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Eric
15 September 2015, 16:17
Press release. (http://us9.campaign-archive1.com/?u=49652a13302377cd469a19800&id=fc2871aae0&e=86fa05fd76)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbMdPStxD10&feature=youtu.be

For Immediate Release: Noveske Releases OAF Nation Rifle

Grants Pass Oregon- (September 15, 2015) Premium rifle manufacturer, Noveske Rifleworks, is excited to announce the limited release of a collaboration rifle with OAF Nation. OAF Nation is a veteran advocacy group that often laces important social and political issues (along with current events) with their own style of irreverent humor.

“We’ve wanted to do a collab with an AR company for a while now but there were so many out there that just weren’t the right fit for us. On top of that we would never put our seal on or endorse a product that we haven’t used ourselves. When the opportunity arose for a collab with Noveske I was overwhelmed with pride. I ran a Noveske as a PMC in environments from Shash Darak to Wardak, Afghanistan. Out of all the weapons I put rounds through downrange, the Noveske was the ONLY platform that never once failed on me or the men on my project. Rain, sleet, snow, or sand; it was always ready to go. Could not be happier with how this AR came out and really grateful to Mike Aland and Noveske for making this happen.” Said the founder of OAF Nation.

“Upon hearing about his experiences with our product, it became a special project. Noveske has a rich history of providing rifles to those in harms way, and we take great pride in the reliability and accuracy of our rifles.” Added Mike Aland, CMO at Noveske.

We also teamed up to create a launch video that captures the rifle in an interesting shooting scenario with all of the hallmarks that make up a Noveske rifle combined with some of the sensibilities of the OAF Nation. The launch video can be found here:

The rifle, available in three colors, goes on sale today at noveske.com. Featuring our Gen 1 forged receiver set, 14.5” pinned and welded skinny barrel, and 13.5” NSR hand guard, OAF engraving, and will also ship in a California compliant configuration.

MSRP: $1995

Eric
15 September 2015, 16:19
The video...what? Not the Noveske from back in the day.

toolboxluis00200
15 September 2015, 16:31
Sorry all the ass was distracting me

alamo5000
15 September 2015, 16:37
Sorry all the ass was distracting me

That's the quote of the day right there!

HAHAAA!!

Slippers
15 September 2015, 16:56
The video...what? Not the Noveske from back in the day.

That's the signature of OAF, more than Noveske. It can be a bit....hmmm.... :)

DutyUse
15 September 2015, 17:01
I really like the foliage one they showed on FB. If I didn't already have a near identical build I'd be tempted to snag one. Pretty good price considering

toolboxluis00200
15 September 2015, 17:02
That's the quote of the day right there!

HAHAAA!!

I have a few good ones from time to time

SINNER
15 September 2015, 17:04
Sudden desire to buy another Noveske

JGifford
15 September 2015, 17:55
The video...what? Not the Noveske from back in the day.

Well, no. Sheri, John, and Joel are no-longer a part of Noveske. IMO, they were who made Noveske.

T&A is awesome, but like I have said in the past, I have porn sites, and I have gun sites. When gun sites start looking like softcore porn sites, I become suspicious. YMMV

There were nudes of Sheri when she worked at Noveske, but when a few DID leak, heads rolled over it. Sex was not the driving sales-tactic back then. Guns were.

GOST
15 September 2015, 18:23
If this is the route they've chosen they should take lessons from Griffon Industries.

toolboxluis00200
15 September 2015, 18:26
If this is the route they've chosen they should take lessons from Griffon Industries.

??

GOST
15 September 2015, 18:30
Checkout Griffon Industries and you'll understand. Since John's passing it looks like Noveske is trying to find themselves rather than continue what John had established. I wish them the best, but I don't feel they're headed in the right direction.

GOST
15 September 2015, 18:39
I know he's not coming back, but this the way I want to remember Noveske.

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/john-noveske.jpg

This Noveske didn't leave us.

alamo5000
15 September 2015, 18:49
Checkout Griffon Industries and you'll understand.

Is this what you are talking about?

http://griffonindustries.zenfolio.com/p12295456/h5b66a6b2#h5b66a3d8

UWone77
15 September 2015, 18:52
I'm thinking this maybe a good start to going back to their roots with forged receiver sets and barrels. However, the SL furniture and a NSR rail doesn't get me excited for 2k. The video was low rent too, but maybe I just like videos and pictures more focused on the product instead of the women.

alamo5000
15 September 2015, 18:56
but maybe I just like videos and pictures more focused on the product instead of the women.

Honestly as much as I like women, I tend to agree. From a marketing standpoint T&A is sometimes used when the people in charge have nothing else to offer. I've never had any dealings with Noveske on any level, but they aren't the first and won't be the last to go down that road.

toolboxluis00200
15 September 2015, 19:02
Is this what you are talking about?

http://griffonindustries.zenfolio.com/p12295456/h5b66a6b2#h5b66a3d8

Ohhh OK I see

GOST
15 September 2015, 19:04
Is this what you are talking about?

http://griffonindustries.zenfolio.com/p12295456/h5b66a6b2#h5b66a3d8

Griffin goes way past that, checkout their calendar. There is 2 versions.

toolboxluis00200
15 September 2015, 19:05
Griffin goes way past that, checkout their calendar. There is 2 versions.

I saw that NSFW

DutyUse
15 September 2015, 19:26
I know he's not coming back, but this the way I want to remember Noveske.

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/john-noveske.jpg

This Noveske didn't leave us.

I have that photo & article from recoil framed in my office. John Noveske interview by Stickman? Doesn't get much more epic than that :)

Naytwan
15 September 2015, 20:08
Maybe its just me being over people trying to sell stuff with sex (I'm looking at you Carl's Jr) but the whole video I kept saying to myself, SHOW THE RIFLE ALREADY.

Joelski
16 September 2015, 06:47
I stared at the video for hours and for the life of me, I could not find a rifle anywhere in it.

:D

Nice!

tact
16 September 2015, 06:59
Arsenal Democracy made an OAF rifle a while back. Basically just engraving their logo on a billet lower....so isn't that basically what this "collaboration" is anyway. I am not a fan of the direction Noveske is going either.

Tyrannosaur
16 September 2015, 06:59
How come when I wear that to the range I don't get the response these ladies do? So sexist, Hillary can fix that. Nice looking rifle in all seriousness

DutyUse
16 September 2015, 07:48
How come when I wear that to the range I don't get the response these ladies do? So sexist, Hillary can fix that. Nice looking rifle in all seriousness

Sounds like you need to step your gun handling game up. Are you doing the stretches and poses right? [BD]

Tyrannosaur
16 September 2015, 08:01
Sounds like you need to step your gun handling game up. Are you doing the stretches and poses right? [BD]

I have bumped it up, but my groups when twerking are atrocious

Duffy
16 September 2015, 08:38
It can happen when the folks that were a major part of the company culture and reason for its success are not longer there.

A company's vision and direction can change, sometimes for the better, sometimes not so well received.

When Steve Jobs died, pundits predicted the end of Apple or its ways, that hasn't happened, but that was one person. If Jony Ive and a bunch of Apple core folks left with Jobs, then we might see similar change of direction.

In general terms, I'm not talking about Noveske specifically.

Dstrbdmedic167
16 September 2015, 12:52
Here's the actual rifles. No T&A...

Edit: from their FB page...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/16/948672c29b023a93ccc9fb2b2aaa7170.jpg

toolboxluis00200
16 September 2015, 13:08
Here's the actual rifles. No T&A...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/16/948672c29b023a93ccc9fb2b2aaa7170.jpg

I love some T&A.

But I think this is a better than the video more professional look

Naytwan
16 September 2015, 20:26
I'm still not sure how thats a $2k rifle.

Dstrbdmedic167
16 September 2015, 20:31
I'm still not sure how thats a $2k rifle.

Name = $1K, Rifle = $1K...

Naytwan
16 September 2015, 20:35
Name = $1K, Rifle = $1K...

Yeah, after I posted that I figured as much. I can't see myself buying a $2000 rifle that comes with a $50 stock on it.

Dstrbdmedic167
16 September 2015, 20:37
Yeah, after I posted that I figured as much. I can't see myself buying a $2000 rifle that comes with a $50 stock on it.

Yep. I'm not gonna say I'll never own a noveske product but it's have to be a earlier model and not the newer stuff coming out... Just doesn't do it for me...

Mecha_Arms
16 September 2015, 22:51
I'm still not sure how thats a $2k rifle.

...Noveske?

Liberal_Strong
17 September 2015, 01:53
Well, no. Sheri, John, and Joel are no-longer a part of Noveske. IMO, they were who made Noveske.

T&A is awesome, but like I have said in the past, I have porn sites, and I have gun sites. When gun sites start looking like softcore porn sites, I become suspicious. YMMV

There were nudes of Sheri when she worked at Noveske, but when a few DID leak, heads rolled over it. Sex was not the driving sales-tactic back then. Guns were.

im really glad im not the only guy who feels this way, strongly. call me a geek or nerd when it comes to guns but i dont give a shit if a sexy model is handling it. i wanna see the actual god damn product. i wanna see it handled by some knowledgeable guys who can speak about the rifle afterwards. but unfortunately sex sells and truly this vid has OAF Nation style written all over it. but i can agree with others, noveske aint the same since John's passing. And thats truly saddening.

Duffy
17 September 2015, 08:04
The price can be what the manufacturer can command, as long as there are customers willing to pay the price, the manufacturer can keep it at the level.

Some of the products we make would easily retail for more if it had a KAC or Noveske logo, but they don't, and we're not KAC or Noveske. They've earned their respect and name recognition.

Respect and name recognition don't have perpetual momentum, both need continuous effort to upkeep, or they can erode slowly.

DutyUse
17 September 2015, 08:17
Respect and name recognition don't have perpetual momentum, both need continuous effort to upkeep, or they can erode slowly.

Excellent observation

velocity2006
17 September 2015, 08:32
Meh...

gatordev
17 September 2015, 14:20
I guess what has me scratching my head is how half-assed it seemed. Want to use scantily-clad chicks to sell your rifles? Okay. Not my cup of tea, but that's your choice. But if you're going to do it, do it! It seemed like they stopped by the strip club that's outside the nearest military base and grabbed a couple of local girls. And, as a Production major in college, as someone mentioned, the lighting was kind of...meh.

The whole thing was weird and not why I bought my Noveskes several years ago when Mr. Noveske was still around.

The Truth
9 October 2015, 14:44
Best Recoil article ever written. I read this and started following my own dreams. This man, Sheri Johnson, Joel Allen, StickMan and this article literally changed my life. I will forever be a Noveske fan and do my best to support them. They are trying new things and doing what they think will work best for them. Lets hope the future brings more dependable rifles and less swanky videos.

GRIFFIN ARMAMENT
9 October 2015, 15:49
The rifles are turn key- they have sights attached and magazines included. Bunch of non std up-sell features- Geissle trigger, QD latch plate, suppressor mount etc. In the cerakoted versions I can see the $1995. Pencil barrels and cans... meh. I do think they are full featured rifles and the pricing is fairly competitive. If you want to spec one out and pay someone to cerakote it, it will probably reach $1995. That's really the ultimate std of price / value.

Cheap firearms really suck, so I try hard to avoid them. I don't want someone to cut a corner on my BCG, barrel, LPK or muzzle device. Granted sometimes it wouldn't hurt to have a choice left up to you as the buyer. I don't need a rifle to come with sights, or a certain brand of trigger. That kind of stuff I like to do myself. It's like buying a car and being forced to buy Husky floormats when maybe you wanted to buy Weather Tech. Those are expensive accessory items. Maybe some of the people wouldn't be complaining if that $360 was dropped off the price.

As far as the video.. I'm having a hard time understanding or believing it.

Joelski
10 October 2015, 06:03
The rifles are turn key- they have sights attached and magazines included. Bunch of non std up-sell features- Geissle trigger, QD latch plate, suppressor mount etc. In the cerakoted versions I can see the $1995. Pencil barrels and cans... meh. I do think they are full featured rifles and the pricing is fairly competitive. If you want to spec one out and pay someone to cerakote it, it will probably reach $1995. That's really the ultimate std of price / value.

Cheap firearms really suck, so I try hard to avoid them. I don't want someone to cut a corner on my BCG, barrel, LPK or muzzle device. Granted sometimes it wouldn't hurt to have a choice left up to you as the buyer. I don't need a rifle to come with sights, or a certain brand of trigger. That kind of stuff I like to do myself. It's like buying a car and being forced to buy Husky floormats when maybe you wanted to buy Weather Tech. Those are expensive accessory items. Maybe some of the people wouldn't be complaining if that $360 was dropped off the price.

As far as the video.. I'm having a hard time understanding or believing it.

This. I think with the entire market being soft, those should be options for the less common, non-tweaker consumers.

Why else would you choose a platform that's relatively easy to assemble one's self? Okay, it's cool-looking too, but that's higher on the non-skilled shooter's list than for most of us.

I have a hard time grasping the concept of a $300+ forged lower just because of the name, or logo stamped on it. Everybody loves cash, but I kind of think that if things were different, you wouldn't see that steep of difference in cost, based on a name, or logo. If that were the case, KeyMod wouldn't be open source.

mustangfreek
11 October 2015, 02:40
haha..I knew i didnt fit in around here..factory noveske, NFA goodies everywhere..ii have never had a factory gun/upper of anything nice..My shit is always pieced together and either works like shit/ have QC issues with a few certain companies or i build a good shooter...Lately this hobby is becoming a bummer, no time for it, $$ and no one to go shoot with..Anyways..sidetracked by the grumpy ginger....[crazy]....

Anyways..You guys keep at it..

GRIFFIN ARMAMENT
13 October 2015, 11:36
I agree it's sometimes hard to grasp the concept of overpaying for the lower. I also have built some Ar's that turn out to cost $2300 and then I look at the lower and see PWA and think, "Maybe I should have paid something so my $2300 gun isn't outclassing the lower forever. It's like swapping to winter tires with steel rims on a 2012 Mustang GT. $35K in car on $200 in rims.

I have local buddies in the firearms industry with $2000 Ar's with the same issue. I've gotten to a point I would put some mental value in an equal quality perception brand logo to round out the build. Hell a Colt original style Armalite Ar15 stampted A1 stripped lower from Colt would be worth easilly $300. Likewise I'd probably buy a Colt US govt marked M4 lower to re-constitute my first deployment SPR in original trim. It would just feel so nice to have it the way it was.

Naytwan
13 October 2015, 12:48
I agree it's sometimes hard to grasp the concept of overpaying for the lower. I also have built some Ar's that turn out to cost $2300 and then I look at the lower and see PWA and think, "Maybe I should have paid something so my $2300 gun isn't outclassing the lower forever. It's like swapping to winter tires with steel rims on a 2012 Mustang GT. $35K in car on $200 in rims.

I have local buddies in the firearms industry with $2000 Ar's with the same issue. I've gotten to a point I would put some mental value in an equal quality perception brand logo to round out the build. Hell a Colt original style Armalite Ar15 stampted A1 stripped lower from Colt would be worth easilly $300. Likewise I'd probably buy a Colt US govt marked M4 lower to re-constitute my first deployment SPR in original trim. It would just feel so nice to have it the way it was.

I honestly stopped caring about the logo on the lower when I realized they are basically all the same unless your talking billet. I understand what your saying but thats just me. I have 2 ARs in my safe with probably $1500 worth of parts around a Del-Ton lower.

toolboxluis00200
13 October 2015, 12:58
Mmmm. Sort of notvwant one

Pyzik
14 October 2015, 05:28
Sorry all the ass was distracting me

I wasn't going to watch it but you convinced me.

Someone forgot those ladies eye pro.

six8
14 October 2015, 07:07
The ladies aren't even that impressive.


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DutyUse
14 October 2015, 07:59
The ladies aren't even that impressive.


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Right? Looks like they went to the strip club on a Tuesday afternoon for the audition

six8
14 October 2015, 08:09
Right? Looks like they went to the strip club on a Tuesday afternoon for the audition

I concur. 😁


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GRIFFIN ARMAMENT
14 October 2015, 13:30
I honestly stopped caring about the logo on the lower when I realized they are basically all the same unless your talking billet. I understand what your saying but thats just me. I have 2 ARs in my safe with probably $1500 worth of parts around a Del-Ton lower.

I understand they are geometrically the same, but I can honestly say my PWA SBR would have made me mentally happier if it was something with a little more brand appeal. I don't know what I would have wanted it to be at the moment, but I've seen some neat lowers that appealed to me at various times- Magpul marked, Colt, Noveske, KAC etc.

Kirkland makes a softshell jacket (the Costco house brand) but I'd be more excited to own one if it were Tad Gear or North Face.