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DutyUse
29 October 2015, 15:15
"Behold, the Noveske + SilencerCo Summit 8" blackout rifle. This rifle is full of details including SilencerCo and Noveske marked lower receiver, special edition Noveske marked Omega silencer, and introducing the MLOK NSR. Head over to www.silencercosummit.com/noveske to purchase. These rifles are in stock and ready to purchase!"

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1053095034710909&id=181862575167497&substory_index=0

voodoo_man
29 October 2015, 15:28
sort of want?

Dstrbdmedic167
29 October 2015, 15:35
sort of want?

Better hurry then. The green ones are already sold out... Hehe

DutyUse
29 October 2015, 15:39
3,400$ + 400$ in stamps + tax & shipping. Pass...

But finally they making the NSR in mlok :D

voodoo_man
29 October 2015, 15:58
Better hurry then. The green ones are already sold out... Hehe

yeah saw the price and me no want.

UWone77
29 October 2015, 16:02
3,400$ + 400$ in stamps + tax & shipping. Pass...

But finally they making the NSR in mlok :D

It's called a SMOS Rail. [:D]

DutyUse
29 October 2015, 16:03
It's called a SMOS Rail. [:D]

Shhhh keep your pesky facts to yourself

Dstrbdmedic167
29 October 2015, 16:21
It's called a SMOS Rail. [:D]


Shhhh keep your pesky facts to yourself

I literally LOL'd but it's true!!

UWone77
29 October 2015, 16:36
Wait till Centurion comes out with their MLOK

toolboxluis00200
29 October 2015, 16:58
I am surprise that they did not trow a hooker and blow in that deal

SINNER
29 October 2015, 17:08
Nice of them to leave out the ASR mount and act like direct thread is something special.

DutyUse
29 October 2015, 17:34
Wait till Centurion comes out with their MLOK

I've been wanting to run a centurion rail forever... An mlok version would be badass

nijikon84
29 October 2015, 19:54
I'm waiting for the rails to come out so I can swap my NSR for a Noveske MLOK. Trying to swap to primarily MLOK.

DutyUse
29 October 2015, 20:02
I'm really liking the mlok accessories coming from kinetic, so I'll be using mostly mlok rails moving forward but I have no plans to abandon my KM stuff

GOST
29 October 2015, 20:05
Wait till Centurion comes out with their MLOK

Now that's what I want to see.

GOST
29 October 2015, 20:08
It's called a SMOS Rail. [:D]

Or an Erathr3.

DeviantLogic
30 October 2015, 15:52
3,400$ + 400$ in stamps + tax & shipping. Pass...

It's out of my budget, but really not too bad if you consider it's a limited edition Noveske/SCo build, and the cost to purchase the items individually. A Noveske Gen III ~ 2500, SCo Omega ~ 800, Pelican Case ~ 150, Geissele SD-3G Trigger ~ 250.

DutyUse
30 October 2015, 16:09
It's out of my budget, but really not too bad if you consider it's a limited edition Noveske/SCo build, and the cost to purchase the items individually. A Noveske Gen III ~ 2500, SCo Omega ~ 800, Pelican Case ~ 150, Geissele SD-3G Trigger ~ 250.

True, it's a good value for what your paying vs what your getting. But having 3 complete Noveske's already I wouldn't pay that much for a 300blk build

DutyUse
11 November 2015, 15:53
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/11/0c754f19f1c7b967cb44a796d4049dc4.jpg

For anyone else curious when the stand alone MLOK stuff was coming out from Noveske

nijikon84
11 November 2015, 15:55
It's on point with what I was also told from Noveske when I called them last week.

I expect this to be around March-May, hopefully same for the Knights MLOK :D

DutyUse
11 November 2015, 17:17
I can't wait to try one. The NSRs are some of the best feeling rails I have, so adding the MLOK versatility would be great.

I plan to snag a 7" version when they start shipping for a 8.2" 300blk upper I've got in the works

jataylor
30 November 2015, 10:51
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/11/0c754f19f1c7b967cb44a796d4049dc4.jpg

For anyone else curious when the stand alone MLOK stuff was coming out from Noveske
I know im a bit late to the party on this one. But I would be down for an MLOK NSR for sure!!

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GOST
30 November 2015, 11:47
The Erathr3 and SMOS are M-LOK NSR's without the iron X logo. All 3 made by the same manufacturer.

GOST
30 November 2015, 11:50
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0747/8419/products/STCK9712-2-2.jpg?v=1435868817

The SMOS SM13 is $150.

http://www.smosarms.com/products/smos-rail-556

JGifford
30 November 2015, 14:22
Don't care about the rifles that this thread is about, but MLOK was LONG overdue for the NSR, and it makes Noveske attractive! If only they would tone down the gas ports a touch! I'm also still waiting for the company's re-structure to be complete and their suppliers/metal cutters/etc. ironed out. I think in the coming years, we will see Noveske's direction as a company more clearly, and I wish them the best!

JGifford
30 November 2015, 14:23
It's on point with what I was also told from Noveske when I called them last week.

I expect this to be around March-May, hopefully same for the Knights MLOK :D

Dunno about rails alone, but the KAC MLOK stuff should be shipping soon after shot, I believe.

jataylor
30 November 2015, 18:41
The Erathr3 and SMOS are M-LOK NSR's without the iron X logo. All 3 made by the same manufacturer.
Yea, im so back and forth because of the price. Im sure the Noveske will be north of $280 for an MLOK NSR and $300+ for the NQR. The SMOS just gets more and more attractive.

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UWone77
1 December 2015, 16:39
Yea, im so back and forth because of the price. Im sure the Noveske will be north of $280 for an MLOK NSR and $300+ for the NQR. The SMOS just gets more and more attractive.

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IMHO, the SMOS is every bit as nice as the NSR. The finish on the SMOS is somewhat more matte though.

The NQR is the bee's knees as far as quad rails go. I wonder if SMOS will come out with their own branded version.

DutyUse
17 December 2015, 15:55
Snagged this awesome photo from Noveske's Facebook.

New diplomat SBR featuring the new Magpul SL-K stock and MLOK NSR.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/17/c38bd5d9eba846fdca9b622a4f947e40.jpg

jataylor
17 December 2015, 15:56
Snagged this awesome photo from Noveske's Facebook.

New diplomat SBR featuring the new Magpul SL-K stock and MLOK NSR.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/17/c38bd5d9eba846fdca9b622a4f947e40.jpg
Rail looks nice.

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Stickman
27 December 2015, 22:23
The NQR is the bee's knees as far as quad rails go. I wonder if SMOS will come out with their own branded version.

SMOS made that rail for Noveske, since Noveske went a different/ cheaper (or whatever label you want to use) route for manufacturers, it would be easy enough to see if the quad rail version is something that would interested in continuing. Let's face it, since they already have the material, extrusion, machines, and rail put into their CNCs, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. Then again, I don't know jack about programming CNC equipment. :-D


Regarding the MLOK rail, SMOS Arms created, and manufacturers two different versions.

http://36.media.tumblr.com/da7af3eb6f66c539cb88e9e3eff62c62/tumblr_o020ufbfFa1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

DutyUse
28 December 2015, 06:53
I've always wanted to try the quads, but the nsr is so practical and feels great in hand

mustangfreek
28 December 2015, 23:07
Drool..on sticks pic/rifle...need a a mlok to match my nsr right..lol..nice looking rail

n4p226r
7 January 2016, 22:07
SMOS made that rail for Noveske, since Noveske went a different/ cheaper (or whatever label you want to use) route for manufacturers, it would be easy enough to see if the quad rail version is something that would interested in continuing. Let's face it, since they already have the material, extrusion, machines, and rail put into their CNCs, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. Then again, I don't know jack about programming CNC equipment. :-D


Regarding the MLOK rail, SMOS Arms created, and manufacturers two different versions.

http://36.media.tumblr.com/da7af3eb6f66c539cb88e9e3eff62c62/tumblr_o020ufbfFa1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

SMOS isnt making the current NSR rails? or noveske has a different manufacturer for their quad rails?

n4p226r
7 January 2016, 22:09
The Erathr3 and SMOS are M-LOK NSR's without the iron X logo. All 3 made by the same manufacturer.

im just waiting for a SMOS, noveske, or erathr3 lower that is essentially the erathr3 lower without the skeletonized magwell and an upper to match.

Brahmzy
9 January 2016, 20:16
I like the SMOS rail vs. the Noveske NSR version. The NSR is WAY too busy with the 'vents.'

Stickman
16 January 2016, 19:51
SMOS isnt making the current NSR rails? or noveske has a different manufacturer for their quad rails?



No, SMOS has declined to make the NSR rails, or receivers for Noveske. Prior to this, SMOS made the NSR, NHR, and NQR rails. The switch block rails were NOT made by SMOS, but it appears the company that made them also no longer does business with Noveske.

Please do NOT ask me to comment on why certain things are happening. It is not my position to say.

Deadwing
17 January 2016, 05:12
The switch block rails were NOT made by SMOS, but it appears the company that made them also no longer does business with Noveske.

Well, that's a shame. My Gen 3 Switchblock equipped SBR has a SWS made quad rail, and it's a superb piece of work. I'd say it's one of my favorite quad rails, right along side my DD RIS II rails.

DutyUse
17 January 2016, 05:27
Well, that's a shame. My Gen 3 Switchblock equipped SBR has a SWS made quad rail, and it's a superb piece of work. I'd say it's one of my favorite quad rails, right along side my DD RIS II rails.

Bah you mean that 10.5" switchblock SBR you got? Total crap. The one's Anderson owners even turn their noses up at. Unreliable junk...not worth the aluminum and steel it's made from.

I'll grudgingly give you 900$ so you can remove the overwhelming shame you must feel for owning it [BD]

n4p226r
17 January 2016, 06:33
No, SMOS has declined to make the NSR rails, or receivers for Noveske. Prior to this, SMOS made the NSR, NHR, and NQR rails. The switch block rails were NOT made by SMOS, but it appears the company that made them also no longer does business with Noveske.

Please do NOT ask me to comment on why certain things are happening. It is not my position to say.


No need to comment really. Relationships between suppliers and them shouldn't make any difference on the product that gets put out to the consumer. There is only one name stamped on the lower. Judging by the abundance of posts by people that have inside knowledge and the increased number of issues that have occurred since the gen 2 lower fiasco, it's pretty easy to see where the problem is. The problem is, they still have a recipe for great products people want, and what looks like great products in the works that aren't yet released (but have been leaked for over a year). They just need to figure out a way to deliver.

UWone77
17 January 2016, 07:15
No need to comment really. Relationships between suppliers and them shouldn't make any difference on the product that gets put out to the consumer. There is only one name stamped on the lower. Judging by the abundance of posts by people that have inside knowledge and the increased number of issues that have occurred since the gen 2 lower fiasco, it's pretty easy to see where the problem is. The problem is, they still have a recipe for great products people want, and what looks like great products in the works that aren't yet released (but have been leaked for over a year). They just need to figure out a way to deliver.

You nailed it. Who cares what you have coming down the pipeline, or what you're working on. If you don't deliver, no one cares.

JGifford
18 January 2016, 00:25
RIP, now the legacy, too. : (

DutyUse
18 January 2016, 01:46
So I guess I shouldn't hold my breathe for a mlok nsr now? They had mentioned early 2016 for release, but I'm guessing that was before the split

Deadwing
18 January 2016, 01:54
So I guess I shouldn't hold my breathe for a mlok nsr now? They had mentioned early 2016 for release, but I'm guessing that was before the split

I never hold my breath for anything Noveske these days. I've been waiting on NQRs to hit the street for a long time.

Deadwing
18 January 2016, 01:57
Bah you mean that 10.5" switchblock SBR you got? Total crap. The one's Anderson owners even turn their noses up at. Unreliable junk...not worth the aluminum and steel it's made from.

I'll grudgingly give you 900$ so you can remove the overwhelming shame you must feel for owning it [BD]

LOL! It's great and terrible shame. But it's a burden i bear for the greater good and it would be incredibly selfish of me to pass that shame on to someone else. [BD]

DutyUse
18 January 2016, 02:06
I don't think I've even see many NQRs for sale. And the ones I have seen on the secondary market are out of my budget. I think for the money the Ris II is a better railsystem for most people.

And drat I thought I could convince you with that speech. I guess I'll just keep waiting :D

Deadwing
18 January 2016, 02:25
I don't think I've even see many NQRs for sale. And the ones I have seen on the secondary market are out of my budget. I think for the money the Ris II is a better railsystem for most people.

And drat I thought I could convince you with that speech. I guess I'll just keep waiting :D

I think the RIS II is a superior rail system, hands down. If Daniel Defense still made the GL/SSC RIS II and sold it to the public, i wouldn't much care about the NQR. I want one for my 12.5" upper. The GL/SSC is what i really want. But the only one i've ever seen "in the wild" was in some of Stickman's photos. I don't expect i'll ever find one for sale, but i keep looking none the less.

And you get an A for effort on your speech. [BD] I doubt you'll be waiting as long for a 10.5 Switchblock upper as i will for a GL/SSC.

DutyUse
18 January 2016, 02:35
Well I wish you luck with the search. I've practically given up thinking I'll find a 10.5 switch. I think I'll be content just re-creating the concept with a DD barrel, geissele rail and SLR adjustable gas block. The big advantage I saw with the Noveske was the robustness of the switchblock system, but I think the SLR adjustable gas block has overcome some of the shortcomings of other "setting type" adjustables. Time will tell though

Deadwing
18 January 2016, 03:18
Well I wish you luck with the search. I've practically given up thinking I'll find a 10.5 switch. I think I'll be content just re-creating the concept with a DD barrel, geissele rail and SLR adjustable gas block. The big advantage I saw with the Noveske was the robustness of the switchblock system, but I think the SLR adjustable gas block has overcome some of the shortcomings of other "setting type" adjustables. Time will tell though

You gotta be quick when they come up for sale. ROG Tactical had some as recently as November, if i remember correctly. I was tempted to pick one up, since it had a CHF barrel and mine is stainless. You'll be the first to know if i ever see one pop up for sale someplace.

n4p226r
18 January 2016, 04:45
I never hold my breath for anything Noveske these days. I've been waiting on NQRs to hit the street for a long time.

i wanted to pick one up too if it used the same barrel nut as the NSR.

Deadwing
18 January 2016, 04:52
i wanted to pick one up too if it used the same barrel nut as the NSR.

Barrel nut is the same.

UWone77
18 January 2016, 11:06
I don't think I've even see many NQRs for sale. And the ones I have seen on the secondary market are out of my budget. I think for the money the Ris II is a better railsystem for most people.

And drat I thought I could convince you with that speech. I guess I'll just keep waiting :D

You missed when Deadwing pried one from my hands. ;)

Deadwing
18 January 2016, 17:08
You missed when Deadwing pried one from my hands. ;)

A pile of cash makes a great pry bar. [BD]

John Moses
18 January 2016, 18:00
I just traded a Noveske (RCA) BCG for a NQR....rock it on my 12"Crusader and Ops Inc Can Nice rail (SWS) makes....don't forget the $50 wrench also....

UWone77
18 January 2016, 18:35
I do love me some NQR Action.

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jataylor
18 January 2016, 18:36
I do love me some NQR Action.

345
Still a sweet looking rail.

JT

UWone77
18 January 2016, 18:40
The FDE one is still my fave, but I plan to build out that 9.15" NQR with a 10.5" CHF Lo Pro Barrel

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jataylor
18 January 2016, 18:41
The FDE one is still my fave, but I plan to build out that 9.15" NQR with a 10.5" CHF Lo Pro Barrel

346
Nice! Im kicking myself for not buying that rail from you a few months ago!

JT

DutyUse
18 January 2016, 19:00
The FDE one is still my fave, but I plan to build out that 9.15" NQR with a 10.5" CHF Lo Pro Barrel

346

Skeet skeet skeet. *Mind blown*

Deadwing
18 January 2016, 20:15
I do love me some NQR Action.

345

Hot stuff! Those would sell like crazy if they'd ever make it to market. I missed out on a take-off 11" NQR by minutes not too long ago. I'm still pissed about it lol. I'd dump the 11" NSR on my 12.5" upper in a heartbeat for an NQR.

That FDE rifle is damn sexy btw.

UWone77
19 January 2016, 09:51
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DutyUse
19 January 2016, 10:17
The fde Noveske marked ADM scope mount is just showing off

UWone77
19 January 2016, 10:26
The fde Noveske marked ADM scope mount is just showing off

I forget how many Noveske Fan's we have here. I should post more Noveske pics.

Deadwing
19 January 2016, 12:08
The fde Noveske marked ADM scope mount is just showing off

You mean like this?

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/photo6_zps46fd980d.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/photo6_zps46fd980d.jpg.html)

UWone77
19 January 2016, 12:10
LOL... Deadwing doubled down!

DutyUse
19 January 2016, 13:18
I hate the internet sometimes

n4p226r
19 January 2016, 15:02
i think i need one of those to replace the 13.5" NSR on my 18" rifle build

n4p226r
19 January 2016, 15:07
I forget how many Noveske Fan's we have here. I should post more Noveske pics.

are there any non-noveske fans on here? seems even those that bitch about them just complain because they are fans.

Deadwing
19 January 2016, 18:23
I hate the internet sometimes

Sorry, i couldn't resist! :P

DutyUse
19 January 2016, 18:25
Sorry, i couldn't resist! :P

How long have you had that one? If you don't mind me asking. I've never seen them in stock before. Or the "windowed" version of the same mount

Deadwing
19 January 2016, 18:44
How long have you had that one? If you don't mind me asking. I've never seen them in stock before. Or the "windowed" version of the same mount

I've had it almost two years. I got it from Mike at ROG Tactical. I do believe he ordered it from Noveske for me. You may want to shoot him an email after SHOT and see if he can secure one for you.

alamo5000
19 January 2016, 18:45
are there any non-noveske fans on here?

I can't throw them under the bus or anything because I don't know enough, but it seems to me that Noveske back in the day was led by some of the most knowledgeable and forward thinking people in the industry.

It doesn't seem like that is the case anymore. I can't count myself as a fan merely because I wasn't involved during their heyday.

JGifford
20 January 2016, 00:56
are there any non-noveske fans on here? seems even those that bitch about them just complain because they are fans.

I guess I'll raise my hand. I don't actively dislike Noveske, as they DID handle my issue with their product, but I won't buy another one because of the company's current situation. No emotion in it. I love the LOOK of the product.

BoilerUp
20 January 2016, 05:58
are there any non-noveske fans on here? seems even those that bitch about them just complain because they are fans.

I'm certainly no Noveske fanboi. I'm a sucker for value and also love an uderdog. Noveske is neither in my estimation. Keep in mind, I think billet receivers in general are a waste of money. I've only been "in to" AR's since after John Noveske passed away, though, so I don't have any nostalgia or history with the company from its heyday. I do appreciate that their barrels are of very high quality (I still think they're too expensive in the current competitive market) and I am warming up to the NSR.

mustangfreek
20 January 2016, 07:24
I hate the internet sometimes

Lol...I hear ya

That is a good looking rail, is it wrong to say I've never had a real quad rail ( only wannabe 15-22 crap) but damn that is a good looking rail..

My wannabe noveske part's' rifle would look good with just a matching upper, the clean lines look nice..like the smos set..

Deadwing--Very nice rifle sir..

Deadwing
20 January 2016, 08:13
Lol...I hear ya

That is a good looking rail, is it wrong to say I've never had a real quad rail ( only wannabe 15-22 crap) but damn that is a good looking rail..

My wannabe noveske part's' rifle would look good with just a matching upper, the clean lines look nice..like the smos set..

Deadwing--Very nice rifle sir..

Thank you, kind sir!

n4p226r
17 June 2016, 16:45
http://www.noveske.com/collections/parts/products/noveske-nsr-mlok-rail On their site now

Brahmzy
17 June 2016, 17:26
Man that things ugly.

n4p226r
17 June 2016, 17:31
Can't say I disagree.

velocity2006
17 June 2016, 18:39
Really wish they would do something new with the barrel nut, such an outdated design. I don't think I'd ever buy another rail I would have to shim/time.

UWone77
17 June 2016, 18:52
Really wish they would do something new with the barrel nut, such an outdated design. I don't think I'd ever buy another rail I would have to shim/time.

I'm with you. Hard to get excited about the MLOK NSR anyway since SMOS sold us those receiver sets with essentially the MLOK NSR

Dstrbdmedic167
17 June 2016, 19:05
Can't say I'm excited one way or another but I'm certain they know a few professional photographers.. My god, I think my 6s+ takes better pics than that...

n4p226r
17 June 2016, 21:50
Really wish they would do something new with the barrel nut, such an outdated design. I don't think I'd ever buy another rail I would have to shim/time.

I've only installed NSRs and standard milspec barrel nuts. Does that really save that much time not having to time a barrel nut?

n4p226r
17 June 2016, 21:52
Rough crowd tonight. I'm not even interested. I just thought I'd update the thread. My bad. Hahahaha

UWone77
17 June 2016, 22:08
Rough crowd tonight. I'm not even interested. I just thought I'd update the thread. My bad. Hahahaha

Ha!

I think I've installed enough NSR's and Parallax Rails to know I absolutely hate that type of barrel nut design.

n4p226r
17 June 2016, 22:41
I've spent the last hour looking at rail install videos. Looking at the geissele install I could see why that is a significant amount better. I never put much thought into it as it only takes an extra 2-3 minutes and I'll never touch it again after that

Joelski
18 June 2016, 04:01
What is this "timing" you speak of?

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Deadwing
19 June 2016, 04:16
Ha!

I think I've installed enough NSR's and Parallax Rails to know I absolutely hate that type of barrel nut design.

I couldn't agree more. The only rail i've ever installed that required the barrel nut be timed that was 100% painless was the ALG EMR.

n4p226r
19 June 2016, 15:44
I couldn't agree more. The only rail i've ever installed that required the barrel nut be timed that was 100% painless was the ALG EMR.

Maybe that's why I didn't have an issue with the NSR. I shimmed the first one I installed with ALG shims and it lined up right around 40 ft lb. the second lined up at 45 ft lb with no shims.

velocity2006
21 June 2016, 12:15
When you can go with a system, where the builder only has to torque the nut and install the rail, it makes going back to an antiquated design a hard pill to swallow.

n4p226r
21 June 2016, 17:41
I totally get it. But unfortunately that's the price I have to pay to have a barrel nut that works with the NSR and NQR. I just wish the SMOS rails had the same hole pattern