your older pictures I've moved my DD Fixed Front and SF X300 further back, which has helped me keep a consistent grip on the handguards (and not have booger pickers extending past the rail trying to touch the suppressor)

rob_s

24 September 2011, 05:57

I'm considering two options for a light on this. Well, possibly three.

The first is to go with the flow and move the front sight back and use the X300. Plus side on this solution is that the X300 goes on/off easily. down side is that with this configuration it moves the suport hand back a bit and exposes the lens to a lot of blast grime.

The second is to go with a Surefire Mini Scout on an IWC mount, at 1:30 (looking from the rear) so that activation is achieved by reaching over the top of the rail with the left thumb. Plus side is a better light, downside is it's not removable.

The third, less likely, option is to not put a light on it at all. It's a training gun, and it's not my only, or primary, gun so the times I would need a light are few and can be addressed by simply dragging out a different gun.

Rodman24

24 September 2011, 08:23

On a similar 10.3" set-up I had my light attached at 7:30 (lefty) which allowed me to have the light pushed a little further forward, and allowed for easy activation of the toggle. However, I found that the toggle was actually too close to my hand resulting in inadvertent activation. So I moved the light to the 9:00. It is still quite easy to activate with my middle finger, both momentary and constant. The addition of the VFG also seems to provide a more consistent purchase.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6157/6178201032_ce55b6e90b_z.jpg

rob_s

24 September 2011, 08:33

My HD carbine has the 9.0 Troy VTAC and the X300 at 12 o'clock and a VFG, no iron sights. That setup works pretty well for me and I'm familiar with it, but this new project is an excuse to try some different/new things. Or at least different/new to me.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/00f44f58.jpg

TehLlama

24 September 2011, 22:39

I've adopted the DD Fixed Front/X300 pairing simply because the front sight blocks my easiest avenue of ALD, but I can still activate the X300 whenever I do want light to pour forth. With all of my Absolute cowitness Micro Aimpoint setups I don't see myself deviating from this in the near future (I can run the flip-up rear sights I prefer, and if I need snap shooting without red dot the simple caveman alignment system gets me on target within rock-throwing distances).
As I eluded to above I actually prefer it forcing my support hand back, but that's because my orangutan appendages have a tendency to reach way far out and touch hot metal objects.

Another to consider would be an M300 (3V Scout or VTAC 3V SF E1B) mounted up there, but that would protrude farther into the blast area for not much gain. I'll probably try this on a longer handguard setup (11-12").

Anybody run a TLR-3 with a DD Fixed Front sight behind it? Might be the ticket for a lightweight packable SBR, but I have no idea how well that would work.

rob_s

25 September 2011, 02:46

I won't know until I have it in hand, but I think this (http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/radial-scout-light-mount-n-slot/) will actually push the bezel of the scout past the flash hider. The flash hider slots end 2" past the end of the tube, so maybe not. Will play with it when I get it.

With a rigidly fixed light, and therefore the inability to remove it for training purposes, something will have to be done about the bezel.

goteron

30 September 2011, 19:34

Can you just put a cheapo scope cover on it?

rob_s

1 October 2011, 02:51

Of course. You can also just tape over it when you're training and not using it.

Nuclear_Arms

12 October 2011, 16:07

A bit late to this party. I was trying to figure out where to post an introduction, so it might as well be here. This is my AR, and only AR for now. I began it spring of last year with months of research. I call it my recce-ish build. I have since begun a second build, using lessons learned from this first one.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HWFeoP5s754/TpYOZo2AUZI/AAAAAAAAARI/FShJjdbkIHg/s720/DSC_0004.JPG

It was originally built as a general purpose do-all gun. I assembled it piece by piece over the course of eight months, with the optic coming a few months after that (so I could get lots of time with the irons). It typically rests behind the headboard of my bed with a PMAG full of 75gr TAP. I have since used this gun for competition, drills, long range (sorta...more on that later), and even toyed with the idea of hunting this season, though that one didn't pan out for other reasons.

The Upper:

Receiver is just a Spikes stripped upper. No particular reason, other than it's also a Spikes lower- I thought I'd try to stay consistent out of some faint idea that if it gets sold, people might be more willing to pay for a gun with "matching parts"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JqQp8pJO2mw/TpYOOmUGo7I/AAAAAAAAAQ8/28o2N3vbj5I/s512/DSC_0012.JPG

A 16" Centurion light weight CHF barrel is the main part. I chose it out of a combination of Monty's accuracy claims and the double thick chrome. I have been able to maintain about 1.75" groups at 100 yards with quality ammo. That is using an average of five 5-shot groups. I am sure it could do better, but I am by no means a great shooter and I have had some misgivings about how the barrel was mounted (it's the only thing I didn't do myself, as I didn't have the tools). The barrel is tipped with an AAC Blackout (non-mount). I never really thought the .223 recoil was enough to warrant a compensator, so I wanted great flash suppression. The AAC is shorter than the Smith, so that's what I used.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pzBQJb4tQwo/TVQmvQ6oL5I/AAAAAAAAANs/xa1Xxhvvics/s720/DSC_0848.JPG

The hand guard is Seekins Precision / Spikes BAR in 10" flavor. This rail was chosen mostly because I was again trying to keep the branding consistent, but it also has some VERY nice machining. It is relatively light, and I really liked the mounting system, which is very sturdy. I went with 10” in an effort to find a balance between real estate and weight savings- I also liked the look of the pinned Centurion gas block just peeking out from the end of the hand guard.

After much use, I have found the hand guard very comfortable to hold, but maybe a bit too wide. The BAR was intended to be able to fit a suppressor within it’s inner diameter, but I don't have a suppressor or an SBR. While nice to have integrated QD swivels at several points, I do not like how it is handled on the sides towards the front end. You lose about an inch of usable rail space at these points, making it impossible to mount a light as far forward as you may want. I circumvented this by mounting the light on the top rail, and moving the front sight closer to the rear- it’s not ideal, but it works well enough. As funds free themselves, I have considered replacing this rail with a 10” or 12” Centurion C4.

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The bolt carrier group is a BCM Auto, not much needs to be said there.

The primary optic is a Trijicon TR24G mounted in an ADM Recon-H mount. It seemed to be a perfect all-round optic for a general purpose rifle, and it has done extraordinarily well in that role. However, day to day, the gun is mounted with an XPS 2-0 in an ADM mount (for QD capability and a lower third cowitness)

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The XPS was purchased in preparation for the next build, but seeing as that build is not moving along very fast, I went ahead and stuck it on this one to see how I liked it. Through drills and competition, I have found that I am faster with the XPS, but not by much, at least until things like VTAC barriers enter the picture. The TR24 is not so great when having to work with those smaller holes at odd angles.

Now, I really enjoy the TR24 for just about all kinds of shooting. In competition, where a stage has several targets ranging from 50 to 200 yards, this optic really shines. In the dark I don’t have a huge problem with washout, as there is still a big black spike when the light goes on- though there is a fraction of a second adjustment time for my eye when going from the glowing green triangle to looking for the big black spike. Obviously, the XPS doesn’t have that issue. I have attempted some longer range work with the TR24 and have found that out to about 250 yards (using a 100 yard zero) I can make consistent hits from just about any standard position. The longest I’ve made is 375 yards, though it was mostly a guessing game with the holdover position. With more time and practice, and probably doping the turrets, I'm sure I can improve.

The backup sights are just Magpul MBUS.

The Lower Receiver:

Spikes stripped lower. It was available locally, so that’s what I got.

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The trigger is a Geissele SSA. I love it. I was raised on two stage triggers (My first two rifles before this one were a Springfield M1A Loaded and a CMP M1 Garand I had restored by DGR Guns in Tennessee). I love the consistency of it, and I am fast when need be. I don’t know how it stacks up, but I can shoot ten shots into a eight inch circle at 10 yards within 1.6 seconds- plenty fast for my uses.

The buffer is a Spikes ST-T2. It came with the buffer tube, so I used it. The recoil impulse is very smooth, but I have had some trouble with Hornady 55gr training rounds short stroking. That’s the only ammo I’ve had issues with so far- though I’ve never shot wolf.

The ACS was chosen for the nice big footprint and the storage capacity. As I originally built the gun for handling just about anything I wanted to do, I expected that I might need to carry along batteries.

The MIAD is pretty self explanatory.

Other accessories:

The light is an Elzetta ZFL-M60 mounted with a Gear Sector. It puts out 235 lumens. I’ve since found this is probably excessive for indoor uses, but it works great outside at night, and actually nicely compliments the TR24.

The Tango Down Stubby QD is something I use more like a hand stop than a foregrip, bracketing my hand at the front of the hand guard.

I originally used the ASAP plate with an MS2 sling. I have since switched the sling out for a padded VCAS, but still using the ASAP plate with a MASH hook and an IWC tri-glide to emulate the 2 point or single point sling capability of the MS2.

I have a 3 Gun Stuff cat tail on the TR24, works as intended.

I also have a BAD lever. I've never had an issue with it, and it is nice to have when doing malfunction drills. But I'm unsure if I'll buy another for the next gun.

Lessons Learned for the next build:

While this rifle is not light weight, it really isn’t terribly heavy either. However, the next build is using a factory assembled BCM 16” LW middy upper with MOE hand guards.

I’ve never been terribly satisfied with how the upper was assembled. I was going to send it off to ADCO or VA Arms, but ended up taking it to one of the local gunsmiths. I watched him do it in order to “learn.” But was not very happy with his methodology. If/when I replace the spikes rail with a centurion, I have struck up a deal with the CATM armorers on base (I’m in the Air Force) to do it.

The flash hider is fantastic, but It’s looking like I’m going to be stationed in California within a year, so I need to start looking into compensators for the next build, as well as this one.

Other than that, I’ve been very satisfied with this gun. It has done everything I’ve asked of it, and only suffered two malfunctions (both were short strokes with weak ammo) in about 3,000 shots fired.

Wow...that was long. If you got this far, thanks for reading...I hope I met the intent of this thread.

cooleststud

13 October 2011, 10:37

I love my M4, and I put a LOT of money into it and it will continue to be upgraded until I just buy a new one.
It is a beast and I have put almost 3000 rounds through it and it has preformed spectacular.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/6240443593/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/6240443727/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/6240960452/in/photostream

Full load out....
: SOG M4 5.56/.223 with Flip Up Iron Sights
: Grip Pod
: Elcan 1.5 x 6 Sight
: Custom Ejection Port Cover
: Magpul MIAD Pistol Grip
: Magpul Trigger Guard
: Magpul B.A.D. Lever
: CAA Tactical CBSM Stock
: SOG Oversized Safety/Selector Switch
: Receiver End Plate Sling Attachment - Double Looped
: Ergo Rail Covers
: VLTOR Charging Handle
: Chrome Bolt & Bolt Carrier
: D-Fender Extractor Enhancer
: YHM Phantom 5.56 Q.D. Flash Hider
: YHM Titanium Phantom 5.56 Sound Suppressor

When I started looking into what type of optic I wanted I had people suggesting and pulling me in two directions.
1 - Just use a red dot or a holographic sight
2 - Go with an ACOG because it has the advantage of magnifying your target.

After a lot of research and deciding to spend a lot of money, I decided on the Specter DR Elcan 1.5 x 6 sight.
This sight can handle anything, and it does. After I got it I took it to Afghanistan where it worked flawlessly.

Why I love it..... As simply stated on the web site...
The Specter DR multi-function combat day sight is a revolutionary optical design that combines the best of close combat and precision fire ranging features into a single, low profile dual-field-of view (DFOV) sight. The Specter DR 1.5-6x dual role sight gives machine gun operators and designated marksmen a sweeping 1.5x view of the battlefield for target acquisition, then allows instant switching to 6x for accurate, long range precision fire and suppression.
Situational awareness in both magnifications is improved with wider viewing angles and unmatched light transmission in low light conditions.

Basically...
: Can be used as a red dot site by having the ability to illuminate a red dot or the entire crosshair reticle.
: The sight's 6x magnification is great to use like an ACOG.
: Switches instantly from close combat (1.5x) to telescopic (6x) in less than 1 second and the illumination works in both positions.
: The crosshairs are etched into the glass
: Integrated back-up iron sights are bore sighted to scope
: Waterproof at 66 feet for 2 hours minimum
: Shockproof to 450 g's
: Battery lasts for 300 hrs minimum at maximum brightness
Downside ?? I don't think so but other may. It does weigh a bit at 700g (1.54 lbs)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/6240745557/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/6241261200/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/6240444243/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/6240445795/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/6240961958/in/photostream
For full specs you can go to http://www.elcansightingsystems.com/products/dual_role_sights.php

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooleststud/

Let me know what you think, any questions or suggestions. I would love to hear about them

United States Marine Corps (MOS 1833 - Amphibious Assault Vehicle) - 3rd Amphibious Assault Battalion, Bravo Company - Camp Pendleton, California - 1999 to 2003
United States Marine Corps Reserve (MOS 03113 - Light Armored Vehicle) - 4th Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, Charlie Company - Camp Williams, Utah - 2004 to 2007
United States Army National Guard (12B - Combat Engineer) - 1457th Engineer Battalion, Sapper Company - Camp Williams, Utah - 2009 to Present
Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) 2010-2011 - FOB Salerno, Khost Providence, Afghanistan - Route Clearance Operations

"Those who see War on TV, in Movies or heard about it second hand make your decisions about War based on 98% fiction and 2% fact. Those of us, who have lived, breathed, and felt the wrath and percussions of War live with it daily, and for the rest of our lives.”

xbmxracerx

14 November 2011, 07:45

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/219a4049.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/user/emufreak1?feature=mhee#p/a/u/2/VL7FIsv4DSA

To follow the format I chose a mid length Daniel Defense Carbine.

Weapon:
Daniel Defense DDM4v3

Misc accessories:
Hogue pistol grip (the stock AR15 pistol grip....well do I need to say more?)
Magpul BAD lever (which has been a great addition to the weapon for efficiency purposes)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/fe241c64.jpg

BCM Mod 4 charging handle (the medium latch makes a huge difference one handed-although muscle memory allows me to manipulate a stock charging handle with no problem as well)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/Newads2.jpg

Battle Arms Developement AMBI Safety (more efficient way to put back on safe while moving)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/IMG02665-20110408-2313.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/IMG02667-20110408-2315.jpg

Surefire MiniScout 300a Weapon light with the SR-07 dual switch (can't mess with the reputation...lightweight and powerful)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/180148_1831579305246_1113293683_2157166_1658794_n. jpg

Spikes Tactical Goodies:
Stubby forward grip (the Daniel Defense one was nice but too long for me. The billet stubby is a nice addition)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/IMG02341-20110225-1037.jpg

Billet trigger guard (swapped for the stock MOE)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/SpikesTGinstalled.jpg

ST-T2 Buffer (Tungsten powder as opposed to the weights...I think it's smoother)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/Spikesbufferinstalled.jpg

Chrome BCG and Bolt (can always use a spare)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/2dff44c6.jpg

Optics:
I chose the Trijicon TA31RCO-M4CP over the Eotech and Aimpoint (for this build) because my shooting is med to long range (T-1 for my SBR)
Swapped the stock mount for the ARMS lever mount.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/IMG02469-20110316-2012.jpg

BUIS:
Went with Troy for obvious reasons (the Daniel Defense A1.5 sight was nice but with the ACOG, was not an option so I chose the flip which tucks nicely under the Trijicon)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/Newads3.jpg

Flash Hider:
Chose the YHM 5C2 comp (nice recoil management)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/YH5C2Phantom.jpg

Stock:
Upgraded recently to the Vltor IMOD (better cheek weld and storage than the stock MOE)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/eaf8d341.jpg

Complete specs:
Daniel Defense DDM4v3 : Trijicon RCO-M4CP ACOG w/ A.R.M.S. #19 LD mount : Bravo Company Gunfighter Mod 4 charging handle : Troy/Spike's rear BUIS : Spike's M16 BCG : Spike's ST-T2 buffer : Spike's billet trigger guard : Spike's forward grip : Battle Arms Development ambi safety : YHM 5C2 flash hider : Surefire M300A miniscout weapon light w/ SR-07 dual switch : Magpul B.A.D. lever : Magpul P-Mags w/ ranger plates : Vltor IMOD stock : Hogue pistol grip.......Kershaw/Daniel Defense knife.....Contour HD 1080P Camera.....

A few changes since this post:
The Geissele SSA trigger.....smooth and consistant
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/8375d332.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/cb64f545.jpg

Went to a 45 ST on the BAD ASS safety
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/c5541031.jpg

Picked up the Aimpont T1 with the KAC mount for some training I'm helping some local PD's with..
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/a226b1df.jpg
Pretty happy with it so far...
After zero --- 25y poa/poi
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/c1e2a968.jpg
50y poa below orange circle
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/bc9acf4f.jpg

Finally....my new case...the Pelican SOPMOD

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/3e724f9f.jpg

Another new addition to the fam.......
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/emufreak1/b6c7cbd6.jpg

Drudishauser

28 January 2012, 21:22

Hey everyone, my first post here at Weapon Evolution, and my first AR, a Panther Arms Oracle 16" Carbine:

Heres how it started:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/Dan8705/AR-15/cdc13305.jpg

And then the evolution began...

Upper/Lower Receiver: DPMS Panther Arms Oracle.
Why? I got a REALLY good deal on it.

Handguard: YHM Diamond Carbine-Length FF QR.
Why? I love the look of the diamond series.

Sights: Main- EoTech 516
Why? Love EoTechs! Tough, durable, and fast target acquisition.
BUIS: Magpul MBUS front and rear
Why? Fairly inexpensive and very durable.

Grips: Magpul MOE+ and Magpul MOE vert grip
Why? Why not? The MOE+ has a really nice positive grip, but not too sticky. The vert is the perfect length and I like it.

Stock: Magpul ACS
Why? Very sold stock. With the friction lock, it doesnt wobble at all! Very solid and has several storage compartments.

Other additions:
-Streamlight TLR-1 weapon light
-Over-sized charging handle lever
-Magpul BAD lever
-Magpul Rail guards
-Magpul ASAP

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/Dan8705/AR-15/92805b90.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/Dan8705/AR-15/1614445f.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/Dan8705/AR-15/7089bb1d.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/Dan8705/AR-15/193dc977.jpg

Drudishauser

7 February 2012, 14:04

Anyone have any comments, suggestions, opinion? I am completely aware that this is the beauty of AR style platforms, the ability to make it your own. But of course I'm always open to opinions and such. There's a lot of really great setups on here. Wish I had the money to really do what I want to do to it but I think it performs just fine as it is. I'm happy with it. :)

AR-dad

7 February 2012, 19:06

Hi all, my brother-in-law is a big AR fan, and set out to build a best-of-best components AR. After I finished building it for him, I would say that it is a sniper rig minus optics (fancy speak for too heavy to do anything but sit on a bipod and shoot paper).
This is my very first build and was after almost 12 years away from firearms (no money to spare). Here is a rundown of the parts I remember using:
upper- Spike's tactical
lower - Spike's tactical
barrel - Stag Arms Match barrel (I believe)
compensator - PWS
Rail - Daniel Defense (I have a new hatred for allen screws because of this piece)
buttstock - ERGO F93 Pro Stock
Pistol grip - magpul
Bolt - Adams Arms (piston)
sights - Spike's Tactical
Buffer Assembly - Spike's Tactical

Like I stated before, his vision for this was a best-of-breed build, so to speak. I am looking forward to my next build whenever I can swing it.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jY6jzeqLTPU/TpS6cozaS7I/AAAAAAAADXA/3xDZwp_dhBo/s1152/IMAG0001.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--aJLt2hTRsM/To_ifeloP7I/AAAAAAAADYY/ddFuvABbqPE/s1152/IMAG0303.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d-bptXcGawA/To_il-JmrPI/AAAAAAAADW4/mI19srtumsE/s1152/IMAG0304.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--dqcFY3hyoU/To_irmwuBFI/AAAAAAAADW8/fpQrNcacggQ/s1152/IMAG0305.jpg
** I realized the rear sight was backwards after photo**

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JyJ6wafk2Vg/Tr3bz_woqoI/AAAAAAAADZk/PYuIuT7i9Jg/s1152/IMAG0026.jpg
**did some color fill for him too. Sorry the image sucks.**

Thanks to him and all the great info I am getting here, my true passion has been resurrected.

lmtrocks

12 February 2012, 21:20

My primary is a 10.5" SBR in 7.62x39
Aimpoint Micro R1 in a Larue 660
Noveske QD endplate
SOPMOD
Daniel Defense MFR handguard
YHM 762 QD FH
Barrel contoured to .700 behind the gas block
MBUS
TLR-1
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6785376965_4caed8367d_b.jpg

I chose the 7.62x39 round simply because of the available ammunition which is very cost effective. Early on I had a little trouble getting the gun to run correctly, but that was simply because I had a 16" carbine barrel and a local AR MFG threaded it for me. It was up to me to figure out the gas port size. Finally arrived a 3/32 (.094) and it has run like a champ since then. It required a Model 1 Sales 7.62x39 enhanced firing pin which has been worth every penny of the $25 I paid for it. I have put 2830 rounds through the weapon since it's birth.

The Aimpoint R1 was purchased simply due to the price. Midway closing them out at $300 about 15 months ago put a great deal in a bunch of people's hands. I didn't buy it at that time, but found a great deal on TOS and decided to purchase. I have not regretted it one bit. The pictured mount is an ADM, but have since switched to the Larue 660 which gives lower 1/3 cowitness. It comes off when I want to run MBUS only, and remains on for 5 years according to Aimpoint. I believe them.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7008/6756007561_d983668874_b.jpg

The YHM 762QD is on the gun because I am going to eventually own my first suppressor. I purchased the YHM 762 Ti back in November because I found a great deal on it at $849 shipped. I got the last one at the dealer, and the Form 4 is pending since 03Jan2012 so I know I have a few months to go. It will be worth the wait.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6756005815_27a38d0c1c_z.jpg

The SOPMOD stock is a wonderful piece, ergonomically, and how it provides watertight storage for both CR123s and a copy of the Form 1 for my registered lower. The lower itself is a LMT and the upper is also LMT that I decided to rebarrel after having both of them cerakoted. I find it somewhat interesting that LMT is now supplying 5.45, 762x39, and 300blk on their MRP uppers. I believe this is going to be a qualitative jump for the industry simply because of the options it provides shooters now.

The Daniel Defense MFR is a great forearm. I think DD hit the ball out of the park with this system, except they didn't make it stop at T39....so I machined it down and it's worked perfectly on my gun. It's a very lightweight offering, and installs with a barrel nut that does not need timing to the gas tube port in the upper receiver. You hit your torque spec and reinstall the gas tube/block. Slide the rail over the barrel nut and tighten 4 setscrews down. It is a solid attachment---I've flogged my SBR since installing it and even removed it to have the barrel contoured. I am glad they made it.

The Noveske QD endplate provides a very strong attachment point for your sling. I run a singlepoint and appreciate how I can switch from support to strong and back to support side shooting rather quickly. It is not as clingy or noisy as the Magpul ASAP, which this replaced. I will install this on every lower I have now.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6756009825_34fb990797_z.jpg

Now to get additional uppers built to finish off my projects so I can write more on those guys.

Gun

18 February 2012, 10:03

My first AR-15 assembly project (AP), gave me my first AR of any kind, in a pistol configuration. My interest in a AR pistol was that I could carry it loaded, in a vehicle, with my LTCF. So why not? Secondary, I would later acquire a 16” upper and a stock, then do some swapping to have a rifle with the same lower. But, I’ll probably get another lower and just assemble a rifle. That bridge is off in the distance.

My AP started with acquiring a lower from PSA, during their christmas sale. For 49.95, what the heck. Then I acquired the PSA Pistol-LPK, which included the MagPul endplate and an H Buffer. For the upper, I chose the LMT 10.5 barrel that included the BCM handguards, a BCM BCG, and a BCM Mod 5 CH. Topping it off, rear sighting is done with a Troy Flip Up Battle Sight.

I read quite a bit on these different parts. That is what search engines are for, find information from those who have ask these questions before, or I could have started a thread, “10.5 or 12” barrel?”. There were already plenty of opinions to be had, on several forums.

The PSA lower, from their website;

These forged lowers are quality made using material is 7075-T6 and are*marked "CAL MULTI" to accommodate most builds. *Finish is Black Hardcoat Anodize per MIL-8625 Type 3 class 2.

Doesn’t seem bad for a 49.95 part (79.95 reg.). Their lower parts kit also seem of decent quality, but this was the first kit I had ever handled. Assembly was fairly easy, and passed the initial functions test. Total cost 162.00, inc. shipping. Now, I wanted an OAL > 26”, but not by much! If I decided on a FVHG, I would not need a tax stamp, if OAL > 26”. A 10.5 barrel was the ticket, and LMT had the upper, and I really don’t have to tell you guys about LMT, do I? Nor do I have to tell you about BCM BCGs, or their charging handles. I splurged for the upper parts, as I had already put together a lower for less than 2 bills! Besides, the thought of an SBR down the road did cross my mind, hence the LMT 10.5.

First 100 rds of Fed 55 223 was without incident, except when I stuffed a mag in the firearm, took aim, then fired, and nothing. I grabbed an empty mag! Geesh. Now I can tell you with certainty that resting your cheek on a bare metal RE, is not the most pleasant thing to do. So I wrapped the RE with handlebar grip tape. For 14.95, I have enough to re-tape it twice, and the stuff is made for blood sweat and tears. Really didn’t want a spider next to my cheek. The tape made all the difference, especially since the temps have been in the 30’s. Also acquired an ST-T2, which had little improvement, but it is a 10.5 barrel.

Second trip, shot 100 rds of Fed 55, and adjusted iron sights. Third trip, shot 100 rds Fed 55, 100 rds AE 55 (both felt the same), and 15 rds Hornady Varmit 55. With Hornady, one failure to strip and chamber last rd. No other failures. Can shot from 25 yds, with 80% inside 7 ring, and 99 percent on target. First time shooting irons, other than true handgun, in a really long time. On optics, when I can shoot grps of five, on target, at 100 yds, I’ll get an optic. As far as other doodads, I’ll do some research first, but would rather buy ammo for now!

Since I'm neither military or law enforcement, this AR is for all other legal reasons.

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae285/much2late/LMT07-1.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae285/much2late/LMT06-1.jpg

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TaurusOss

19 February 2012, 07:13

This is my first AR build and several things will be changed when more money is in the wallet. lol But for now it will consist of,

Seekins ambi lower,
PSA LPK, with KNS anti-rotation kit, (will be getting better trigger)
PSA upper(will be gettin Seekins) with Wilson .223 SS 16" mid barrel,
Billet charging handle,
Magpul MOE grip and MOE stock, OD green,
Troy drop in 9" rail,
Ergo ladder covers, OD green.
Magpul MBUS rear sight,
Tactical link Z360 sling mount and single point sling,(also have Magpul MS2 sling),
NCStar 2.5-7x42 mil-dot illuminated(red/green) scope(for now but its was free and holds zero with clear glass)

and Im sure theres a couple things Im forgetting but you get the idea. The rest of the parts(upper) will be here tuesday so Ill post some pics then. Let me know what yall think.

TangoSauce

29 February 2012, 13:41

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k596/TangoSauce/IMG00382-20111115-1711.jpg

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k596/TangoSauce/IMG00389-20111115-1714.jpg

Here's my work horse. BCM 16'' middy. This bbl length is great for medium distance shooting but does not require NFA. I prefer the 14.5'' but wanted a KAC triple tap on this rifle...not pinning and welding that. SSA-E trigger, super crisp, almost too light though and have stuck with SSA on my Recce type rifles. 12'' LaRue handguard. Scout light, very reliable without adding too much weight on LaRue mount. Aimpoint co-witness on LaRue base, probably moving over to a 1/3 on this soon though. Troy flip-ups. Magpul furntiure and LaRue clips.

TangoSauce

3 March 2012, 14:21

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k596/TangoSauce/IMG00511-20120209-2253.jpg

Quick pic before putting the SWFA 1-4 on. Noveske N4 18'' SPR. Geissele DMR trigger. FSC556. LaRue 13.2'' rail. Harris bipod with LaRue mount. Troy flips. Magpul furniture.

grgelliott

13 March 2012, 13:43

Im new to this site and just wanted to say that im doing my first build ever of an AR15.

looking for comments, suggestions, tips and hints.

so far I have ordered all the parts and pieces and they are in the mail.
they are:

-BCM Standard 16" Mid Length Upper Receiver Group w/ Daniel Defense LITE 12" Handguard
-Vltor AR-15 Lower Receiver 5.56mm Complete .223
-CAA UPG16 Pistol Grip black and tan.
-Magpul GEN2 MBUS Rear and front
-4 Magpul PMAG 30rd with window
-Magpul UBR Collapsible stock
-LMT Tactical Charging Handle Assembly
-Magpul MOE Trigger Guard Polymer
-Vltor Scout Mount
-Surefire E2L Outdoorsman Flashlight
-Streamlight Tactical Light Remote Switch
-Magpul MS2 Multi-Mission Sling System
-Magpul RSA Rail Sling Attachment
-Magpul ASAP Ambidextrous Sling Attachment Point
-Magpul BAD Lever Battery Assist Device
-Magpul AFG2 Angled Foregrip
-Magpul XT Rail Panel
-Magpul XTM Rail Panels
-Sightmark red dot scope

That is everything I ordered to complete the gun that i want. ill have pictures as soon as i get the parts from the mail.
It should turn out to be a pretty sweet gun. (I hope)
Please comment; dos and donts, good rounds to buy, lube, cleaning kits, etc...
Thanks!

Eric

13 March 2012, 15:33

grgelliott,
Nice build list. What role will this be used in?

A few thoughts: the Sightmark RDS isn't exactly a recommended optic, especially given the good parts in you build. The MAD seems to work for some folks, but creates negative issues for others. Do you have experience with the standard setup that caused you to need one? The Surefire E2L isn't really the best choice for a weapon-mounted light, given the low output and two stage switch. The light's barrel is narrower than most and I'm not sure what light mounts will work. Also, will the Streamlight pressure switch fit a SF? I have not tried that combo.

grgelliott

13 March 2012, 17:36

Thanks!

yea i realized that after i purchased the light and the switch. too much clicking around on the sight i guess. most likely will return and get a good pair. any recommendations?

the sightmark red dot is what was on my old shotgun that i didnt use... more than likely will purchase a eotech and flip magnifier for this AR.

Im generally building this gun for recreation, coyote hunting, wild bore hunting, home protection, and obstical courses for AR for time.

I figured i can buy cheap parts now and replace them all when i realize i should of bought good parts from the start. so i want to do it right the first time.

your advice was great, im lookin into new light and optics now.

grgelliott

14 March 2012, 17:35

I took your advice and since I want to do this build right, I went ahead and ordered the Surefire M951 flashlight with rail mount and pressure switch. another piece to wait for in the mail. ill post pics when i get everything in and assembled

travk1234

19 March 2012, 19:55

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l481/Travis_Knoblauch/photo.jpg

My Recce build
-Rainier Arms Upper
-Black Hole Weaponry 16" 1x8 twist
-Spikes Tactical lower
-Geissele SSA trigger
-Magpul MOE Grip
-Magpul MOE Stock
-Daniel Defense Low Profile gas block
-BCM Bolt assembly
-BCM Gunfighter Charging handle
-Magpul BAD Lever
-MI 12" FF Handguard
-Magpul AFG2
-Knights Armament rail covers
-YHM Compensator
-EOTech 557 with Aimpoint 3x Magnifier in Larue Tactical flip mount
-Magpul front BUIS
-Matech rear BUIS
-VTAC sling

TangoSauce

22 March 2012, 09:21

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k596/TangoSauce/IMG00552-20120321-1816.jpg

14.5''' Noveske Afghan with p&w BattleComp 1.5, 12'' LaRue handguard, Noveske N4 lower, MUR upper, DD LPK, SSA trigger, Noeveske Troys and charging handle, etc. Still deciding on an optic though. Going to toss a Troy ambi on too once I make another parts order.

Wanted a Recce type rifle that could drive nails, so I went with the Noveske SS barrel. Wanted the 14.5'' to help maneuver during tight situations w/o dealing with a stamp. Kept my standards high on the rest of build, currently $2,500 deep on this one.

Thinking 1-6x optic, but I MIGHT go with an Aimpoint with magnifier. Not generally a fan of the magnifier on a red dot, but it might work on this rifle.

lamarbrog

23 March 2012, 22:42

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i190/Lamarbrog/DSCN1102-1.jpg

My rifle is basically an M16A4 clone. I have no training on the M16A4, have never held a real one, I just happen to really like the configuration. The longer gas system and the added weight that comes with this configuration really makes it a mild shooter. The longer sight radius is a huge benefit to me since I am not using optics. I tried an TA31F-G ACOG from Trijicon for a while, but find I tend to shoot more quickly and more accurately using iron sights. Especially considering I rarely shoot beyond 300 yards with this rifle, the ACOG was a nuisance more than anything else. I might try out an Aimpoint Micro T-1, but am having a hard time justifying it considering I don't feel handicapped by the iron sights. The Daniel Defense A1.5 is a great rear sight.

The really mild recoil on this rifle also makes it great for teaching new shooters who are ready to move beyond .22LR.

The rail system is in place primarily because it provides a very secure way of attaching a QD socket for a sling. Besides, I got the rail system for really cheap, and couldn't pass it up. The extra weight is a little annoying, but not really that big of a deal.

I prefer the A2 stock since it doesn't wobble, and I usually keep the stocks of carbines at full extension anyway. I also like the ability to have a cleaning rod on the rifle just in case I need to clear a stuck case. I also like fixed stocks because, while I am currently clean shaven, I was rocking the lumberjack look for a while and collapsible stocks always ended up pinching and ripping out my beard hairs. It hurt, and if not kept in check would eventually cause an unsightly bald patch... hey, don't laugh, it's a legitimate issue.

(Edit to add: One thing I do not like about the A2 stock is that it doesn't work well with my TAG Marine Gladiator chest rig. The padded shoulder straps in combination with a stock that is already full length is not ideal. I make due, since most of my shooting is not done with a chest rig on, and it isn't really a problem, just annoying.)

I really like the VTAC sling. Sometimes I get annoyed at the tail, but having the ability to secure the rifle across my back and use my hands without having to find a good place to lean it or lay it on the floor is convenient.

Parts List:
Lower:
Interarms ISA-15 Lower Half
Colt's Mfg A2 Stock
Upper:
Palmetto State Armory Upper Half with FN Barrel
Knight's Armament Company M5 Rail Adapter System
Accoutrements:
Daniel Defense A1.5 Rear Sight
Daniel Defense QD Sling Swivel
Blue Force Gear A2 Stock adapter
Viking Tactics Wide Padded Sling (Coyote)
Brownell's AR15 Buttstock Cleaning Kit

Intended Role:
I try to be realistic about what my needs are. Chances are, this rifle will never be fired in anger. It will mostly just give me enjoyment on the weekends, hopefully holding tight groups from a bench or prone while being smooth to shoot. The most noble thing it will likely ever do is give some new shooters an introduction to the AR15 in a mild recoiling, accurate package. However, I did try to go with parts of sufficient quality that I feel comfortable trusting my life to it if that need arises- I feel like I have found a balance that gives me the best of both worlds.

Stickman

24 March 2012, 09:26

Very nice.

Penner

29 March 2012, 02:43

7.62x39mm
Magpul MOE + Grip
Magpul flip up rear sight
Magpul CTRl stock
Magpul B.A.D lever
Magpul aluminum trigger guard
Laure LT-110 EOTech riser
EOTech XPS-2
DD LITE 12.0 FSP.

DerMann

29 March 2012, 16:29

Please forgive the crappy pic...

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/gh0001356/002-3.jpg

This is my TEOTWAWKI go-to gun. BCM upper and lower, Centurion Arms C4 rail, SureFire M600C. She's rock solid and runs like a champ. I went with parts from companies with solid reputations for quality. I'm not 100% sold on the tape switch for the SureFire and I would like to upgrade the ML2 to a T1 eventually. I'm running BAD-ASS Hybrid safety selector levers on both sides. IMO the Hybrid lever is perfection incarnate. I also really like the MOE+ grip. It provides a good grip even with wet or sweaty hands.

Cameron

25 April 2012, 21:50

Some minor updates to three of my carbines. I ditched the BCM 18" SPR as it was just too close in performance to the Daniel Defense 16".

"The Recce"

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/7104512809_d0ec367878_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8167/6957180812_70a1603035_b.jpg

Daniel Defense in house custom upper
Lothar Walther 16” LW50 Stainless Steel 1 in 7” twist barrel 5.56 Wylde chamber A2 Flash Hider Mid Length gas system with H2 buffer
Daniel Defense bolt carrier group with a bolt that is hand matched to the barrel

BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Magpul XTM rail panels with custom texturing
IWC Hand Stop
VTAC Light Mount
Streamlight 130 Lumen light
Leupold MK4 1.5-5x20mm Special Purpose Reticle 3rd Gen Illumination Larue SPR-1.5 QD mount
Troy back up iron sights

Daniel Defense lower receiver
LMT 2 stage match trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul BAD lever
Vickers Combat Applications padded two point sling

My attempt at the "do-it-all" carbine, a build inspired by the SEAL Recce rifle. This is a fantastic AR, I bought the upper from Daniel Defense before they were manufacturing their own barrels and they used the excellent Lothar Walther LW50 machined to a specially tapered contour they requested. This rifle makes me look like a better shooter than I am. With the tapered barrel it balances perfectly for me and is very fast at close range, it will rival the times I am able to get with my red dot equipped ARs up close and then settles down to put sub MOA groups out at longer ranges. I recently shot this on a known distance range and made first round hits on all 20" targets at 200, 400, 500, 800 yards.

"The M4"

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/7104512257_c403c53c47_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7273/7103251421_e649accf7d_b.jpg

Bravo Company Manufacturing upper
BCM 14.5” 1 in 7” twist chrome lined barrel 5.56 NATO chamber PWS FSC556 tactical compensator Mid Length gas system with H2 buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Magpul XTM rail panels custom texturing

Gear Sector Hand Stop

VTAC Light Mount
Streamlight 130 Lumen light
Aimpoint T1 Micro Larue QD mount
BCM/Troy back up iron sights

Bravo Company Manufacturing lower receiver
BCM single stage mil spec trigger with light work done my local gsmith to clean it up.
Magpul CTR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul BAD lever
Vickers Combat Applications two point sling

This is a light weight, very soft shooting carbine for my wife. she likes it, I love it and shoot it a lot more than she does. It is incredibly soft shooting with the 14.5" with the mid length gas system and the very effective (and very loud) PWS compensator.

"The Mk18"

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8160/6958443120_947d4f2727_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8158/6957182466_b7a1bb719e_b.jpg

Lewis Machine & Tool upper
LMT 10.5” 1 in 7” twist chrome lined barrel 5.56 NATO chamber A2 flash hider Carbine Length gas system with H buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 10.0 Lite rail
Magpul XTM rail panels with custom texturing
Surefire X300 weapon light
Gear Sector Hand Stop

EOTech XPS Larue QD mount
Troy back up iron sights

Lewis Machine & Tool lower receiver
LMT single stage mil spec trigger with light work done my local gsmith to clean it up.
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul BAD lever
Blue Force Gear UDC padded single point sling

This is my home defense and work carbine. It is 100% reliable and MOA accurate it is extremely fast and easy to make hits from bad breath distances to 300 yards. I don't make a trip to the range when this doesn't come a long. It has performed flawlessly for thousands of rounds even going more than 2,000 rounds without being cleaned.

Things I am thinking about changing:

Muzzle devices may all be changed to accept a sound suppressor.
Better triggers for the two single stage carbines, perhaps the ALG Defense ACT, or the Geissele.
When they are shot out a Light Weight 14.5" barrel for the "M4" and an 11.5" for the "Mk18"

Cameron

TangoSauce

26 April 2012, 10:17

Some minor updates to three of my carbines. I ditched the BCM 18" SPR as it was just too close in performance to the Daniel Defense 16".

"The Recce"

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/7104512809_d0ec367878_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8167/6957180812_70a1603035_b.jpg

Daniel Defense in house custom upper
Lothar Walther 16” LW50 Stainless Steel 1 in 7” twist barrel 5.56 Wylde chamber A2 Flash Hider Mid Length gas system with H2 buffer
Daniel Defense bolt carrier group with a bolt that is hand matched to the barrel

BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Magpul XTM rail panels with custom texturing
IWC Hand Stop
VTAC Light Mount
Streamlight 130 Lumen light
Leupold MK4 1.5-5x20mm Special Purpose Reticle 3rd Gen Illumination Larue SPR-1.5 QD mount
Troy back up iron sights

Daniel Defense lower receiver
LMT 2 stage match trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul BAD lever
Vickers Combat Applications padded two point sling

My attempt at the "do-it-all" carbine, a build inspired by the SEAL Recce rifle. This is a fantastic AR, I bought the upper from Daniel Defense before they were manufacturing their own barrels and they used the excellent Lothar Walther LW50 machined to a specially tapered contour they requested. This rifle makes me look like a better shooter than I am. With the tapered barrel it balances perfectly for me and is very fast at close range, it will rival the times I am able to get with my red dot equipped ARs up close and then settles down to put sub MOA groups out at longer ranges. I recently shot this on a known distance range and made first round hits on all 20" targets at 200, 400, 500, 800 yards.

"The M4"

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/7104512257_c403c53c47_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7273/7103251421_e649accf7d_b.jpg

Bravo Company Manufacturing upper
BCM 14.5” 1 in 7” twist chrome lined barrel 5.56 NATO chamber PWS FSC556 tactical compensator Mid Length gas system with H2 buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Magpul XTM rail panels custom texturing

Gear Sector Hand Stop

VTAC Light Mount
Streamlight 130 Lumen light
Aimpoint T1 Micro Larue QD mount
BCM/Troy back up iron sights

Bravo Company Manufacturing lower receiver
BCM single stage mil spec trigger with light work done my local gsmith to clean it up.
Magpul CTR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul BAD lever
Vickers Combat Applications two point sling
This is a light weight, very soft shooting carbine for my wife. she likes it, I love it and shoot it a lot more than she does. It is incredibly soft shooting with the 14.5" with the mid length gas system and the very effective (and very loud) PWS compensator.

"The Mk18"

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8160/6958443120_947d4f2727_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8158/6957182466_b7a1bb719e_b.jpg

Lewis Machine & Tool upper
LMT 10.5” 1 in 7” twist chrome lined barrel 5.56 NATO chamber A2 flash hider Carbine Length gas system with H buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 10.0 Lite rail
Magpul XTM rail panels with custom texturing
Surefire X300 weapon light
Gear Sector Hand Stop

EOTech XPS Larue QD mount
Troy back up iron sights

Lewis Machine & Tool lower receiver
LMT single stage mil spec trigger with light work done my local gsmith to clean it up.
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul BAD lever
Blue Force Gear UDC padded single point sling

This is my home defense and work carbine. It is 100% reliable and MOA accurate it is extremely fast and easy to make hits from bad breath distances to 300 yards. I don't make a trip to the range when this doesn't come a long. It has performed flawlessly for thousands of rounds even going more than 2,000 rounds without being cleaned.

Things I am thinking about changing:

Muzzle devices may all be changed to accept a sound suppressor.
Better triggers for the two single stage carbines, perhaps the ALG Defense ACT, or the Geissele.
When they are shot out a Light Weight 14.5" barrel for the "M4" and an 11.5" for the "Mk18"

Cameron

VERY nice.

Curlyburns5

26 April 2012, 10:37

Cameron, what is the reason for going with an 11.5" barrel when you eventually have to replace the 10.5"?

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Cameron

26 April 2012, 10:50

VERY nice.
Thanks, they are great to shoot.

Cameron, what is the reason for going with an 11.5" barrel when you eventually have to replace the 10.5"?

I want to keep the 10" rail and is is causing me problems with mounting a suppressor. So the extra inch should give me the clearance I need to mount the can. If I figure out a solution I would keep the 10.5" barrel as I want the SBR as short as possible.

Cameron

SuicideMyk

27 April 2012, 20:35

Just got my upper and lower today

This is my first ever AR-15 build. After months of researching and looking at thousands of AR's I decided I really liked Seekins and this is where I want to start off, it's gonna be fun [8D]

So far the only parts I bought is the Timney single stage skeletonized 3lb trigger, Battle Arms BADD ASS Safety Selector and Stag Arms LPK... I'm still looking at stocks and grips, probably gonna go with Mag Pul to finish off the lower...

The Upper I'm going to get the Seekins Float Quad Rail with the Noveske 16" 5.56 barrel..

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w427/Suicidemyk/SM1.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w427/Suicidemyk/SM2.jpg

TangoSauce

30 April 2012, 09:56

Cameron, maybe I'm overlooking this in your post, but what QD attachment is that on your rail?

Cameron

30 April 2012, 14:29

Cameron, maybe I'm overlooking this in your post, but what QD attachment is that on your rail?
Daniel Defense Rail Mount QD Swivel Attachment Point
https://danieldefense.com/mounts/sling/rail-mount-qd-swivel-attachment-point.html

david24

8 May 2012, 21:11

good post..A few AR-15 manufacturers incorporate the use of a hybrid chamber specification known as the Wylde chamber.

wkp2

12 May 2012, 18:11

Greetings to all,

This is my first post. I have lurked here for quite some time. I love the site, and find it to be a great resource. I shoot an issued M4 for work, and while it is set up one way, it is not MY way. I purchased a Colt 6940 in 2009 and sadly it sat in a safe for nearly a year before I started outfitting it the way I wanted it. For most of that time it was just an iron sighted tack driver.

Once I started thinking about what I wanted the rifle to do, I decided that I wanted my personally owned rifle to be outfitted similarly to my issued one due to familiarity with parts. Then, I started feeling and touching and sampling other components that were out there and realized that this gun would likely go through a constant morphing as I added and subtracted different ones on my way to assembling my preferred configuration. One thing that remained constant was that I wanted it to be somewhat simple. It needs a red dot, light, sling, and usually wears a VFG. I have not delved into the realm of suppressors, sbrs, and other such things YET. Currently this is my only AR, though I doubt that will be the case for too long.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yUD3Hu4arNU/T68Ei3igqVI/AAAAAAAACvQ/nInj3O-BUGo/s320/6940.JPG

If that worked, That is a picture of the rifle as it sits today.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iNjLE2_4yBg/T68EizCnYJI/AAAAAAAACvU/t2NOLhzhN4Y/s320/Aimpoint+M2.JPG

I went with an aimpoint M2 because its simple to use, inexpensive, and proven. I didn't have to wonder "what if it sucks/breaks/doesn't work right?" because there are thousands of them out in real world circumstances much tougher than anything I will put it through. The battery life is not stellar by today's standards, but it hasn't been a problem either. My issue rifle has an EOtech 512 on it and I am just not a fan of the "busy" display it uses. The simple red dot is plenty, and much quicker for me to acquire.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8p9Bmc9UPnk/T68Ei3a42JI/AAAAAAAACvY/wxsODys1jBM/s320/Fenix+light.JPG

I am running a FENIX led light and mount. I chose this light because it was incredibly inexpensive, and I have not completely decided what type of light/mount/position I want on this rifle. A local store was selling the light and mount together for cheap so I picked it up. Right now I have it set on the left side of the gun so I can access it with my right thumb when using the vfg. I am left handed so if this looks awkward, there you go. My issue gun uses a Surefire M900 which I have mixed feelings on. I think its a cool idea, but something about its weight and position of the vfg isn't right for me. If/when I decide on a different light setup, the little FENIX light can go into a backpack or something. It seems durable, and you can't have too many flashlights.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AovxEGHtgsk/T68EjTr5YrI/AAAAAAAACvo/0_fYhxHOA2A/s320/M4+stock.JPG

I use the factory stock. It is one thing from my issue rifle that I want to keep. Maybe its weird but I am so used to where my cheek and nose line up with my work gun, that I want to replicate that on my personal one. IDK why this aspect has to stay the same for me when I change so much else, but other stocks just don't FEEL right for me. Not to mention, its light, adjustable, and certainly works for any use I have come up with. I put this in the category of not fixing it unless/until its broken.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VgzxZQaYo8U/T68Ejnq5d0I/AAAAAAAACvw/weYJX7YdeuU/s320/MIAD.JPG

Something I never liked about the AR platform was the A2 grip. Its thin, oddly shaped and makes for an unnatural grip. I chose the Magpul MIAD because it allowed for the thickest grip from front to back as well as a slightly higher up gripping position for me. The ergonomics of this grip are superb, and provide me with a much greater feeling of control over the rifle.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zopd685kFn0/T68Ejq-cckI/AAAAAAAACvs/8u_vdKgg7iA/s320/magpulvfg.JPG

Up front I use a Magpul VFG. I replaced some other vfg from a brand I cannot recall. It was big, thick, heavy, and loose fitting. It was also very inexpensive. The Magpul grip allows me to be a little more indecisive with my forward grip as I alternate between using the vfg as a grip and using it as a hand stop when I grip the rails instead. I go back and forth on which I prefer depending on how much and how I shoot.

Also visible are XTM panels. These rails get warm, and I thought those would help. They certainly cannot hurt anything.

I use a 2 point adjustable sling. This may change to a one point in the future. The sling is a work in progress as it is another item that I don't love, but don;t hate either.

As it sits, this rifle weighs in at about 9 pounds unloaded. I use a combination of Magpul and USGI magazines all with the Magpul followers.

Again, great site, and I look forward to reading more. Enjoy!

Stickman

13 May 2012, 11:41

Good info, and nice carbine.

Hatter

26 May 2012, 12:14

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n638/MdHatter/Seekins%20Build/00647458.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n638/MdHatter/Seekins%20Build/b94be26f.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n638/MdHatter/Seekins%20Build/eb2c6a24.jpg

So this would be my attempt at a tack driving, 3 gun rifle.

Seekins Billet Upper and Lower - Lower was chosen for the bolt release and the different styling. Upper was chosen to match the lower and to allow for use of the iMRT rail. I didn't care much for the "geometric" style of the Seekins 3-gun rail so I went with the standard round rail. Its incredibly light and has a 15" length.

UBR stock, MIAD grip ad LMT ambi selector give me familiarity with my other rifles although the UBR adds some not-needed weight. It does, however balance well with the 18" SS bbl. I chose the Rainier UM bbl for accuracy with Wylde chamber and mid gas system. Gas block is a low profile Rainier that was drilled for pinning. The bolt and bolt carrier group are also Rainier, chrome thunderbolt. I wanted the ease of cleaning and added lubricity of the chrome carrier.

Trigger is a Geissele SSA. I wanted a simple robust trigger with clean break and short reset. I didn't see a need for the more expensive SD3G trigger. To keep with the ambi-controls I installed the Norgon ambi-mag release. This was more an experiment than anything else. I love the functionality and quality but its worth vs. cost remains to be proven. The remainder of the lower parts are RRA - cost effective when ordering individual springs, detents, etc.

Rounding out the upper is a Surefire MB55K brake, Surefire DD offset irons and a Vortex 1-4 PST optic in a LaRue SPR mount. I wanted a good competition muzzle brake and the reviews for the MB556K seemed favorable. Since there is a chance I grab a can down the road I also wanted the ability to attach to this rifle (another experiment). The optic choice was driven by a few criteria: cost, variable down to 1x, illuminated reticle and quality. The Vortex seemed to be the best option for all of these. While it is definitely not the most high end scope it is definitely great enough quality for me and feels very robust. The LaRue SPR mount is a no brainer for quality and robustness. (Yes, I'm a LaRue whore)

I literally just finished assembly last night. Did final checks and lube today and will be behind it at the range tomorrow!!!!

lamarbrog

30 May 2012, 19:53

goteron

15 June 2012, 21:18

I think I am finally finished with this gun. I'm setting up a second just like it, and selling everything else. It's everything I need, nothing I don't. And I am very happy with it for my purposes, the only thing I may mess with is the optic.

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa436/TacticalElitist/2ad5392d.jpg

1. LWRC Lower - A quality lower that I SBR'd before I knew better about LWRC. Its quality and within spec (Ive actually checked)
2. DD Upper - The best upper in the business IMO.
3. DD CHF 10.5" Barrel - Again, CHF quality barrel.
4. Troy TRX Extreme 9" Rail - I prefer tube rails, they are easier for me to grab, lighter weight, and I dont need rails anywhere else except the top
5. DD BCG - Again, high quality, excellent QC, and vetted
6. Extra Power Extractor Spring with Buffer - To Aid in extraction for a dirty gun, out of spec brass, etc
7. Vltor A5 with VLTOR Buffer and Spring - I previously was an A5 hater, but it does actually work, and doesnt cost much more than a quality Receiver extension
8. Magpul MOE Stock - Lightweight, Low profile, I don't need the friction lock, and use a Receiver Sling mount, so cheaper than the CTR
9. Noveske QD End Plate - Excellent design, Steel, and I prefer a receiver connection for the sling
10. Magpul MOE + Grip - I like the grip angle and profile. The rubber help keeps my hand in position when wet / slippery. If the rubber wears off, I will go to a MOE and stipple it.
11. BAD 45 Degree Throw Safety - Its quicker to get back on safety for transitions, carbine movement behind cover, running, etc. It also has a more positive feel than any other safety I have used.
12. Gunfighter Charging Handle - I prefer the medium latch, its easier for me to grab with gloves, and stronger than the aftermarket latches available. I havent had it snag yet, but am on the lookout
13. Geiselle SSA trigger - A great combat grade 2 stage trigger, the only one I would trust, non-adjustable, and just easier for me to shoot than a GI single Stage
14. Magpul Bad Lever - Its quicker for me to drop the bolt, and hold it open during malfunction drills. It has not affected the operation of the gun as its setup now, if it did, even 1 time, I would lose it.
15. Magpul Gen 2 MBUS BUIS - Lightweight, low profile, quick to deploy, and cheap. I like that they collapse when put under pressure. They hold zero, and I don't feel the need for the Troys, although they are bomber
16. Aimpoint T-1 4moa - Very lightweight, long battery life, and a good dot. High reliability. I usually keep it brighter than most people for quicker acquisition agaisnt contrasted targets. I may give a good 1-6 or Eotech a try on the timer. The T-1 is the fastest optic I have run in close. I can make good hits at distance with it.
17. Larue 660 Mount - The best T-1 mount in existence. Return to 0, though I never take it off, lightweight, and QD
18. Surefire M300a Mini-Scout - Single Cell, small, light, and best mounting system. Accepts surefires excellent pressure switches
19. Mount-n-slot Scout Mount - As close as direct mounting as I can get, light, and I can mount it at 11 o'clock forward. I would direct mount it, but then I couldn't easily get the can off.
20. LDI Class 1 OTAL IR Laser - A very simple to use interface, I don't need an illuminator, light, small, its direct mounted
21. Surefire SR-D-IT Dual Pressure Pad - Works for both light and laser, allows me to keep overhand grip and prevent white light ND's
22. Mount-n-Slot Flush Sling Cup - Light, and very low profile, Rotation limited, works great with the TRX
23. Magpul MOE VFG - Light, easy to direct mount (With modification) and works well with the TRX. Plenty strong. Works as a handstop when shooting, and perfect support for odd shooting positions
24. Mount-n-slot hand stop - To keep from shooting myself in the hand with a short barrel, direct mounting, lightweight, and low profile
25. AAC Blackout - A great flash-hider, required for suppressor. Not loud like a brake.
26. VTAC Sling - Adjusted, cut to length. Excellent quick adjustments, can be used as a shooting and carriage sling.
27. Magpul PMAGS or Lancer AWM5 Mags - Cheap, work well, and not metal
28. AAC Mini-4 Suppressor - THe lightest weight, shortest can on the market (AAC anyway). No blowback, only 14 ounces, and adds 3 inches past the FH. Suppression isnt #1 for me, but no back-pressure is huge

tpelle

8 July 2012, 12:24

As you can see from the following pics, I'm a fan of the 20" rifle.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c354/tpelle/AR_HBAR_20/DSCN0672.jpg

Currently I have two. The top rifle is set up as a NRA Service Rifle competition rifle, while the bottom one is a sort of general purpose plinker and home defense rifle. I'll explain the top rifle first

As I said, this one is set up as a service rifle for competition, so it has to conform to the rules for that category of competition. Basically it must have the outward appearance of a standard issue M16-A2. Internally a LOT of changes and upgrades are permitted. This particular rifle was my first AR, and started out as a Del-Ton rifle kit. Once I started shooting it, and having gotten interested in competition, over time I rebuilt it to suit that purpose. About the only thing Del-Ton that is left is the upper receiver, the bolt carrier, the charging handle, dust cover, and forward assist.

The barrel is free-floated under the handguards, which are hogged out to fit over the free-float tube.

The barrel itself is a White Oak stainless steel 1:7 twist competition barrel with a Wylde chamber and a front sight base that is windage-adjustable by means of two set screws that bear against flats milled into the barrel. In this manner you can adjust the windage POI to be zeroed with the rear sight centered, leaving you the maximum adjustment either way with the rear sight. Here's a close-up of the business end of the free-float tube, and the front sight base"

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c354/tpelle/AR_HBAR_20/DSCN0673.jpg

Note also that the front sling swivel is not mounted on the front sight base, but instead is welded to the front of the free-float tube. The sling, by the way, is a Turner Saddlery 1903 leather sling, which is pretty common in that venue. Moving the sling swivel to the free-float tube allows the shooter to sling up very tightly without pulling the barrel sideways and throwing the shots way left.

The rear sight is an Armalite 1/4 x 1/4 minute match sight, and the aperture has been replaced with a Micro-Sight (http://www.auburnscouts.com/stallingsmachine/microsight.htm), which is a new sight that has a diffraction lens in it (as opposed to a refraction lens) that allows the distant target and the front sight post to both be simultaneously in focus. This is a major boon to someone like me with almost 60-year old eyes.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c354/tpelle/AR_HBAR_20/DSCN0674.jpg

Remember, in NRA Service Rifle, the course of fire is shot with iron sights at 200, 300, and 600 yards.

Last is the lower receiver, which is a Doublestar forged lower holding a two-stage competition trigger by X-Treme Shooting Products LLC. (http://x-tremeshooting.com/index.php?page=X-Treme%20AR-15%20trigger). The owner of X-Treme happens to be in the same club as am I, and as a courtesy to club members who purchase his trigger he installs and adjusts it himself. This was the first Doublestar lower he had worked on, and he remarked that it was well made and everything was in spec.

Now for the second rifle, which I refer to as my "Kentucky Long Rifle".

But first a little background. As it happens, I have a friend and co-worker who sometimes lets his enthusiasm overreach his pocketbook. He had decided that he wanted an AR-15, and had decided to buy a rifle kit and assemble the lower himself. I advised him that a local gun shop had a bunch of Doublestar lowers in stock for $129.00. So one evening he drives over there, and finds that they currently had them on sale for $99.00! So he decides to buy THREE! One to use for his rifle, and two more as "investments". Well I bet that if his precious-metal investment strategy had been in gold or silver instead of anodized black aluminum his wife would have looked at the matter differently, but when she saw the credit card bill, suddenly two of the receivers went up for sale. So I scored a private-sale receiver for $99.00 + tax, for a total of $106.00. So now I had a receiver with no rifle. What was a man to do?

I started browsing the web and looking at uppers, and thinking about what I wanted to buy. I ended up deciding on another 20" rifle, but this time with an A4 flat-top receiver. The next problem was finding someone that had a receiver in stock WITHOUT the M4 feed ramps, as well as a 20" rifle barrel. The only online vendor that could fill my order in any sort of timely fashion was J&T Distributing in Winchester, KY. J&T happens to be under the same corporate umbrella as Doublestar, as well as ACE rifle stocks. Now J&T was not my first choice, simply because, as a Kentucky resident myself, buying from J&T added another 6% to the cost of my rifle in Kentucky sales tax. Also I had never bought from J&T before and so they were an unknown quality situation - but after surviving a Del-Ton rifle kit I figured I could make anything work. So I placed my order.

Since both the lower receiver and the assembled upper were sourced out of Winchester Kentucky, hence my designation of "Kentucky Long Rifle" (but with a modern twist).

Less than a week later it arrived, and I admit that I was quite pleased. The first thing I did was drop one of those laser-in-a-cartridge boresighting lasers in it, and I was pleased to discover that front sight appeared to be dead-on for windage. It has, by the way, a chrome-lined Shaw barrel with a 5.56 chamber and 1:9 rifling. I assembled the LPK in my Doublestar lower, and found that the fit of the upper to the lower was absolutely perfect. Initially I installed a removable carry handle rear sight, and with a box of cheap Remington bulk 55 grain ammo I went to the range.

I'd like to say that the range trip went perfectly, but as it turns out the ejector was shaving a lot of brass off of those soft Remington cases. After 28 rounds I was getting failures-to-extract because the extractor groove was filled with brass dust. Also, using my preferred 50-yard zero, I was unable to get it zeroed for elevation (windage, however, needed only two clicks left) as the front sight post was a little too short. I replaced the original front sight post with one that is 0.040" taller, which took care of the sighting-in issue.

For the ejector, I ended up removing it, chucking it in an electric drill, and running it VERY BRIEFLY against an oiled Arkansas stone - just enough to remove the sharp edge left over from manufacturing. Basically the idea is not to chamfer or round-over the ejector, but just to get rid of the sharp edge. If you can see any more than a thin bright line around the edge of the ejector, then you took too much off. Anyway, my next range session, which consisted of 98 rounds fired, exhibited NO brass shaving using the same soft ammo.

I decided to put a Red-Dot sight on the rifle, and settled on a Vortex StrikeFire. My son has been using one for a couple of years now on his AR-10 with good results, they have a great warranty, and they are available from Cabelas for $149.00 including the absolute co-witness mount and a 2x magnifier. I also added a Magpul rear BUIS.

I have the storage compartment in the A2 stock full of a G.I. cleaning kit (emergency use only - I normally use a Dewey coated one-piece rod), plus a small bottle of CLP, a broken-case extractor, and a lens cleaning microfiber cloth in a zip lock bag. I wanted a place to store an extra battery for a Red-Dot, so I bought a DPMS rubber pistol-grip plug, and keep a spare battery in there. I also added a buttstock magazine pouch to hold a 30-round magazine, which I load down to 28 rounds. By the way, when I was looking for mags for this rifle, I ran across a sale at Brownells where I bought seven 30-rounders for $9.99 each.

All in all I'm quite happy with this rifle. After fixing the ejector issue, plus a slight tweak to the gas tube to align it perfectly, as opposed to just good enough, I find it to be accurate and reliable. With the 50-yard initial crossing the trajectory of my normal M-193 style loads deviate only about 2" over line of sight out to the next crossing of about 225 yards. Plenty of range for my use.

Last addition was a sling. I decided I'd go "modern all-the-way" and put on a top-mounted sling. I tried some out at the range, though, and found two things that troubled me. First, most of them seemed over complicated, with all sorts of sliders and buckles and adjustments, and they seemed to, for the most part, require some other sort of mounting hardware usually found on a carbine buttstock, or they had to be tied on using parachute cord. Secondly it was rare to find one that was advertised as long enough to fit a 20" rifle. So I ended up home-brewing one for now. First, for the rear attachment, I used the back half of an old Israeli sling mount - the one made for an A1 rifle that usually used a big triangular "paper clip" looking thing to attach the sling to the FSB. I simply threaded the rear strap, which was a simple strap with a loop sewn in one end and a D-ring on the other end, through the mag pouch and around the buttstock. For the front mount I had a quick-release buckle from Boonie Packer, which I looped through the FSB. I like the quick release feature as a way of ditching the rifle if I ever fell in any deep water (no matter how light you think your rifle is, it will still be too heavy to make for a good life-preserver in a nautical sense), or if I became entangled in brush or in getting in or out of a vehicle. Connecting the two is a plain old G.I. silent sling from the VietNam era. It's simple, it works, and comfortably carries the rifle in a "patrol carry", plus it will allow the rifle to hang vertically muzzle down for safety reasons. So far I like it.

HeavyDuty

14 July 2012, 15:53

Still more evolutionary changes to the 14.5" carbine I described here (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?817-Explain-your-AR15-layout...&p=21574#post21574) and here (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?817-Explain-your-AR15-layout...&p=26621#post26621)...

1. After I built a MOE midlength last year to be my main AR (see this out of date post (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?817-Explain-your-AR15-layout...&p=28895#post28895)), I found the 7" handguard on this carbine to be annoyingly restrictive for hand position. Due to this I decided to change the Omega out for a Centurion carbine cutout rail. The slightly longer rail resulted in *much* improved ergonomics for me.

2. I've really learned to like the ergonomics of the BAD-ASS selectors, so I changed out the RRA Star for one.

3. Another thing I learned from my MOE midlength was that I prefer Aimpoints over EOTechs. I switched out the XPS for a PRO in a Bobro absolute cowitness mount.

4. I was finding the TLR-1 was getting momentarily triggered by rubbing against my porn star physique when slung, so I switched it out for a G2 LED in an IWC Thorntail mount. This gives me the same basic configuration as I have on my MOE midlength. The Thorntail is fantastic - I'm running it all the way forward on the rail top.

Final configuration? I think yes, but I've thought that before...

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/HDF62/AGP-2-5.jpg

HeavyDuty

14 July 2012, 16:13

And now, for something completely different. (For me, anyways.)

I've had the urge for quite some time to build a few simpler iron sight only ARs for purely recreational use. I wanted one to be a 14.5" midlength A2 with a retro feel, and the other to be a 20" MOE A4 with fixed rear sight. I tackled the midlength first.

Lower receiver - McKay Enterprises (via NoDak Spud) with a RRA LPK and a standard six position receiver extension. I wanted a visually low key lower (no spiders, Punisher logos or Hazmat symbols), and the McKay is about as plain as you can find. I've had good luck with RRA LPKs over quite a few years and builds, and the Milspec sized RE came with the M&A CAR-type stock as did the H buffer.

Upper receiver - an A2 with M4 cuts that I found used. I wanted M4 cuts to match the DD barrel extension. The barrel is a Daniel Defense 14.5" CHF with a BCM A2X that was permed by Adco.

BCG and charging handle - BCM FA with a standard CH out of the parts box. I still consider BCM's BCGs to be the gold standard.

Magazines - this AR will primarily be used with my stock of USGI 30 rounders.

Iron Sights - standard A2 with a pinned front sight base for durability.

Buttstock - M&A Parts "Fiberlite" type. This is the second time I've used these stocks, they are Milspec sized and well built. I wanted small and light with a retro vibe for this build.

Pistol grip - A2 to fit with the retro theme.

Handguards - standard A2. I think I'm one of the three or so people left that actually like A2 handguards. These ones (RRA, I think) are a little plump, but the set of smaller diameter ones I have creak like a mother. I will be looking for a set of Armalites to replace the current handguards.

Slinging - a Boonie Packer 2P-TQA with one of their SFSM front mounts and M4 Adapter rear mounts. Simple. I'll probably have the SFSM stitched to the front of the 2P-TQA like I do with QD attachments - no need for a buckle up there.

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/HDF62/A2-Mid-1.jpg

dlee25

21 September 2012, 20:33

RRA upper with M4 profile barrel shrouded by a Troy/VTAC rail. The primary optic is the ACOG with GG&G BUIS. I just had it Cerakoted by LTM Refinishing. Good buisness, Joe Larson knows what he's doing and it was a good price and fast turn around. The FDE Cerakote is a good match to the Magpul furniture. My favorite upgrade is the RRA two stage trigger.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/DLEE25_2006/LFH_7207_zps268cc2eb.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/DLEE25_2006/LFH_7201_zps336f7051.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/DLEE25_2006/LFH_7202_zpse3e060d0.jpg

BC98

1 October 2012, 09:42

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/brcook03/Firearms/SBRFreshPaint.jpg

I’ve had a couple of years to put some rounds through my SBR and have made some changes to the configuration as I have figured out what I like and don’t like. As a baseline, I started with a 12.5” BCM Kino upper on a SBR’ed Spikes lower (pictured below). Overall, I really like where this gun is at build-wise. It’s my primary whenever I hit the range.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/brcook03/Firearms/1006102139.jpg

Upper & Barrel: 12.5” Centurion barrel in BCM upper
I stuck with the 12.5” length but found that I didn’t like having the FSB in my line of sight. The BCM barrel shot great (popped some 6” and 12” steel at 400 yds with a 1-5x optic) but I was intrigued by the reviews of durability and high accuracy with Monty’s barrels. I sold the Kino barrel assembly and a couple of other parts I had laying around and picked up a CA 12.5” barrel. My initial sight in at 50 yards with a Mk 262 clone produced the target below (5 shots…I was pleased for my ability):
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/brcook03/Firearms/Centurionbarrelaccuracy.jpg

Muzzle Device: Surefire MB556K brake
Through some testing I have done at my job, I got a chance to try a variety of muzzle brakes and flash hiders. I found that I liked the recoil impulse and muzzle control that it provided. MN is still not suppressor-friendly but if that ever changes (or I move) I also like having the option to use it as a suppressor mount. It’s loud and brutal to other shooters nearby (or me if I shoot indoors) but I still love it.

Bolt Carrier Group/Charge handle: BCM mil-spec BCG and Gunfighter Charge Handle (Mod 4)
I’m still running the Bravo BCG but have added one of the Gunfighter handles and really like the additional purchase and general bulletproof feel of it. I bought it on a whim and was instantly pissed knowing that I was going to have to buy one for every other AR I own or build.

Handguards: Daniel Defense MFR 12.0
Through work, I got a chance to try out the MFR on this gun and really like the light weight and smaller diameter as compared to the previous setup with the MOE handguard. I liked that the entire barrel was covered and I also like DD’s method of attaching rail sections that does not use any backing plate that had to be fished around inside the tube. I do plan on eventually swapping over to an 11” rail of some kind. I switch out muzzle devices on occasion for testing at work and the 12” rail does not allow for easy access to the wrench flats on most hiders and brakes. I’m liking both the Noveske NSR and Troy Alpha rails but have also considered a KAC URX II or getting creative with a Bridgeport on a Centurion 12” rail.

BUIS and Optic: Troy Folding and ….Undecided
The DD A1.5 sight was replaced for the same reason as the FSB; I just prefer having nothing in my line of sight when using an optic. The DD was replaced with a set of Troy folding sights. I honestly haven’t used them yet so can’t give much of an opinion on them. For an optic, I have been running a Weaver Tactical 1-5x on an American Defense QD Scout mount. Both have worked great and I really like having the variable magnification for distance shots but the FFP design and reticle in the Weaver scope doesn’t work well with me on close-in shots. I’ve borrowed an Aimpoint T1 and plan on running it at a carbine class to see how well I like it.

Lower & Parts:
I still have this SBR on my Spike’s punisher lower. I have installed an ALG ACT trigger to it and a rear sling mount that a coworker gave me (can’t remember the company, though). I swapped over to a one of the BCM grips and found that the more vertical orientation suits me better. It’s not shown in the original picture but I’m also running one of the BAD ASS safeties. The ACT trigger is nice and smooth but I’m going to tinker a little with some JP springs to see how the pull weight changes feel. I will probably end up installing a Geiselle SSA eventually

Buttstock: Standard M4 stock
I have temporarily gone back to the M4 stock mounted to an VLTOR A5 buffer system until figure out what I want. For a while, I ran an VLTOR Modstock and a Magpul ASC-L and like them but they seemed overly bulky. The Troy Battle Axe was borrowed from someone who didn't care if I left it on while I painted the gun but is now gone, too. I’ll probably switch over to a Magpul MOE as I like the simple, functional look but don’t need the sling swivel mounts or locking mechanism of the CTR. The A5 system made a pretty drastic (to me) change to the recoil characteristics of the gun as well. It feels very controllable and flat on rapid shot strings. More than one coworker has commented to me on how little (if at all) the muzzle moves during firing. I am actually considering pulling the Surefire brake to see if most of the smoothness of the gun is due to the device or the A5. I do plan on experimenting with heavier buffers and different springs to tune the feel of the gun.

Sling: VCAS
I went with a Blue Force Gear VCAS sling for the adjustability and reputation. I prefer 2-point configs but currently have it in single-point until I find a good front sling mount (and rail) that I’ll stick with for a while. I was also interested in the SOB B-Sling to shed a little weight but haven’t decided yet.

Light: None yet (not shown)
I did decide to pick up a single output Surefire P2X Fury in the future, when funds become available. I like the light output this unit offers at the price point. For a mount, I’ll use either an IWC kit or the NSR-specific mount Noveske may release in the future (depending on rail).

Future changes/upgrades:
Light/mount
Aimpoint RDS w/ QD mount
Geiselle SSA trigger
MOE stock

aotech

9 October 2012, 18:35

Nice grouping and post!

BC98

10 October 2012, 13:13

Nice grouping and post!

If you're talking about my post, thank you. I was initially pissed because I was shooting some other ammo at the same time and could see the groups from the firing line and thought I had threw some shots on this group.

Slight update: Shot a short carbine class on Sunday with a T-1 and will definitely be picking up a Micro for this gun. Perfect complement of light weight and I had no issues hitting some steel silhouettes out to a couple of hundred yards. Figured I'd mount it using a QD base and can go back and forth between the RDS and the variable and be good out to some distance. I will also be switching over to a 2-point mounting for the sling.

crat996

11 October 2012, 12:49

Here are a few pics of mine.
It's a Noveske MK18 10.5" upper and a Spikes Tactical lower. Magpul sights, AFG and an Aimpoint PRO.

I am in the process of doing the paperwork to register a Noveske forged lower as an SBR. I want to get some Troy BUIS, an Aimpoint micro and the Magpul ACS stock.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8326/8077796991_c79c7def8b_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/crat996/8077796991/)
IMG_7441-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/crat996/8077796991/) by crat996 (http://www.flickr.com/people/crat996/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8077785222_fc775ae1fc_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/crat996/8077785222/)
IMG_7467-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/crat996/8077785222/) by crat996 (http://www.flickr.com/people/crat996/), on Flickr

crat996

11 October 2012, 12:56

goteron

29 October 2012, 14:01

Preface. I am not a collector. I only have 2 pistols setup Identically that I carry and train with. I have 2 carbines that are essentially the same. I have limited training time and thus want it to be on those guns I am going to carry / use. I have gotten rid of everything else save a few .22's.

http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/goteron/4EE6107C-A4EB-49ED-9510-9CCA936F8C72-1780-00000187775A2043.jpg

Bottom gun, top gun was posted about a few pages back.

1. Lower - Lancer - I wanted to try their new lower with Magwell. I am not sold on it yet, and if it offers no advantage I will be dumping it for a forged DD Lower.
2. Upper - DD Complete upper 14.5" LW
3. Rail - Troy TRX Alpha - I really like the profile, the lockup is great, and its what I use on my other gun. Very solid and makes direct mounting very easy.
4. Stock - Magpul STR on VLTOR A-5 System - Excellent Cheek weld without too much of a weight penalty. The A-5 Systems works as advertised, and makes both of my guns match
5. Grip - MOE+ - I favor the angle and profile of this grip, the rubber overmold has help up well and keeps my hand where I want it
6. VFG - Magpul MVG - Direct Mounted and length reduced. I only use it as a handstop unless I am shooting in alternate positions where a VFG is useful. This is the perfect length and size for me
7. Trigger - Geissele SSA - I love this trigger, and its the same in both of my guns.
8. Safety - BATTLE ARMS SASS 45 Degree throw. I find this safety has a more positive detent and the 45 degree throw helps me get it back on safety when I need to. Its well made and works well for me.
9. Optic - Swarovski Z6i BRT - I just got this. On a timer I can get the same times with this at 1x as I can with a Micro. Same gun, ammo, etc. I will be shooting it at a VTAC 1.5 class in 2 weeks to see how it shakes down.
10. Mount - Larue - I don't think a better mount exists yet
11. BUIS - Magpul MBUS Gen 2 - They are light, low profile and work well for a backup sighting system
12. Light - Surefire M600c Scout - Excellent pattern, easy mounting (Direct Mounted to Rail) - and robust.
13. Laser - LDI IR OTAL - I found the simplistic controls of the OTAL worked great for the limited time I use an IR laser. Its lighter and smaller than a DBAL. It is direct Mounted to save weight.
14. Pressure Switch - Surefire SR-D-IT Dual Switch - I have gone back and forth between pressure switches and clicky caps. I have finally settled on this configuration
15. Sling & Mounts - Noveske Rear, Mount-N-Slot low profile Front - VTAC Sling - The best combination of low profile and adjustability.
16. Muzzle Device - AAC 51t Blackout - For use with my Mini-4. And I despise brakes.
17. Charging Handle - BCM Gunfighter Medium - Perfect size and works as advertised. Works very well with gloves

I "think" I have finally settled on my perfect configuration. The only difference between the two guns are 1. Optics and 2. Slightly increased LOR on the 14.5" Gun. Everything else is as identical as I can make it.

So far I am happy with the Z6i, I have tried a few 1-x's and this one seemed like the best deal. If it doesnt work out at the next class I am going to go back to a T-1 on this carbine.

UWone77

30 October 2012, 09:50

dirksterg30

20 November 2012, 10:34

Rifle: Daniel Defense M4V3 midlength
Purpose: rifle for home-defense/training classes/range use

My first AR-pattern rifle was a Rock River midlength, bought shortly after the AWB expired. I purchased it when I was new to the AR platform, and not aware of the quality differences among various AR brands. Since then, thanks to this site & M4C, I have become better informed about the AR platform. I wanted to buy a rifle made to a better standard, and the Daniel Defense rifle fit the bill. I chose the midlength so I would have more options with placement of accessories (VFG & light). I wanted fixed sights for simplicity. Additionally, this rifle will be fitted with a non-magnified optic, so folding sights are not necessary.

Changes made so far:

The only change I have made thus far is replacing the pistol grip with a Magpul MOE+. The original grip ergos do not work for me. My other AR has a TangoDown BattleGrip, which works fine, but I wanted to try another grip out. My only requirements are an integral storage compartment and good ergonomics.

Planned changes:

Optic: I will be adding a 1x red-dot sight, probably an Aimpoint T1. I previously had an EoTech 512 Rev F on the RR rifle, which was acceptable, but I found the reticle to be too busy for me. I am chosing Aimpoint T1 for its reputation for reliability, and I want a smaller optic than the other Aimpoint offerings. I am unsure what mount I will get, but I do want a lower-third co-witness, and possibly QD capability.

Light: I will be putting a light on this rifle, but am undecided on what light/mount at this point. I like the idea of a tape switch, but I think the simplicity of a tailcap button is probably more reliable.

Sling & mounts: Again, I have not settled on the sling & mount for this rifle; I want a 2-point sling, preferably something adjustable such as the Blue Force Gear VCAS sling.

VFG: I may change out the attached VFG for something else, such as the Magpul AFG, depending on what works best for my shooting style (or lack thereof).

Other changes: I may add a Redi-mag/Redi-mod; in a defensive situation, I want to have a reload readily accessible, should I need it, and I generally don't sleep with a mag carrier on. Also, I would like an ambi-safety so I can manipulate the safety from either side. I am considering the BAD-ASS ambi safety for this reason.

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For comparison, this is the Rock River AR, bought when I was a lot less informed about the AR platform:

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Gunfixr

17 December 2012, 20:02

Ok, there hasn't been anything added here for awhile, so I'll play.
I wanted a rifle that would be a general use rifle, but the main goal was a rifle of decent quality while not breaking the bank. My main goal was reliability, with as much reasonable accuracy as I could achieve without sacrificing that reliability. It needed to work from across the room to about 400yds or so. I have a tactical bolt rifle for long range work if I need it. I wanted it to be reasonably lightweight, and somewhat adaptable.
I had acquired a Rock River lower in a trade. I removed the stock, pistol grip, trigger guard, safety and FCG pins. The stock was replaced with a Magpul MOE stock. The pistol grip was replaced with a Magpul MOE grip. These items fit me just fine, are well made, and reasonably priced. A Magpul Enhanced trigger guard was installed, primarily for the comfort of the firing hand second finger. A set of KNS pins was installed, not because I have a problem with walking pins, but because in most instances, the hammer pin rotates in the receiver instead of the hammer, which will wallow out the holes over time. Replacing the hammer or hammer pin is easier and cheaper than replacing the receiver. A DPMS ambi safety selector was also installed. This was for two reasons, one of which was use of the safety left handed, and the primary reason was that I find it easier and quicker to engage the safety with the trigger finger.
For the upper, a DPMS heavy duty match receiver was used. I wanted a solid receiver that wouldn't move around, and had no need for a dust cover or forward assist. This receiver is the thickness of the rear rib where it meets the lower all the way to the front, and is slick sided. Inside is a PSA bolt carrier group. The bolt carrier is of the FA type, with chrome lined bore, and hardened and chrome lined gas key. The bolt is 158 Carpenter steel, shot peened and MP Inspected. The bolt carrier group was chosen to closely approximate DoD specs, but at a bit less cost.
A Badger Ordnance oversized latch was used on the charging handle. This is the medium oversized latch, as I don't like the paddle latch, but wanted a larger than stock latch. Here the optics can be seen. The scope is a Leupold VX-R Patrol. It is a 1.24-4x20, with a 30mm main tube. It has a lighted circle Firedot with Mildot reticle. Turned down to 1.25, it can be used like a red dot, or the dot turned off and the circle dot with Mildot marks used. It is mounted in an ADM Recon-S mount, to be easily removeable to access the Magpul MBUS sights. The scope is quality glass without breaking the bank, and the mount is the same. Fighting type rifles should always have sights, and these were reasonable enough.

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More to come.

Gunfixr

17 December 2012, 20:37

Most forums I'm a member of limit a post to 5 pics, so here is the continuation.
The barrel is a PSA 16" midlength lighter weight profile. It is not as light as a pencil barrel. It has a chrome lined bore and chamber, rifling is a 1 in 7" twist. Chamber is 5.56mm NATO. This barrel was chosen due to it being basically the same as the FN barrels that the DoD uses. It is of 4150 CMV steel, hammer forged and HP tested. The 5.56 chamber allows firing of all loads, the lighter profile reduces weight, and harder, denser steel adds stiffness. The midlength gas system is much smoother operating. On the muzzle is a Smith Enterprise Vortex, simply because 5.56 rifles don't really recoil, and a fighting rifle shouldn't announce its presence any more than it has to. Handguard is YHM quadrail smooth freefloat. The reasons for freefloated are for accuracy, and since I don't need 8 miles of rails to hang 14lbs of stuff off of, the smooth is easier on the hands and lighter. A small rail was added to the bottom for a Magpul AFG. I feel the angled grip is more natural for me than straight vertical. The YHM handguard endcap was installed to keep out the large debris. Unseen, the gas block is a regular A-frame front sight I had pulled off of something that I just cut down to fit under the handguard. A rifle length handguard both covers the gas block and gives a rifle length sight radius for better practical accuracy. The front sight is the matching Magpul MBUS.
Now comes the sling. Over the years, I've played with most sling systems and attachment methods, and all lack something. In my mind, all firearms serve a primary purpose; the last line of defense for free citizens. Any other uses (range, hunting, 3-gun) are secondary. After trying a 3-point, I just wasn't going back. I mostly use a 2-point, with rare use of a single point. I wanted a sling that was easy to take off and put on, could go from single point to 2-point, and be quiet. Loops with webbing threaded through them are quiet, but very slow to install or remove the sling, and don't transition from 2-point to single point very well. Hooks on eyes are easy on and off, and transition well, but are noisy. Push button swivels are easy on and off, and reasonably quiet, but don't transition well unless you have extra sockets, which doesn't always work well. My solution was to have buckles. I cut some webbing and stitched loops holding the female ends of a buckle at the stock and rear end of the handguard. They are double layered webbing for long lasting durability. I took a CQB Solutions 3-point sling I had, and converted it to run as a 2-point sling, with male buckles at each end. Additionally, an extra female buckle was added at the rear end so that the front buckle could be moved to the rear end of the sling, making a loop, a single point sling. The front buckle on the rifle will make a small amount of noise on the handguard, but only when there is no sling attached. Other than that, it's quiet, and fast. The rear is attached through a small slot in the stock, and allows quick switching of sides with the rifle. The front is attached via a custom mount that I made from 6061 T6 aluminum and screwed into the rearmost rail attachment hole in the handguard. First, the hole was opened up from 4-40 to 6-48, to use a larger, stronger screw. The rearmost hole on the other side was opened up also, should I suddenly become left-handed. The mount is cut to sit flush against the handguard, and slotted to fit the rail area ridge. Between that and the tabs at the rear, it is locked from movement even though it has but one screw attaching it.
Since Parkerizing isn't really a great protective coating by itself, it is primarily designed to hold oil to protect the surface, exteral parts such as the barrel, flash hider, and castle nut, as well as the sling mount were finished in flat black Norrells Moly Resin. Since the handguard came in flat black, it was finished in FDE Norrells Moly Resin.
Since we're not fighting for our freedoms here, and gangs of thugs aren't busting in my front door at night, it mostly gets range time and 3-gun matches.

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Gunfixr

17 December 2012, 20:41

The 3-gun set. The pistol is my everyday carry. I use the rifle as-is, and use field type gear, not 3-gun racing gear. I'm not trying to win, I'm trying to improve the skills I cannot get on the square range, such as shooting on the move, transitions, etc. I mostly cannot afford classes, so for now, this is as good as it gets.

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rob_s

18 December 2012, 02:14

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I originally assembled this rifle to take Randy Cain's Carbine 1 course in 2010. I wanted to get back to basics and take the class with iron sights for an article in SWAT. I used round A2 handguards on the gun and an M4 stock at that time. Since then I went to the MOE forend and VFG, and the A1-length Cavarms stock. I initially added a Mount-N-Slot QD socket at the rear of the MOE, found it interfering with my reloads, and installed a second near the FSB. I also installed a QD slot on the ejection-port-side of the stock. I removed the original sling swivel from the stock and replaced it with a nut I got at Home Depot. I got the bumpless A2 grip (it's different than an A1) from Accurate Armory when I posted on my facebook page that I was going to be like most online reviewers and start basing my opinions on who gave me free stuff and that my opinions were now for sale. They thought it was funny, which it was meant to be, and sent me a stock and a grip, both of which I like, and one of which I'm using on this gun (I'll leave it to you to decide if I sold my soul for a stock and a grip). The sling I've been using is the Sherriff of Baghdad from Mission Ready Equipment, but I don't like the mounting hardware so I went back to the BFG padded with sewn-in swivels because it was sitting around not being used. I like the tan furniture because I live in Florida and guns sit in the sun and get hot.

The A2 handguard just wasn't cutting it but only because I wanted to add a sling mounting option. Later on it was helpful to have it there when I wanted to add the VFG. For the kind of shooting I do, and with the excellent training in how to take advantage of it I received at a Viking Tactics course, the VFG is just indispensable. The same event where I had this epiphany is the event where I realized the bayonet lug was just getting in the way. I came home and ground it off and installed the VFG.

The stock was the result of some free time one weekend where I took every gun out of the safe, set the stock to the position where I'd normally shoot it, and measured them. I discovered that they were almost all at A1, and some were at A2, length. If I'm using the stock at a length that I can by a fixed stock, it makes sense to just use the fixed. As a child of the AWB, it's tough to get rid of the parts we waited so long to get back, but from a practical shooting standpoint it makes sense to use a stock that has one, fixed, part vs. multiple moving parts.

The rear sight is a Troy fixed, simply because I wanted a fixed and they were the only ones I knew of at the time (and still to this day, actually) that make a same-plane aperture fixed rear.

I leave the A2 flash hider on there because I regularly attend events with people shooting various cheaters (aka "brakes") and still beat them so I can't figure out what the brake would do to help me other than create more blast.

I have really enjoyed shooting this gun. I shot 623 rounds of XM193 through it with the A2 handguards and M4 stock at Randy's class, and then it sat dormant for two years (to the day) before I decided to start shooting it again. In the last month I've put another 523 rounds through it, all various steel-cased. I had exactly one partial failure to feed (meaning it pushed the round up partway out of the magazine but not all the way into the chamber, vs. a full failure to feed where the bolt fails to pick up the round from the magazine at all) and that was the first outing after 2 years of sitting dormant which I'll chalk up to dust/rust/whatever. That was also with the M4 stock, not the A1. I believe I used Pmags during Randy's class and have used NHMTG with Magpul follwers and Ranger Plates this past month.

Hmac

5 January 2013, 07:39

A couple of years ago I elected to build a couple of SBRs after shooting one and appreciating how easily they swung around. I rarely shoot beyond 50 yards. I went with 11.5 inch barrels based on Paul Buffoni's observation that that seems to be the sweet spot for gas system reliability.

On the one that I built first, I took a kind of "spare no expense" approach as well as paying no attention to the weight. I used a DD Lite rail because it's solid and light. I put (expensive) Troy sights on it. The front flip-up is mounted back enough that I can slide on a TLR-1 or a G2 on a Gear Sector offset. Also an RDS because I think that that's a must-add accessory on this type of rifle. I went with a BattleComp because I put one on my Light Recce and found it helpful in mitigating muzzle deviation. I suspected it was going to bark more on the shorter rifle, and it does, but I wear good ear protection and don't find it intrusive. BADASS ambi safety because I prefer to use my index finger to flip the safety back on - I've ultimately settled on crank on left side, stubby on the right side. Giessele SSA trigger because I factory-added it on a whim when ordering the Noveske Light Recce and really liked it a lot. At SHOT a couple of years ago, the Giessele booth was selling the things dirt cheap out of the back of their truck and I picked up a couple. Over the years I came to hate 3-point slings, switched to single-point and came to hate those. The current sling attachment that I use was an evolutionary process and set up to keep it from interfering with my support hand. Jeff Gonzales recommended that arrangement to me a couple of years ago, stock and forearm, I tried it and liked it. I put a Magpul trigger guard on it because this is Minnesota and I sometimes need something more robust than shooting gloves. The AFG...well, this was back when Magpul was the bomb and I drank the KoolAid. Since then, as the fad has subsided, I've tried other fore grip arrangements including a Gear Sector stubby and Gear sector hand stop, but for some reason on this rifle with this rail, the AFG just seems to work the best for me, so I succumbed and resigned myself to occasionally being perceived as a Magpul fanboy. I can't remember why I chose the iMod stock. I've been using them on other rifles since the modstock came out and just got used to them, I suppose.

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I do have a Noveske NSR 9 rail on backorder at a couple of places, thinking that my support hand grip may work better with the smaller diameter forearm.

After shooting that for awhile, I finished the other rifle that I'd registered. I elected Magpul furniture, after deciding that there was nothing magic about the VLTOR stock and I found that the DD Lite rail was a little bulky and the gun was a little heavy. I skipped the Troy BUIS after deciding that my need for expensive iron sights was minimal such that MBUS would be more than "good enough" . I also found that I rarely, if ever, needed a light. I was still convinced of the need for an RDS, BADASS, BattleComp, trigger guard, Giessele SSA, and sling arrangement. I attached an IWB QD socket to the forearm, selected the CTR for its QD socket. I like the CTR. That rifle weighs 6.7 lbs compared to 7.4 lbs for the other SBR, but the green one is much lighter on the front end and is much easier to swing around.

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Since I took these pictures, I switched the pistol grips to the Magpul MOE+ overmolded ones. I have an overmolded stock on my Ruger rifle and really like the feel.

philpac33

19 February 2013, 00:30

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Just picked up my first AR, built for me last week. Being a lifelong resident of the Puget Sound area of Washington, I wanted to be sure to represent some of the fine local companies, all of which have excellent reputations in the AR community from what I've come to understand. I've been a pretty serious shooter of the defensive handgun for about 5 years and a hunter/casual shooter for 12-15 and I've wanted an AR-style rifle for most of that time. I've spent hundreds and hundreds of hours reading and researching modern combat handguns and rifles- been a member of many forums(and a lurker on others), magazines, blogs, twitter posts, YouTube videos, etc. I've never been one to settle for something just because it was affordable- if I can't get the gun/boat/watch that I really want, I go without it until I have the cash to get what I want the first time, thus me just now finally acquiring my first Personal Defense Rifle.
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**BCM Mod0 Compensator- At first all I wanted was a flash suppressor. Not a plain A2 birdcage but something a little more interesting. Then I looked into Battlecomps and seeing that the side concussion and muzzle blast had been mitigated, I looked into comps further. The BCM caught my eye and after reading reviews and watching side-by-side tests on YouTube, put this to the top of my muzzle device list. It seems to be the best balance of flash hider/compensator.
**Rainier Arms Select 16" 5.56mm MEDCON Barrel- My guy behind putting this thing together suggested a chrome-moly barrel early in our discussion but I wanted chrome lined. He had some barrels on hand including a 14.5" Rainier Arms Select and I dug it but wanted a 16'' midlength. I was extremely pleased when he found one a few days into the search. We discussed twist at length and after giving 1/7'' and 1/9'' much thought, a lightbulb went off telling me to get 1/8''. I should be able to stabilize 50 grain varmint bullets AND 75 grain Sierra Match Kings. I get the benefits of polygonal rifling and it's guaranteed to shoot sub-MOA with match ammo. M4 feed ramps, MPI tested, improved longevity. And I think it looks pretty cool in the matte stainless finish, just peeking out from under that long rail.
**Diamondhead BUIS/ Rainier Arms Logo- I first saw these on the Rainier Arms RUC, which happens to be the complete rifle I had been planning to buy until Sandy Hook happened and they became unavailable. I immediately became fond of them but I definitely wasn't set on them being the ones I really wanted. I was open to suggestion here, even as far as using Magpul MBUS but was talked out of using the polymer sights. I considered most of all the more popular but sticking with the RUC inspiration I chose these. They do everything I need them to- plus I got the mark of a local company.
**Inforce WML-HSP- Specced by Haley Strategic Partners, they took the Inforce WML and added 75 lumens to bring it to 200 and gave it a momentary on only activation switch. It's lightweight, bright, simple to operate, and ergonomically designed. Waterproof to 66' and two easy lockout systems. I love this light.

**15'' VTAC/Troy Alpha Rail- I've never liked standard handguards and I didn't need a quad rail. I've really liked many of the modular free float rails out now and I wanted a long rail, again drawing from my RUC inspiaration. 15'' on a 16'' barrel or 13'' on a 14.5'' was what I liked. Mounts solidly and comes with rail sections to mount wherever I see fit as opposed to having to shell out more for the pieces I want. Very happy with this choice.
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**Fail Zero NiB-X BCG- This was something that I was not willing to skimp on. I considered others including BCM but my research produced the nickel boron Fail Zero as the apple of my eye. The testimonials of some big name players running these sans lubrication and the ease of cleaning combined with video evidence of such sold me on this BCG. Another component I'm extremely excited to run through its' paces.

**Aero Precision Upper Receiver- Local company known to machine mil-spec receivers, the keyhole pieces mate up solid.
**Surplus Ammo & Arms Lower Receiver- Yet another company nearby, using forged receivers from Aero Precision. Going with a pseudo-mated upper and lower(at least machined at the same place) really seemed to keep any wiggle between them to an absolute minimum. Plus I dig the bullseye rollmark and it's marked Tacoma, WA(Lake-woooood!!).
**ALG ACT Trigger- From the beginning I knew a standard mil-spec trigger wouldn't cut it on this rifle. I went straight to the other end of the spectrum and considered a Geissele but in the end, the ALG ACT was my choice for the high reliability of the standard profile sear geometry without the associated grittiness. I like the little bit of NiB color it provides along with the BCG and matte stainless barrel in contrast with the complete blackness of the rest of the rifle.
**Magpul MOE Grip and Triggerguard- both of these feel good on my hand without any of the frills I personally don't desire.
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**Rainier Arms Raptor Ambidextrious Charging Handle- Money well spent. Another component that I wanted to be the absolute best available. Awesome design, very solid and very smooth.
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**Vltor EMOD Stock- There were several finalists, all of which would have done everything I wanted. Very satisfied with this stock. Good cheek weld, nice rubber butt pad, plenty of storage, QD slots(future use), and locks up tight.

**Primary Arms Multi-Reticle 30mm RDS- Believe me, I want an Aimpoint. Either a PRO or Micro H-1 is on my list but it came down to whether or not I wanted to have some ammo to run through this rifle or splurge on the optic. I chose to use my budget to obtain some ammo. It really would be a crime to have this rifle sitting in the safe, collecting dust and begging to be run. From what I read, this is a good value and will do what I need it to do. I'm a novice in the AR game so until I can shake my Low Speed/High Drag operating skills, this will do just fine.
**Various Magazines- I have a decent amount of magazines from a variety of manufacturers: Troy Battlemags, 10-pack BCM Battleship gray USGI with Magpul followers, C-Products USGI, and a mix of used Colt, Okay, etc USGI. Pmags have been backordered but I'm not holding my breath. I refuse to overpay(tempted to use "gouge" but I don't need a supply and demand economics lesson).
**Magpul MS3 Sling- This is doing it's job for me. I like being able to quickly change from 2-point to single and the hardware is great. I plan on installing some QD sling mounts. Also would like to test out the Blue Force VCAS.

So that's my new favorite in the safe. A minimalist hand stop is probably in my future if I can figure out which one I can get to mount flush to my tube- I'd really prefer not to add a rail section at 6:00 for it. I guess for now my question is: what do I call it when somebody asks, "So what kind of AR did you get"?
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I apologize for the iPhone pics. Even with my wife's best camera I couldn't take photos like Stickman. I'll work on it. There is some editing to come on this post, Photobucket is not cooperating with me right now and I don't dare leave this in a closed tab overnight on this laptop. I spent way too much time for it to get accidentally deleted while my 4 year old searches for the "Gangnam Style" video for the 10,000th time so I'll have to just post this without the last few pics and hopefully edit them in tomorrow. Overall I'm extremely pleased with my first iteration of a Personal Defense Rifle. Enough of the cool kid stuff without going overboard. All critiques are welcome- at least for now.

Deckard

3 March 2013, 23:29

Decided to remove the write up till I actually go and shoot it. Will update when I get a chance.

Hmac

4 March 2013, 05:09

A couple of years ago I elected to build a couple of SBRs after shooting one and appreciating how easily they swung around. I rarely shoot beyond 50 yards. I went with 11.5 inch barrels based on Paul Buffoni's observation that that seems to be the sweet spot for gas system reliability.

On the one that I built first, I took a kind of "spare no expense" approach as well as paying no attention to the weight. I used a DD Lite rail because it's solid and light. I put (expensive) Troy sights on it. The front flip-up is mounted back enough that I can slide on a TLR-1 or a G2 on a Gear Sector offset. Also an RDS because I think that that's a must-add accessory on this type of rifle. I went with a BattleComp because I put one on my Light Recce and found it helpful in mitigating muzzle deviation. I suspected it was going to bark more on the shorter rifle, and it does, but I wear good ear protection and don't find it intrusive. BADASS ambi safety because I prefer to use my index finger to flip the safety back on - I've ultimately settled on crank on left side, stubby on the right side. Giessele SSA trigger because I factory-added it on a whim when ordering the Noveske Light Recce and really liked it a lot. At SHOT a couple of years ago, the Giessele booth was selling the things dirt cheap out of the back of their truck and I picked up a couple. Over the years I came to hate 3-point slings, switched to single-point and came to hate those. The current sling attachment that I use was an evolutionary process and set up to keep it from interfering with my support hand. Jeff Gonzales recommended that arrangement to me a couple of years ago, stock and forearm, I tried it and liked it. I put a Magpul trigger guard on it because this is Minnesota and I sometimes need something more robust than shooting gloves. The AFG...well, this was back when Magpul was the bomb and I drank the KoolAid. Since then, as the fad has subsided, I've tried other fore grip arrangements including a Gear Sector stubby and Gear sector hand stop, but for some reason on this rifle with this rail, the AFG just seems to work the best for me, so I succumbed and resigned myself to occasionally being perceived as a Magpul fanboy. I can't remember why I chose the iMod stock. I've been using them on other rifles since the modstock came out and just got used to them, I suppose.

http://SSEquine.net/sbrslings2ss.jpg

I do have a Noveske NSR 9 rail on backorder at a couple of places, thinking that my support hand grip may work better with the smaller diameter forearm.

The NSR 9 that I backordered in December finally showed up the other day. Install was straightforward, although it did take every bit of 80 ft-lbs to get the barrel nut timed correctly, even after selecting the best end of the nut.

I like the tubular rail concept a lot. The DD Lite was a little bulky for my grip and the NSR suits me much better. Plus, the lighter weight of the NSR 9, especially now that I could get rid of the AFG, makes for a nicer-handling rifle.

After installing the NSR, I sighted in the Eotech and irons yesterday. I was a lilttle surprised at how little readjustment they required. Both the Eotech and the Troys were only about an inch low at 50 yards. I think I'm going to reinstall the front sight a little farther back so I can mount either of my light options (Gear Sector or TLR-1s).

I shot about 200 rounds over 1/2 hour without gloves. No rail panels installed. I gotta say...it gets a little warm up there at the front. Long shooting sessions such as a typical carbine course are going to want gloves, or at least install the rail panels IMHO. I have the rail panels, but I'm kinda waiting for a broader array of options.

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I was a little apprehensive disassembling the gas system having had struggles with pinned gas blocks and FSBs in the past. As it turned out, the Rainier-installed pin drifted right out and the set screws only needed a little persistent persuasion. The VLTOR gas block wasn't installed exactly vertical to the barrel when it was pinned, but it doesn't contact the inside of the rail so no big deal.

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~~Mutt~~

15 March 2013, 15:45

Will post l8R

Deckard

18 March 2013, 12:35

Why did you choose those parts over other parts you considered?

Stickman

18 March 2013, 15:48

Why did you choose those parts over other parts you considered?

That is the driving reason for the thread, for people to explain why they went with the components they did for their weapon. The parts listing is nice, but doesn't fit the mission for this one.

I'm with Deck. I would guess you are in a post ban state for that layout.

~~Mutt~~

19 March 2013, 08:39

That is the driving reason for the thread, for people to explain why they went with the components they did for their weapon. The parts listing is nice, but doesn't fit the mission for this one.

I'm with Deck. I would guess you are in a post ban state for that layout.

Are you referring to my post? Hard to tell since there is no quote or member named..

Deckard

20 March 2013, 20:23

Are you referring to my post? Hard to tell since there is no quote or member named..

Sorry, I hit reply on your post seems like it did not work. We are talking to you, like Stick said this thread is not just for a list of parts but also the reason why you chose certain parts over others.

It helps readers with their decisions in a market flooded with widgets.

~~Mutt~~

21 March 2013, 18:34

Ok.. I retracted till I go back through my notes on why I bought certain items for the AR. I can start by saying I chose the Olympic AR 15 because back in 1985...it was an affordable and great gun...and still is today

Aragorn

27 March 2013, 00:48

I built this carbine with SHTF in mind. While I can only speculate as to what I may or may not encounter during/post SHTF, I do know that I can only carry one rifle at a time with which to deal with such encounters, and that I'll probably have to carry it for long periods of time. Bearing that in mind, I set out to build a rifle that was reliable, lightweight, and would serve me well from 0-600 meters with a focus on close to medium range engagements. I also wanted it to be ultra smooth and flat shooting.

This is the fruit of that effort.

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The barrel is a 14.5" mid-length Spike's/FN cold hammer forged. This was purchased before all the craziness started, so at the time I had lots of options. The Spike's, Noveske, and Centurion barrel seem all to be made to pretty much the same TDP, with M249 grade material and chrome lining, and being cold hammer forged. I also just as easily could have gotten a Daniel Defense or BCM in the pencil profile variety. However, I prefer the medium contour barrels as I feel they deal with heat better, and when I'm cranking out rounds in a hurry, that matters. At that point, so much the better just to go with a light machine gun grade barrel. I got the Spike's because it comes cheaper than a Noveske or a Centurion. I went 14.5" middy because they feel smoother than a 16", weigh less, are obviously shorter and generally better handling. I did fight with myself over whether or not I wanted the marginal gain in velocity of a 16", but ultimately the benefits of the 14.5" won me over.

Bringing the barrel to legal length is a pined and welded Battlecomp 1.5 in stainless. This was another tough call for me as I knew I wouldn't be able to (cheaply) change it. It was a toss up between this and a Micor, which is another device I've had wonderful luck with. I went with the BC knowing it would keep the rifle flatter than the micor, and part of the goal here was to keep things flat and smooth. I went stainless because it looks badass and breaks up the rifle outline better than black. I'm still not sure I made the right choice with the BC, as the micor seemed to give at least 85% of the BC in terms of muzzle rise mitigation, and did it while suppressing flash and not being blasty. Also on another rifle, when I switched from a PWS FSC 556 to the micor, the rifle gained about 1/4 MOA accuracy across the board with most types of ammo. Doing it over I'd take the micor, but as it stands I'll settle for the flatter, softer recoiling BC.

The forend is the stellar Noveske NSR 13.5. This was a part that I had no debate over. It's smaller, thinner, and lighter than pretty much everything else and I love that the keymods allow panels to lay extremely flat. I went 13.5" for a longer sight radius and to be able to grip further out on the rifle. A keymod rail section is attached to the front 6 o'clock to allow for my knights vertical foregrip. I found the KAC foregrip as used surplus at a gunshow for 10$ and I really like it, mostly for the fact that it is smooth and well contoured at the top. I use a thumb over bore split grip and the KAC is more comfortable to me than either a tango down or DD. Keymod panels and LaRue index clips keep things comfortable as the forend gets hot. Keymod panels are foliage and FDE for rifle breakup. A Surefire mini-scout is also mounted up front in roughly the 10:30 position. It is also FDE to add breakup. And because it's sexy. It is mounted in a Haley Strategic SBR Thorn-tail mount, which is sitting on a Magpul MOE rail section. The MOE rail was cheaper than a keymoad rail, and works great. This also puts the light bezel about dead even with the end of the Battlecomp. This is nice because the lens is forward of the redirected muzzle blast. An Inforce light probably would have been used if I hadn't already had the Surefire, purely due to cost.

The upper is a FN overrun that Rainier had on sale some time ago. The thought process went something like this: "Cheap? FN? Yes." And it was so.

The BCG is a Spike's Tactical NiB. My previous experience was with a Failzero, and I loved how easy it was to clean, that it made the rifle feel smoother, and the looks didn't hurt either. That was however all mostly bonus, as it was also HP/MPI, shot peened, and carpenter steel. Had it not been that I would have bought a BCM. Seeing how it was, I went with the Spike's version as it was cheaper than the Failzero. It still gets froglube. I also put in an LWRC NiB advanced cam pin. This is supposed to eliminate drag from the cam pin on the receiver. I honestly can't feel a difference, but there is no scarring inside the upper so I assume it is doing its job.

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The charging handle is a first generation BCM Gunfighter Mod 4. I like the size of the Mod 4 and this was before the Rainier Raptor came along. I would have gone with the BCM anyways as it's cheaper and I don't need an ambi CH. The BCM was chosen over a legacy CH for its toughness.

The lower is a Noveske Gen 2 forged flared lower. I got this to help facilitate a speed reload under stress and because I knew it would be in spec. It is very clean and has a nice aesthetic. I built it up using LWRC small parts, a BAD-ASS selector, and a Geissele SSA-E trigger. The BAD-ASS is used because it is a cleanly machined part with a smooth and positive throw. The SSA-E I got on sale having only ever felt an SSA. It was an eye opening experience when I first dropped the hammer on it and I found myself wondering if it wasn't too light for it's application on this rifle, but I have since come to love it and prefer it over the SSA, as it really shines when taking a long range shot. I also run a B.A.D. lever as I feel it is a wasted advantage (in terms of speed) if I don't.

The grip is from Umbrella, and while I really felt dirty knowing I was helping fund the creation of the T-Virus, I bought it anyways. I liked the angle of the MOE K and the BCM Gunfighter, but the Umbrella fills the hand better while keeping the same grip angle. I attempted to stipple the sides in Simonich styling, but you really can't tell by looking. It still feels great though, very grippy without being overly aggressive. Smoother lines and lava rock stippling was applied to the front. I also had to break the corners by the trigger guard. I am extremely satisfied with how it turned out, and can at least take satisfaction in knowing that if the zombies ever do come, I'll be using Umbrella's own tech against them. [BD]

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I used the Vltor A5 system on this carbine to help keep things smooth and flat. I installed a Springco green spring as preventative maintenance and to give myself the widest envelope of reliability. When putting this together I was concerned about how well the longer, heavier system would work on a 14.5" middy, but have since been put at ease as it has shown to be at least as reliable as running a T2 or H buffer all while being smoother. The stock is a FDE Magpul MOE and is wearing the extended buttpad. I went with the MOE because it was cheap, plenty comfortable, and a little stock rattle never bothered me. The buttpad is used because I find the contour and clipped toe to be very comfortable.

Optics and irons. This part was actually the biggest challenge for me in this build. The catch here was the desire to be able to quickly and accurately engage targets from 0-600 meters and finding an optic that would do that. I've shot Aimpoints, Eotechs, both with magnifiers and not, Acogs, and at one point owned a Nightforce NXS 1-4x. Aimpoints and Eotechs were outstanding up close but came up shy on longer shots. The Nightforce was nifty, but was heavy and still left me wanting up close. I discovered I preferred Acogs for magnification, BDC, and simplicity over the NF. Despite that, even the Acog wasn't perfect having excessive bloom in some situations and being too dim in others, and still lacked the blazing speed of a red dot up close. I even considered going with an Acog and an offset Micro T-1, but that limited me to one side and added weight. Thinking about what I may encounter during SHTF, I concluded I'd probably be best served by having more speed up close where I'd likely be dealing with people, even if it came with the sacrifice of precision at distance. This rig wasn't exactly a precision set up anyways, and I was more concerned with making effective hits fast than tiny little groups. I also happened to already own an Aimpoint Comp M4 so that's what it got. The fact that it takes a common battery is also a nice thing when thinking of materials being harder to come across. I still however wanted to be able to take a long shot, so I rezero'd at 300 yards knowing I'd never be more than 1.5-2" high or low from zero yards out to that. While hunting for iron sights I rediscovered the KAC micro sights. This looked like the answer I was looking for. The front has a national match thin front sight post and tool free adjustment, while the rear can be quickly dialed in for 200-600 meter shots. The thin front sight post is great for seeing (read: not obscuring as much) those far away targets, and while not exactly driving nails, I can make good hits out to those distances using the irons. While some people may think it's backwards to use an optic for up close and irons for distance, in this case it's just peachy and gives me what I want. My red dot lets me retain my speed while still being good out to 300, and I can deploy the irons for shooting beyond that. I typically leave the rear sight dialed in for 300 so it co-witnesses with my optic upon deployment.

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Not pictured is the sling. I run a FDE Magpul MS-2 that plugs into a Noveske endplate. I've yet to really find a sling I love, and I may yet go to a dedicated 2 point, but this works for now.

Overall this is a great setup and I seem to have achieved everything I wanted to with it. It's super smooth to shoot, staying very flat with almost no muzzle deviation. It almost reminds me of a video game, where you hear it and the screen shakes a little, but you don't feel much. I was a bit surprised when I weighed it with a loaded magazine and it came to 8lbs 15.5oz. So call it 9lbs. It certainly doesn't feel that heavy.

Anyways, thanks for reading. Let me know what you think.

thatdamngoat

27 March 2013, 09:01

Damn, Aragorn, it's like you reached in to my brain and pulled out the direction that I am going with my rifle. Love it.

MoxyDave

27 March 2013, 12:24

Nice gun and write-up. You explained your choices well and I think they make sense.

browcs

28 March 2013, 10:03

Aragorn...outstanding synopsis of the "why" for your layout. Well done and thanks for posting.

Aragorn

28 March 2013, 14:19

Thanks guys [:D]

Deaj

15 April 2013, 12:30

Carbine #1:
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Carbine #2
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These two carbines are built to be a configuration/parts match with the 'Two is one, one is none' philosophy in mind. They started out quite different though.

Carbine #1 was initially purchased as a Smith & Wesson M&P15T (earlier Troy equipped model, in-house production). The M&P15T changed over time while I experimented with furniture to find what wouldl best work for me (I have a neurological condition that results in moderate to severe joint pain everywhere so finding something I can comfortably handle and use effectively hasn't been easy). As carbine #2 was being re-purposed (covered in the next paragraph) the M&P15 had changed significantly. The bolt carrier group and buffer had been swapped out for a Spikes M16 BCG and a Spikes ST-T2 buffer. A BCE BattleComp muzzle brake had been installed as well. This helped smooth out the recoil impulse and reduced muzzle flip a bit (stock carbine-length M4 profile barrel is over-gassed). I installed a BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 charging handle (big improvement over a standard CH). The safety selector was swapped out for a Battle Arms Development 45 degree ambi selector. I'd initially swapped the stock out for a Magpul CTR then eventually swapped that out for a VLTOR IMOD - both were incrementally more comfortable than the last. The cheek weld with the IMOD was an improvement for me. A Magpul MIAD grip (medium backstrap) and enhanced trigger guard were installed significantly improving comfort and shooting with gloved hands. The (heavy) stock Troy MRF quad-rail handguard was swapped for a Centurion Arms C4 12" quad-rail. This reduced weight up front significantly and allowed for a more forward grip. I installed a Magpul RVG vertical grip which worked well as a hand stop for me. For optics I installed an EOtech 512. Weapon light was a Surefire G2 LED in a VLTOR offset mount. I used Magpul XTM's and ladder covers for the rails. Lastly, I added a Troy padded adjustable 2-point sling with QD swivels.

Carbine #2 started out as a SPR build. I found I much preferred my Remington 700 SPS Tactical (.223 Rem) for precision shooting so I re-purposed the SPR into a fighting carbine for my son to use while he still lives at home. Carbine #1 had been mostly sorted out when this decision was made so I swapped in parts that matched those I was sure would remain as permanent parts installed on carbine #1 (Centurion rail, Spikes BCG & buffer, MIAD grip & enhanced trigger guard, BAD ambi safety, weapon light & mount, Troy folding sights - HK profile front sight, carbine #1 has an A2 profile front sight). I swapped the 18" stainless barrel out for a 16" mid-length gassed Palmetto State Armory (FN) special lightweight profile barrel with a VLTOR micro gas block and an A2 flash hider. I also swapped the Geissele SD-E two stage trigger for an ALG QMS single stage mil-spec trigger. An EOtech 512 optic was installed. Since I was building this carbine for my son to use I let him pick furniture that would best fit him. He chose a B5 enhanced SOPMOD stock and a Knights Armament vertical grip (these choices were made because he'd been using a similarly equipped airsoft AR for some dry drills in prior years and found these worked well for him). He also wanted a lower receiver end plate with a left-side loop to accomodate his Magpul MS3 single-point sling so I installed a VLTOR SASE-2 plate (this has an elongated loop that accommodates the MS3 nicely). XTM and ladder covers were installed on the handguard.

At some point the EOtech's reticle and sight frame began to appear too 'busy' to both my son and I. This became increasingly more distracting over time for both of us - me more so than my son but neither of us much cared for it. This along with the short battery life and weight led us to choose a different optic for the carbines. With all of these considerations we felt the Aimpoint T1 Micro 2 MOA red dot would make for an ideal replacement. Both of us prefer an absolute co-witness to a lower 3rd so we chose American Defense absolute co-witness QD riser mounts. The T1 Micro's have turned out to be a significant change for the better.

Handling and shooting over time with the two carbines after #2 was completed several things really stood out for me. The lightweight barrel profile made a noticeable difference in handling and balance (for the better). I found the ALG trigger to be an improvement over carbine #1's stock trigger. Over time I found the SOPMOD type stock to be more comfortable than the IMOD. Both my son and I also found the XTM and ladder rail covers bulky and unnecessary as both of us most often shoot wearing gloves (the Centurion rails have no sharp corners/edges so handling is comfortable with bare hands as well). These observations led to some final changes.

I swapped out carbine #1's IMOD stock for a B5 enhanced SOPMOD stock and and #2's Knights VFG for a Magpul forward vertical grip. I swapped out carbine #1's standard lower receiver end plate for a VLTOR SASE-2 so that a single-point sling may be used. I changed #1's trigger to an ALG QMS trigger group. I also built a new bare upper receiver assembly for carbine #1 using an Aero Precision stripped upper receiver, a BCM upper parts kit, a mid gassed Palmetto State Armory pencil profile 16" barrel, PSA barrel nut & gas tube, a Spikes 0.625" diameter micro gas block, and an A2 flash hider (I wanted to do away with the BattleComp's increased side concussion). I moved the handguard/rail, sights, optic, light/mount, charging handle, and vertical grip over to the new upper and installed a spare Spikes BCG (moved the original BCG to spares). Lastly, we removed the rail covers from both carbines.

Aside from the barrel profiles, front sight profiles, and gas blocks these two carbines are essentially the same. Carbine #1 is a bit lighter out front but this difference is marginal in practical use. Balance is nearly the same for both carbines. In handling and in practical use they are nearly identical. The differences in front sight profile have no impact in practical use - my son simply prefers the HK profile. Both carbines can accommodate either sling (Troy 2-point and Magpul single-point). Both carbines are light (#1 weighs 7 lb, 9 oz, #w weighs 7 lb, 14 ox - weights measured with unloaded 30-round PMAG) and comfortable for me so it takes me longer to fatigue now than it did with any prior configuration. Goal achieved. [:)]

Specs:
●Carbine #1: S&W M&P15 lower receiver, Carbine #2: SA&A (Aero) lower receiver, w/ BCM lower parts kits
●ALG Quality Mil-Spec (QMS) trigger groups
●Battle Arms Development 45° throw ambidextrous safety selectors (Standard / Short+Thin levers)
●Spikes Tactical lower receiver extensions
●Spikes Tactical ST-T2 heavy buffers and carbine buffer springs
●B5 enhanced SOPMOD stocks
●Magpul MIAD pistol grips
●Magpul enhanced trigger guards
●VLTOR SASE-2 lower receiver end plates w/ single point sling mount
●Aero Precision stripped upper receivers w/ BCM upper parts kits
●Spikes Tactical M16 bolt carrier groups
●BCM/VLTOR Gunfighter Mod4 charging handles
●PSA 5.56 1/7 CL 16" barrels w/ mid-length gas system (Carbine #1: pencil profile, Carbine #2: special lightweight profile)
●A2 flash hiders
●PSA mid-length gas tubes
●Carbine #1: Spikes Tactical 0.625" diameter micro gas block, Carbine #2: VLTOR 0.750" diameter micro gas block
●Centurion Arms 12" C4 free-float quad-rail handguards
●Troy folding Battle Sights (Carbine #1: A2 style front sight profile, Carbine #2: HK front sight profile)
●Aimpoint T1 Micro red dot sights on American Defense absolute co-witness QD riser mounts
●SureFire G2/KX4/Z59 LED weapon lights in VLTOR Scout offset light mounts
●Magpul RVG forward vertical grips

Dos Cylindros

17 April 2013, 12:48

This is my personaly owned duty gun.

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Deaj

17 April 2013, 13:24

This is my personaly owned duty gun.

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The lower is a.....

Nice build and great writeup! [:)]

Dos Cylindros

17 April 2013, 18:37

Nice build and great writeup! [:)]

Thanks bud. It has served me very well as an all around carbine for general LE duties.

LanceCriminal

11 May 2013, 09:38

Here is my recently completed SBR. It was directly influenced by the MK18 based on sexy factor, also based on there not being a Geissele SMR in 9" available. The goal of this gun is a "bump in the night" rifle for now. If I use it outdoors, the optic would switch to a SWFA 1-4 to help squeeze some more distance performance, plus my eyes have gone crap so the magnification would be useful to identify targets and what's beyond.

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Video! Be gentle!
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The Build

Upper

Innovative W.A.R.: I chose this upper receiver as I had read about the benefits of the Noveske Switchblock, but I didnt want to have to deal with either cutting my forearm or having to use a shorter one to fit their gasblock. The W.A.R. seemed to have some good reviews and impressions, and allowed me to use whatever rail. One hiccup was that a tiny bit (less than 1/4") of where the gas tube enters the upper is not flush with the receiver, so I actually had to drill the bolt-up collar on the DD rail. All in all, I'd say it works as advertised. There is a noticable reduction in signature/recoil impulse with the can on in suppressed setting. The weapon cycled 55gr 5.56 193 Ball (Federal and Prvi Partisan) without hiccup.

DD 12.5" CHF Bbl, Gov profile: DD CHF barrels have very high praise, and I needed at least a 12.5 for my suppressor. Chose it over the BCM SS and standard barrels mainly due to weight and CHF. 100% satisfied.

BCM BCG: Due to the craze, I stole the BCG from my BCM 16" M4. Since the 12.5 is now my bedside gun, I'm fine with that. I will either get a Youngs chromed from Rainier, or just get a DD/BCM BCG once things settle down.

DD Mk18 rail: Chosen due to MK18 sexy factor, as well as the length being just at the max I could use with the suppressor. Light, strong, fairly thin. Love it.

BCM .750 Gas Block: It's BCM, was pretty much the pattern of the MK12/DD/Badger gas block, so I went with it. Works great, Robb Jensen at VA Arms dimpled the barrel for me. Rock solid.

BCM Gunfighter C/H (new version): I love my old model C/H, and hoped the new model would provide some "gasbuster" like properties. Didn't exactly do that, so either I will try the RTV mod or maybe even try drilling a port similar to the gasbuster.

AAC Miter Brake: I went with a brake due to the "sacrificial baffle" logic. If a Battlecomp version had been made I'd probably have chosen that. If Battlecomp is still offering their machining service, I might nab a Miter flash hider version and have them do the modification.

AAC SPR/M4 suppressor: Originally purchased for my Mk12 M0d. 0, I read some stuff by Stickman on the SPR/M4 on the 12.5" Switchblock Noveske rifles, which is what shoved me into finally getting an SBR and Suppressor. The can was also picked because the Mk12 uses the Ops Inc. 12th model, a reflex can, and I wanted to at least emulate that on my SPR. To me it seemed better to do the AAC can because the 12th Model requires specific profiling on the barrel, and I wanted to use the can on a few different 5.56 rifles.

Lower

Precision Firearms Billet lower: PF frequents the Nation's Gun Show in Virginia, so I took a look at their lower. I liked the design, and it ended up fitting super-snug with every upper I owned. I can't say the same about my POF lower (a $2K rifle)... Either way, I'm pleased with the lower. Good anodizing, very snug, built in big trigger guard and slight magwell flare. Would def buy another for non-milspec clone type rifles like a Recce.

PSA LPK w/ ALG ACT: I went with the PSA LPK due to availability, and the package with the ALG trigger. Heard good things about the ACT, and I'd say they were warranted. The trigger is crisp, nice reset. As far as the rest of the LPK, I'm not sure that they use "top shelf" parts, since while trying to push out a snug takedown pin, I easily scratched off the finish of the pin with a soft metal punch... Didn't seem like it was anodized or finished like my LMT lower's parts, or the M16/M4's I used in the Marines. Everything fit though, and it works. The selector has broken in nicely at least.

BCM Gunfighter grip, mod 1: I wanted to try the new grip, and I like it. One issue was that it was super snug, and did not fit correctly in the rear of the grip. I had to dremel along the backstrap to relieve it a bit. It still is not 100% flush to the receiver, but I'm not super worried about that. I like the grip, a bit different but I'm getting used to it.

BCM Buffer tube, H2 Buffer: Innovative Arms recommended an H2 buffer with their receiver. Thus far it works as advertised. This was substituted from my first choice, the Vltor A5 system, but they are unobtanium right now. Still another 2-3 months from when they told me they might get them back in stock. I wanted to shoot my rifle for the first time on my Bday, so I just got the BCM parts. (2nd choice, but still works and is great quality!)

B5 Sopmod stock: I liked the LMT Sopmod on my Defender 2000 lower, so I figured a Sopmod for way less was a great option. It is just about the same, with the rotation-limited QD sling point. Also chosen for MK18 clone sexiness.

iKickHippies SLAP Plate: I originally wanted to use Mash Hooks front and back, hence the SLAP plate. The only problem is that in that config, the rear sling always ended up in my cheekweld area on the stock... The part is well made, I like it, but until I can figure out the sling setup it's unused unless I use a 1 point for some reason.

Magpul BAD lever: I like being able to lock the bolt with my firing hand in position. Personal preference. Ability to drop bolt is also nice.

Accessories

KAC Micro Sights: I wanted to try and follow the MK18/SOPMOD Block II theme, but the KAC Taupe front sights were unobtanium, so I just went with Micro front an 300 rear. It fills the function of a BUIS, and is super low profile. I can actually fit my SWFA 1-4 over the rear with lots of room to spare.

Burris XTR-135 red dot, ADM mount: I got the dot a few years ago for $100 at a gun show used. It does the job, I've had no issues with the battery dying, but I don't leave it on. Will probably replace with a T1 if I can ever get the cash saved up, unless by some magic an Elcan grows on the tree in my back yard. I feel a 1-4 would be good for the rifle, but my SWFA bumps the weight above where I'd feel the benefit of an SBR is negated (though the suppressor adds much of the weight).

Surefire light, VTAC mount: I honestly can't remember what model it is... 600? Either way, it came with a pressure switch and was good and bright. Still haven't changed the batteries, but I barely use it. I tried the TLR-1 in the 12 o'clock, still wasn't 100% in love with it since it meant I had to move other accessories back. Might try again someday, like if Tango Down makes one of those FSB adapters.

Magpul XTM handstop/Ergo front grip: I originally tried the handstop alone, but it seemed to put a lot of pressure on my wrist and was uncomfortable. I think the handstop would be better server on a 12"+ rail. I am planning on chopping down the VG to more of a stubby, since I use the modified thumb-break grip and dont need the entire VG there. I have the Troy modular VG, but since it is metal the rails transfer the heat, and it gets very hot. I'd like to be able to use this without gloves, but usually shoot with them anyways unless something is going bump in the night.

TI Kwikguard rail covers: I have Knight's and these that I grabbed off of Amazon. They are good and stiff, not awfully heavy, and seem good and thick to buffer the heat. They are grippy, and cheap enough I'd have no problems cutting them down to fit wherever I want them.

BFG Vicker's padded sling: I have two VTAC slings, and like the quick adjust 2pt sling setup. Tried this one due to good reviews, and overall I like it. The only thing is I am a small guy, and it seems like I can't quite get it as small as I'd like.

Lancer L5 magazine, Remington Gold Medal Match 77gr ammo: I like the L5 magazines for some reason, the clear is kind of nice for in the house if I had to quickly look at capacity. It somehow "feels" lighter than a PMAG, but it might just be a mind trick. I have yet to have any feed issues with this magazine. 2 Pmags with SS109 sit in my chest rig next to the rifle at the foot of the bed, so if for some ungodly reason I actually have some serious worst-case-scenario body armored folks in the house, hopefully the 109 might come in handy. The 77 GMM is the heaviest stuff I have right now. I am not sure whether the Hornady TAP stuff will cause a problem in my suppressor, as they seemed to warn against hollowpoint bullets and such to make sure they don't come apart in the can. If TAP is consider kosher with my suppressor, I might switch to that as my primary mag in the rifle.

LMMzach

24 August 2013, 10:18

Subbing to this exactly what I was looking for!

ezterra

11 October 2013, 23:13

I believe this is my first post here. I figure I can start with my recent build I just completed last week. What and why I went with what I did. First off, I am in the Army, and I am an enthusiast of tac rifle/multi gun. I also really enjoy taking classes when I available and when I can afford it. This build started as my no holds barred dream rifle. This rifle was intended to be a general purpose rifle that I would use for training classes, HD, as well as kind of a test bed for things I might like to use on my issued M4. Here's the parts list:

Lower Receiver

AXTS AX556 Lower Receiver - I wanted a fully ambi lower without any gizmos hanging off of it to achieve this. I also really like the looks of the AX556.
White Oaks Armament Small Parts - Price was right, I could order individual pieces, and from what I could gather, they make quality parts.
Geissele Super Dynamic 3 Gun Trigger - I wanted a fast trigger for shooting matches.
BCM Gunfighter Mod 1 Grip - Never tried a reduced angle grip, and wanted to try one.
PWS 416 Enhanced Buffer Tube - I got "hooked up" with one a couple of years ago, and I really like it. So I decided to go with it on this build. I like its mounting solution. No castle nut. Don't have to worry about staking etc. Easy to remove if need be. Comes with QD sockets, and it looks good.
BAD-CASS-ST - Do I need to explain why I went with a Battle Arms Development selector? I really like the short throw. It's so much easier to take on and off of safe.
Standard H Buffer - So far works fine with M855, MK262 and PRVI 55 grain 5.56. It ejects all 3 loads at around the 4 o'clock. I do plan to shoot some weaker PMC .223 to make sure it'll eat everything I use. If it still eats up the PMC, I may try going with a H2 buffer.
Sprinco Enhanced (blue) buffer spring - Basically from doing research, it seemed like the enhanced spring was the way to go. So far it's proving to be very reliable.
Magpul ACS Stock - I like having stocks with a wider cheek weld. I really like Vltor stocks, but I thought I'd try out the Magpul. I also like having storage compartments. For me, it's a good place to store a spare battery, small bottle of lube, and ear plugs.

Upper Receiver
Vltor MUR 1A - It seems others who have been running the AX556 had good fitment with the Vltor upper. I also like having the forward assist. Again, the Vltor receiver just looks good too.
Noveske 14.5" N4 LP Chrome Lined Barrel (Mid Length) - I wasn't going for a precision rifle, but I wanted the most accurate CL barrel I could get. Apparently Noveske has it. I wanted durability first and foremost, and I felt Noveske had what I was looking for.
Noveske Low Pro Gas Block - Comes with the barrel, and it comes ready to be pinned. The barrel and gas block is already drilled. The gas block uses a pin and set screw to secure it in place.
Noveske Mid Length Gas Tube - It comes with the barrel. No brainer here.
13.5" Noveske NSR Hand Guard - I wanted a slim, slick rail that was light weight and had a solid mount. Noveske delivers with the NSR. It is absolutely rock solid and feels really good.
Surefire SFMB556 Muzzle Brake - This was a tough choice. I plan to get a SOCOM556 suppressor at some point so I went with a Surefire muzzle device. I chose the brake over the flash hider because I figured that once I have the suppressor, the downsides to the brake (ie noise and flash) will be a moot point. Then when I want to shoot a match, the brake will be much better to have than a FH.

Optics
Leupold Mark 6 1-6x with CMR-W Reticle on Larue LT104 Mount- I'm used to Eotechs but really wanted to go with a low power variable. I chose the CMR-W reticle because I didn't intend this rifle to be a precision rifle. I wanted a simple BDC type of reticle. Something I could easily use to hold over. If anyone is considering this scope and wants more precision out of their rifle, the TMR reticle would be much more advantageous. The horseshoe/dot of the CMR-W reticle makes it difficult to make consistent long range shots, but it's fast and easy to use. I shot last weekend in the evening right through dusk and in to the night. The range had a few flood lights out to light up the targets, and the Mark 6 was amazingly bright. I could still easily see my 200 yard zero targets.
Aimpoint Micro T1 4 MOA on Larue LT724 Offset Mount - Ok, here's where I get a lot of flack. But I'm really liking the set up so far. While I was in Afghanistan 2012-2013, I found there were some serious shortcomings with my issued Eotech 553 and FTS 3x magnifier. First off, the 3x was never quite enough mag to PID past 300 meters. Not only was 3x a little on the weak side, the optical quality of the magnifier was horrible. That's why I thought the Mark 6 would be so much nicer. The other issue I had was keeping my optics clean. I was constantly wiping my Eotech and magnifier to get dirt, dust, sweat, rain or whatever off the glass. Any crap on the glass made an already poor optic really bad. With a dual optic set up, I can keep the lens covers closed on the Mark 6 and still have the 1x T1 ready to go if I need to. Finally, the dual optic set up allows for very fast transitions from long range to scary close in fractions of a second. We have routinely been pulling security, scanning the horizon, then get engaged from inside of 50 meters. One time, we were engaged as close as 15 meters. This sighting system would allow me to scan the horizons on 6x, yet have a RDS ready to go if need be by simply canting the rifle about 30 degrees. So far I'm really liking the set up.

Furture Add Ons
Surefire SOCOM556 Suppressor - It might be a little while before I get this. I'm due for a PCS. So I have to wait and see if I'll be staying or leaving.
Noveske Keymod Offset Scout Light Mount - This will be purchased soon. I already have a M300 Mini Scout to go with the rifle.
Noveske Keymod QD Sling Mount - This will also be purchased soon.
Magpul MS3 Sling - I like this sling. Used it for a year in Afghanistan. It held up great, and I like the versatility. I typically had it in single point when actually making movement since this was the most likely time of taking contact. I like single points when actively shooting because it offers the most flexibility. However, once I had to do things with my hands, 2 point is the way to go.

All in all, I'm extremely happy with my build. The rifle balances very nicely. A crude weight measurement of the rifle has it at 8.2 pounds without a magazine. The majority of the weight is in the rear third of the rifle. The front end feels very light, especially when comparing it to my LWRC M6A2 which is what I'm used to, and my issue M4 with all the crap we have to hang off of the rail. So even though it's a little on the heavier side, it feels much lighter. I consider myself a 2 MOA shooter at best, and I was shooting approximately 4 inches at 200 yards. So I'm confident that I'm definitely not out shooting my rifle. However, I would love to get someone who is consistently a sub MOA shooter to have a go with my rifle just to see what the rifles capability is. Any takers? I'll even supply the ammo. I haven't gotten to run and gun with the rifle yet. I plan on doing that this weekend. I really want to see what kind of splits I can get with the SD3G trigger, and I want to see how fast the Mark 6 is in comparison to my Eotech. I plan to run some drills to test the speed of the set up. I'll also bring out my Eotech and run a side by side comparison to see if a low power variable is any slower than a RDS.

So here are the pics:
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I'd like to add that Adco did a great job on the pin/weld job of my Surefire brake, assembly of the upper, and drilling of the NSR index pin hole, and WW Guns Inc did an amazing job with the cerakoting and hydropping.

Here are a couple of target pics. The first is a 10 shot group at an 8" shoot-n-see target at 200 yards. The second is a standard M4 zero target at 50 yards. Both were shot with Blackhills 5.56 77 grain (MK262). As you can see this combo of ammo and rifle is dead on at 200 yards and 50 yards. I actually zeroed at 200 yards in order to make use of the CMR-W reticle.

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I hope there is some useful information I put out in here. I'd love to hear some comments or questions about my rifle.