Explain your AR15 layout...

[UWone77]

Is that your duty rig?

[drewsy64]

Uwone77, unfortunately no it isn't. My dept doesn't allow personal rifles/shotguns. They utilize antiquated rifles that are from WWII. Not really that old, but you get my meaning.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

[UWone77]

Uwone77, unfortunately no it isn't. My dept doesn't allow personal rifles/shotguns. They utilize antiquated rifles that are from WWII. Not really that old, but you get my meaning.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

So what are you issued? Just out of curiosity...

[drewsy64]

So what are you issued? Just out of curiosity...

Colt M4's modified to semi-auto obviously. They're circa 1950 with a 20" barrel.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

[Nameless_Hobo]

http://img600.imageshack.us/edit_preview.php?l=img600/900/aqmy.jpg&action=rotate
http://img19.imageshack.us/edit_preview.php?l=img19/2177/y3mg.jpg&action=rotate

Assembled this after I got back from Afghanistan as a higher-end "go-to" gun. Pretty simple set up, honestly, which is what I desired. A reliable, reasonably light weight go-to gun. Still experimenting with it, I want to change the X300 out for one of the newer gen scout lights, (Higher output, more ergonomic, lighter and more durable.) and the Comp M4S out for a T1. (To save weight/bulk.) Also intend to add an IR laser, whenever I get night vision capabilities.
Going front to back.
Upper:
Pinned AAC 51T FS. Didn't want the blast unsuppressed of a muzzle brake, intend to get a M4-2k some day soon.
BCM BHF 14.5 inch midlength. Wanted the added durability of a hammer forged upper. I got a good price on it with a BCM BCG.
URX-3 rail, because of the light weight and small diameter. The integrated front sight isn't my favorite thing for a few reasons, but it is functional as a BUIS, and saves me weight over a bolt on front sight. Removed the heat shield, because I never put my hand there, and it saved me about an ounce of weight.
X300, got it for a good price, I have moved it around quite a few times, trying to find a position I like. I am presently experimenting with a remote switch again, I broke the light with a remote switch on it the first time I used it. I put a modified KAC rail panel underneath the remote battery cap in order to support it, as a result. I'm not a giant fan of this set up, but I am playing with it until I pick up a Scout light.
Low pro rail covers, light and not bulky. I feel they do an adequate job.
I modified a Glock floor plate and direct attached it to a hold in the bottom of the URX. Cheap, functional, and small hand stop.
RSA: needed a front sling mount, it works and is small.
Comp M4S. Bought it used for $500, I wanted a 2moa sight and I purchased it before the T1 2MOA was released. Looking to replace it soon.
KAC 600m rear sight. Low profile, light weight, functional.
Using a "prototype" marked BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle, for usual reasons. $25, and it works just as well for me as a production model.

Lower:
JP LPK: Bought it because it's a quality kit and available without a trigger group.
SSA: In my opinion, the best trigger out there. I'm extremely satisfied with it.
Magpul polymer trigger guard: Low cost, and I needed an enlarged trigger guard because I often wear gloves when I shoot.
BCM GFG Mod 1: Played with it at Rainier Arms when it first came out, it's the most comfortable pistol grip I've ever used, so I bought it right there. Chose FDE because I now live in NV, and black gets hot in the sun.
Noveske 60 degree safety: Same story as the grip, bought it on the same day. I liked BADASS safeties, but I didn't like the price. It's a very crisp safety.
Magpul ASAP plate: Does not bind the sling at all, I took an elastic band off an assault pack and slid down on the loop, and it kills the sound.
Emdom Gunslinger Sling with HK hooks: Bought it because I wanted a lightweight 2-to-1 sling that was wide, but light weight. So far I am satisfied with it. Really dig the quick adjust, and 2-to-1 capability. HK hooks because I had extras.
VLTOR buffer tube: Purchased because I wanted a quality buffer tube, and it was available. Not much story to it, honestly.
Magpul MOE: Originally a VLTOR Clubfoot I got a good deal on, I never quite liked the cheekweld on the VLTOR, I am too used to the M16/M4 style stock, I guess. Bought the MOE because I liked the CTR, but didn't need the QD or the friction lock. Wanted to save the weight and the cost over the CTR, and got the MOE used. Chose FDE because I now live in NV, and black gets hot in the sun.
Standard Carbine spring, I want to replace it with a Sprinco spring, but that's mostly to experiment with the claims of better running and longer service life.
Carbine buffer: I admit to slacking here, I had the buffer and have been using it, to no ill effect. I need to put a heavier buffer in it, I am sure it is slightly overgassed.
Lancer AWM mag: I have 6 of these I got for less than 10 bucks a piece. They're my favorite mags, although I have roughly 150 PMAGs put up, and quite a few USGI mags. I keep the AWMs loaded for HD.

All together, I built this rifle around the theme of being slim and lightweight, but retaining durability and functionality. I've got a few things I need to change to finish fulfilling that goal, but I have been in this configuration for a while. I've shot quite a few rounds with this rifle, it has proven to be accurate and reliable. Some changes need to be made, but that never ends.

[Eric]

Colt M16's modified to semi-auto obviously. They're circa 1960's (or so) with a 20" barrel.

Fixed ;)

[drewsy64]

Fixed ;)

My bad. Meds must've worn off...

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

[jacketjoed]

Hey there guys, new to the forums and saw this post and thought its an awesome concept. Sorry, only have one picture of my build. So here it is:

http://s955.photobucket.com/user/joethe5th/media/2013-05-04_09-59-30_231_zpsea9f6e44.jpg

This rifle was built with 3-gun in mind, had a few carbines that would have worked fine but any excuse for a new rifle is a good excuse to me! When I build this rifle I was just getting into 3-gun and noticed I had a gap in my collection, our local matches love to put steel out around 3 and 400 yards and my carbines with red dots could do it but I wasn’t competitive. So I starting looking around at what other guys were shooting, what the pros were shooting and what I thought would work toward my style of shooting. I didn’t want to spend a fortune but still wanted a good looking, quality, light weight rifle that would last and wasn’t in a huge hurry to complete my build, so I just watch and waited for deals to come along. Sorry I don’t have more pictures but this one will have to do. So let’s start with the what’s and why’s, I’ll go from muzzle to butt stock.

Upper:
I went with the PWS FSC556 break cause I had shot a few before and was really impressed with their performance and were not as loud as some of the other breaks out there (and not going to lie, I thought it looked pretty cool.) I knew I wanted a 18” mid-weight stainless fluted barrel with a 1-8 or 1-7 twists that could shoot 55’s and up. Found a good deal on the Wilson 18” 1-8 recon barrel that was pretty much exactly what I was looking for and couldn’t be happier. It’s a good stiff and light barrel that shoots 55-72 gr bullets with ease. When looking at hand guards, I wanted something that was light, grippe and smaller in diameter. I also wanted a long one since there is such a variety of barricades, props and positions used in matches. The Troy 15” rail was perfect, reasonably priced good texture for grip and smaller around so I can really get ahold of it (I have short stubby fingers.) For the upper, a buddy was selling a spikes matched receiver set and BCG for super cheap and I had heard good things about the company, so I bought them from him. Went with the Gunfight charging handle with the large latch for positive grip that I could operate quickly and with ease.

Lower:
As stated above the receiver is spikes cause is was a screaming deal, and I have been really happy with the quality of their parts. I put the CMC 3.5# drop-in trigger unit in cause it the same trigger I have in my other AR rifles and I love them, they provide a clean crisp single stage pull and mine have lasted well. I went with the JP Low Mass buffer and their polished buffer spring for quiet and smooth functioning. I had a heavier buffer in it at first, and the switch really made a big difference in the mitigation of muzzle rise. For the stock I wanted something fixed but light and a little cheaper than the PRS, the Ace Skelton stock fit the bill and has been awesome. I went with the MIAD for the grip cause I really like them, the its nice for sweaty hands and fits my hand the best.

Optics/Mount:
Ignore the front sight was just trying something out, I normally run the Magpul flips up sights as a back-up in case my scope was to break or mount falls off/comes loose. I like them case they are spring loaded and super-fast to deploy. When looking at scopes I wanted something that had a 1x or something close to it and went higher than 4x without breaking the bank. After looking at tons of different options I settled with the Burris MTAC 1.5-6, and have had really good luck with it so far, the hold overs work well for fast longer shots (300 yards.) The mount pictured has since been replaced and it came free with the scope. The optic now rests in a Larue one-piece quick detach, which I highly recommend. Was in the middle of a stage at a bigger match and despite using lock-tite and torqueing the screws on the Burris mount, my shots started stringing horizontally and then the scope just fell off. So needless to say I will forever be a Larue QD Mount user.

So that’s my 3-gun rifle, I am really happy with how it came out and how it functions. It’s nice and lite, moves fast and follow-up shots are breeze.

[Stickman]

Hey there guys, new to the forums and saw this post and thought its an awesome concept. Sorry, only have one picture of my build. So here it is:

http://s955.photobucket.com/user/joethe5th/media/2013-05-04_09-59-30_231_zpsea9f6e44.jpg.html

This rifle was built with 3-gun in mind, had a few carbines that would have worked fine but any excuse for a new rifle is a good excuse to me! When I build this rifle I was just getting into 3-gun and noticed I had a gap in my collection, our local matches love to put steel out around 3 and 400 yards and my carbines with red dots could do it but I wasn’t competitive. So I starting looking around at what other guys were shooting, what the pros were shooting and what I thought would work toward my style of shooting. I didn’t want to spend a fortune but still wanted a good looking, quality, light weight rifle that would last and wasn’t in a huge hurry to complete my build, so I just watch and waited for deals to come along. Sorry I don’t have more pictures but this one will have to do. So let’s start with the what’s and why’s, I’ll go from muzzle to butt stock.

Upper:
I went with the PWS FSC556 break cause I had shot a few before and was really impressed with their performance and were not as loud as some of the other breaks out there (and not going to lie, I thought it looked pretty cool.) I knew I wanted a 18” mid-weight stainless fluted barrel with a 1-8 or 1-7 twists that could shoot 55’s and up. Found a good deal on the Wilson 18” 1-8 recon barrel that was pretty much exactly what I was looking for and couldn’t be happier. It’s a good stiff and light barrel that shoots 55-72 gr bullets with ease. When looking at hand guards, I wanted something that was light, grippe and smaller in diameter. I also wanted a long one since there is such a variety of barricades, props and positions used in matches. The Troy 15” rail was perfect, reasonably priced good texture for grip and smaller around so I can really get ahold of it (I have short stubby fingers.) For the upper, a buddy was selling a spikes matched receiver set and BCG for super cheap and I had heard good things about the company, so I bought them from him. Went with the Gunfight charging handle with the large latch for positive grip that I could operate quickly and with ease.

Lower:
As stated above the receiver is spikes cause is was a screaming deal, and I have been really happy with the quality of their parts. I put the CMC 3.5# drop-in trigger unit in cause it the same trigger I have in my other AR rifles and I love them, they provide a clean crisp single stage pull and mine have lasted well. I went with the JP Low Mass buffer and their polished buffer spring for quiet and smooth functioning. I had a heavier buffer in it at first, and the switch really made a big difference in the mitigation of muzzle rise. For the stock I wanted something fixed but light and a little cheaper than the PRS, the Ace Skelton stock fit the bill and has been awesome. I went with the MIAD for the grip cause I really like them, the its nice for sweaty hands and fits my hand the best.

Optics/Mount:
Ignore the front sight was just trying something out, I normally run the Magpul flips up sights as a back-up in case my scope was to break or mount falls off/comes loose. I like them case they are spring loaded and super-fast to deploy. When looking at scopes I wanted something that had a 1x or something close to it and went higher than 4x without breaking the bank. After looking at tons of different options I settled with the Burris MTAC 1.5-6, and have had really good luck with it so far, the hold overs work well for fast longer shots (300 yards.) The mount pictured has since been replaced and it came free with the scope. The optic now rests in a Larue one-piece quick detach, which I highly recommend. Was in the middle of a stage at a bigger match and despite using lock-tite and torqueing the screws on the Burris mount, my shots started stringing horizontally and then the scope just fell off. So needless to say I will forever be a Larue QD Mount user.

So that’s my 3-gun rifle, I am really happy with how it came out and how it functions. It’s nice and lite, moves fast and follow-up shots are breeze.

The picture isn't showing up, but it sounds like a solid build.

[jacketjoed]

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae37/joethe5th/2013-05-04_09-59-30_231_zpsea9f6e44.jpg

[9oh7Texan]

Here is my current home defense build that I am working on:

Spike's Tactical lower with BCM Gunfighter Mod 3 Grip and Vltor EMod Stock
Spike's Tactical 16" upper with M4 profile Barrel 1:7 twist with chrome lining
Rainer Arms Raptor Charging Handle
Magpul BAD lever
Magpul RVG
Primary Arms Micro

http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/9oh7Texan/media/image_zps9904a9dd.jpg.html?sort=3&o=7

http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/9oh7Texan/media/image_zpsfce8d337.jpg.html?sort=3&o=6

http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/9oh7Texan/media/image_zps3f0699b5.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8

Only elements to add are a Battlecomp 2.0 comp, a light , and a Blue Force Vickers Sling. For the light I think that I am going to go with the Inforce WML HSP as the 200 lumens are more than enough for home defense and should not affect my night vision. Also I am going to go with the 45 degree thorn tail mount for the ergos on it. I chose lighter parts for this build to make this rifle easy for not only myself but my wife to handle.

[Haze]

1st AR for me. Living in New York we are limited now by the SAFE Act. .............. I picked up a Stag Arms Model 3. 16 inch barrel with 1-9. Flat top, going to add optics but not sure what yet. Leaning torward something with some magnification for my old eyes. Pistol grips are banned here so I went with a Thordsen FRS-15 Rifle Stock. A lot of limitations here in N.Y. but at least I am able to get out there to the range.

[Jerry R]

Congrats on the acquisition ! And, welcome to WEVO.

Post up some pics when you can. I would like to see the configuration.

[cjoh101]

I've been reading a lot of very helpful threads on this forum, and I've finally decided to post my build. This is my first build and I did it with a low budget in mind. Here's the details:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/02/adu7e7a7.jpg

Upper:
Receiver - RedX Arms
Barrel - Wilson Arms 18" heavy barrel, mid length, non threaded
BCG - RGuns
Hand guard - RGuns 16.5" free float tube
Forward Assist - DPMS
Dust cover - DPMS
Optics - Tasco 3-9x40 (upgrading to a Nikon P-223 soon)

Lower:
Receiver - Tactical Machining
Fire control group - Brownells
Stock - Magpul MOE
Grip - UTG
Trigger guard - RRA Winter guard

So far it shoots like a dream, when it finally warms up I'm going to do some testing with some different ammo to find a what groups the best.

My next build will be a 6.8 SPC for a little hog and deer killing.

[UWone77]

Sorry I didn't notice this post earlier, but it's approved now. What made you go with the Rguns handguard?


I've been reading a lot of very helpful threads on this forum, and I've finally decided to post my build. This is my first build and I did it with a low budget in mind. Here's the details:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/02/adu7e7a7.jpg

Upper:
Receiver - RedX Arms
Barrel - Wilson Arms 18" heavy barrel, mid length, non threaded
BCG - RGuns
Hand guard - RGuns 16.5" free float tube
Forward Assist - DPMS
Dust cover - DPMS
Optics - Tasco 3-9x40 (upgrading to a Nikon P-223 soon)

Lower:
Receiver - Tactical Machining
Fire control group - Brownells
Stock - Magpul MOE
Grip - UTG
Trigger guard - RRA Winter guard

So far it shoots like a dream, when it finally warms up I'm going to do some testing with some different ammo to find a what groups the best.

My next build will be a 6.8 SPC for a little hog and deer killing.

[cjoh101]

Sorry I didn't notice this post earlier, but it's approved now. What made you go with the Rguns handguard?

No problem! I was looking for a 15" tube that wouldn't break the bank, and the Rguns fit the bill at $65. I actually ordered the 14.5" but they sent me the 16.5" instead, and I didn't want to take the chance of sending it back at the time. I wanted a tube instead of a quad mainly because this will be a varmint gun and the only attachment I will be installing is a bipod. Plus, for precision shooting I like the feel of a tube over the quad.

[cjoh101]

I've updated my optics to a FireField 1-6x24, and so far I really like it. First time I've ever shot with a FFP scope before. Also, I was finally able to get some better pics of my rifle.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/cjoh101/Guns/IMG_2350_zps6484eb5e.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/cjoh101/media/Guns/IMG_2350_zps6484eb5e.jpg.html)

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/cjoh101/Guns/IMG_2349_zps1f009355.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/cjoh101/media/Guns/IMG_2349_zps1f009355.jpg.html)

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/cjoh101/Guns/IMG_2341_zpsd83c757f.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/cjoh101/media/Guns/IMG_2341_zpsd83c757f.jpg.html)

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/cjoh101/Guns/IMG_2343_zpsa1c95561.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/cjoh101/media/Guns/IMG_2343_zpsa1c95561.jpg.html)

This was at 100 yards trying to get her sighted in on a very windy day.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/cjoh101/Guns/51017381-86A7-496B-9357-05F87E0CB49A_zpssdu7bazh.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/cjoh101/media/Guns/51017381-86A7-496B-9357-05F87E0CB49A_zpssdu7bazh.jpg.html)

[KevinBLC]

What kind of ammo are you using?

Never heard of your scope... is it made in the USA? Cost?

[cjoh101]

It was American Eagle, I've got some Fiocchi match king, factory Hornady and some Hornady reloads I got from a friend I'm going try next. The scope is made in China and costs about $180 new, but I paid $125 from the same guy that reloads. He used it enough to sight it in and said his eyes are too old and needed more magnification. So he took it off, and replaced it with a Nikon. Here's a review I found on it
http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=186

[cjoh101]

Did a little more shooting today with some Hornady hand loads from my friend. Apparently my rifle liked it more than AE.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/cjoh101/Guns/0930F3AD-C607-4894-9D39-5434B2B5090D_zpsi0jfn5eg.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/cjoh101/media/Guns/0930F3AD-C607-4894-9D39-5434B2B5090D_zpsi0jfn5eg.jpg.html)
I will say that the one flyer I had was not the rifles fault, I was too cold to do another group!

[jjl103]

Nice thread going. I recently finished a year-long build, and decided to finally join and post the completed build. I started this after always wanting to build a unique AR, and feeling a bit emotional due to the political climate back in late 2012 and early 2013. I do apologize for the amateur pictures, I am just now getting used to a camera that isn't attached to a phone.

Completed Rifle:
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1376_zpsf39cb1d5.jpg

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1021_zpsfbad47ca.jpg

Lower and Upper:
I purchased a Northtech Defense lower because I liked the look of it. I have a Gen 2, which doesn't have the prominent flare in the front. I started out with a PSA LPK due to the rarity of the items back in early 2013, but have since replaced the bolt catch and mag release button with Seekins. Also replaced the trigger with a Geissele SSA, which was an impulse buy back during the crazy sales after thanksgiving. I don't regret it, as it is night and day better than the stock PSA trigger, which felt pretty gritty. I have a BCM Gunfighter Grip MOD 0, which I liked because it put my grip closer to the trigger, but I am currently using a Magpul MOE Grip, which came with the LPK. I also found some good deals on P-Mags, and bought a nice stock of them. I also acquired a BADASS safety selector, as I felt it just went with the overall theme of the rifle.

I decided on the Spikes Tactical Gen 2 Billet Upper, which I considered very alluring (also matches the lower pretty well). I originally wanted the NTD Billet upper, however they haven't been in stock, and I just couldn't wait any longer on finishing the build. As you can see, I went with a Rainier Arms NiB BCG. I thought this was unique to my clique of friends and it was at a decent price. I had to grind a bit of the Seekins bolt catch to make it fit properly, but that wasn't too much of an issue.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1026_zpscd9831a5.jpg
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1371_zpsde8561f9.jpg?t=1390875151
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1362_zpsf4af21e9.jpg

Stock/Buffer Tube Assy:
I chose to go with a Magpul STR, as I really like the simplicity of the Magpul stocks, but wanted a nice place to store some spare batteries/parts/tools as well. My only regret on this rifle was the buffer tube assembly. I purchased this from the same gunshop I bought the lower from. It is an ATI kit, and to me it just sounds completely different than any other buffer assembly I've used. Sounds almost like a zipper when firing or racking the bolt, which makes me believe the finish on the inside isn't smooth. I also have no documentation on the buffer weight, and its finish is very poorly done. I'll give it a few hundred rounds to see if anything changes, but I plan on replacing it.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1027_zpsf0a0062f.jpg

Handguard:
I was originally going to utilize an FSB and use a Centurion Arms C4 Midlength Cutout, but I just kept coming back to the CMR, and I think I'm better off for it. This is a 12" CMR on a 14.5" BCM lightweight barrel. I used a BCM gasblock as well. Installation was a breeze thanks to the guide here on this site. Mounted to the handguard is a Magpul AFG2 and an Inforce WML HSP. I chose the AFG2 because I am not a fan of the use of the regular foregrip, but wanted something extra to hang on to and help me control the rifle when shooting offhand. The light was something I really had to research. I originally wanted a Surefire Scout, but the Inforce ultimately won me over with it's light weight, low cost, and output of 200 lumens. I also found the button to be pretty convenient to use as well, and really like the momentary-on only function. My muzzle device is a Surefire MB556k. I went with this for a multitude of reasons. I wanted something that would help in keeping me on target when shooting rapidly (I know this doesn't replace training), and since I had to purchase something to bring the rifle to 16" anyway, this seemed like a good choice. I researched this more than any other piece, and learned a lot in the process. It also helps that I am planning on getting a suppressor in the near future, and really found a liking to Surefire's attachment system.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1363_zps5a6c8b3d.jpg
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1364_zpsefe7b583.jpg

Optics/Sights/CH:
I was fortunate enough to catch Weapon Outfitters while they had them in stock, so I went with the MBUS Pro's. I really like them so far, and their slim profile is pretty nice for use with optics. I can manipulate elevation and windage without having to use a tool, although the controls are pretty hard to move at the moment. My current optic is a Vortex Sparc. I chose this optic because it is a decent optic for the price point, and will suffice while I decide on a better one (I am currently torn between a PRO and a T-1, however the EOTech and Trijicon has crept into my thought process as well). I also went with a Rainier Arms Raptor charging handle because of its solid design and construction, along with its ability to easily be used with both hands.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1372_zps67440b4f.jpg
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b637/jjl103/DSCN1373_zps44eae6dd.jpg

I think that's all, however I have a strange feeling I am forgetting something. I am still looking to purchase a sling, and I also plan on getting the HSP Thorntail mount for the light, as it will put the button in a more ideal place for manipulation.

[UWone77]

Solid choices on the build. I have an upper almost exactly like the one you built, except on a Mega Billet Upper. Glad the CMR guide was useful to you.

[mustangfreek]

For my latest build..I wanted a somewhat LW, KISS build using good quality parts, and for it to be a reliable piece, will rock the iron sights for now, til li decide on a 1x4 for one of my other builds and move a PRO over to this one.have had a majority of the parts since last summer, but recently just finished it.

Mega arms lower with WOA lower parts, w/ ALG trigger ,BAD ambi safety, 7075 tube with Bravo stock
Rainier arms upper, BCG, and RAC brake
Fortis 14" rail and hammer charging handle
BCM LW 16" middy
daniel defense fixed sights
Magpul k2 and AFG


http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z176/mustang91_2007/gun/photo5_zps41671127.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/mustang91_2007/media/gun/photo5_zps41671127.jpg.html)

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z176/mustang91_2007/gun/photo25_zpsf28fbc14.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/mustang91_2007/media/gun/photo25_zpsf28fbc14.jpg.html)

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z176/mustang91_2007/gun/photo33_zpsc83c8ed6.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/mustang91_2007/media/gun/photo33_zpsc83c8ed6.jpg.html)

[WARRIOR84]

I basically built a patrol rifle using what I thought was the best I could afford. I started with a stripped YHM lower
geissele SD-C
BCM Mod0 grip
Magpul CTR Stock
16" LMT Carbine upper with shaved front sight post
Fortis 14" rail
Battlecomp 1.0
Troy flip ups
Magpul XPS hand stop kit
Inforce WML-HSP in thorntail mount
And finally an Aimpoint Comp M4S
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/zagygy7u.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/ajypesy5.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/6ubypava.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/pa2e9yvy.jpg

[UWone77]

Nice Stick! So are you limited on certain items for a patrol rifle? Or can you build anything you want?

[Pyzik]

Currently my only AR.
BCM 14.5 Mid with FSC556
BCM BCG (Nickel Boron by ATEi)
MBUS Rear
Mega lower with Colt FCG
Currently wearing UBR stock and MOE handguards
Primary Arms Mico on PA mount (This will go on my AK when I can decide on a hard use optic for this rifle)

The purpose of this rifle was intended to be a "do-all" defense rifle along with training/range toy.
Realistic expectations are sub 50 yard engagements (in the home and immediate property), though my EDC M&P9 is still my go-to for bumps in the night.

Just ordered a Samson 9ex smooth rail, should be here Friday (got a pretty darn good deal).
And considering moving to a CTR stock or similar as I think the UBR may be over-kill for this rifle's roll. (I'll save it for the RECCE I wanna build)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/13828652313_9ddb310167_h.jpg

[GOST]

Nice Pyzik.

[Battle Cock]

Love those selector switch markings. Is that stippling or grip tape on the handguard?

[Pyzik]

Nice Pyzik.
Thanks!


Love those selector switch markings. Is that stippling or grip tape on the handguard?
Stippling done by Diversified Firearms Concepts.

I can't seem to get the clean lines. I've done two M&Ps myself and just can't get the same line quality.

[GOST]

To get good lines in stippling one of my buddies takes a screw and cuts the head square, then uses a file to checker the head. He replaces the tip of his soldering iron with this.

[Pyzik]

To get good lines in stippling one of my buddies takes a screw and cuts the head square, then uses a file to checker the head. He replaces the tip of his soldering iron with this.

I would have never thought of this (obviously)!
I wonder if I can chop up something similar and try to clean up the lines on the M&Ps...
Thanks for the idea.

[GOST]

I was told that this is about the same technique used by Glockworx for their stipling.

[BC98]

I love when this thread pops back up because it reminds me to go back and look at how I originally had my gun setup and how much it's changed in the last 4 years. Here's my 2 year (and possibly last update) on my 12.5" training upper. Current state:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/brcook03/Firearms/d37b645d-401b-4cf7-8e9a-7ac38736589b_zps8db69d9a.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/brcook03/media/Firearms/d37b645d-401b-4cf7-8e9a-7ac38736589b_zps8db69d9a.jpg.html)

Upper & Barrel: 12.5” Centurion barrel in BCM upper
I continue to run the Centurion barrel in 12.5” length and it has been a fantastic barrel. It has been through 4 carbine classes, a few thousand rounds and I really don't clean it much. It continues to run and provide great accuracy. A few weeks ago, I benched it at 100yds with a 1-7x scope and it was sub-MOA with 3 different match loads.

Muzzle Device: Surefire MB556K brake
I have stuck with the Surefire brake. I tried to swap back to an A2 but the recoil impulse of this setup with the Surefire has spoiled me.

Bolt Carrier Group/Charge handle: BCM mil-spec BCG and Gunfighter Charge Handle (Mod 4)
Both of these just work for me.

Handguards: Noveske NSR 11"
I had originally installed a Troy 11" Alpha a couple of years ago as I liked the cheaper buy in cost compared to the NSR. I found a sale on the NSR around one of the holidays and picked one. Love it. The rail had a smaller diameter and felt like a huge weight reduction compared to the Troy. I much prefer the KeyMod system to what was used for the Alpha. I have added the Noveske rail covers and the seem to work pretty well. I'm not 100% sold on the handstop part of those kits as they don't lock into the handguard well. I may swap over to a KAC keymod hand stop. One other item I have added to the handguards is a KAC thumbstop on the top rail. It looked a little goofy to me at first but have since found that I greatly prefer it as an index point for my thumb on the top of the rail in relation to my weapon light. Pic below:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/brcook03/Firearms/3b4dfdb6-4b8e-4fdf-8f8d-ce57248bae98_zps1cd18dc2.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/brcook03/media/Firearms/3b4dfdb6-4b8e-4fdf-8f8d-ce57248bae98_zps1cd18dc2.jpg.html)

Optic: Aimpoint H-1 on LaRue LT660 mount
I love the combination of durability and lightweight the H-1 provides. I run a 2 MOA dot size and love it. Up close shots are easy and I've been able to push back to 350yds on steel silhouette targets pretty well. I typically prefer ADM mounts but got a good deal on a used LaRue mount so I decided to go with that version.

BUIS: DD fixed front + Troy folding rear ( => KAC 0-300m Micro)
BUIS is an area where I've circled back a little. I've swapped to a DD fixed front sight to run behind an x300 on the front of the rail. The X300 is already in my sight picture a little so I figured that having a front sight there isn't an issue either. A few range trips with this setup has confirmed this assumption. The DD front also took up less rail space than the Troy folder and works out well for the natural position of where my thumb wants to ride. I had kept the Troy rear folder but just found a deal on a used KAC 0-300m micro rear and will be swapping over to get a little lower profile on the back of the upper.

Lower & Parts:
I still have this SBR on my Spike’s punisher lower but am looking to register a second SBR lower and may swap this upper and some of the parts over to that lower. I swapped the ACT trigger out for a Geiselle SSA and it's been great. I was never able to get the ACT to feel "good" to me so I sold it to help fund the SSA. I still run a BCM grip and have switched all but one of my other rifles over to them. I have also kept the BAD safety selector.

Buttstock: B5 SOPMOD Bravo
I picked up the B5 Bravo on a whim and found it extremely comfortable. The cheek weld is great and I don't store extra stuff on the gun, so the weight is good also. I have continued to run the A5 system but have been experimenting with different springs and buffers. I am currently running the A5H4 buffer with a Sprinco Green spring but have just recently started to have failures to lock back on an empty mag with .223 pressure ammo. I may swap the stock A5 spring back in to see if this cures the problem.

Sling: VCAS
I have stuck with the VCAS as it just plain works for me and I'm used to the adjustment.

Light: Surefire X300U with Unity Tactical EXO
I got a good deal on the X300U to run at 12:00 on my rail (ahead of the front sight). I didn't like the setup well until I coupled it with the UT EXO and the KAC thumb stop. This setup is very intuitive for me and funnels my thumb right to the switch on the light. Plus, it's nice having the bright output of the X300.

Future changes/upgrades:
-NONE! (Unless BCM comes out with an 11" KMR....)

I have finally reached a point where I'm happy with this gun and how it runs. I don't envision wanting or needing to change anything on it in the near future. It meets all of the criteria that I set aside at the beginning of the project and is just plain fun to shoot. I will edit the post with a couple of pics later today.

[GOST]

Killer build BC98.

[jbjh]

Oh, to be able to run a SBR...


Sent from 80ms in the future
Much peace
Jimmy

[gatordev]

Words...

You have a very similar build to my "all-in, light, do everything" build. I, too, have a Centurion Arms 12.5" with a BCM upper and a M556K. I hope to finally test it out tomorrow and see that it's the solution to all the worlds problems. It sure is nice and light!

[gatordev]

So here it is... I don't normally do these kind of threads, but figured what the hell. The ultimate goal was to build a lightweight, 200m and in all-around-carbine that I could run suppressed and/or with a light for classes, competition, or just in general. The problem I discovered today is that it's just such a sweet shooter that it makes it hard to grab another AR out of the safe.

Here's the obligatory parts list:

-BCM Upper (blem)
-Centurion Arms 12.5" barrel
-Centurion Arms BCG
-SF M556K brake
-Spikes lower with a G&R/LMT FCG
-Aimpoint T1
-KAC URX 3.1 10.75" rail w/ accessories

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/gatordev/12%20point%205/photo3_zps2b51a21b.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/gatordev/12%20point%205/125opticFocus_zps7a2eb19a.jpg

Weight is 6 lbs 11 oz without the suppressor, 7 lbs 12 oz suppressed (unloaded and without the light, which is easy to remove).

After getting it zeroed, I ran some rounds through it moving around 4 different targets. It easily points where you need it to go, and stops where you need it. It's also very smooth (running a ST-T2 buffer) unsuppressed and easy to keep on target. Suppressed, there were no buffer/gas issues, but a little more felt impulse and lots more gas. Still, even suppressed, it was very maneuverable.

Issues: not completely sold on the KAC hanstop. Also, the rail gets pretty hot running a few mags through it quickly running drills. KAC handguards help, but since I have my hand so far forward, not much of my hand is touching the handguards. A glove would eliminate any discomfort.

Overall, I'm very happy. This thing makes it difficult to pick what's coming out of the safe for a trip to the range.

[GOST]

Gatordev what type of groups you getting out of your Centurion barrel?

[gatordev]

Gatordev what type of groups you getting out of your Centurion barrel?

Tiiieeete. Seriously though, I was mostly just zeroing and then function testing today, all with a RDS, so I wasn't shooting for groups. That said, if I didn't throw a round, I'd say within an inch. If you include the rounds I most likely threw, then probably 1.5". This is all at 50 yards shooting PPU .223 ammo (my current lot I'm shooting). Note: this is a lightweight barrel, so heat will probably affect it more than a non-lightweight barrel.

Personally, I think the barrel performed just fine for the conditions/optic. I'm sure it's more capable than I am with what I was doing today. Given the performance of my CA MK12, I have no doubt Monty's barrels are good to go, if there is any concern.

[BC98]

gatordev,

Awesome build. I keep wishing that MN would come to its senses and allow suppressors. The URX 3.1 rail was the other rail I had considered with my build when I got the Noveske. It looks fantastic. I have a URX 3.1 on a 16" build and I used some skateboard tap on the side rails for grip instead of the panels. It might be something you could try.

[gatordev]

gatordev,

Awesome build. I keep wishing that MN would come to its senses and allow suppressors. The URX 3.1 rail was the other rail I had considered with my build when I got the Noveske. It looks fantastic. I have a URX 3.1 on a 16" build and I used some skateboard tap on the side rails for grip instead of the panels. It might be something you could try.

I agonized over getting the URX 2, the URX 3.1, or the CA quad rail. I'm glad I went for the extra 3/4" longer KAC rails. I actually found the rail covers to be fine for heat, but they're just too far back based on how far forward I grip the rail so my hand only touches them a little bit (the heel of my hand). I may still move the handstop back on hole, though. Still trying to figure out what's the most comfortable. I'm not totally sold on the KAC handstop on comfort, but there's not a lot of other options without adding rails, which defeats the point. All that said, I've thought about the skateboard tape and may do that on the bottom anyway. Sounds like a simple way to texture the rail.

Honestly, if I just put a PiG glove on, the problem is solved all around.

[GOST]

Hey Gatordev don't know if you like the Magpul AFG or XTM, but I have seen some who grab the URX about the same place you do run one off their bottom rail section. Also do you know if the Larue OBR handstop will fit the URX 3.1? They are a little more comfortable than the KAC.

http://www.laruetactical.com/handstop-obr-predatar-insert-2-piece-set

[gatordev]

Hey Gatordev don't know if you like the Magpul AFG or XTM, but I have seen some who grab the URX about the same place you do run one off their bottom rail section. Also do you know if the Larue OBR handstop will fit the URX 3.1? They are a little more comfortable than the KAC.

http://www.laruetactical.com/handstop-obr-predatar-insert-2-piece-set

Huh. I didn't realize those existed. I have several of the Larue railed handstops on a couple of guns and like them, but didn't realize the Predatever had it's own mount. I'm not sure if it would work. Maybe someone else has tried it.

I've thought about the AFG, but in the past, I found it more comfortable when my arm was farther out. I'm not opposed to trying it again, but I'm still not sure if there's a problem to fix by using it on this particular rail quite yet.

I've run the XTM on my 5.45 gun (with a Fortis ReV) for about 1000 rounds and I think I'm about ready to remove it and put the Larue one on there. I just don't find it to be that comfy or as quite as good a stop for me.

[GOST]

Gatordev I've had a KAC handstop on a Geissele MK4. It fit very well but was uncomfortable, wasn't a big fan of it. I personally like the ones from Larue the best but don't know if the one for the OBR will fit my MK4.

[gatordev]

Gatordev I've had a KAC handstop on a Geissele MK4. It fit very well but was uncomfortable, wasn't a big fan of it.

For me, this describes a lot (but certainly not all) KAC accessories. I'm going to run it a bit more to see what I think. I need to make sure the gun continues to not have any issues, but I may try and run it in a competition next month. That may be the true test for me.

[gatordev]

For me, this describes a lot (but certainly not all) KAC accessories. I'm going to run it a bit more to see what I think. I need to make sure the gun continues to not have any issues, but I may try and run it in a competition next month. That may be the true test for me.

A little update... I ended up putting a small KAC panel on the front bottom rail of the URX 3.1 and kept the KAC handstop in place. I ran the gun in a comp today and I didn't even notice the hand stop. The rifle is f-ing smooth and just ran like a Swiss watch today. If the idiot behind the trigger was a little faster in target acquisition (and managed to wear a glove when trying to rack a Glock in the summer/sweaty heat), it would have been spectacular. Good fun.

[partsguy]

Though I have been a hunter for most of my life, I wouldn't consider myself a gun guy. Until recently I didn't appreciate shooting for shooting sake. I needed a new hobby so I decided to build an AR. My first was built from parts procured in haste in early '12. I enjoyed the process a lot. For my second, I decided I wanted a quality do it all rifle with a nod to marksmanship . So I started to do some research which led me here. The WEVO forum has been a great resource for this newcomer. Thank You.

Mega Arms Ambi Billet receiver set
BCM 16" ss410 barrel
BCM charge handle
BCM mod-1 grip
SSA-E trigger
Ranier precision match BCG
Magpul UBR stock
NSR 15" rail
VG6 Epsilon muzzle brake
BAD-ass safety (Thank You WEVO giveaway !!! )
Seekins mag release and bolt catch
Norgon Ambi-catch
BAD takedown pins

Tried to get artsy with my cell phone
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/17/ymevyna9.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/17/u7unu4e2.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/17/nagega7e.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/17/ramu3ema.jpg

[MoxyDave]

Great choices all around. Should be a fine shooter [:)]

[KevinBLC]

Partsguy, that looks like a sweet shooter. I bet it balances very well with that UBR. One of these days... I'll pony up for a UBR! I've also heard nothing but good stuff about BCM Stainless barrels. Hope to see a range report down the road. Nice gun!

[n4p226r]

since I'm new here i figured i'd share.

this is my first AR, so i don't have a lot to say about the reasons for building it this way other than doing a lot of research and hopefully making some good choices based on recommendations.

I started with the lower that i overpaid for greatly in january of 2013. a gen 2 noveske FFL chainsaw. i figured i'd get the lower and store it away in case the state i lived in wanted to do anything crazy.

i built the lower first. i sourced a geissele SSA trigger, and bad-cass-sa and a tango down grip. i picked the SSA trigger based on my limited experience with a few prior ARs. the two stage triggers i shot felt better to me. i finished off the rest of the lower parts build with colt parts from SA. after seeing some cheaper parts kits I'm glad i did. the rear receiver extension is a viltor buffer tube, spring, and imod, with a BCM H buffer and noveske endplate. i prefer the look of the imod over just about any other stock and since i had to pin the stock anyway, it seemed that it was much easier on this than something like the magpul ACS. magazines are a variety of 15 rd mags pinned by midwest PX and some 10 round mags. The "johnny" mag was certainly interesting trying to get to NJ.

i chose most of that stuff above without ever touching the stuff on a previous gun. but the only thing i think i didn't like was the grip. i changed to a BCM mod 1 as i've had a few surgeries on my right hand and the vertical grip angle feels more comfortable. I'm not sure why the vertical style grip wasn't there from the beginning, but it'll be a standard part on all my builds i believe.


the upper i had two requirements (besides being a noveske) and that is it had to be a 14.5" with a pinned battle comp or other high quality comp. luckily one of their dealers stocks uppers with pinned BC1.5. The other was i wanted a 13.5" NSR. quad rails feel bulky and uncomfortable to me and the NSR just feels right. the keymod, although new, seems to give the benefit of the picatinny rail (solid open source attachment points without the bulk) so the upper came on a noveske marked MUR upper with 14.5" noveske CHF barrel and battle comp 1.5. I needed to pin the upper either way so i didn't see any benefit of going with a 16" over a 14.5" I added noveske/troy flip up sights and a micro t1 in ADM mount. the ADM mount i swapped to a recent bobro lower 1/3 mount and i seem to like that more.

a inforce wml on a HSP/IWC thorntail keymod mount was added and some rail panels and a novekse QD sling attachment. so far i like it, but once i get a few classes and more time i can figure out if i did well or if i totally screwed up.

i wanted to build a gun that gave me options to learn, looked good, and modularity if i wanted to move things later. the endplate and stock give me a few sling attachment points to figure out. the keymod rail took away the bulk i didn't like but gave me better attachment points than something like a vtac rail. and it's noveske, so that part is self explanatory.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/wsaraceni/0D3C30C6-0F6B-4143-8F96-60E05FB9D7EE_zpsuogplhnp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/wsaraceni/610BCF51-7791-49CA-B820-02C91B156312_zpscm4bjoau.jpg

i have since starting building what will essentially be a novekse 18" SPR barrel with 15" NSR on noveske gen 1 receivers which will be cerakoted a tungsten color (maybe a shade darker). also since taking this picture, I've moved the rail panels back one slot as well as the light. it didn't take long to realize that i shot better with my hand not as far out. i could probably go with an 11" rail next time but i like the look of the 13.5" and its only an ounce or two

[rob_s]

Even if you guys are new, it would be nice to hear what drove your choices. If for no other reason than for your own use later on when you come to your sensed [:)]

Seriously though, there is a picture thread. This is supposed to be the "explain" thread wherein you post the parts you chose and WHY.

[rob_s]

Which reminds me...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/photo_zps537ee020.jpg


I have had two Colt 6933s since they were first released, one from each of the first two batches (long story how I wound up with two). One has gone largely un-changed since my "Tale of Two Carbines" post eons ago other than to get a 30mm Aimpoint mounted to it. The other had mostly remained stock with the exception of the plastic being changed out for all Magpul MOE and it wore a T1/H1/R1 at various times. The idea there was to have a "plain" AR for various teaching and learning reasons. Over time, this lower became the host for a variety of uppers and stocks. At one point it was the host for my ultra-lightweight experiment, a 14.5" "woman gun", a 6.8 SBR upper, and anything else that was short and came through my hands. In my more recent drive to simplify, I realized that all of those things weren't really doing much different from each other, as well as the fact that there was some new tech out there, as well as the fact that there was a pretty much stock 6933 upper sitting unused in the safe. So I sold off a bunch of uppers and bought some new widgets.

First off is the stock. I had gone through the MOE, a Cavarms CAR, and a few others. Then I was the LWRCi compact stock and it piqued my interest, so I bit. it had most of what I was looking for (QD sockets, rubber pad, decent cheek weld, low-profile) without having to add/glue/bolt on other crap after the fact.

Next would be the slign you see attached to the stock. It's the latest version of whatever Magpul calls their sling these days. Over the years I have used 1-point, 1-to-2-point, and 2-point slings and I have attached them at the buttsotck (both sides), castle nut, barrel nut, and near the muzzle, with various mixtures. I decided that I'd like to have a sling that could do all of that so that I could change things up on the fly, and this one seemed to fit the bill. I've been using the Sheriff of Baghdad 2-point sling which is very thin and narrow, and I like it a lot, so the added thikcness and width of the Magpul is something I'm already not so sure about.

The forend is the BCM KMR, I guess in a 10" length which best matched the 11.5" barrel of the 6933. My primary reason for choosing this was fiddle-fart, I'll be honest. Before completely dismissing keymod I felt like I needed to give it a try, and this one seemed like the way to go due mostly to the weight. I've already dinged it up just installing it so I'm starting out a little disappointed. Does wear matter? maybe not, but that doesn't mean I want my tire to lose 3 treads just from installing it. To go with that Are the Noveske covers (I am surprised at how chintzy they feel and how much of a PITA they are to take on and off) then the BCM Keymod VFG (wider at the top than I'd have expected but I can't find a functional reason to bitch yet).

I have spent a LOT of time with iron sights over the last few years. Because of that I have come to appreciate the small aperture. There are not many flip-up rear sights that deploy to the small OR large with the shooter making the choice. The BCM sights made by Diamondhead are the only ones I'm aware of, so that's what I used.

The light is the X300. It's my standard. My primary driving factor in choosing a light is that it can't be a $500 light that does nothing other than sit on the gun. So the X300 is pretty much my standard. it can go on the rifle, it can go on the pistol, it can work in my hand. and because it comes on/off easily I only have to have it when I need it.

There's a BAD-ASS 45* selector in there. I don't actually recall installing it, but I like it. Can easily do without it, strong or weak hand, but it's not hurting anything in there so it stays.

Eventually the FH will be installed (when I find it in the parts bin) and will be a Surefire, because I've shot the one I have side-by-side of a bunch of them at night and it was invisible.

I want to get out ans zero the irons soon, and I'm still working out what I want to do about the optic. If I see a good deal on a PRO then that will go on the gun, or if I get my POS Eotech XPS fixed, that will, or if I break down and buy the Leupold 1-6x for my other gun then the TA33 will go on this one. But I've been shooting irons long enough now to know that once I get these zeroed I can take on just about all comers without an optic.

[n4p226r]

Even if you guys are new, it would be nice to hear what drove your choices. If for no other reason than for your own use later on when you come to your sensed [:)]

Seriously though, there is a picture thread. This is supposed to be the "explain" thread wherein you post the parts you chose and WHY.


i added a little more reasoning to my post. but some of the stuff was definitely driven by looks, saying "why not", and staring a stickman's flickr

[Gator]

What endplate is that, Rob?

[Cobalt]

Which reminds me...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/photo_zps537ee020.jpg


I have had two Colt 6933s since they were first released, one from each of the first two batches (long story how I wound up with two). One has gone largely un-changed since my "Tale of Two Carbines" post eons ago other than to get a 30mm Aimpoint mounted to it. The other had mostly remained stock with the exception of the plastic being changed out for all Magpul MOE and it wore a T1/H1/R1 at various times. The idea there was to have a "plain" AR for various teaching and learning reasons. Over time, this lower became the host for a variety of uppers and stocks. At one point it was the host for my ultra-lightweight experiment, a 14.5" "woman gun", a 6.8 SBR upper, and anything else that was short and came through my hands. In my more recent drive to simplify, I realized that all of those things weren't really doing much different from each other, as well as the fact that there was some new tech out there, as well as the fact that there was a pretty much stock 6933 upper sitting unused in the safe. So I sold off a bunch of uppers and bought some new widgets.

First off is the stock. I had gone through the MOE, a Cavarms CAR, and a few others. Then I was the LWRCi compact stock and it piqued my interest, so I bit. it had most of what I was looking for (QD sockets, rubber pad, decent cheek weld, low-profile) without having to add/glue/bolt on other crap after the fact.

Next would be the slign you see attached to the stock. It's the latest version of whatever Magpul calls their sling these days. Over the years I have used 1-point, 1-to-2-point, and 2-point slings and I have attached them at the buttsotck (both sides), castle nut, barrel nut, and near the muzzle, with various mixtures. I decided that I'd like to have a sling that could do all of that so that I could change things up on the fly, and this one seemed to fit the bill. I've been using the Sheriff of Baghdad 2-point sling which is very thin and narrow, and I like it a lot, so the added thikcness and width of the Magpul is something I'm already not so sure about.

The forend is the BCM KMR, I guess in a 10" length which best matched the 11.5" barrel of the 6933. My primary reason for choosing this was fiddle-fart, I'll be honest. Before completely dismissing keymod I felt like I needed to give it a try, and this one seemed like the way to go due mostly to the weight. I've already dinged it up just installing it so I'm starting out a little disappointed. Does wear matter? maybe not, but that doesn't mean I want my tire to lose 3 treads just from installing it. To go with that Are the Noveske covers (I am surprised at how chintzy they feel and how much of a PITA they are to take on and off) then the BCM Keymod VFG (wider at the top than I'd have expected but I can't find a functional reason to bitch yet).

I have spent a LOT of time with iron sights over the last few years. Because of that I have come to appreciate the small aperture. There are not many flip-up rear sights that deploy to the small OR large with the shooter making the choice. The BCM sights made by Diamondhead are the only ones I'm aware of, so that's what I used.

The light is the X300. It's my standard. My primary driving factor in choosing a light is that it can't be a $500 light that does nothing other than sit on the gun. So the X300 is pretty much my standard. it can go on the rifle, it can go on the pistol, it can work in my hand. and because it comes on/off easily I only have to have it when I need it.

There's a BAD-ASS 45* selector in there. I don't actually recall installing it, but I like it. Can easily do without it, strong or weak hand, but it's not hurting anything in there so it stays.

Eventually the FH will be installed (when I find it in the parts bin) and will be a Surefire, because I've shot the one I have side-by-side of a bunch of them at night and it was invisible.

I want to get out ans zero the irons soon, and I'm still working out what I want to do about the optic. If I see a good deal on a PRO then that will go on the gun, or if I get my POS Eotech XPS fixed, that will, or if I break down and buy the Leupold 1-6x for my other gun then the TA33 will go on this one. But I've been shooting irons long enough now to know that once I get these zeroed I can take on just about all comers without an optic.

Now that is a sexy rifle. Nice.

[Uffdaphil]

"rob_s,
I have spent a LOT of time with iron sights over the last few years. Because of that I have come to appreciate the small aperture. There are not many flip-up rear sights that deploy to the small OR large with the shooter making the choice. The BCM sights made by Diamondhead are the only ones I'm aware of, so that's what I used."

Check out LWRC. I like 'em because they fold large or small and all the edges are smooth.


https://www.lwrci.com/p-237-lwrci-skirmish-sight-buis-rear.aspx

[IRacknBack]

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/bamaloke/9cc1b15f-9e61-493e-a1eb-06a9b4e279e4_zpsef901d0d.jpg

Ruc Complete Lower as purchased from Rainier arms - great value with high quality parts. Biggest sell was the 45 deg ambi safety and FDE furniture option. I liked the minimalist stock it came with but not as much as the UBR on it now. It also matched the upper I already had.

UBR - Just love the stock. Aside from the look, the super quick adjustment to preset positions is not something i'll ever NEED but still like to have it. Plus it saves me from having to buy a sling plate. weight is a worthy trade off.

Geissele - enough said.

Vortex PST 1-4x in Bobro precision mount. Wanted a quality but budget friendly 1-4x and this fit the bill. Can't skimp on the mount though it cost 1/2 as much as the scope itself......

Rainier Arms Upper with 16inch barrel. - I actually got the upper from UWOne77 after he ran it through a torture test of 5500rds without cleaning/lubing. I've got about 3-4k through it myself with minimal maintenance since and it still outshoots me.

I replaced the rail with a Centurion C4 12inch because it was a bit longer than the RA brand one on it and a better look. I chose this because aside from those horribly ugly/played out Keymods, there aren't many options... [crazy]

MBUS - because the color matched and i'm too cheap to buy the swing out 45deg BUIS from Diamondhead I want.

Surefire M951 in FDE - Not gonna lie, I like my insight and TLR lights better, but this one looks awesome and has a perm on feature unlike the Insight. Also paid only $60 for it.

MS3 sling - LOVE the 1pt to 2pt feature and the quick adjustment pull of it. Only other sling I use is a Troy single point that I've converted into a 3pt on my Tavor.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/bamaloke/876F5AF8-81E9-466A-9BAC-B5A41D7BE1E7_zpsnv3dpna5.jpg

[lamarbrog]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i190/Lamarbrog/DSCN2680.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Lamarbrog/media/DSCN2680.jpg.html)

"Colt 733 Clone"
Purpose: Amusement/Light Weight Rifle
While it might sound silly to some, I got the inspiration for this from watching a clip from the movie "Heat" on YouTube. Of course, it's Hollywood, but I really admired the seeming light weight and maneuverability, so I set out to reproduce it.

The Lower Half:
Noveske Gen1 "Chainsaw" Receiver
Geissele SSA Fire Control Group
Colt "N1" CAR15 Stock
Spike's ST-2 Buffer
Small parts and stock hardware were parts I had on hand- most likely High Standard, but I really don't remember anymore.

The Upper Half:
Colt Bolt Carrier Group
C7-type Receiver- unsure of manufacturer, I traded for it.
Bravo Company 11.5" "pencil" Barrel
SWR Specwar 762 Sound Suppressor
Charging Handle, Hand Guards, and other small parts I already had on hand- most likely High Standard.



This rifle is my favorite. I love how light it is. It has less than 1000 rounds on it, seeing as it's a new build, but the reliability has been no less than perfect. The SWR Specwar 762 adds more weight than I'd like, so I plan on replacing it with maybe an AAC Ranger III or a GemTech Trek-T. I haven't really shot it for accuracy, so I can't make any concrete claims. It hits a paper plate at 100 yards consistently with just casual plinking.

[mustangfreek]

^^ I like that...I was just talking with a friend about a similiar build...

[MoxyDave]

Very nice. Love the simplicity of the A1 style upper. Straight up iron sights ... nice!

[lamarbrog]

I like simplicity. Of course, a Colt 733 clone takes it to an extreme which is (fortunately? unfortunately?) not really practical anymore. Even so, when I do go modern I still keep things pretty streamlined. This is a "general purpose" set up. I'd like to use it for home defense, but won't really even consider it seriously until I can get a 5.56mm suppressor for it. 10.5" muzzle blast in a hallway sounds like a good way to discover what bleeding from the ears feels like. Rather avoid that.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i190/Lamarbrog/DSCN1272.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Lamarbrog/media/DSCN1272.jpg.html)

Noveske SBR Receiver
Geissele SSA Fire Control
B5 "SOPMOD" Stock
Palmetto State Armory Upper w/ FN Barrel
Colt Bolt Carrier Group
PRI Gas Buster Charging Handle
Knight's Armament RAS & VFG
Viking Tactics Flashlight Mount
SureFire G2X Tactical Light
LMT Rear Sight

It would have an AimPoint PRO on it, but I am an idiot and didn't keep a spare battery on hand. The battery is dead.

[Shift.Six]

Mines pretty simialr to Iamarborg. (sorta)

I ended up picking up a DD-MK18 upper on a whim, and wasnt really sure what I was going to build around it. Bought a Noveske Gen-II lower and a TA33G-H to go with it, and then stumbled upon the CQBR/ MK18 Clone threads on ARFCOM and it started playing a role on how I wanted to finish the rifle.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/lltek2002/965B033A-D57A-4BCF-999F-7F62471CB14A_zpsjhjjpvfe.jpg (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/lltek2002/media/965B033A-D57A-4BCF-999F-7F62471CB14A_zpsjhjjpvfe.jpg.html)
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/lltek2002/8168264E-14CE-4645-8450-A63D0EE23F0E_zpswerd6at0.jpg (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/lltek2002/media/8168264E-14CE-4645-8450-A63D0EE23F0E_zpswerd6at0.jpg.html)

When this build started, I knew I had a longish range rifle already and I wanted something I could bring to an indoor range or out to 300 or so meters. (This was basically my only starting criteria, but I have to say I am thrilled with how its turned out so far)

Upper is a factory Daniel Defense MK18
BUIS are KAC
Optic is a Trijicon TA33G-H Acog
Lower: Noveske Gen-II
Trigger: Geissele SD3G
B5 Systems Sopmod Stock
Ergo Grip, and Magpul AFG
and a Surefire 300B light.

and a Surefire SOCOM 556RC is still in NFA jail :-(

This has turned out to be my favorite rifle hands down. Its light enough, fast enough, and accurate enough to ring 8" Steel plates at 400m with MK262. I love the ACOG, it gives me just enough magnification, with out slowing me down too much.

[UWone77]

Very nice!

I wish DD would stop etching on their upper receivers the caliber and model though.

[rob_s]

It does seem that the idea that magnification on an SBR is going away. There are quire a few sacred cows re: SBRs that have been slain in recent times. They all seem to come back to two main ideas, that SBRs are unreliable and inaccurate, that have gone completely out the window.

[Shift.Six]

Very nice!

I wish DD would stop etching on their upper receivers the caliber and model though.

Agreed. I have a stripped Noveske N4 upper I have been meaning to swap everything over too.... I'm just lazy :-( haha

[Computalotapus]

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd1.jpg

Well the build project has come to a close. From planning and researching all the parts, making lists then remaking lists to expense spreadsheets being revamped half a dozen times it is officially closed. There are a ton of people that has helped this project come together. The most important of those is my wife Christina, without her none of this would have been possible at all. I want to thank UWone77 for the donation of the Iron Viper USAF Forward Assist. I have to thank Jennifer over at CMC Triggers for working with my wife and getting this super sexy flat 3.5lbs trigger. The crew over at Battle Arms Development and Rainier Arms for dealing with me placing orders every week. So without any more hee-hawing around let's get down to the what and why…..

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd2.jpg

At the butt end I wanted something light and something minimal and the Mission First Tactical Minimalist stock fit the bill perfectly. I ordered from Rainier Arms and at the same time paired it up with your standard Buffer Tube, Buffer Spring, and H1 Buffer. You can't beat the deal when you bundle this up. I will make my own paracord strap just need to get a nice D-ring with QD attachment will do the paracord in crimson red and silver.

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd3.jpg

I already had the Vortex Sparc and decided to use it on this build. Vortex makes a quality RDS that doesn't break the bank and it comes with a "No-Bullshit Warranty".

For the grip I wanted to try something different and so far I am really liking the way the Mission First Tactical Engage Pistol Grip (EPG16). It is just barely thicker than the Magpul MOE that I am used to and it feels just slightly more vertical but doesn't look like it is.

I could have picked a less expensive receiver set but since this was going to be my 2-Gun competition rifle I decided to go with some top-notch sexy as all get out NorthTech Defense Billet receiver set.

I think in my mind Rainier paired up with AXTS and they knocked it out of the park with the Raptor charging handle. If the build is going to be my rifle I would not want to use any other charging handle on the market. I love the functionality and the simplicity of the design and it just works and I mean it works.

Ares Armor has probably the best deal on the market right now for NiB BCG's that was a deal I could not pass up. Upon arrival and inspecting this I feel like I need to phone up Ares and give them some more money cause I feel like I practically stole this from them and just left a tip.

Battle Arms Development has made a name for themselves with their BAD-ASS (Ambidextrous Safety Selector). They are second to none and I would not put anyone else's safety selector on any of my rifles. As you can see I picked up a set of their Enhanced Pin Sets (EPS) and these will be standard on all my future builds as well.

I had put the Iron Viper USAF Forward Assist on my list and had full intentions of buying one as the quality of the product is everything that is should be. I wanted the USAF FA to remind me of the first time I held this particular weapon platform. Luckily for me UWone77 read my list and donated the USAF FA he had on hand. Don't worry the Ti-Fang FA that came on the NTD upper was donated to another WEVO member for his AR-Pistol build.

Odin Works XMR makes an appearance as well and so far I am really liking how it feels and works.

Now I know a lot of reviews have been done on the CMC Trigger and a lot of "wow" has been written by a lot of people with more trigger time than I will ever have….but they are not kidding the hype is not hype it is real. This trigger is so smooth, short reset, no creep, minimal travel the more I think about it the more I drool. This trigger is the real deal.

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd4.jpg

Up front leading the charge and displaying the business end is the Rainier Arms RMC (Rainier Mini Comp). Short and sweet to keep the overall length of the weapon system down but still managing recoil and muzzle rise to keep me on target and tracking the course.

Daniel Defense fixed front sight for when the RDS dies mid shoot. The ghost ring of the RDS and this sight I should still be able to engage targets on a course effectively to finish the course.

Norah Arms hand stop to remind me where to put my hand. I like the design of the Norah hand stop and that is very minimal but very effective as a hand stop and barricade device.

Outside we have a Odin Works Kmod Forend 15.5" of long leggedness and underneath it I have the Odin Works Ultralite 16" Stainless Steel barrel.

Overall I am very happy with the build. Blowndeadline knocked the cerakote job out of the park. His work has turned my rifle into a lead slinging piece of art.

[FortTom]

Comp, what is that wire, it appears to be a ground wire? on your Vortex optic?

FT

[Computalotapus]

Comp, what is that wire, it appears to be a ground wire? on your Vortex optic?

FT


It's a safety wire to the cap so you don't lose it when you have them off while sighting it in.

[FortTom]

It's a safety wire to the cap so you don't lose it when you have them off while sighting it in.

Yeah, I figured that out about 3 seconds after I posted....[:)] You know what, though? I'm sure I'm not alone, spending big bucks on Aimpoint products and mounts, because most of us that use them will agree that we know they work, a quality product, and can take a real beating.

I've avoided trying the Vortex because I don't hear much about them, except when the occasional person posts a pic of a gun with one mounted on it.

Since you're going to be using this in competition, maybe after about a month or so of abuse, you can do a write up on how well yours takes a beating, pros / cons etc. I'd be a lot more confident in hearing how one handles the inevitable bumps and bangs of a comp gun, over someone shooting one off of a bench.

FT

[Pyzik]

Well, I took a carbine class over the weekend (Michigan Defensive Firearms Institute, Carbine Foundation) and realized a few things that I need to change on my rifle;

1. Move my sling attachment from the left side of my stock to the right.
2. I would benefit from some rail covers and a small index point forward of my grip. I touched the low pro gas block through a keymod hole in my rail, ouch.

Class was great. After action report to come.

[MichaudIra]

Very nice!

[WHSmithIV]

the only one I have - and it took me quite some time to be able to afford the parts:

Mag Tactical Systems lower receiver
DPMS lower parts kit
PSA blem upper receiver (sure can't find any blems on it though)
Pegasus Defense BCG
Anderson Manufacturing 1:8 twist 16" barrel
A.R.M.S flip up sights
Guntec 7" quadrail handguard
Guntec rail height gas block
Yankee Hill Machine gas tube
Comman Arms Accecssories 6 position but stock kit.
A2 birdcage, forward assist, ejection port assy. and charging handle manufacturers unknown. They were e-bay parts.
There's an inexpensive red/green dot for testing. It will get replaced later.
http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16.0;attach=4295;i mage

[WHSmithIV]

As an update to the above post, my driving factor was cost. I had a very limited budget and had to build that over time. The final cost was $603.62 cents and that included everything - tools and mags included. 6 of the mags were brand new P-mags still in the package. It took me 1½ years to put that together probably because i started right at the time of the start of the panic. I had decided about a month before Sandy Hook that I needed to build one and had started planning on parts and the order of getting the parts. Then, wham, bam, parts became next to impossible to get. I did get the lower receiver with the lower parts kit - then pretty much nothing happened for a little while. Now, parts are available again and i do have another stripped lower receiver to start with. So, I'm going to build a 7.62x39 pistol from it.

[DutyUse]

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd1.jpg



This is one of the best builds on the forum. The cerakote BDL did looks amazing.

[tim716]

My first build i completed a month ago or so just waiting on checking the headspace and going to take it to the range in a week or two.

My goal was to build my dream AR with some of my favorite parts from my favorite companies, to be accurate, light and aesthetically pleasant.

Northtech Defense Lower - Chose the billet receivers because i wanted something different from the norm, my other AR has forged receivers, love the aesthetics of the northtech set and incredible maching

Magpul MOE stock - Love its simplicity and price point
Noveske QD End plate - Wanted a high quality QD plate
DPMS buffer tube - Liked the price
Spikes H2 Buffer - Love the fact that its extremely quiet when sending the bolt into battery, haven't shot it yet but i can update.
Sprinco Blue Spring - Research told me that these sprinco springs are excellent and they were inexpensive.
Noveske Takedown pins - Love the noveske outstanding quality control
CMC Flat 3.5 trigger - Have this in my other AR and i love it. excellent pull.
KNS anti-rotation pins - Rather have it and not need it that need it and not have it.
MOE Grip - Simplicity and inexpensive
Seekins Bolt Catch - Love the heavy duty bolt catch and oversized lever
Seekins Mag release - Like the matching machined set
Bad-Ass Dev Ambi safety - One of my favorite upgrades because im a lefty

Northtech Defense Upper

Noveske NSR 13.5 - Love noveske and really love everything about this handrail
BCM 14.5 HF Barrel - Quality barrel at a reasonable price point
Rainier Arms NIB BCG - Wanted to try the NIB due to its increased lubricity and ease of cleaning.
Noveske Raptor CH - One of my favorite upgrades because im a lefty
Primary Arms MD06 with AD QD mount - Very inexpensive decent optic that can bridge me until i can get a T-1

http://i61.tinypic.com/vhdswp.jpg

Sorry for the terrible picture, dont mind the rail missing the screws, it was before i installed it.

Still have a few things to get for it. Looking at some Troy/Noveske BUIS, better optic and a Inforce WML.

[Aragorn]

Explanations on your choices? This IS the explain your AR layout thread guys, and it's one of the best threads on here because of the insight you can glean from other peoples logic and choices. A list doesn't help anyone.

Pics are also more or less mandatory. [:D]

[deerhurst]

Sadly no current photos of my build. Will have to take some. This photo is from before some add ons. Everything is milspec where applicable be it for better or for worse. My first AR build so I tried some stuff.

Spikes Tactical Stripped Lower - Couldnt pass it on when these were being closed out and has full auto markings. Has since been color filled with white and the spider is now cherry red.
Del-Ton Lower Parts kit - Good price and park of a build kit. Trigger is surprisingly good and buffer/spring are nice and quiet.
Magpul MOE grip - Feels great and looks nice. I can store spare EOTech batteries in it.
Magpul CTR stock - Zero wobble. None.
Magpul PMAG 20 and 30 - Had to match the color of the gun. I only run OD PMAGs.

Del-Ton HBAR upper - Good price and part of a build kit. Big fatty barrel with no grenade launcher cutouts makes it a tank but super stout.
M16 bolt and carrier from Del-Ton - Was a free upgrade and may still be with a parts kit. Had to call them and request it. Brought down my rate of fire.
YHM riser - Got a great deal on a quality part
EOTech 512 - I like EOTechs.
Magpul backup rear iron - Setup for 1/3 co-witness since I have a fixed front sight. Need something for when the AAs in the 512 go out.
Magpul MOE handguard - More comfort and need to keep with the same color. The barrel is so fat under the hand guard that I had issues with the heat shields.
YHM Phantom Brake - Wanted to tone things down a little more. Almost zero muzzle rise and little felt recoil.

Overall, very happy with how it turned out. Between the heavier bolt, the brake and what I think may be a heavier buffer spring I have almost zero recoil or muzzle rise though it is a tank. Heaviest AR I have ever shot and probably the slowest firing one I have ever shot. The YHM Phantom brake looks like a meat tenderizer but also has a cross groove which could be useful on locks and such.

Oh, had to match the bag. It travels in an OD bag.

http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk448/ggprotrialer/IMG_0218-1_zpsa7a77e01.jpg

[Nathan_Mack]

When I began working for the folks I work with now about 5 years ago, I was given the option of an issued rifle or qualifying with my own. The issued rifles are old A1 uppers and lowers older than I am. I decided to qualify with my own gun. I had an AR that I had (built) around 2005, before the gun scare of ’08. It is a Del-Ton 5.56 upper and has a heavy profile carbine length barrel (.750 all the way to the muzzle). It already had a low-profile gas block on it and the whole upper was $425 to my front door. The lower is a standard Double-Star forged lower with a mil-spec parts kit in it. The same trigger rides in it today with polished sear surfaces and is a constant 6 pounds. I won’t change it. I had $650 in the gun total when I gave her the first facelift with a VLTOR CASV-S mid-length rail. She wore that and a Redi-Mag spare mag device for about 3 years. But, at 9.5 pounds she was a gastly fatty. She went on a diet and this is her now:

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w363/JasonMPD/DutyRifle1.jpg

At the core she is the same gun I purchased, but now she wears Magpul furniture and sling; a Troy Alpha TRX 15-inch handguard and a Trijicon RMR reflex sight on an ARMS mount. Up front, she has a Streamlight TLR-1 w/thumb pad mounted on top of the rail to facilitate the “Magpul” far reaching grip. On the business end is an AAC shorty single chamber compensator; it just takes the edge off of rapid fire is all. I left the rail section on the underside of the handguard to facilitate a stronger purchase on the gun when wearing gloves—and it does that fantastically.

She weighs 8.8 pounds unloaded now; 9.8 with a full magazine. Here are some more pictures of her relaxing on the porch before going back to work.

Here, below, is a closeup of the RMR. I went from a Vortex Strikefire to this during the rifle's weight loss plan. Second to weight savings, I shed the need for batteries in the sight. I have not had one issue with wash-out in head-on lighting situations like some claim to experience, YMMV. This sight is fantastic and holds up to use and storage in a vehicle without issues. She is showing some wear, but I don't baby the weapon at all. The BUIS are co-witnessed true to the RMR triangle.

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w363/JasonMPD/DutyRifle2.jpg

My accessories setup is minimal for several reasons. I work in a very reactive environment and lasers and IR stuff is not necessary. I really only need a light attached and I picked a rugged and simple one: Streamlight TLR-1. For $95 you will not find a more capable all-aluminum body light with its lumen intensity. And if you can, I don't bother looking. This one just rocks. I use the thumb pad exclusively--a constantly on light gets you killed.

The AAC brake is functional to some degree, but not like multi-chamber brakes. I like this one because I stay as close to 16" OAL as possible on the barrel and it takes some edge off of the muzzle rise. Ground dust/debris signature is surprisingly minimal with it, too.

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w363/JasonMPD/DutyRifle3.jpg

Just for show, some 75gr Hornady TAP ammo that I feed her at work. This stuff is like finding unicorn tears around here anymore. Once this dries up, I will need to look for another ammo reasonably equivalent. Again to save weight, Magpul PMAGs.

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w363/JasonMPD/DutyRifle4.jpg

Plans for the future…

I am looking to replace the barrel on her. The heavy profile is cumbersome and not value-added for the intended use of the gun. I am planning to replace it with a thinner profile barrel, such as a Rainier Arms Mountain series or similar 1/8 twist barrel. The current barrel is a 1/9 twist and does stabilize my 75gr Hornady TAP rounds superbly, though. So it is not an accuracy issue whatsoever.

[NORTEXED]

I started with a LE6920 MPFDE, but really didn't care much for the plastic forearm with the "screw a piece of rail where you want to put something" approach. I changed out to a Troy DI Battlerail, and mounted a Sunoptics light and vertic. grip combo (which I am rethinking because of weight, may go to surefire in mount and pad on lighter, shorter grip). Then added the K15 Kryptonite green laser which I really like for the size and weight. Next added the Burris AR536 which I am very pleased with allaround. Next came the Geissele SSA E trigger (I don't know why Colt doesn't just buy them out and put them on every rifle they make). Magpull 2 point to single point sling (wish it were a little longer) with left side ring mounted behind laser on top rail. Last addition was BCM gunfighter handle in medium to get on easy without hanging on stuff. All in all, it's really utilitarian for me.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/NORTEXED/DSCN1777_zps59e6d451.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/NORTEXED/media/DSCN1777_zps59e6d451.jpg.html)

[greenlineaz]

Background- I wanted a rifle that I could do a lot of different tasks with, but not one that would specialize in just one area (hunting small and some medium sized game, home defense, possibly using for a Patrol Rifle). Personally I think the AR family is a pretty versatile one. After using them in a (limited) military and now LE setting, I had some personal opinions on what I thought I wanted on the rifle and what I wanted it to be capable of. At the time, my job situation was kind of rocky with govt shutdowns. I wanted to be able to go from my current LE job to a city/county law enforcement department if necessary and be able to carry this rifle on duty, and this influenced my optic and light decisions.
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah294/therealmnicholas88/IMG_4293_zps59a748ce.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/therealmnicholas88/media/IMG_4293_zps59a748ce.jpg.html)

Rifle specs-
Upper- BCM factory blem upper. 16 inch standard barrel, 1-7, MP tested with a mid-length gas system. I have seen good accuracy out of standard barrels, and I feel BCM has good QA/QC. Once/if/when the barrel is shot out, I want to try the BFH BCM offering.
Rail- Centurion C4 12” rail. I wanted a railed fore end to attach accessories, and I wanted a free float rail to mitigate POI shift with accessories attached. Very pleased with the rail so far.
BCG- Rainier Arms Milspec. I wanted a quality BCG manufactured to Milspec at an affordable price. No problems so far.
Charging Handle- BCM Mod 4. I bought this to try it out and I liked that it was a stronger design than OEM CH, with a latch that was a little larger. No complaints so far.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah294/therealmnicholas88/IMG_3941_zps09fae6d9.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/therealmnicholas88/media/IMG_3941_zps09fae6d9.jpg.html)

Lower- Noveske Arms Chainsaw Gen 1 lower, purchased stripped. Daniel Defense LPK, minus the trigger group. I wanted a Milspec LPK, and I trust DD.
Trigger- ALG Defense QMS trigger. Not bad, still wondering about getting a Geissele.
Receiver extension- VLTOR A5. I have a personal friend that worked for VLTOR in the past. He recommended this part with no reservations. I kept track of how this part performed on other forums, and went with it. I have not put enough rounds through the rifle in conjunction with the mid length system to tell for sure, but so far no issues have been encountered.
Stock- B5 SOPMOD stock. I really like this stock, and I feel the cheek weld is an improvement over the OEM stock.
Grip- BCM Mod 3. Love this grip over the OEM Colt grip, I liked the perceived reduction in grip angle, as well as the grip texturing.

Accessories-
BUIS- Magpul MBUS Pro Set. I bought these because they are very low profile when folded away. Pretty easy to make windage and elevation adjustments. Like them so far.
Sling- Proctor sling. I bought this because it was lightweight, easy to attach, and fulfilled my need for a 2 point sling.
Light- Surefire Fury 500 lumen- I bought this because I like Surefire products and own several other lights by them. I feel that this light is a good general purpose rifle light. Mounted in a Daniel Defense 1” mount.
Handstop- Magpul XTM kit. I bought this to give myself a tactile point of reference for my support hand.
Scope- Vortex Viper 1-4 PST. I bought this to facilitate target engagement from 3m to 500 plus, with the ability to have a 4x zoom for precision shooting. Mounted in a Larue SPR LT-135 mount.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah294/therealmnicholas88/IMG_3940_zpsc50a2d00.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/therealmnicholas88/media/IMG_3940_zpsc50a2d00.jpg.html)

[UWone77]

Nice all around rifle. How secure is that sling?

[gatordev]

Background- I wanted a rifle that I could do a lot of different tasks with, but not one that would specialize in just one area (hunting small and some medium sized game, home defense, possibly using for a Patrol Rifle). Personally I think the AR family is a pretty versatile one. After using them in a (limited) military and now LE setting, I had some personal opinions on what I thought I wanted on the rifle and what I wanted it to be capable of. At the time, my job situation was kind of rocky with govt shutdowns. I wanted to be able to go from my current LE job to a city/county law enforcement department if necessary and be able to carry this rifle on duty, and this influenced my optic and light decisions.
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah294/therealmnicholas88/IMG_4293_zps59a748ce.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/therealmnicholas88/media/IMG_4293_zps59a748ce.jpg.html)

Rifle specs-
Scope- Vortex Viper 1-4 PST. I bought this to facilitate target engagement from 3m to 500 plus, with the ability to have a 4x zoom for precision shooting. Mounted in a Larue SPR LT-135 mount.


Out of curiosity, why the LT-135? I'm guessing it's easier to look through the optic when standing/doing anything but prone with that, but are you still able to get a decent cheek-weld?

[greenlineaz]

UWone77, the sling when being worn is cinched down nice and snug by the weight of the rifle. No complaints so far, seems like money well spent. The LT-135 was bought instead of the standard height mount because I didn't realize how low the Magpul Pros would be. Gatordev, the cheek weld is good, the limited prone shooting I have done with it hasn't given me any problems.

[Bimmer425]

I like your setup. I would look at getting one of those arisaka bodies and building up a smaller light.

Other than that, awesome dude.


Background- I wanted a rifle that I could do a lot of different tasks with, but not one that would specialize in just one area (hunting small and some medium sized game, home defense, possibly using for a Patrol Rifle). Personally I think the AR family is a pretty versatile one. After using them in a (limited) military and now LE setting, I had some personal opinions on what I thought I wanted on the rifle and what I wanted it to be capable of. At the time, my job situation was kind of rocky with govt shutdowns. I wanted to be able to go from my current LE job to a city/county law enforcement department if necessary and be able to carry this rifle on duty, and this influenced my optic and light decisions.
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah294/therealmnicholas88/IMG_4293_zps59a748ce.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/therealmnicholas88/media/IMG_4293_zps59a748ce.jpg.html)

Rifle specs-
Upper- BCM factory blem upper. 16 inch standard barrel, 1-7, MP tested with a mid-length gas system. I have seen good accuracy out of standard barrels, and I feel BCM has good QA/QC. Once/if/when the barrel is shot out, I want to try the BFH BCM offering.
Rail- Centurion C4 12” rail. I wanted a railed fore end to attach accessories, and I wanted a free float rail to mitigate POI shift with accessories attached. Very pleased with the rail so far.
BCG- Rainier Arms Milspec. I wanted a quality BCG manufactured to Milspec at an affordable price. No problems so far.
Charging Handle- BCM Mod 4. I bought this to try it out and I liked that it was a stronger design than OEM CH, with a latch that was a little larger. No complaints so far.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah294/therealmnicholas88/IMG_3941_zps09fae6d9.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/therealmnicholas88/media/IMG_3941_zps09fae6d9.jpg.html)

Lower- Noveske Arms Chainsaw Gen 1 lower, purchased stripped. Daniel Defense LPK, minus the trigger group. I wanted a Milspec LPK, and I trust DD.
Trigger- ALG Defense QMS trigger. Not bad, still wondering about getting a Geissele.
Receiver extension- VLTOR A5. I have a personal friend that worked for VLTOR in the past. He recommended this part with no reservations. I kept track of how this part performed on other forums, and went with it. I have not put enough rounds through the rifle in conjunction with the mid length system to tell for sure, but so far no issues have been encountered.
Stock- B5 SOPMOD stock. I really like this stock, and I feel the cheek weld is an improvement over the OEM stock.
Grip- BCM Mod 3. Love this grip over the OEM Colt grip, I liked the perceived reduction in grip angle, as well as the grip texturing.

Accessories-
BUIS- Magpul MBUS Pro Set. I bought these because they are very low profile when folded away. Pretty easy to make windage and elevation adjustments. Like them so far.
Sling- Proctor sling. I bought this because it was lightweight, easy to attach, and fulfilled my need for a 2 point sling.
Light- Surefire Fury 500 lumen- I bought this because I like Surefire products and own several other lights by them. I feel that this light is a good general purpose rifle light. Mounted in a Daniel Defense 1” mount.
Handstop- Magpul XTM kit. I bought this to give myself a tactile point of reference for my support hand.
Scope- Vortex Viper 1-4 PST. I bought this to facilitate target engagement from 3m to 500 plus, with the ability to have a 4x zoom for precision shooting. Mounted in a Larue SPR LT-135 mount.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah294/therealmnicholas88/IMG_3940_zpsc50a2d00.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/therealmnicholas88/media/IMG_3940_zpsc50a2d00.jpg.html)

[greenlineaz]

I was actually looking at the Haley Strategic stuff, but I want to actually handle it before I commit to buying into what they had. I guess I'll have to make a trip up to Phoenix now that they are up there. So far the DD Mount has been trouble free. Some changes I might make would be to use an X300U at the 12 o'clock position, and getting this SBR'd, and go with the KMR or an MLOK offering. We'll see, but for the time being, i'm really pleased with it.

[DutyUse]

No pictures yet because the Noveske lower is still in the mail (I hope *cough cough*), but y'all have seen all the parts I'm sure on the accessories page.

Little background, I've always been a Noveske addict, but could never justify spending that kind of $ on a complete…so this is simply my interpretation of a Noveske build, so don't get your panties in a bunch if EVERY part isn't Noveske (however most parts are sourced from the same place noveske would but w/o their 30% up-charge)

Upper:

Receiver is a Vltor Mur 1s (https://www.vltor.com/shop/featured/mur-modular-upper-receiver/) (without F/A)

Rail is a Noveske 13.5 NSR (http://www.shopnoveske.com/products/noveske-nsr-rail)

Barrel is a BCM CHF LW 14.5 Middy (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-BFH-14-5-Mid-Length-LW-Barrel-Stripped-p/bcm-brl-s-mid-14lw%20bfh.htm)

GB is a BCM GB (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Low-Profile-Gas-Block-p/bcm-lgb-625.htm) that will soon be pinned to barrel.

Muzzle Break is a Lantac Dragon (http://www.lantac-usa.com/AR15-M16-M4-Rifle-Accessories/DGN556B.html) that will also soon be pinned.

Gas tube was a ST melonite middy tube (http://www.spikestactical.com/midlength-melonited-gas-tube-p-816.html) … but I'm 99% sure it will be switched out before build for a V7 extreme gas tube (http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/products/v7-extreme-environment-gas-tube) just for added insurance…

Charing handle is a Noveske branded Raptor (http://www.shopnoveske.com/products/raptor-ambi-charging-handle)

BCG is either gonna be a Fathom Nitride (http://www.fathomarms.com/ar15-enhanced-nitride-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-fathom-arms-fa-enh-bcg[/url) or BCM BCG (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm-bolt-carrier-group-auto-mp.htm) just depends on how well the fathom does during torture testing…

Not yet decided (or bought) an optic, either be a H1, Pro , or SRS. Still need to do more research but leaning towards H1 so far just because of insane battery life and almost bomb proof…

Lower:

Receiver is a Noveske Gen 2 (http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Noveske_Rifleworks_N4_GEN2_Lower_Receiver_CHAINSAW _p/n4-gen2lower-chainsaw.htm)

Trigger is either the Elfman 3gun flat bow (http://www.elftmanntactical.com/store/product/elf-3-gun-trigger/) or the Geiessele SSA-E (http://geissele.com/super-semi-automatic-enhanced-ssa-e-trigger.html) Just gotta see how well the elf trigger does under torture conditions… afraid it might have to be babied, while the G's are almost bomb proof…

Entire buffer system is Spikes buffer kit (http://www.spikestactical.com/lower-kit-spikes-carbine-buffer-assembly-kit-p-315.html) only thing changed out is the endplate is the Noveske QD, and a sprinco spring

Parts kit was hardly used but was UCWRG (https://www.ucwrg.com/materiel/lower-receiver-parts/41/lower-parts-kit-minimalist/) featuring a SICK stipple job on the G23 by BattleCock (https://www.facebook.com/BattleCockTactical)with the Noveske cross

yes its nerdy but I have the Noveske takedown pins (http://www.shopnoveske.com/products/noveske-takedown-pivot-pin) for it…

Safety is a Noveske 60 degree SINGLE sided (http://www.shopnoveske.com/products/short-throw-safety)

Stock is a B5 sopmod bravo (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/B5-Systems-SOPMOD-BRAVO-Milspec-Stock-Black-p/b5(1082)system-bravo-stock-blk.htm)

Sling is a VTAC upgraded by IWC (http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/convertible-2-to-1-point-qd-vtac-mk2-padded-sling-by-iwc/) and for extra strength (not like it needs it) my wife is gonna box sew the QD's onto it.

Still undecided on which torch and mount because I want something tough, but still fairly lightweight. Any suggestions? [pop]

Also undecided on a handstop/vg. Probably either the IWC (http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/weapon-control-mount/) or the BCM VG shorty (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCMGUNFIGHTER-Vertical-Grip-Short-KeyMod-Black-p/bcm-vg-s-km-blk.htm)

And finally it will be cerakoted by BDL in Kryptek Mandrake to match a certain pistol & holster ;)

Point of the rifle is to have a rifle I know that is unlikely to fail me but still be light enough to have slung when I'm walking around the property without being a nuisance. If I can get it sub 7lb with optics and sling i'll be stoked :D

Will replace some parts as $ allows to V7 LW stuff to bring the weight down… but thats down the road, hoping their BN will fit the NSR...

[mustangfreek]

That looks like a hell of a build thread beginning duty.....[:D]

[DutyUse]

That looks like a hell of a build thread beginning duty.....[:D]

Plan on making it a fairly detailed pictured "how-to"…. will have to see. My 2 year old daughter is always 100mph in and out of my build room so gonna try and work on the gun and photo at the same time after she's asleep…

Same for the other 3 builds I have kicking around, all missing 1-2 small parts… Wish either the days were longer or there was two of me, bc there is WAY to much to do and not nearly enough of me to go around for family, work, farm chores, dogs, church, builds etc etc etc

[greenlineaz]

DutyUse- sounds awesome can't wait to see it!

[Thompson]

Plan on making it a fairly detailed pictured "how-to"
Would love to see this come to fuition.

Like everyone else has said - sweet build. Especially the future BDL job. Could you possibly make it any more perfecter :P

[BoilerUp]

No pictures yet because the Noveske lower is still in the mail (I hope *cough cough*), but y'all have seen all the parts I'm sure on the accessories page.

Little background, I've always been a Noveske addict, but could never justify spending that kind of $ on a complete…so this is simply my interpretation of a Noveske build, so don't get your panties in a bunch if EVERY part isn't Noveske (however most parts are sourced from the same place noveske would but w/o their 30% up-charge)

Upper:

Receiver is a Vltor Mur 1s (https://www.vltor.com/shop/featured/mur-modular-upper-receiver/)




Ok, looking at the VLTOR link and I read this:


This more rigid upper receiver will increase accuracy...

I don't believe that, but would entertain arguments supporting the claim.

[DutyUse]

Ok, looking at the VLTOR link and I read this:



I don't believe that, but would entertain arguments supporting the claim.

Reason I chose this upper was noveske used a noveske branded mur but with f/a.... I always wished they'd have offered this option so I made one with it ;)

Better accuracy? Dunno. Sure wouldn't hurt. Didn't buy it for that tho, trying to shave weight wherever possible

[DutyUse]

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd1.jpg

Well the build project has come to a close. From planning and researching all the parts, making lists then remaking lists to expense spreadsheets being revamped half a dozen times it is officially closed. There are a ton of people that has helped this project come together. The most important of those is my wife Christina, without her none of this would have been possible at all. I want to thank UWone77 for the donation of the Iron Viper USAF Forward Assist. I have to thank Jennifer over at CMC Triggers for working with my wife and getting this super sexy flat 3.5lbs trigger. The crew over at Battle Arms Development and Rainier Arms for dealing with me placing orders every week. So without any more hee-hawing around let's get down to the what and why…..

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd2.jpg

At the butt end I wanted something light and something minimal and the Mission First Tactical Minimalist stock fit the bill perfectly. I ordered from Rainier Arms and at the same time paired it up with your standard Buffer Tube, Buffer Spring, and H1 Buffer. You can't beat the deal when you bundle this up. I will make my own paracord strap just need to get a nice D-ring with QD attachment will do the paracord in crimson red and silver.

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd3.jpg

I already had the Vortex Sparc and decided to use it on this build. Vortex makes a quality RDS that doesn't break the bank and it comes with a "No-Bullshit Warranty".

For the grip I wanted to try something different and so far I am really liking the way the Mission First Tactical Engage Pistol Grip (EPG16). It is just barely thicker than the Magpul MOE that I am used to and it feels just slightly more vertical but doesn't look like it is.

I could have picked a less expensive receiver set but since this was going to be my 2-Gun competition rifle I decided to go with some top-notch sexy as all get out NorthTech Defense Billet receiver set.

I think in my mind Rainier paired up with AXTS and they knocked it out of the park with the Raptor charging handle. If the build is going to be my rifle I would not want to use any other charging handle on the market. I love the functionality and the simplicity of the design and it just works and I mean it works.

Ares Armor has probably the best deal on the market right now for NiB BCG's that was a deal I could not pass up. Upon arrival and inspecting this I feel like I need to phone up Ares and give them some more money cause I feel like I practically stole this from them and just left a tip.

Battle Arms Development has made a name for themselves with their BAD-ASS (Ambidextrous Safety Selector). They are second to none and I would not put anyone else's safety selector on any of my rifles. As you can see I picked up a set of their Enhanced Pin Sets (EPS) and these will be standard on all my future builds as well.

I had put the Iron Viper USAF Forward Assist on my list and had full intentions of buying one as the quality of the product is everything that is should be. I wanted the USAF FA to remind me of the first time I held this particular weapon platform. Luckily for me UWone77 read my list and donated the USAF FA he had on hand. Don't worry the Ti-Fang FA that came on the NTD upper was donated to another WEVO member for his AR-Pistol build.

Odin Works XMR makes an appearance as well and so far I am really liking how it feels and works.

Now I know a lot of reviews have been done on the CMC Trigger and a lot of "wow" has been written by a lot of people with more trigger time than I will ever have….but they are not kidding the hype is not hype it is real. This trigger is so smooth, short reset, no creep, minimal travel the more I think about it the more I drool. This trigger is the real deal.

http://www.computalotapus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/090914_0153_NTDBuildEnd4.jpg

Up front leading the charge and displaying the business end is the Rainier Arms RMC (Rainier Mini Comp). Short and sweet to keep the overall length of the weapon system down but still managing recoil and muzzle rise to keep me on target and tracking the course.

Daniel Defense fixed front sight for when the RDS dies mid shoot. The ghost ring of the RDS and this sight I should still be able to engage targets on a course effectively to finish the course.

Norah Arms hand stop to remind me where to put my hand. I like the design of the Norah hand stop and that is very minimal but very effective as a hand stop and barricade device.

Outside we have a Odin Works Kmod Forend 15.5" of long leggedness and underneath it I have the Odin Works Ultralite 16" Stainless Steel barrel.

Overall I am very happy with the build. Blowndeadline knocked the cerakote job out of the park. His work has turned my rifle into a lead slinging piece of art.

I see this thing everyday as it's my phone's background lol. Said it already, but WOWZERS. The bdl job really took it to the next level, though the components are spot on aswell. How you liking the MFT stock Comp? Would you still have chose it if you could redo?

[eveningbells]

Greetings,

I keep my AR's KISS.

https://openmerchantaccount.com/img/AR2.jpg

Voodoo Innovations, rifle length gas system, 18 inch pencil barrel (1/8 twist)
Voodoo Innovations, full auto weight, carrier group & bolt
Stock military trigger
Aero, no forward assist A3 upper
Bushmaster lower
LWRC compact stock
H-Buffer
BCM Mod 5 charging handle
Magpul pistol grip
Standard A2 polymer handguards
Colt A2 carry handle (not pictured/being chopped), and F-mark FSB
Mosin-Nagant sling
I use a Burris 2-7 scope with German #4 reticle sometimes
I use Federal 55grn. 5.56x45 with this rifle exclusively

Rifle build was insipired by the Canadian C7A2, but I wanted it to be lighter

After reading up and speaking with some friends about the much more damaging wounds on casualties in Vietnam, as compared with the ice-pick wounds seen in the GWOT from heavier grain bullets out of shorter barrels with tighter twist rates. I wanted to go back to the 55grn. non-boat tail round. It required a longer barrel. Voodoo Innovations had what I thought was the best one available, so I built the rifle around the barrel to keep as close as possible to the data points (barrel longevity was also a consideration, and the CT Melonite Voodoo barrel has been said to be good to 20K rounds). I do wish the twist was looser, as taking advantage of tumble is critical to approximating the devastation of the Vietnam wound data, but I couldn't find a 1:12 at the time that I made my purchase. I find that the forward assist only makes a problem worse so I went with the non-forward assist upper to save a tiny bit of weight. The charging handle I chose because I clear jams with a piece of monster tape looped around the charging handle and the other side around my boot, then jerk upwards. The stock I chose because it had a better cheek-weld than the standard stock. I'm not a good enough shot to take advantage of a free-float so I figured why waste the money. So long as I'm in an 8 inch circle at 300 I'm happy. I've shot a lot of breaks and flash suppressors and I personally think the birdcage is the best I've had, and it's cheap. This rifle is mostly for pleasure shooting out to 300 meters. I zero at 100.

West Coast Armory pinned the CT Melonite Barrel and assembled the upper. They did a great job.

I named it "The Lizard" after the Saigon Kick song. The Vietnam Delta's were the originals and still the best IMO. Shout out to the Rhodesian SAS.

[Pyzik]

Updated scope. Nothing special but greater power than the Bushnell 1-4x I had.
Vortex 3-9x40, It'll be painted after sighting in and making sure I have it right where I want it. Getting closer to a medium range AR. Would still like to pick up a Rainier or Ballistic Advantage or similar lightweight 18" at some point.
Someday I may upgrade the optic. We'll see.

Flash hider on the way too is why you see no muzzle device. Was messing around with some things.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/13124949_10156798423495720_4494583493127113408_n.j pg?oh=694984faf92f0a1648fa550983364ddc&oe=579D5737

[Mr.Goodtimes]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160817/bb0f0d077efa2b2841517c13d01500ef.jpg

I've wanted an SR-15 since the E3 IWS came out. My rifle is a general purpose rifle. It's my HD rifle, my ranch rifle, my predator and pig hunting rifle, and my two gun rifle. I chose KAC first and foremost they build what is indisputably the most modern, well engineered, reliable and durable AR-15 in existence. They're also a local Florida company for me and offer special first responder pricing which I took advantage of, pushing the price of the rifle down into the price range of a DD or BCM. I'm also a big believer in buy once cry once. I'd rather have a few nice things than a bunch of mediocre at best garbage.

I opted for the 16 inch barrel as I think it's s good compromise between ballistics and length. I like that it will launch 55gr GMX at 3,000 + FPS. Down the road I do plan for get the CQB upper but in all honesty, I feel like a 16in barrel is pretty hard to beat for a general purpose rifle.

I decided to keep the QDC FH as I'm going to be purchasing a QDC suppressor. Having used brakes in the past, I like them and the recoil reduction they offered but don't really feel the benefits out weight the negatives, especially when you consider the rifle comes with s perfectly functioning flash hider. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Aimpoint T2. It's a T2.. For killing shit quickly inside 100 yards it's absolutely impossible to beat a red dot, and with retarded levels of durability and battery life, it's impossible to beat a an Aimpoint Model T. Down the road when I get the CQB upper I'll put the T2 on the CQB and the 16in upper will be getting a Short Dot.

KAC mount. I needed a good mount to hold my Aimpoint. The KAC mount is s good mount. It securely holds my optic and is easy to remove if need be. I prefer a lower 1/3 co-witness for most AR rifles unless consistently shooting from the prone position.

Surefire X-300. You can't see the light in the picture because it's on the left side of the rifle. Jesus spent less time on me and i came out with a rather severe birth defect, I'm left handed. I've had this light for years and I like being able to switch it from my rifle to my G19. It's not the brightest Surefire 8 trillion lumen contraption but it's pretty damn bright and let's me see stuff, so I haven't really found a compelling reason to ditch it yet.

All I've done is slap a light and an optic on this rifle as the rest of it is exactly as a fighting rifle should be. From what I can see, KAC hit s home run with the MOD 2.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[UWone77]

Nice SR15. Sounds like a solid shooter. Not a big fan of their keymod handguards, but I do need to get a Mod 1 or Mod 1 upper in my life.

Is that a factory QD end plate?

[Mr.Goodtimes]

Nice SR15. Sounds like a solid shooter. Not a big fan of their keymod handguards, but I do need to get a Mod 1 or Mod 1 upper in my life.

Is that a factory QD end plate?

Out of curiosity, what don't you like about their keymod? Factory end plate. One of the things I found very appealing about the SR-15 was that I wouldn't need to change anything other than the A2 grip, and I even gave that a try first but it really was awful, especially coming from a MOE on my other rifle.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[UWone77]

Out of curiosity, what don't you like about their keymod? Factory end plate. One of the things I found very appealing about the SR-15 was that I wouldn't need to change anything other than the A2 grip, and I even gave that a try first but it really was awful, especially coming from a MOE on my other rifle.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I should have clarified, not a fan of keymods in general. I think MLOK is superior. May pick up a KAC MLOK upper at some point, or just stick to the Mod 1's.

I have 2 Legacy carbines, probably one of my favorites to shoot. I think it's interesting they used to integrate the QD into the lower receiver, but no longer.

[DeviantLogic]

I should have clarified, not a fan of keymods in general. I think MLOK is superior.

http://i.imgur.com/uyf3AVe.gif?noredirect

[UWone77]

http://i.imgur.com/uyf3AVe.gif?noredirect

So what if you own a BMW and a Mercedes?!

[DeviantLogic]

So what if you own a BMW and a Mercedes?!

Well that's easy...Mercedes would go to the wife.

[gatordev]

UW already lost that battle, I think.

[UWone77]

UW already lost that battle, I think.

That's a fact... Says my 6 year old E70!

[Frank 67]

Hi, new here. "Finished" my build about a month ago. Ruger stripped lower, built with Anderson Manufacturing parts kit, an ATI buffer, and a Magpul adjustable stock. The upper is from Valor Industries and is a 16" barrel with a carbine gas system. I don't know the brand of the BCG, but it seems like a solid piece. I'm using 10 rnd Pmags. Future plans include a red-dot sight of some kind and a different trigger group. Money is tight, so I have to go slow on this. So far, so good.

[UWone77]

Hi, new here. "Finished" my build about a month ago. Ruger stripped lower, built with Anderson Manufacturing parts kit, an ATI buffer, and a Magpul adjustable stock. The upper is from Valor Industries and is a 16" barrel with a carbine gas system. I don't know the brand of the BCG, but it seems like a solid piece. I'm using 10 rnd Pmags. Future plans include a red-dot sight of some kind and a different trigger group. Money is tight, so I have to go slow on this. So far, so good.

Welcome to the forum Frank.

Feel free to post your new rifle!

[murphy.kenji]

Adcor BEAR Elite.

I was really interested in piston guns when I started shooting AR's. This one had a few good write ups and I bought into the hype. Pretty soon I started to realize that for nearly every unique feature there was some particular drawback.

The op rod attached to the bcg prevents carrier tilt, and the proprietary spring loaded dust wipe on the side of the bcg seals out and clears out crud. But the handguard has to house that op rod and the charging handle, and it is very heavy.

The lower is just a Palmetto State Armory. Safety selector is Noveske ambi with the SCAR style levers and a short throw. Grip is Magpul MOE K2 for more vertical grip, stock is MOE SL with qd sockets. I like to run a 2 point sling from the front of the handguard to the rear of the stock, so I have used stocks which had an integral qd socket, from a CTR to a Bravo B5 to this one. Trigger is an ALG ACT, and is as nice a trigger as my limited skills earn me. Sights are just Magpul MBUS gen 1, haven't ever gone with anything else on this rifle because weight is definitely a factor.

I always want to be able to run a sling and a white light, and this rifle made both difficult. The handguard is built like a tank and is seriously heavy, partly because it houses an apparatus for a reversible forward charging handle. Not being able to use the forward charging handle kind of defeats the purpose of having an Adcor BEAR, so you can't really attach anything on the handguard on the support hand side, not even rail ladders for the cheese grater.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/9206f465c0041dda014f2187449f8b05.jpg

In the name of simplicity I didn't want to do a tape switch, so light placement was a real problem. I ended up using an IWC Thorntail, which kept the light tucked in tight at the 11:00 but also cantilevered it forward, leaving the charging handle and handguard usable. It is mounted as far forward as it can be with the front MBUS right behind it. The light is a Solarforce L2M with just one CR123 and a momentary / Surefire tailcap switch.

Mounting the forward qd socket was a problem because of, again, the charging handle issue. Like I said, the handguard is rock solid so I was able to use one of those tiny IWC qd sockets mounted to the weird collar coming off the front of the handguard. I can push my hand forward into the sling and then use my thumb to actuate the light. The sling I'm using is an Ares Armor Amentum "Huskey" sling.

The optic is a Vortex SPARC with, I think an ARMS qd mount? And a lower 1/3 co-witness.

This rifle shoots well, although it's my heaviest AR so it lives in the safe a lot. Having all that heavy, heavy cheese grater rail is a slap in the face knowing that I can't really mount anything on either side; anyone considering buying one should definitely go with the keymod version, which I really hope is lighter. It's the most expensive upper I own too. But I can't quite regret buying it. It took me a while to get it set up the way I wanted, but I feel like I learned a lot with it, and it has proven very reliable. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/27d30162134fbf4be7a7573a788faf63.jpg

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

[Frank 67]

3136 Here it is.

[UWone77]

3136 Here it is.

One suggestion.

Magpul doesn't recommend putting their MBUS's on railed gas blocks. Also the front sight is on backwards.

[Frank 67]

When you refer to the MBUS, do you mean the forestock? If so, that's how it came from the manufacturer. The front sight was installed by the guy at the gun shop. I know he put the rear on backwards and I fixed that. I'll fix the front one too. Thanks.

[SINNER]

The MBUS is the front sight. They will melt on a railed gas block with heavy use.

[Frank 67]

Oh, ok. Sorry for my ignorance. The sights are cheap Magpul knockoffs. $22 for the set. I turned the front sight around, but now it won't close down due to the ears of the sight hitting the raised section at the end of the forestock. I guess I'll break out the Dremel and cut them down a bit. Thanks for helping the newbie.

[cjd3]

If your gun shop is puttng sights on backwards, and on a railed gas block, you may want to find a more knowledgeable shop. Aside from the possibility of melting, the block height is usually lower than the height of a picatinny rail. When zeroing, you will probably run out of elevation due to this height difference. Troy and Midwest Indistries make a flip up sight that will correct this height difference and won't melt.

[Frank 67]

Thanks. I was able to get it zeroed to 50 ft. but barely. I'm just going to use these until I can get a red dot sight for it.

[Stone]

Looks like you might be able to move your rear sight back a notch or two as well...

[Frank 67]

No, as it is, I had to grind down the ears of the sight a bit so I could close it.

[murphy.kenji]

Frank 67,

Just to clarify,

1) Make sure first that your gas block is the same height as your receiver. The sights you have now are intended for mounting on a free float handguard which is the same height as your receiver or on a gas block which is the same height as your receiver. Some rifles, such as the DPMS Oracle for example, have a lower height rail on their gas block and need a taller front sight to compensate. Your gas block appears to be the same height as your receiver but you should make sure.

2) You should invest in at least halfway decent metal sights. This is more important than buying a red dot. Sell your PTS MBUS sights to a nice, earnest airsofter on fleabay and pick out some reputable sights. You don't have to spend a mint but get some which aren't junk.

If you must buy chinese / cheap, UTG has a new set of flip ups. The rear one is the sight which comes OEM on the Springfield Armory Saint rifle.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/fd768044f6880faccfca854230f2c52c.jpg

There aren't many (if any) chinese- made sights which won't frustrate the hell out of you later.

I guess you could get by with something like these:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/b46584c20d2afd8efffc8c36ff2e8cdc.jpg

But something by Troy, GG&G, Midwest Ind. etc is far better. They don't necessarily have to fold down, either.

3) Does your handguard have any metal in it? I feel like I've seen / handled those handguards and they didn't. Your handguard probably should have at least a thin metal heat shield of some sort.

4. Red dot is not as important as a sling and (to me at least) a white light. Figure what kind of sling you want to run and how you want to mout your light.

5) Not trying to break your balls. Cool rifle, want you to go straight to awesome instead of learning the hard way like most of us probably did.

[Frank 67]

Thanks for the info. White light mount is on my wish list. Slings though, I see so many types it tends to overwhelm me, it might be worth a whole other thread to discuss those. I've never had one nor do I know how to use one. I haven't looked too closely at it to whether the hand guard has a heat shield or not. I'll do that tomorrow.

[Frank 67]

OK, couldn't wait, just looked. There is a heat shield.

[gatordev]

I wouldn't get too wrapped up on the sling unless you plan to be moving and shooting and/or employing a secondary. If you're just having fun plinking from the bench (and there's nothing wrong with that), for now, the money spent on a sling could be better spent on some decent irons or a RDS.

Personally, as a new AR owner, I'd learn the gun and shoot it for a bit, seeing what it likes and does before worrying about attaching it to my body.

[murphy.kenji]

Here's a good resource:
The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49276

[BoilerUp]

Thanks. I was able to get it zeroed to 50 ft. but barely. I'm just going to use these until I can get a red dot sight for it.

If on a tight budget, the Primary Arms micro red dot sights are good for the money: http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-micro-dot-with-removable-base-eta-early-july-2016-md-rbgii

Word of warning, though: you'll likely strip at least one screw when changing mounts, so have a "Grabit" or e-z-out handy.

For a bit more money, the Holosuns are better and are what you get if you buy a Sig or Primary Arms "Advanced".

That said, if you can swing $400, wait for an Aimpoint PRO to go on sale.

[Frank 67]

I have my eye on a sight, can't remember the brand right now, that's on sale for $150, normally $250. It has 4 different options. A standard red dot, a red donut shape, a vertical arrow shape and a vertical t-shape. It uses a stand AA battery. Seems like a good sight for the money.

[BoilerUp]

I have my eye on a sight, can't remember the brand right now, that's on sale for $150, normally $250. It has 4 different options. A standard red dot, a red donut shape, a vertical arrow shape and a vertical t-shape. It uses a stand AA battery. Seems like a good sight for the money.

Sounds like the Lucid: http://www.primaryarms.com/lucid-hd7-generation-iii-red-dot-sight-l-hd7

I forgot about those, but that should also be a good choice. As good or better than the Holosun, I suspect.

[Frank 67]

Yeah, it looks a lot like that.

[Frank 67]

So I got one and it seems pretty solid. I'm going to zero it in on Wednesday. If I were to complain about anything, it would be that it's fairly heavy and their "tan" is closer to olive green. I'm talking about the Lucid red dot sight. I haven't addressed the iron sight issue yet.

[Pyzik]

2) You should invest in at least halfway decent metal sights. This is more important than buying a red dot. Sell your PTS MBUS sights to a nice, earnest airsofter on fleabay and pick out some reputable sights. You don't have to spend a mint but get some which aren't junk.

If you must buy chinese / cheap, UTG has a new set of flip ups. The rear one is the sight which comes OEM on the Springfield Armory Saint rifle.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/fd768044f6880faccfca854230f2c52c.jpg


Just wanted to throw my .02 in.
UTG is local to me and I asked my LGS (who is nearly across the street from UTG and has a good relationship with them) to get a set in so I could look at them.

For being what they are, they're nice sights. I plan on getting a set now that I've played with them.
They're like the Canik of sights. If they were made in USA or had a different brand name on them, they'd be more money and people would like them.

[UWone77]

Just wanted to throw my .02 in.
UTG is local to me and I asked my LGS (who is nearly across the street from UTG and has a good relationship with them) to get a set in so I could look at them.

For being what they are, they're nice sights. I plan on getting a set now that I've played with them.
They're like the Canik of sights. If they were made in USA or had a different brand name on them, they'd be more money and people would like them.

So you finger fondled them for a few minutes and determined they were GTG?

If only they weren't shit and made in the USA... LOL [:D]

[poimen]

Just put the last piece of my first AR on today. Anderson lower, aero upper (wish I woulda done an aero lower too...but it was bought before I knew what I was doing...but I'm hopeful it'll be decent) bravo company LPK, QD end plate, some no name buffer tube, spring, and buffer...trinity maybe? I don't remember... 16" BA SPR stainless .223 wylde, 15" aero enhanced mlok handguard, aero nitride bcg, and a standard birdcage. Magpul CTR buttstock and MBUS. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/3135e622865fbaaaf8ddbebf72f6b010.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[UWone77]

Just put the last piece of my first AR on today. Anderson lower, aero upper (wish I woulda done an aero lower too...but it was bought before I knew what I was doing...but I'm hopeful it'll be decent) bravo company LPK, QD end plate, some no name buffer tube, spring, and buffer...trinity maybe? I don't remember... 16" BA SPR stainless .223 wylde, 15" aero enhanced mlok handguard, aero nitride bcg, and a standard birdcage. Magpul CTR buttstock and MBUS. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/3135e622865fbaaaf8ddbebf72f6b010.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not bad.

Looking forward to the range report.

[mustangfreek]

Kyle would approve with the Anderson lower...[:D]

Congrats on the first build, now go shoot it and repeat...as we all know, one leads to more...[BD]

[BoilerUp]

I like it, poimen. Is that the BCM PNT trigger? I think that setup will serve you well. I wouldn't worry about the Anderson lower-the fact that you were able to assemble it means you're probably just fine. A lower doesn't have to do a whole lot to "perform". It basically just holds the trigger and magazine in place.

Have fun with it and let us know how that BA barrel performs.

[poimen]

I like it, poimen. Is that the BCM PNT trigger? I think that setup will serve you well. I wouldn't worry about the Anderson lower-the fact that you were able to assemble it means you're probably just fine. A lower doesn't have to do a whole lot to "perform". It basically just holds the trigger and magazine in place.

Have fun with it and let us know how that BA barrel performs.

It is the pnt. It feels very nice! I haven't shot a lot of rifles but I can already tell this one is smoother. Anxious to get to the range Saturday.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[poimen]

Just curious, what's the difference between the coating of the pnt trigger and the np3 bcg's?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Pyzik]

I am going to play along with my .223 Saiga since it's near completion. This is a pistol in Michigan so everything is based around that essentially. It is my "truck/trunk" gun as I can carry it with a mag in it, being a pistol. It's nice to be able to just toss it in the car and go.

I had an AR15 magwell installed so I can use plentiful and relatively cheap mags. 5.56 AK mags are expensive and at times hard to find. Plus I was having some feeding issues with the THREE gullet guides that I'd tried.

I cut the barrel back to 14.5 and pinned a Griffin Armament brake for shorten it up a tad. Thought I was going to go supressor route and may again in the future but those plans are scrubbed for the moment.

I had the Zhukov furniture on it but 1. the forend was heavy and 2. the stock had issues. Lightened it up with a alum rail out front and added the bonesteel folding stock for ruggedness.

Arisaka 300 light.

Currently only have the Primary Arms micro on it and hope to upgrade at some point. The RDS is riding on an RS regulate mount. (Though I have a Midwest now that I'll be playing with too).

She's a little on the hefty side, compared to an AR but only slightly heavier than a 16" M4 barreled AR with a FF handguard.

Changes Planned:
I'd like to change to an MLOK rail at some point along with upgrading the optic. Might try the magpul K2 AK grip since I love it so much on ARs. Krebs safety is a must and MAY swap the brake from Krebs' muzzle device system.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4254/34332500374_8f1977faa6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/UiR3eC)
Truck Gun (https://flic.kr/p/UiR3eC) by Damage Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/damagephotos/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4271/34991809602_865343d592_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Vj7aU7)
Bonesteel (https://flic.kr/p/Vj7aU7) by Damage Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/damagephotos/), on Flickr

[Evintos]

http://i.imgur.com/Hrzip8L.jpg

2A Armament - Balios Lite Gen 1 Receiver, Gen 1 BL-Rail MLOK 12", Aluminum Barrel nut
American Defense Manufacturing - Recon 30mm with Tac Levers
Arisaka Defense QD Mount, Offset Scout Mount
AXTS/Radian Weapons - Talon
Bravo Company - Gunfighter Mod 3 grip
Faxon Firearms - 16" Midlength Gunner profile barrel, Gunner Ultralight BCG
Forward Controls Design - EMR-A, EMR, ABC/R V2 556
Geissele SCH 556
Geissele SD-E
Griffin Armament M2 sights
JP Enterprises - Silent Captured Spring
Magpul - MLOK VFG, MLOK Type 2 Rail covers
Mission First Tactical - Minimalist
Primary Weapon Systems - EBT Mod 2
Superlative Arms - Clamp-on bleed off gas block
Strike Industries - J-Comp V2, Enhanced Ultimate Dust Cover
Streamlight - Protac Rail HL-X
V7 Weapons - Ultralight takedown pin set
Vortex Optics - PST Gen II 1-6
----------------Weight as seen - 7.676lbs---------------
Just completed this build. The concept was 3 gun inspired "all-purpose" with parts seen on this forum and/or sold by the forum's sponsors. Lightweight because I know I was going to add a bunch of heavy stuff to it without going overboard (imo). I might change around some things such as the stock, the muzzle device and optic. It's my first foray into the low powered variable optics and I didn't want to splurge on the Razor 1-6 (arguably the best LPV on the market). Rumor has it, there will be a Razor AMG 1-8 in the future but so far the PST Gen 2 1-6 isn't too bad. It has a very minute amount of chromatic abberation. I have astigmatism which makes an Aimpoint T1 red dot look like an apostrohpe to me hence the LPV. Streamlight protac rather than Surefire scout because of lumen, candela and the ability to use 18650 batteries for training. Not sure if I want to add a DBAL A4 (waiting on real world reviews) or go with the BE Meyers MAWL. The stock snags my left arm when transitioning to a pistol from time to time (at home). I haven't tried it at the range with live fire so not sure about the stock and what I would switch to, but the minimalist was the first choice because simply because of weight. J-comp V2 is my first jump into muzzle brakes. Depending on how annoying it is, I might switch this out to a FCD 6315 or 1815 (no suppressors in my state yet :(). Superlative Arms gas block instead of the Syrac (now out of business) or the SLR Rifleworks because I wanted to try the bleed off concept and I saw it on this forum. Too bad there was no titanium version of the gas block. Faxon barrel in 16" midlength because of profile, midlength gas because of impulse/dwell, and length because SBR in my area is a PITA and because they made the gunner bcg which was cheaper than the V7 titanium bcg and I wanted to match the barrel/bolt manufacturer. I would've gone with the Ballistic Advantage Hanson barrel if Aero Precision made a low mass bcg. Griffin M2 sights because I'm not sure if I would've like the 45 offset sight idea and I could swap out as necessary. JP SCS to mix with the adjustable gas block and low mass bcg for impulse tuning (the 3 gun aspect). BCM Grip because it's comfortable. Geissele trigger because it was on sale at the time, otherwise I think I would've tried the CMC 2 stage flat face. Arisaka Defense because of weight. Forward Controls Design parts because I like small subtle design cues with tangible benefits (the parts feel great to my fingers). V7 Weapons pins - because meh why not.
(Sorry, there's a lot of run on sentences...)

[Aragorn]

http://i.imgur.com/Hrzip8L.jpg

2A Armament - Balios Lite Gen 1 Receiver, Gen 1 BL-Rail MLOK 12", Aluminum Barrel nut
American Defense Manufacturing - Recon 30mm with Tac Levers
Arisaka Defense QD Mount, Offset Scout Mount
AXTS/Radian Weapons - Talon
Bravo Company - Gunfighter Mod 3 grip
Faxon Firearms - 16" Midlength Gunner profile barrel, Gunner Ultralight BCG
Forward Controls Design - EMR-A, EMR, ABC/R V2 556
Geissele SCH 556
Geissele SD-E
Griffin Armament M2 sights
JP Enterprises - Silent Captured Spring
Magpul - MLOK VFG, MLOK Type 2 Rail covers
Mission First Tactical - Minimalist
Primary Weapon Systems - EBT Mod 2
Superlative Arms - Clamp-on bleed off gas block
Strike Industries - J-Comp V2, Enhanced Ultimate Dust Cover
Streamlight - Protac Rail HL-X
V7 Weapons - Ultralight takedown pin set
Vortex Optics - PST Gen II 1-6
----------------Weight as seen - 7.676lbs---------------
Just completed this build. The concept was 3 gun inspired "all-purpose" with parts seen on this forum and/or sold by the forum's sponsors. Lightweight because I know I was going to add a bunch of heavy stuff to it without going overboard (imo). I might change around some things such as the stock, the muzzle device and optic. It's my first foray into the low powered variable optics and I didn't want to splurge on the Razor 1-6 (arguably the best LPV on the market). Rumor has it, there will be a Razor AMG 1-8 in the future but so far the PST Gen 2 1-6 isn't too bad. It has a very minute amount of chromatic abberation. I have astigmatism which makes an Aimpoint T1 red dot look like an apostrohpe to me hence the LPV. Streamlight protac rather than Surefire scout because of lumen, candela and the ability to use 18650 batteries for training. Not sure if I want to add a DBAL A4 (waiting on real world reviews) or go with the BE Meyers MAWL. The stock snags my left arm when transitioning to a pistol from time to time (at home). I haven't tried it at the range with live fire so not sure about the stock and what I would switch to, but the minimalist was the first choice because simply because of weight. J-comp V2 is my first jump into muzzle brakes. Depending on how annoying it is, I might switch this out to a FCD 6315 or 1815 (no suppressors in my state yet :(). Superlative Arms gas block instead of the Syrac (now out of business) or the SLR Rifleworks because I wanted to try the bleed off concept and I saw it on this forum. Too bad there was no titanium version of the gas block. Faxon barrel in 16" midlength because of profile, midlength gas because of impulse/dwell, and length because SBR in my area is a PITA and because they made the gunner bcg which was cheaper than the V7 titanium bcg and I wanted to match the barrel/bolt manufacturer. I would've gone with the Ballistic Advantage Hanson barrel if Aero Precision made a low mass bcg. Griffin M2 sights because I'm not sure if I would've like the 45 offset sight idea and I could swap out as necessary. JP SCS to mix with the adjustable gas block and low mass bcg for impulse tuning (the 3 gun aspect). BCM Grip because it's comfortable. Geissele trigger because it was on sale at the time, otherwise I think I would've tried the CMC 2 stage flat face. Arisaka Defense because of weight. Forward Controls Design parts because I like small subtle design cues with tangible benefits (the parts feel great to my fingers). V7 Weapons pins - because meh why not.
(Sorry, there's a lot of run on sentences...)

Nice! Also nice to see this thread getting some love. How's it shooting for you? I've got something conceptually VERY close to this in mind, only suppressed.

[Evintos]

Nice! Also nice to see this thread getting some love. How's it shooting for you? I've got something conceptually VERY close to this in mind, only suppressed.
Thank you!

Just completed this today and Aug 10th will be my first time shooting this build. I'm hoping the muzzle rise/recoil impulse of this build will be better than that of a Daniel Defense DDM4V7 with H buffer (A2 flash hider) and DD bcg and BCM 16" Midlength with H2 buffer (A2 flash hider) and BCM bcg. So far I've tried a friend's low mass bcg without a brake (with a SLR Sentry 7) and I would say it had maybe 10% less muzzle movement than the DD and BCM (maybe the difference was much more significant but I'm not good enough to discern a much larger difference). If there was less rearward push/recoil I didn't notice but the low mass/no brake combo felt "snappier/sharper" (for lack of better words) whereas the DD and BCM felt "smoother/gentler". Only other way I can describe my experience is liken to that of Glock 21 (sharper but not Glock 22 sharp) vs Springfield Armory GI 1911 (smooth).

The weight balance for this build (loaded with a 30rd PMAG M3) is right behind the front take down pin. My friend's low mass/agb no brake build that I've shot was muzzle heavy which I suspect contributed slightly to less muzzle rise. So if the low mass operating system with the brake is even 80% close to the description I've often read (recoil/muzzle rise being that of a .22lr) I'll be more than satisfied. With this overall lightweight build combined with the low mass operating system though, I'm not sure how it'll go in terms of muzzle movement. Also the SCS definitely makes it feel smoother than a traditional buffer/spring combo, but whether or not I can feel it during live fire is another story. Crossing my fingers for full size 9mm 1911 type smooth recoil impulse with Ruger 10/22 like rearward push/muzzle movement. I'll be sure to update this thread sometime next week.

[GOST]

Good looking rifle. I've been wanting to try a Viper 1-6 myself.

[Evintos]

Update after the range:

1. Superlative Arms gas block + low mass operating system isn't really a good combo imo (I wouldn't recommend it unless going normal mass). With the bleed off function, I had to set it out pretty much towards the end in order to get the bolt to not lock to the rear on empty. The restrictive setting of this gas block, imo, is too coarse. During tuning, I would've liked an in between setting. As of right now, brass ejects to the 3:30ish position (was aiming for 4 o'clock) with lighter load IMI Systems M193 (cartridge weight 11grams) and a little closer to 3 o'clock with IMI Systems M193 that weighs 12-13 grams and I'm using the restrictive gas mode. If I restrict the gas block by one detent click, 11 grams would fail to lock back on empty but will cycle. There was no carbon seizing but I didn't let the adjustment screw sit overnight. Any future builds I do will be with the SLR Rifleworks gas block. 85*F, sunny. Totally forgot to bring a chronograph. I'm not happy with the setting but I can live with it. I will test this setting when winter comes and it's 0*F and see if anything changes gas setting wise. If I remember, I'll do an update on the gas block.

2. Strike Industries J-Comp V2 is loud. Sounds like a 20" Remington 700 308. At an outdoor range, to my ears, it was louder when behind the rifle shooting than when standing next to it approximately 3' away. Muzzle blast/concussion wasn't bad at all. About double a Dead Air Armament flash hider if standing directly next to the ports. If slightly behind the ports, it was similar to the flash hider.

3. Recoil - with the 11 gram cartridge M193, it was definitely .22lr. Reward recoil reminded me of a Ruger 10/22. I didn't think a brake would make that much of a difference. With the 12 and 13g, I noticed a small but greater rearward force than with the 11 gram. It was no longer .22lr like with hotter M193.

4. Muzzle movement - it's definitely no .22lr in that department but compared to a low mass + agb + flash hider combo, the combo with a brake on it had significantly less muzzle movement. I would say it's 75% less muzzle movement than the flash hider combo. I can definitely see why competition guys would go for this type of set up. Sight tracking was freakishly easy. Side note: I don't do the arms forward/c-clamp/costa grip/whatever it's called. Although I probably should've tried it to see if it would've given me that .22lr muzzle movement.

5. JP Silent Captured Spring - smooth, real smooth. Also quiet.

6. Viper PST Gen 2 - No opinion as of yet. Clear glass, minute amount of chromatic aberration noticed (as previously mentioned). I didn't notice any optical quality issue at 1x indoors or outdoors out to 100yds. At 6x and greater than 50yds is when I noticed the aberration. Contrast at 100yds, not sure if it was because of all the mirage or the smoke tinted Revision Sawfly I was wearing but contrast was slightly lacking (color looked flat, Rust-oleum Hiviz/construction orange spray paint looked dull). Today's impression means nothing to me since it was clear skies and sunny at the range. If I remember, I'll try to update this post or my original post when I can get some time behind the optic in less than ideal weather conditions. (Weather.com forecast stated cloudy-partially cloudy. Forecast was once again, wrong.). Indoors (under 30yds) it's all clear, no abnormalities noticed even at 6x.

7. Faxon barrel - 3 shot - 1/2 mrad group with IMI M193 which is statistically insignificant (mixed 11-13gram weight). Multiple 5 shot groups (also statistically insignificant) 1.2-1.3 mrad groups. Wasn't testing for accuracy today so I didn't break a tape measure. Group sizes were eyeballed with a Bushnell Legend T 781545ED.

[JMJ]

Hi folks, signed up today after this forum was suggested to me by Joelski. I figured I'd make my first post with a recce-ish build I put together a couple years ago.

4089

Upper:
Aero Precision complete upper
Ballistic Advantage 16" mid length gas govt profile barrel
Aero Precision low profile gas block and mid length gas tube
Aero Precision nitride BCG
Standard A2 flash suppressor
15" YHM Todd Jarrett Competition rail
Magpul AFG
Magpul front QD sling point

Lower:
Surplus Ammo and Arms lower
DPMS LPK w/ JP reduced power enhanced reliability trigger springs. Also ran a set screw up the grip hole to adjust out the travel.
Magpul QD endplate
Milspec receiver extension, buffer and spring from Aero Precision
LMT SOPMOD stock
Magpul MS4 sling

Optic/sights:
Trijicon ACOG TA31RCO-M4CP
Magpul MBUS

I built this rifle as a lighter weight "woodsgun" for hiking and hunting hogs, coyotes and whitetails. I've got two 200# feral hogs with it this summer and it's more than lived up to my needs and wants.

[Joelski]

Nice stick bro, cool that you get to hunt with it. Hogs aren't the problem they are down your way. Coyotes aren't subject to Ohio's straight-walled cartridge rule, but since the local land fill was reclaimed and moved, pickings are kinda slim for varmint blasting. My buddy's land used to border one side and we grew up hunting out pack after pack of coyotes and wild dogs with our AR's, back in the bad kid days.

[JMJ]

Thanks bro! Luckily the coyotes are pretty sparse on the place I hunt in Mississippi so at least they aren't affecting the deer much, but the hogs have moved in like a plague. When I started hunting there in 2010 they were unheard of in the area then four years ago during the summer drought they came in and stayed. My buddy sent a pic this week of a boar that'll probably go 350+, hoping I'll break in my Aero M5 on him!

[Joelski]

Send bacon! [:D]

I wish we could use shouldered cartridges here, but the deer are so thick here, I can take them with a pocket knife. Not really sporting, using an MSR, but something's gotta happen. At least in the country we can get land owner/ population thinning permits. We pile 'em high the years those are offered!

[Jerry R]

Welcome to WEVO. Nice first post, and very nice build !

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Sure are a lot of nice rifles here.

I don't have much special to share... YHM 8810. Tossed on an Aimpoint Micro, Wilson Combat TTU 4lb trigger, Lantac brake and a Syrac adj block.

For practice I shoot offhand mostly at steel out to 200yds. Rifle works well. With the brake and adj block it's very soft shooting and remains on target for follow up shots.

http://i.imgur.com/2HS1bAo.jpg

[Jester Gunwerkz]

Sure are a lot of nice rifles here.

I don't have much special to share... YHM 8810. Tossed on an Aimpoint Micro, Wilson Combat TTU 4lb trigger, Lantac brake and a Syrac adj block.

For practice I shoot offhand mostly at steel out to 200yds. Rifle works well. With the brake and adj block it's very soft shooting and remains on target for follow up shots.

http://i.imgur.com/2HS1bAo.jpg

Wicked nice stick.

[JMJ]

Send bacon! [:D]

I wish we could use shouldered cartridges here, but the deer are so thick here, I can take them with a pocket knife. Not really sporting, using an MSR, but something's gotta happen. At least in the country we can get land owner/ population thinning permits. We pile 'em high the years those are offered!

Look into 450 Bushmaster, it'd be the ticket for those regulations! Sometimes I regret trading my 20" upper when the rumor mill was ammo was going to be produced less back in 2013-2014.

[JMJ]

Welcome to WEVO. Nice first post, and very nice build !

Thank you Sir!

[GOST]

Welcome aboard, nice rifles!

[Joelski]

Look into 450 Bushmaster, it'd be the ticket for those regulations! Sometimes I regret trading my 20" upper when the rumor mill was ammo was going to be produced less back in 2013-2014.

If I remember right, deer are pistol and shotgun only, in addition to bow and black powder. Makes no sense! The only place rifles are not restricted is hog and coyotes, along with no time and always open season, except for deer seasons.

[JMJ]

If I remember right, deer are pistol and shotgun only, in addition to bow and black powder. Makes no sense! The only place rifles are not restricted is hog and coyotes, along with no time and always open season, except for deer seasons.

That is some pretty screwy regs! Lol 450 Bushy AR pistol!

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Anatomy of a rifle for the wife.
Low volume recreational plinking steel out to 100yds.

Main criteria
Light weight
Soft shooting
Simple to operate
Not too hard on the wallet

Palmetto had an upper I thought well fit the project. Pencil barrel mid-length gas system with 13in light weight handguard. $219 delivered. They also had a blem lower for $129 delivered. Already had a BCG so I'm only into this thing for $350. So far so good.

To soften recoil and keep the muzzle down I went with a Lantac brake only because I already had one and am satisfied with it-- Joe Bob Oufitters $105 delivered.

Sending quarters down range with a GI trigger? Nah.... but the wife doesn't need a Wilson TTU either. Settled on a Timney 668-S 4lb single stage from Primary Arms-- $180 (price matched with an obscure Net dealer). I like doing business with Primary Arms.

The good folks at Weapon Evolution offered a heads up that Cabela's was selling a Trjicon RMR 3.25moa for $261 delivered. Always on and auto adjust, that well fit the criteria for simplicity. And at 2.8oz with included AR riser mount that well fit the criteria for light weight. Thank you Weapon Evolution.

Ammo... I had some PMC Bronze .223 that I've found exceptionally soft shooting. The velocity tests I've seen from a 16in barrel show it to have a muzzle velocity of 2700-2800fps... so that explains that. In this rifle it reliably operates with an ejection pattern at 3:30. All good.

The wife's rifle... Light weight, simple and soft shooting. At under $1k it wasn't too hard on the wallet. Mission accomplished.

ps. The wife thinks the 'shiny barrel is pretty'. Perfect.

https://i.imgur.com/uUtWG5h.jpg

Took a while to get that RMR shadow... haha

[Pyzik]

Anatomy of a rifle for the wife.
Low volume recreational plinking steel out to 100yds.
<snip>


Sounds like you did well.

[TheRifleman]

Zeroed to 55 grain Speer Gold Dot .223 using the 50/200 yard zero.

-LMT SOPMOD, gives me the best balance, best cheek weld, and even when collapsed it's still in a pinch ready to go LOP for close quarter emergencies.
-V7 castle nut, to shed some weight as every little bit matters.
-Radian endplate, for weight reduction.
-Magpul buffer tube, it's as if the SOPMOD and that tube were made for each other. Super smooth but not noisy at all.
-Magpul K2, it allows me to get closer to the gun with a shorter LOP than the traditional A1 and A2 grips, and allows for a more comfortable and less fatiguing thumb over bore grip.
-FCD trigger guard, not a sharp as milspec OEM.
-FCD ASF-90 short and long offset levers. As a southpaw it's so much more efficient to thumb to fire and trigger finger flick back to safe on and off. This becomes apparent after even just one whole day on the line at a course. The levers are kept in place by roll pins, not screws or spring loaded detents.
-Odinworks extended mag button, much more efficient to thumb it with the non firing support hand leading to faster more positive magazine changes.
-CMMG pivot and takedown pins, easier to use a punch should an out of TDP spec upper be placed on top.
-FCD ABC rear biased and serrated as it should be, I have tried a lot of bolt releases and again saying this as a southopaw, is one super rugged yet super fast to either rest the bolt or to put back into action with.
-Geisselle SSA, one of the best IMO 2 stage triggers and definitely good for duty use. Not too light, 1st stage allows for self correction if a bad pull is to be initiated or not before that stiffer wall on the 2nd starts.
-JP Enterprises Silent Captured Spring, smooths the cycling for an improved shot recovery.
-FCD 9 pound mag release spring, I've had mags drop unintentionally while slung, that stopped after the heavier weight spring was introduced.
-Colt mag release, TDP spec snag and problem free.
-V7 lightweight FA, dropping weight wherever it can be done.
-Radian Raptor-SL, I love the Raptor but the SL is less pronounced and less prone to snagging if there was such a thing with ambidextrous CH's. And Ambidextrous because I'm a southpaw and it's faster, YMMV.
-Microbest phosphate BCG, TDP spec.
-V7 ejection port door, because weight savings where I can without impacting critical areas.
-DSA Dogbone M4 upper, TDP spec that many SOPMOD M4's were rebuilt with.
-Magpul MBUS Pro and MBUS Pro LR, durable, holds zero even when banged or dropped.
-SOLGW M76 Wedgelock, super strong anti torque mounting system and a perfectly shaped circumference to thumb over bore with even with heat shield panels.
-Ballistic Advantage Hanson 13.9, wanted a lightweight barrel that was both durable and in a length that I could P&W to a legal 16 to get as short as possible without doing another Form 1.
-Reptilia QD sling swivel, durable yet doesn't use up more than one Mlok slot. Brings the sling a tiny bit further out so there's less of a chance of brass bouncing back in the port causing a malfunction.
-Magpul MVG, this is used as a hand stop when thumb over bore and is the perfect stabling solution for barricades, stumps, boulders, trees, structure sides, etc. Hand stop that I can have my thumb rested on and pull against while or rest against the support hand wrist.
-Magpul Type 2 heat shield panels, a very grippy texture that I have never lost gripping with or have been burned.
-Railscales heat shield, I had a fitment issue underneath because of the proximity to the gas block with the M76 FF with the Type 2's and the Railscale shield solved that and without being a fatty.
-Cloud Defensive Rein 2.0 short tube, I've owned Rein 1.0, seen the Owl in use, have Surefire 300's and a 600, and Modlite OKW & PLHv2. The 2.0 is a cooler light, has a pressure pad that I am a fan of, and has a thumb activate pressure pad. And it's very durable that gives great throw and lots of spill.
-Magpul offset mount, strong, lightweight, and durable mount for scout lights. I prefer offset mounted lights because I want a reduced area as much as possible to reduce it's silhouette.
-FCD 6315 KM-L, I wanted a great MD in the correct length to P&W and be awesome at flash suppression with a Keymo mount to mount a Dead Air Sandman to at some point.
-Scalarworks LEAP/01 1.57 that I may or maybe not change to a 1.93, durable yet lightweight micro mount.
-Aimpoint M5, both the T-2 and H-2 that I own have very stiff brightness knobs that I have to use a zen or look at to make sure it's where I want it to be. With the M5, I can visually see it and know instantly where to place it with it's white dot on the knob, and without being distracted like I would with the 2's.

This is my lessons learned from a 40 hour Carbine 223 course at Gunsite, rifle. Lightweight within reason, a simple dot with a BUIS set to back it up in case of force on force washout or a dead sight. I like my SBR a lot and it's what I ran at Gunsite that I know it works and works all the dang time. The 11.5 while a great short barrel length, I wanted to get as much velocity as I could with the shortest yet non NFA equipped rifle that I could bring across most state lines without doing asking for permission to take my SBR with me. In fact if I ever do another SBR it's going to be in 12.5 because my mind was blown at just how close in velocity a 12.5 is next to a 14.5.

https://i.imgur.com/pB177uc.jpg

[Uffdaphil]

Great post TR. Your choices are all well thought out and defensible regardless of what another might prefer. Druthers doesn’t necessarily mean better.

Love the classic “restricted” LMT lower. I have one on my first “build.” Quotes because I bought a complete LMT upper from Grant of G&R Tactical for it when I was just still mostly ignorant and had few tools. Totally agree on the 12.5” the perfect if-only-one length bug-out carbine.

[TheRifleman]

Thanks!

I got the LMT along with a KAC non ambidextrous lower back when Tombstone Tactical was blowing them both out at a great price. I showed up for the LMT, saw the KAC that was a tiny bit more and said let's do a twofer on the 4473.

[BoilerUp]

Zeroed to 55 grain Speer Gold Dot .223 using the 50/200 yard zero.

https://i.imgur.com/pB177uc.jpg

Nice build and my preferences are similar. I've been resisting spending that kind of money of the FCD safety, but I've got a mushy selector on a build and am eying the FCD offset short throw. I'm afraid I'll like it too much and feel compelled to upgrade all my rifles.

One thing I do find a little odd about your choices is the combination of lightweight components with a handguard that is a bit heavier than other options on the market. For slim line builds, my favorite handguards are BCM, so you might consider checking out an MCMR if you want to take a few more ounces off and, IMO, not loose out any strength or functionality. I do have an old school Mega receiver set that I've been wanting to put a Wedgelok on just for brand consistency and to try one out, but it currently sports a KMR-A that I'm very happy with.

[Former11B]

snip

Ballistic Advantage Hanson 13.9, wanted a lightweight barrel that was both durable and in a length that I could P&W to a legal 16 to get as short as possible without doing another Form 1.



Edit haha left the wrong quote in.



Pretty much my rationale for the 13.9” also.

That and the velocity is substantial enough for decent distance shooting, probably 4-500yds and in.

[TheRifleman]

Nice build and my preferences are similar. I've been resisting spending that kind of money of the FCD safety, but I've got a mushy selector on a build and am eying the FCD offset short throw. I'm afraid I'll like it too much and feel compelled to upgrade all my rifles.

One thing I do find a little odd about your choices is the combination of lightweight components with a handguard that is a bit heavier than other options on the market. For slim line builds, my favorite handguards are BCM, so you might consider checking out an MCMR if you want to take a few more ounces off and, IMO, not loose out any strength or functionality. I do have an old school Mega receiver set that I've been wanting to put a Wedgelok on just for brand consistency and to try one out, but it currently sports a KMR-A that I'm very happy with.

I've got an MCMR actually but it's on another upper, heh. I wanted something that was strong also, that would be resistant to bumps for zero loss with the front sight.

That's the long and short FCD ASF-90 and for a lefthanded shooter like me, it makes going from safe to semi with my left thumb and then back again to safe with my trigger finger, and then back to indexing the trigger finger in it's position and out of the trigger area to maintain safety until another threat has been properly ID'ed very fast, safe, and easy to do than other safeties. Repeat as necessary. Super fast and super positive clicks, no mush whatsoever, and is held in place with a roll pin on each side's lever, no indents or screws, simply bomb proof IMO.

And you're right, you'll be ending up putting them on all of your rifles because that is exactly what I had done too after getting my first one.

That rifle has seen a few changes since that picture was last taken. The LMT carbine extension has been replaced by an A5 FCD RE5F using the Vltor A5H1 and Sprinco green rifle spring, that LMT stock has been replaced with a BCM SOPMOD, The Odinworks XMR exchenged for the RailScales CSMR, and that Magpul MVG was swapped out for the Daniel Defense VFG.

[BoilerUp]

That's the long and short FCD ASF-90 and for a lefthanded shooter like me, it makes going from safe to semi with my left thumb and then back again to safe with my trigger finger, and then back to indexing the trigger finger in it's position and out of the trigger area to maintain safety until another threat has been properly ID'ed very fast, safe, and easy to do than other safeties. Repeat as necessary. Super fast and super positive clicks, no mush whatsoever, and is held in place with a roll pin on each side's lever, no indents or screws, simply bomb proof IMO.

And you're right, you'll be ending up putting them on all of your rifles because that is exactly what I had done too after getting my first one.


Received the FCD "Q" ambi short throw lever today and immediately installed it. I'm really impressed and it is an amazing upgrade.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-M8jvCGn/0/c29dc423/L/i-M8jvCGn-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DWdcftZ/0/cfd91621/L/i-DWdcftZ-L.jpg

I'm still undecided if I prefer short throw or full 90, but think I need a few more of these. My muscle memory is more used to 90 so I think I may just stick with those going forward.