SMOS Build Thread

[Pyzik]

I reconfigured my lower today and feel much better about it. I replaced the grey Magpul furniture with black furniture: A Magpul MOE K2 and a B5 SOPMOD Bravo stock. I really dig it.

I also replaces the ALG ACT with a QMS because, quite frankly, the ACT felt like shit. The ACT was creepy, heavy, and not at all what i would've expected considering how nice the QMS triggers i've used have been. So, do i contact ALG, or Geissele (since they actually make the triggers for ALG)?

Now to get off my lazy ass and finish the upper. I've got an optic ready for it: an Aimpoint ACO in a QRP mount that i sourced from a PRO that got a Bobro mount.
Cmon man. Pics. Sounds awesome.

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[Josh S.]

I'm so close to selling my USO to fund the rest of the SMOS build. Trying to decide if I'd rather have 2 functioning rifles or 1 functioning rifle and a badass paper weight haha

[EO3]

I'm so close to selling my USO to fund the rest of the SMOS build. Trying to decide if I'd rather have 2 functioning rifles or 1 functioning rifle and a badass paper weight haha

I'm in the exact same boat! I think I've decided to sell some things off so I can build this SMOS set.

[Deadwing]

Cmon man. Pics. Sounds awesome.

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I'll try and snap a few pics after work today.

[Pyzik]

Well poop.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160209/1f31d81dfcd259bc6d4502fc4dd59a19.jpg

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[Deadwing]

Well poop.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160209/1f31d81dfcd259bc6d4502fc4dd59a19.jpg

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Boooooo!!!

[Josh S.]

Well poop.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160209/1f31d81dfcd259bc6d4502fc4dd59a19.jpg

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And just like that, a Magpul returning customer was born...

[UWone77]

Well poop.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160209/1f31d81dfcd259bc6d4502fc4dd59a19.jpg

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Are they talking about the BCM stock with the cheek welds?

[Pyzik]

Are they talking about the BCM stock with the cheek welds?
That's what I was referring to when I asked them.

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[UWone77]

That's what I was referring to when I asked them.

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Picture a standard BCM stock with an ACS cheek weld. They are nice, and the ones I played with were close to production models. I bet late Spring/Summer

[Pyzik]

Picture a standard BCM stock with an ACS cheek weld. They are nice, and the ones I played with were close to production models. I bet late Spring/Summer
I played with one at SHOT and that's what made up my mind. I liked it.

Guess I'll just have to be patient.

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[Aragorn]

I played with one at SHOT and that's what made up my mind. I liked it.

Guess I'll just have to be patient.

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[Pyzik]

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Accurate.

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[Deadwing]

I played with one at SHOT and that's what made up my mind. I liked it.

Guess I'll just have to be patient.

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Patience may be a virtue, it just isn't one of mine.

I'll try posting pictures of my lower tomorrow after work. Setting up my new phone turned into an adventure i really didn't want to take and i've got to be up at 0330 for work, so no time tonight.

[Farva]

Patience may be a virtue, it just isn't one of mine.

Ditto!!

[Deadwing]

A couple quick photos of my completed SMOS GFY lower...

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[Josh S.]

A couple quick photos of my completed SMOS GFY lower...

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Lookin good! I've been trying to decide on a stock but I may have to get another SOPMOD after seeing yours.

Did you cerakote the lower or is it just the picture? The top pic looks Cerakoted and the bottom one looks black.

[Deadwing]

Lookin good! I've been trying to decide on a stock but I may have to get another SOPMOD after seeing yours.

Did you cerakote the lower or is it just the picture? The top pic looks Cerakoted and the bottom one looks black.

Thanks. The stock is a B5 Systems SOPMOD Bravo. No Cerakote, just the factory anodizing and the light.

[Josh S.]

Thanks. The stock is a B5 Systems SOPMOD Bravo. No Cerakote, just the factory anodizing and the light.

Gotcha. I used to own an LMT SOPMOD and loved it. I could take a nap on that cheekweld lol

[Deadwing]

Gotcha. I used to own an LMT SOPMOD and loved it. I could take a nap on that cheekweld lol

I own only one LMT SOPMOD stock. The rest are B5 Enhanced SOPMODs, which are essentially identical to the LMT stock, but half the price. One of my favorite stocks.

[Josh S.]

I own only one LMT SOPMOD stock. The rest are B5 Enhanced SOPMODs, which are essentially identical to the LMT stock, but half the price. One of my favorite stocks.

Any noticeable difference in tightness between the two? Loose buttstocks are a pet peeve of mine and my LMT was TIGHT. If the B5 is similar I may have to give it a shot.

[Deadwing]

Any noticeable difference in tightness between the two? Loose buttstocks are a pet peeve of mine and my LMT was TIGHT. If the B5 is similar I may have to give it a shot.

Every B5 stock I've owned has been nice and snug on the reciever extension, no slop or rattle. YMMV.

[Farva]

B5 is a solid choice. I love them. Cheek weld is awesome. Only reason I went with the BCM stock over the B5 was because I wanted to try the BCM stock. Wife's rifle has the B5 on it. With BCM's sopmod thing they got coming it might be the best of both worlds.

[DutyUse]

A couple quick photos of my completed SMOS GFY lower...

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Looks killer bro. Can't wait to see what the rifle is gonna look like

[Deadwing]

Looks killer bro. Can't wait to see what the rifle is gonna look like

Thanks, brother. I hope to get the rifle finished this weekend.

[DutyUse]

Thanks, brother. I hope to get the rifle finished this weekend.

What kind of barrel are you using in this build? Any idea about optic?

[Deadwing]

What kind of barrel are you using in this build? Any idea about optic?

Barrel is a Centurion Arms 16" CHF. Optic will be an Aimpoint ACO in a QRP mount I got from a PRO that got installed in a Bobro mount.

[Pyzik]

Barrel is a Centurion Arms 16" CHF. Optic will be an Aimpoint ACO in a QRP mount I got from a PRO that got installed in a Bobro mount.
Nice!

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[Duffy]

David, do you need an ABC/R or two? Let me know and they'll be on their way [:D]

[Deadwing]

David, do you need an ABC/R or two? Let me know and they'll be on their way [:D]

Who doesn't need an ABC/R or two? LOL! :P

[Deadwing]

Nice!

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Thanks. It should be pretty sweet. I'm using all premium parts on this rifle (Forward Controls Design, BAD, BCE, Centurion, etc.). I need to pick up an M-Lok QD sling mount, but everything else is ready for assembly.

[UWone77]

Barrel is a Centurion Arms 16" CHF. Optic will be an Aimpoint ACO in a QRP mount I got from a PRO that got installed in a Bobro mount.

I was going to do that but then realized I gave away all my QRP2 mounts!

[Deadwing]

I was going to do that but then realized I gave away all my QRP2 mounts!

They're handy to have around! I just replaced the el cheapo mount base on a Primary Arms Comp M4 style sight with a QRP2 base. Works like a charm!

[DutyUse]

Thanks. It should be pretty sweet. I'm using all premium parts on this rifle (Forward Controls Design, BAD, BCE, Centurion, etc.). I need to pick up an M-Lok QD sling mount, but everything else is ready for assembly.

That should turn out badass! The Noveske 300 sbr should be done in the next few weeks, so I'm hoping the SMOS kit will be my next project. It to good of a deal to pass up!

[UWone77]

They're handy to have around! I just replaced the el cheapo mount base on a Primary Arms Comp M4 style sight with a QRP2 base. Works like a charm!

Heh.... the one downside to giving away a bunch of stuff. Later you forgot you did, then tear apart your work area to look for it, trying to convince yourself you didn't go nuts and you really did have it!

[Deadwing]

That should turn out badass! The Noveske 300 sbr should be done in the next few weeks, so I'm hoping the SMOS kit will be my next project. It to good of a deal to pass up!

I'll be sure and post pics as motivators. [BD] Although if Pyzik's photos don't make you want to build an SMOS set, mine won't have any effect!


Heh.... the one downside to giving away a bunch of stuff. Later you forgot you did, then tear apart your work area to look for it, trying to convince yourself you didn't go nuts and you really did have it!

Sometimes I'll give something away and forget I did it and tear things apart trying to find it. The other problem I have is that my work area is far too small and things get misplaced a lot. Or I'll put things where they fit and not necessarily where they belong and lose my mind trying to find it again!

[Dstrbdmedic167]

How you start the weekend...

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[Pyzik]

Hoe you start the weekend...

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Stop it! [emoji7]

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[Dstrbdmedic167]

so thinking about some cerakote on this one... Bazooka green maybe?

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[EO3]

so thinking about some cerakote on this one... Bazooka green maybe?

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HECK YES! I love the bazooka green. I'm a huge FDE fanboy (as you'll see as soon as my GFY set comes in), but I'm really itching to do a build with the bazooka green. Go for it!

[Dstrbdmedic167]

HECK YES! I love the bazooka green. I'm a huge FDE fanboy (as you'll see as soon as my GFY set comes in), but I'm really itching to do a build with the bazooka green. Go for it!

Fitting as the official name is Noveske Bazooka Green. I'm not normally a fan of green but I like that color for some reason.

[EO3]

Fitting as the official name is Noveske Bazooka Green. I'm bot normally a fan of green but I like that color for some reason.

I'm in the same boat. OD Green has always been kind of "meh" to me, but I also really like the bazooka green. And, it is fitting!

[UWone77]

Got a Non-GFY SMOS Set.

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[Deadwing]

Got a Non-GFY SMOS Set.

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I love the mule logo.

[EO3]

Got a Non-GFY SMOS Set.

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Wish they'd make their upper with FAs too...

[UWone77]

Wish they'd make their upper with FAs too...

I try to think of it as $15 I don't have to spend, if there is no F/A. Besides, when's the last time you used a F/A ?

[Pyzik]

I try to think of it as $15 I don't have to spend, if there is no F/A. Besides, when's the last time you used a F/A ?
Pretty much my feeling as well.
Sometimes the FA can "complete" the look though.

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[gatordev]

I try to think of it as $15 I don't have to spend, if there is no F/A. Besides, when's the last time you used a F/A ?

Actually, today. And another time a few weeks ago. Today was when I needed to press check and I had no idea where the bullets were in the mag, so I couldn't confirm with a mag check. After 200-some rounds suppressed, it gave me a warm fuzzy to bop the FA to make sure the bolt was in battery. A few weeks ago, I had managed to run my MK18 to its breaking point (to be fair, probably in part due to not enough lube... not to mention it hadn't been cleaned in 100's of suppressed rounds). As I sent the bolt home after a reload, it would not fully go forward. Happened twice, and again, it was nice to have the FA, since I knew why there was a hold up.

I know there's lots of drama about FAs, but I like to have them, as occasionally they serve there purpose, at least to me.

[EO3]

Pretty much my feeling as well.
Sometimes the FA can "complete" the look though.

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Exactly! It's pretty much just aesthetics for me. I think to date, I've only used it twice... I guess I should've clarified. I wish they also made uppers with the FA, just so the option was there.

[UWone77]

I have no idea what I'm building these up into. I'm thinking one maybe a precision rig, as I have an extra 16" RA UltraMatch barrel, other maybe a 14.5" Carbine.

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[Dstrbdmedic167]

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[EO3]

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Nice! What optic are you going with?

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Nice! What optic are you going with?

Probably the Vortex Strike Eagle depending in how I finish it up. Like UW in still in the air on how I want to build it.

[UWone77]

Nice! What optic are you going with?

Likely something in the "budget" arena. [:D]

[mustangfreek]

I have no idea what I'm building these up into. I'm thinking one maybe a precision rig, as I have an extra 16" RA UltraMatch barrel, other maybe a 14.5" Carbine
http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=629&d=1455476568
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Drool....very nice

[mustangfreek]

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Again you guys are killing it with the pics and smos stuff..

Nice pile of goods sir, should turn out nice.

[Pyzik]

Likely something in the "budget" arena. [:D]
:( guess I'll just go with irons.

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[Dstrbdmedic167]

Likely something in the "budget" arena. [:D]

Not everyone can run around with Razor HD's and Elcans...

[Deadwing]

Not everyone can run around with Razor HD's and Elcans...

Wouldn't that be nice...

[EO3]

Not everyone can run around with Razor HD's and Elcans...

WHAT?! You mean you can't have a bunch of optics that cost more than the whole rifle itself?? (No offense to those that can... no jealousy here at all... [:D])

[UWone77]

James is always hating on the ELCAN !

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[Dstrbdmedic167]

Touché

[Pyzik]

That moment when someone's back up iron sights are more than your optic. 😅

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[titanse05]

That moment when someone's back up iron sights are more than your optic. 😅

Sent from my SM-N910V using TapatalkWhich reminds me.... we need a group buy on those Rainier Arms BUIS. I'm in for two sets, one for each new SBR.

[UWone77]

Which reminds me.... we need a group buy on those Rainier Arms BUIS. I'm in for two sets, one for each new SBR.

I'll be up there on Friday. If you want to start a thread to gauge interest I'll see what they can do.

[titanse05]

I'll be up there on Friday. If you want to start a thread to gauge interest I'll see what they can do.Done. Rainier Arms Back Up Iron Sights Group Buy (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?8908-Rainier-Arms-Back-Up-Iron-Sights-Group-Buy&p=126799#post126799)

[Pyzik]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1629/24781862089_b440186e65_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DKTwdi)
Parallax TiN BCG (https://flic.kr/p/DKTwdi) by Damage Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/damagephotos/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1621/24564838993_e291aac213_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DqHdNM)
Bling (https://flic.kr/p/DqHdNM) by Damage Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/damagephotos/), on Flickr

[Josh S.]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1629/24781862089_b440186e65_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DKTwdi)
Parallax TiN BCG (https://flic.kr/p/DKTwdi) by Damage Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/damagephotos/), on Flickr

Oh. Em. Gee. [wow]

Pyzik, can I get permission to slightly copy that sexyass build?

[Pyzik]

Oh. Em. Gee. [wow]

Pyzik, can I get permission to slightly copy that sexyass build?
Haha, it's a free country!

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[velocity2006]

Super jealous I didn't have the funds to get in on these. Wanted to meet up with SMOS but have not got a response, they are like 20 minutes from my house.

[Deadwing]

Super jealous I didn't have the funds to get in on these. Wanted to meet up with SMOS but have not got a response, they are like 20 minutes from my house.

Responding to emails doesn't seem to be one of their strong suits.

[Deadwing]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1629/24781862089_b440186e65_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DKTwdi)
Parallax TiN BCG (https://flic.kr/p/DKTwdi) by Damage Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/damagephotos/), on Flickr

Looking good, Pyzik!

[velocity2006]

Responding to emails doesn't seem to be one of their strong suits.

Agreed, unfortunately. I realize they may be busy, but trying to find shooting buddies in this area has been ridiculously hard especially when there are like 4 premier AR makers within 30 minutes of my house. Literally wanted like 20 minutes to take some pictures of their rifles, free marketing for them, oh well...

[fledge]

FYI: I finally got around to filing a form 1 yesterday. The GFY-15 isn't listed on the ATF site yet. They said to expect delays because of it. I submitted an additional picture of the receiver to speed the process.

[Deadwing]

FYI: I finally got around to filing a form 1 yesterday. The GFY-15 isn't listed on the ATF site yet. They said to expect delays because of it. I submitted an additional picture of the receiver to speed the process.

Was this an eForm or paper form? From what i've read, the delays were fairly minimal with eForms when the manufacturer or model wasn't listed as long as a photo was submitted with your application package. Apparently the application would show in a problem status until the photos were reviewed (usually within 48 hours), then it would show submitted/in process. This was a while ago that i read this, and obviously time lines are longer now with 41F. But hopefully this won't add too much delay to your form getting approved.

[fledge]

Eform. I figure adding the pic will let them know it's real, followed by a phone call to SMOS (I hope they don't email SMOS cause I may never get approved! Ha!). I don't expect much delay beyond the current craziness. I submitted a different listed lower at the same time and can compare approval speed times.

[Deadwing]

Eform. I figure adding the pic will let them know it's real, followed by a phone call to SMOS (I hope they don't email SMOS cause I may never get approved! Ha!). I don't expect much delay beyond the current craziness. I submitted a different listed lower at the same time and can compare approval speed times.

LOL! Yeah, if they email SMOS you're doomed. [BD] Seriously though, you should be good to go with the photo you submitted. If i recall correctly, someone had submitted a Form 1 on an 80% lower they'd finished along with a photo and it was only 48 hours or something before their application was in process. Post your progress in the "Transfer Times" (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?5793-Transfer-Times) thread if you get the chance. It's a pretty good resource for keeping track of how long things are taking.

[UWone77]

So far I've decided on a Geissele SSA trigger, Forward Controls ABC, and a 14.5" Rainier CHF Barrel, and that's about it so far.


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[Pyzik]

So far I've decided on a Geissele SSA trigger, Forward Controls ABC, and a 14.5" Rainier CHF Barrel, and that's about it so far.


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Sounds like awesomeness, as always from you.

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[jataylor]

My pictures aren't near as fancy, but....683
-Geissele G2S
-Forward Controls ABC/R
-MOE grip
-BCM RE w/H buffer
-BAD safety
-SOPMOD Bravo
-Sionics LPK
-BCM Mod4 GF handle
-SLR gas block
-ToolCraft 1B1B6 BCG
-Daniel Defense LW 16" barrel
-AAC non-mount Blackout
-Spikes melonited gas tube

JT

[Pyzik]

My pictures aren't near as fancy, but....683
Geissele G2S, MOE grip, BCM RE w/H buffer, BAD-ASS, SOPMOD Bravo. Still waiting on a few small parts.

JT
Coming along good, looks like solid components so far.

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[EO3]

So far I've decided on a Geissele SSA trigger, Forward Controls ABC, and a 14.5" Rainier CHF Barrel, and that's about it so far.


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14.5" barrels go perfectly with these rails.

[Jinxy]

I love the SMOS receiver set...

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a439/Jinxy81/CEFE8479-4A3A-4FDE-B1A9-5AD94F0DF767_zpsa1it9vbq.jpg
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a439/Jinxy81/9FF963E6-9765-4F9F-9D9F-82E41C655810_zps1okmtcdk.jpg

-SMOS GFY receiver set and rail
-16" MW CHF Rainier Arms Mountain Barrel
-Lantac Gas Block
-SilencerCo ASR Brake
-Gemtech Suppressed Carrier/C158 Bolt
-Griffin Snach charging handle
-CMC 3.5 Flat Trigger
-CMT/Stag LPK
-Magpul MOE Grip and MOE SL Stock
-BAD Ambi Safety
-Leupold Mark AR 1.5-4 Fire Dot
-ADM Recon Mount

[Dstrbdmedic167]

I love the SMOS receiver set...

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a439/Jinxy81/CEFE8479-4A3A-4FDE-B1A9-5AD94F0DF767_zpsa1it9vbq.jpg
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a439/Jinxy81/9FF963E6-9765-4F9F-9D9F-82E41C655810_zps1okmtcdk.jpg

-SMOS GFY receiver set and rail
-16" MW CHF Rainier Arms Mountain Barrel
-Lantac Gas Block
-SilencerCo ASR Brake
-Gemtech Suppressed Carrier/C158 Bolt
-Griffin Snach charging handle
-CMC 3.5 Flat Trigger
-CMT/Stag LPK
-Magpul MOE Grip and MOE SL Stock
-BAD Ambi Safety
-Leupold Mark AR 1.5-4 Fire Dot
-ADM Recon Mount

Excellent build and parts list. Very nice!!

I need to build mine up.. But cerakote...


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[Pyzik]

I love the SMOS receiver set...

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a439/Jinxy81/CEFE8479-4A3A-4FDE-B1A9-5AD94F0DF767_zpsa1it9vbq.jpg
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a439/Jinxy81/9FF963E6-9765-4F9F-9D9F-82E41C655810_zps1okmtcdk.jpg

-SMOS GFY receiver set and rail
-16" MW CHF Rainier Arms Mountain Barrel
-Lantac Gas Block
-SilencerCo ASR Brake
-Gemtech Suppressed Carrier/C158 Bolt
-Griffin Snach charging handle
-CMC 3.5 Flat Trigger
-CMT/Stag LPK
-Magpul MOE Grip and MOE SL Stock
-BAD Ambi Safety
-Leupold Mark AR 1.5-4 Fire Dot
-ADM Recon Mount
Wow, very nice!

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[mustangfreek]

What they said, nice build, I like.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

We just need to make this the official SMOS pic thread lol...

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[Pyzik]

You and your macro....
Dude, that is sharp.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

You and your macro....
Dude, that is sharp.

Thanks man.


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[Jinxy]

We just need to make this the official SMOS pic thread lol...

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Sick photo...I started following you on IG...great pics!

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Sick photo...I started following you on IG...great pics!

Thanks. I appreciate it!


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[Dstrbdmedic167]

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[alamo5000]

Sick photo...I started following you on IG...great pics!

You're going to give him a fat head! LOL! J/K

BTW ytour build looks great Jinxy

[Brahmzy]

So when's the other SMOS rail lengths coming out??

[UWone77]

So when's the other SMOS rail lengths coming out??

Should be soon. Supposed to have a 12 and 9 sample in my hands next week.

[JSchell1309]

Do you think SMOS would be interested in doing another full set discount with the new rail? Kicking myself for missing the previous deal. Even worse seeing these in full builds with excellent pictures.

[UWone77]

Do you think SMOS would be interested in doing another full set discount with the new rail? Kicking myself for missing the previous deal. Even worse seeing these in full builds with excellent pictures.

email: chris@smosarms.com and tell him you saw this on WEVO. I think he can still take care of you, but double check!

[JSchell1309]

email: chris@smosarms.com and tell him you saw this on WEVO. I think he can still take care of you, but double check!

I shot him an email on the 21st a few days ago. I read through every page here and the other SMOS thread waiting for the ability to reply since I just joined the forum. I have a build in progress but am holding off on upper lower and handguard just to see if I can get in on this deal. It would be perfect.

I noticed a few people said SMOS isn't the best at replying to email. Which is fine, means they are busy with design and testing new products. Wanted to post in here as well to see if they would do another sale.

Excited to see the shorter length handguards. Also love this forum, been lurking a while, this thread finally gave me a reason to join.

[UWone77]

I shot him an email on the 21st a few days ago. I read through every page here and the other SMOS thread waiting for the ability to reply since I just joined the forum. I have a build in progress but am holding off on upper lower and handguard just to see if I can get in on this deal. It would be perfect.

I noticed a few people said SMOS isn't the best at replying to email. Which is fine, means they are busy with design and testing new products. Wanted to post in here as well to see if they would do another sale.

Excited to see the shorter length handguards. Also love this forum, been lurking a while, this thread finally gave me a reason to join.

I'll shoot Chris a message tomorrow and see what's up. Yeah, they aren't always the best to respond, as they don't really have a full CS team to handle retail orders as they've OEM'ed for so long.

[JSchell1309]

email: chris@smosarms.com and tell him you saw this on WEVO. I think he can still take care of you, but double check!


I'll shoot Chris a message tomorrow and see what's up. Yeah, they aren't always the best to respond, as they don't really have a full CS team to handle retail orders as they've OEM'ed for so long.

Completely understand being swamped at work. If you would do that for me I would greatly appreciate it! Really hoping this works out.

[Brahmzy]

Should be soon. Supposed to have a 12 and 9 sample in my hands next week.

Nice. Is the 12 a true 12.0 and the 9 a true 9.0?

[fledge]

Last mentioned the 12 is a true 12 and the 9 is 9.1.

[Brahmzy]

Last mentioned the 12 is a true 12 and the 9 is 9.1.

Thanks. I see 2 SMOS handguards in my near future. Wish they had aluminum barrel nuts!

[UWone77]

Completely understand being swamped at work. If you would do that for me I would greatly appreciate it! Really hoping this works out.

I didn't get a clear answer on the promo price, he just mentioned the uppers and lowers are on the website. I'm thinking you'll have to wait for a personal response from him. Never hurts to hit him up again.

In other related news, the 12" Rails are back from anodizing, should be up on the site Monday.

[DutyUse]

Should be soon. Supposed to have a 12 and 9 sample in my hands next week.

I'd love to try a 9 for a 10.5 build I've got brewing

[JSchell1309]

I didn't get a clear answer on the promo price, he just mentioned the uppers and lowers are on the website. I'm thinking you'll have to wait for a personal response from him. Never hurts to hit him up again.

In other related news, the 12" Rails are back from anodizing, should be up on the site Monday.

Thanks for trying. Just shot him another email and mentioned you reached out to him as well. Really hoping it's a go as this would be prefect for the build I have going. Had a cheap pair of billets on backordered and would cancel those without second though for this set on sale.

[JSchell1309]

Best news of the year. Chris got back to me and was willing to still offer the WEVO discount. Just placed order for GFY build set with the new 12" rail swapped in place of the 13". So damn pumped for this build now. Huge thumbs up to both Chris and Roby for the excellent customer service!

[EO3]

Best news of the year. Chris got back to me and was willing to still offer the WEVO discount. Just placed order for GFY build set with the new 12" rail swapped in place of the 13". So damn pumped for this build now. Huge thumbs up to both Chris and Roby for the excellent customer service!

Awesome news! Chris is a great guy. It sucks that they don't have the capability for more/better customer service. Maybe I ought to apply to start answering phones and emails for them [BD]

[The Truth]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the understanding about the email response time. I have been working my butt off to get orders out and parts in stock. I am happy to continue offering WEVO members the same deal and now with new length rails. The 12 inch rails are here and will be on the site soon. 9 inch rails will be in late next week. I will try and get through emails faster in the future and try and update everybody through UWone77. All WEVO members that want parts at this time are going to need to email chris@smosarms.com or call the office directly.

Chris
SMOS ARMS

[JSchell1309]

Excellent customer service. I understand being swamped at work. Couldn't be happier with the customer service once you shot me back an email. Roby got my order all set and contacted my FFL without me having to do it. Chris already has my order boxed up within hours.

Will definitely be throwing SMOS name out there for anyone looking for quality Billet parts at a great price. Can't wait to try out the 12" hand guard.

[EO3]

Chris just sent me a pic of my set. I'm a sucker for FDE!
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[jataylor]

And after a few beers..... An upper was born! Had to take my nut to dam near 70 for it to be timed. That ok?? Dont look at my messy bench.708

JT

[jataylor]

One more pic.709

JT

[EO3]

One more pic.709

JT
Lookin' good! Any plans for an optic yet?

[jataylor]

Lookin' good! Any plans for an optic yet?
Thanks! Haven't really decided on optics yet. All the parts have drained my gun fund. May go Vortex SparcII or Primary MD-ADS. Is my barrel nut ok at 70 ft-lbs?

JT

[EO3]

Thanks! Haven't really decided on optics yet. All the parts have drained my gun fund. May go Vortex SparcII or Primary MD-ADS. Is my barrel nut ok at 70 ft-lbs?

JT

No promises, but I believe anywhere between 35-80ft lbs is alright.

[Brahmzy]

70lbs is fine...

[EO3]

Thanks! Haven't really decided on optics yet. All the parts have drained my gun fund. May go Vortex SparcII or Primary MD-ADS. Is my barrel nut ok at 70 ft-lbs?

JT

Chris confirmed 35-80 is good to go.

[jataylor]

Good deal. Thats where she's staying then.

JT

[Pyzik]

Chris just sent me a pic of my set. I'm a sucker for FDE!
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Drool.

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[fledge]

They can cerakote?? Wish I'd known.

[EO3]

They can cerakote?? Wish I'd known.

Yes sir! I actually had no idea either, I just happened to ask.

[JSchell1309]

Yes sir! I actually had no idea either, I just happened to ask.

You need to finish that FDE build fast, that is going to look great. I was thinking of cerakoting tungsten some time down the line.

[mustangfreek]

That's killer customer service and is awesome to still see now a days..hats off.. gotta be a busy mofo, but making customers happy and coming back is what it's about and worth..

Anyways... sick looking fde set there.......

[EO3]

Thanks! I've gone back and forth a bit, but I think I finally have all my parts lined up for the build.

Lower:
Geissele SD-C
BAD-ASS standard/short
ABC/R
BAD-EPS
K2+ Grip FDE
SL stock FDE

Upper:
BA Hanson 16" .223 Wylde Premium, .625 Lo pro
Lantac E-BCG
AXTS raptor/Rainier Avalanche (thoughts?)
BE 249 Saker/ Griffin M4SD Flash Comp/ VG6 Epsilon (thoughts?)
V7 LW Dust Cover

Think I got everything....

[fledge]

Lots of good stuff. I'd use whatever comp works with your cans. If you like the VG6 cage option, check out SLR's titanium comp that works with the cage. Keeps it light out front with option to reduce concussion on the range.

[jataylor]

I redid the torquing. Took it to 30 and back off a few times, kept crows foot at 90 degree angle to torque wrench, reapply Aeroshell. Got it all lined up at 60 ftlb this time.

JT

[JSchell1309]

Any body put the stripped GFY set on a scale yet? Interested in what they all weigh separately.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Any body put the stripped GFY set on a scale yet? Interested in what they all weigh separately.

I'll measure when I get home. Still haven't built mine up yet...


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[fledge]

I know the lower is 10oz.

[Jinxy]

Chris just sent me a pic of my set. I'm a sucker for FDE!
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DROOOL!!!! Good looking set...damnit...I know whats going to happen from this thread

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Upper and lower are 18.4oz


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[Deadwing]

I've decided to use the barrel and BCG i had slated for use in my SMOS build in a different project. So, i'm taking this opportunity to switch things up a bit and revamp my parts list for the SMOS, to include changing out parts on the lower, which has been finished for a couple weeks now. This should be fun.

[EO3]

Anyone have suggestions for barrels in the $250 range similar to the BA 16" .223 Wylde Stainless lightweight profile that I mentioned earlier? Just trying to keep my options open and see what other people have liked for lighter 16" barrels. Mid-length as well!

[fledge]

Faxon is the other quality/value barrel maker I'd suggest. Several profiles to choose from.

[JSchell1309]

Just finalized the last order for the build, so much for slowly building over a few months. I got most stuff on the list on sale and am happy with how this turned out for the price.

Upper:
SMOS GFY Upper and 12" handguard
ARP 16" .223 Wylde Scout Barrel
ARP Milspec Carp 158 BCG
AXTS Raptor charge handle
BCM Low Profile Gas Block
Spikes Tactical Melonite mid length gas tube
Midwest Ind. flash hider
Strike Industries dust cover

Lower:
SMOS GFY Lower
PSA Magpul CTR lower mil spec parts kit
LaRue Meticulously Built Trigger (6-8 week lead time)
Strike Industries Takedown pins

Accessories
Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 Scope
Aero Precision ultralight SPR mount
10x Magpul Gen 3 Window 30rd mags
Magpul MBUIS Pro front and rear irons

Now just the waiting game.

[DeviantLogic]

Anyone have suggestions for barrels in the $250 range similar to the BA 16" .223 Wylde Stainless lightweight profile that I mentioned earlier? Just trying to keep my options open and see what other people have liked for lighter 16" barrels. Mid-length as well!

Might want to check out MicroMOA

[jataylor]

Pinned my gas block earlier. Its a coiled stainless roll pin and not a plain split roll pin.

JT

[fledge]

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/Mobile%20Uploads/3AE59C10-FABB-484C-8E63-F8EA2B7009D1_zpsanakudbj.png (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3AE59C10-FABB-484C-8E63-F8EA2B7009D1_zpsanakudbj.png.html)

[JSchell1309]

My pictures aren't near as fancy, but....
-Geissele G2S
-Forward Controls ABC/R
-MOE grip
-BCM RE w/H buffer
-BAD safety
-SOPMOD Bravo
-Sionics LPK
-BCM Mod4 GF handle
-SLR gas block
-ToolCraft 1B1B6 BCG
-Daniel Defense LW 16" barrel
-AAC non-mount Blackout
-Spikes melonited gas tube

JT

Any pictures of the other side with the ABC-r installed? I am debating between that or the BAD lever. Not a big fan of the lever as far as looks but have never fired an AR with one installed. Leaning more towards the larger paddle on the ABC-r

[jataylor]

Any pictures of the other side with the ABC-r installed? I am debating between that or the BAD lever. Not a big fan of the lever as far as looks but have never fired an AR with one installed. Leaning more towards the larger paddle on the ABC-r

The ABC-R just fits the lines of the upper so well. Its unobtrusive and awesome!742743

JT

[JSchell1309]

Thanks for the fast reply. I think that made up my mind. If I'm going to dick around with the roll pin I rather just do it one time and not have to mess with it again. Which brings up a good thought, wonder how hard it would be for SMOS to start tapping the bolt catch hole for a set screw rather than the roll pin. This is a nice feature on some other billet lowers.

[jataylor]

Thanks for the fast reply. I think that made up my mind. If I'm going to dick around with the roll pin I rather just do it one time and not have to mess with it again. Which brings up a good thought, wonder how hard it would be for SMOS to start tapping the bolt catch hole for a set screw rather than the roll pin. This is a nice feature on some other billet lowers.
No problem. That roll pin was a bitch. I did leave a few tiny marks when I installed. Hard to see but im still pissed.

JT

[Deadwing]

Thanks for the fast reply. I think that made up my mind. If I'm going to dick around with the roll pin I rather just do it one time and not have to mess with it again. Which brings up a good thought, wonder how hard it would be for SMOS to start tapping the bolt catch hole for a set screw rather than the roll pin. This is a nice feature on some other billet lowers.

Personally, i prefer the standard roll pin. One less thing to worry about falling off anf getting lost or stripping out. And if by chance a roll pin gets damaged or lost, it's way easier and cheaper to get a replace ment part than some proprietary set screw.


No problem. That roll pin was a bitch. I did leave a few tiny marks when I installed. Hard to see but im still pissed.

JT

I think the pin hole was slightly undersize. It definitely took a bit of extra persuasion to get the roll pin started. You should be able to cover the scratched with some Aluminum Black (http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/blackening-browning/aluminum-black-prod4941.aspx) and have it looking good as new. I've used that stuff with very good results.

[jataylor]

Personally, i prefer the standard roll pin. One less thing to worry about falling off anf getting lost or stripping out. And if by chance a roll pin gets damaged or lost, it's way easier and cheaper to get a replace ment part than some proprietary set screw.



I think the pin hole was slightly undersize. It definitely took a bit of extra persuasion to get the roll pin started. You should be able to cover the scratched with some Aluminum Black (http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/blackening-browning/aluminum-black-prod4941.aspx) and have it looking good as new. I've used that stuff with very good results.
I do need to get some of that stuff. My little bluing pen only helped so much.

JT

[velocity2006]

Black sharpie works well for matching AR anodizing.

[Duffy]

From its very first iteration (when I was developing it at Battle Arms), both paddles were already angled, though only at 5 degree, and the upper paddle was to take on a different shape than the ping pong paddle found on a factory bolt catch. These two features at once rendered the EBC (enhanced bolt catch), as it was called then, incompatible with any known battery assist device type apparatus without modification to either.

When I left BAD, the bolt catch project went with me. From there, the shape of the upper paddle was slightly changed, and has a 10 degree (lower 50%) and 15 degree (upper 50%) angle, forming a slight bend in the middle.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/angles_zpsuutfo50d.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Duffypoo/media/angles_zpsuutfo50d.jpg.html)

BAD type devices work on many ARs, but can have problems on some. A bit of tolerance stacking exists in many ARs, it's just most instances don't manifest into a "failure to xxx" symptom. BAD type devices interject an outside element/variable to the interaction between the bolt catch, bolt catch spring, and magazine. An L shaped lever gets bolted onto something that was never designed to accept it, it's completely predictable it could cause issues on some setups.

For the reason mentioned above, incompatibility with BAD type devices is an acceptable trade off for the ABC/R's larger and angled paddle. There were suggestions to make the ABC/R's upper paddle into the same shape as the factory ping pong paddle, so BAD type levers can be installed, and the smaller paddle would also be universally compatible with all kinds of thicker billet uppers.

ABC/R, along with everything we make, is based on and following TDP specs (other than the areas where we made improvements), and made for TDP spec upper or lower receivers. ABC/R's twice-angled paddle clears most thick billet uppers. Deleting the ABC/R's upper paddle features to accommodate an add-on device (BAD type levers) that causes problems on some ARs, and out of spec billet receivers (sorry, if it's not TDP specs, it's out of spec on the outside), is the tail wagging the dog, these two reasons would make the ABC/R a ho hum, another run of the mill bolt catch but one that costs 3 times as much as a factory unit [BD]

ETA: many thicker billet receivers, like the one pictured above, have generous relief for oversized bolt catch paddles, or BAD type levers. ABC/R in many instances looks as though it was designed for these uppers :P

[besthaticouldo]

Just finalized the last order for the build, so much for slowly building over a few months. I got most stuff on the list on sale and am happy with how this turned out for the price.

Upper:
SMOS GFY Upper and 12" handguard
ARP 16" .223 Wylde Scout Barrel
ARP Milspec Carp 158 BCG
AXTS Raptor charge handle
BCM Low Profile Gas Block
Spikes Tactical Melonite mid length gas tube
Midwest Ind. flash hider
Strike Industries dust cover

Lower:
SMOS GFY Lower
PSA Magpul CTR lower mil spec parts kit
LaRue Meticulously Built Trigger (6-8 week lead time)
Strike Industries Takedown pins

Accessories
Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 Scope
Aero Precision ultralight SPR mount
10x Magpul Gen 3 Window 30rd mags
Magpul MBUIS Pro front and rear irons

Now just the waiting game.

This build is definitely going to suck, can't wait to miss all the targets with it.

[DutyUse]

I would much prefer the ABC/R over any bad lever. Personal preference but I'm not really a fan of bolt assist devices as they tend to get in my way

[jataylor]

I would much prefer the ABC/R over any bad lever. Personal preference but I'm not really a fan of bolt assist devices as they tend to get in my way

Agree. Its too much. I like it simple. I can smack the ABC/R so easy that the BAD is moot.

JT

[Deadwing]

I would much prefer the ABC/R over any bad lever. Personal preference but I'm not really a fan of bolt assist devices as they tend to get in my way

I'd much prefer the milspec bolt catch to a BAD lever. I'm not a fan of them.

[JSchell1309]

ETA: many thicker billet receivers, like the one pictured above, have generous relief for oversized bolt catch paddles, or BAD type levers. ABC/R in many instances looks as though it was designed for these uppers :P

Main reason I wanted to see it mounted and make sure it fit well. I had done some research on your bolt release and think it's the cleanest upgrade out there. I wanted to make a decision so I don't dick around with roll pins more than once. Those pictures and your whole design description did it for me. ETA to my door end of this week.


This build is definitely going to suck, can't wait to miss all the targets with it.

Great to see you bring this uplifting spirit into yet another forum haha. I almost missed NASIOC for a second... almost. You ever make up your mind if you are ordering the SMY kit?

[besthaticouldo]

Main reason I wanted to see it mounted and make sure it fit well. I had done some research on your bolt release and think it's the cleanest upgrade out there. I wanted to make a decision so I don't dick around with roll pins more than once. Those pictures and your whole design description did it for me. ETA to my door end of this week.

Great to see you bring this uplifting spirit into yet another forum haha. I almost missed NASIOC for a second... almost. You ever make up your mind if you are ordering the SMY kit?

Almost...

Also, yea as soon as I get the refund for the CMT lower I'm going to order it.

[Josh S.]

My cousin got his upper back from the gunsmith today and the lower should be done in a week or two. The upper consists of a Lantac E-BCG, Griffin SNACH, and Noveske 20" barrel. He hasn't decided on glass yet, but it will most likely be either a Nightforce, USO, or S&B.

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[Josh S.]

Here it is on a DPMS lower. The SMOS lower will also have a PRS stock so this is basically what it'll look like.

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[JSchell1309]

Looks like the lower is threaded to accept a small set screw to tighten the slop between the upper and lower. Does anyone know what the thread pitch for this hole is?

http://i.imgur.com/lRImgfP.jpg

[jataylor]

Finally put on my port door, lubed up the bolt/gun and slapped it together. Ordered a set of the MBUS Pro sights. Then time to shoot!!!809810

JT

[SINNER]

Looks like the lower is threaded to accept a small set screw to tighten the slop between the upper and lower. Does anyone know what the thread pitch for this hole is?

http://i.imgur.com/lRImgfP.jpg

Should be 1/4-28 thread. The good ones are nylon tipped. Can't believe they drilled and tapped the hole but didn't include a tensioning screw.

[JSchell1309]

Should be 1/4-28 thread. The good ones are nylon tipped. Can't believe they drilled and tapped the hole but didn't include a tensioning screw.

Fastenal Part No. SKU: 0134938 and SKU: 0154138

I'll order a couple and give it a shot.

[besthaticouldo]

Fastenal Part No. SKU: 0134938 and SKU: 0154138

I'll order a couple and give it a shot.

Order me one, thanks!

[JSchell1309]

Order me one, thanks!

Already got you big dog. Ordered two of each, figured you didn't want to mess with $9 shipping just for one.

[besthaticouldo]

Already got you big dog. Ordered two of each, figured you didn't want to mess with $9 shipping just for one.

Did you check grainger? There's one by my house, they may have had it as well...

[JSchell1309]

Grainger is more Lab supplies. I opted for a 10 pack of stainless ones from McMaster after Fastenal couldn't put the order through without error. Ordered product 90291A305 for $7.50 for 10 of them.

Got a chance to sight in both the irons and the Vortex Strike Eagle using bulk Wolf Gold. Bottom middle target you can see the 3 3rd groups I shot to dial the 0 in at 50 yards. Left and right were both 3 rounds to test 0 and top middle is a quick 5 shot before range called cease fire. Extremely happy with the results especially from the stock mil-spec trigger. Larue MBT should only make this better. A few pics of the finished build, don't have anything besides cell phone pics yet.

http://i.imgur.com/wkx16Dy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mlAUB8Zh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QOVCcbAh.jpg

[besthaticouldo]

Nice dude, well done.

Looks great too.

[EO3]

Anyone here have the 12" GFY MLOK rail from SMOS yet? I just wanted to know if it was a true 12" or not. Thanks!

[Brahmzy]

Anyone here have the 12" GFY MLOK rail from SMOS yet? I just wanted to know if it was a true 12" or not. Thanks!
My 12 gets delivered today. I'll post exact weight and length etc. here.

[EO3]

My 12 gets delivered today. I'll post exact weight and length etc. here.

Perfect! Thank you!

[UWone77]

Anyone here have the 12" GFY MLOK rail from SMOS yet? I just wanted to know if it was a true 12" or not. Thanks!

Haven't touched a 12" yet, but Chris assures me it's exactly 12"

[JSchell1309]

Anyone here have the 12" GFY MLOK rail from SMOS yet? I just wanted to know if it was a true 12" or not. Thanks!

Pictures I posted above are of the 12". I have it weighed but can get length too when I get home.

12" handguard weight is 10.15 oz with barrel nut and hardware and is exactly 12" long.

http://i.imgur.com/UlW3VFf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NH3GRE1.jpg

[Brahmzy]

SMOS 12.0 comes in at exaclt 10.1oz, and exactly 12.000" long, just as advertised.

This thing's PURTY. The anodizing is BLACK as opposed to my SMOS 308 rail which is kinda more on the grey side...

[EO3]

Thanks, guys! Just what I needed!

[Brahmzy]

I REALLY wish SMOS made a 10.5" GFY rail.. I'm going to have to get an EraThr3 10.5, which SMOS makes, but it's overpriced and I don't want the open top.

[EO3]

I think I'm going to try out the 12" rail on a 13.7" upper. Jumping on the cool guy wagon here [BD] But really, I've wanted to go as short as possible without SBR'ing, and a 13.7" with a BE 249F or 249S pinned/welded makes that possible. Not really a fan of the KX3/5 on a 13.7 just because it's awfully heavy to have out front. Makes it kind of awkward to maneuver to me.

[fledge]

The 9" GFY rail was supposed to be delivered last Tuesday but UPS lost it. SMOS shipped out a replacement Friday and it arrived today! How's that for service!

The 9" is actually called the SMR556 9.188 SR. The actual length is engraved on the rail itself, just like on the 12". I took a measurement for those of you confused by decimals.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/AB60123E-CADF-489A-9B0A-11A4430CD35E_zpsd7mwviej.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/AB60123E-CADF-489A-9B0A-11A4430CD35E_zpsd7mwviej.jpg.html)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/662B9EA4-FD07-4EE0-BAAC-8B9CCF6BF4F1_zpsyhfulwst.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/662B9EA4-FD07-4EE0-BAAC-8B9CCF6BF4F1_zpsyhfulwst.jpg.html)

The weight of the rail, nut and hardware comes to 8.64oz.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/D4338FCE-6799-4CA9-B47D-CA18DDCEF574_zpsafzga79r.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/D4338FCE-6799-4CA9-B47D-CA18DDCEF574_zpsafzga79r.jpg.html)

Unlike the 13.6" GFY rail that shipped previously, this one came with an anti-rotation pin.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/CF107D7A-E222-4BF7-8428-A75371F1CFA0_zpsmsgalfjt.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/CF107D7A-E222-4BF7-8428-A75371F1CFA0_zpsmsgalfjt.jpg.html)

For those who complained on the loose fit of the rail over the barrel nut on the GFY rail, this one's tolerance are very snug. Same barrel nut but sans the Erath3 logo. I hope they release a lightweight nut for this.

I'm mounting to a 10.3 Ballistic Advantage barrel. Here's the gap on the end with and without muzzle device. The barrel nut is not fully torqued yet as I'm not ready to finish this upper.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/EFA652D3-E345-4531-9B00-C861EA7C1DFE_zpsx981xffq.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/EFA652D3-E345-4531-9B00-C861EA7C1DFE_zpsx981xffq.jpg.html)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/C34DC65C-0A00-418D-A9AC-01AC3B5966B2_zpsplppy5nk.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/C34DC65C-0A00-418D-A9AC-01AC3B5966B2_zpsplppy5nk.jpg.html)

And a full body shot. Screws are not inserted because nut is not timed.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/9FA7DC28-BC98-4D0B-846B-AD561D3CA5F1_zpsig5ct9el.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/9FA7DC28-BC98-4D0B-846B-AD561D3CA5F1_zpsig5ct9el.jpg.html)

I'm very pleased. I've had this part of the project on hold since last fall when Chris expected the shorter rails available by Christmas. Glad to have it all in hand now. More details on the project in the coming months.

[Brahmzy]

Ok everybody, what size crows foot wrench do I need on the 12.0?

1 3/16?

My 1 1/16s too small and my 1 5/16s too big!

And my 12.0 didn't come with the AR pin. I'm having to steal one from an NSR. How was the AR pin packaged? Ziplock somewhere in the tube?

[EO3]

Ok everybody, what size crows foot wrench do I need on the 12.0?

1 3/16?

My 1 1/16s too small and my 1 5/16s too big!

And my 12.0 didn't come with the AR pin. I'm having to steal one from an NSR. How was the AR pin packaged? Ziplock somewhere in the tube?

Yes! It is a 1 3/16 crows foot!

[fledge]

How was the AR pin packaged? Ziplock somewhere in the tube?

Small red ziplock tucked in the rail.

[JSchell1309]

Yes! It is a 1 3/16 crows foot!

A 30mm will also work as there is only a .006" difference between the two. I ordered one off amazon for ~$10 as I couldn't find any local retailer that had a 30mm or 1 3/16 by itself or in a set.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002YK9QB8/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Don't forget when you are running a crowd foot on a torque wrench you want it 90 degrees to the handle. If you have it in line you change the lever arm of the wrench and will not get an accurate torque value. Realistically between 30-80 ft-lbs it may not make a difference, always best to be accurate though.

[Brahmzy]

Small red ziplock tucked in the rail.

Ah, nope, didn't get one with my 12.0. Similar to how Noveske shanked us on the first few thousand NSRs that shipped. I'll call SMOS and get one on the way. Thanks.

[EO3]

A 30mm will also work as there is only a .006" difference between the two. I ordered one off amazon for ~$10 as I couldn't find any local retailer that had a 30mm or 1 3/16 by itself or in a set.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002YK9QB8/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Don't forget when you are running a crowd foot on a torque wrench you want it 90 degrees to the handle. If you have it in line you change the lever arm of the wrench and will not get an accurate torque value. Realistically between 30-80 ft-lbs it may not make a difference, always best to be accurate though.

I actually couldn't find one at my hardware store either, so I got one off Amazon as well. My 1 3/16th crows foot was $11 shipped with Amazon Prime. Good to know 30mm will also do the job!

[SINNER]

A 30mm will also work as there is only a .006" difference between the two. I ordered one off amazon for ~$10 as I couldn't find any local retailer that had a 30mm or 1 3/16 by itself or in a set.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002YK9QB8/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Don't forget when you are running a crowd foot on a torque wrench you want it 90 degrees to the handle. If you have it in line you change the lever arm of the wrench and will not get an accurate torque value. Realistically between 30-80 ft-lbs it may not make a difference, always best to be accurate though.

With a 3" extension due to the centerline length of a 30mm crows foot, actual torque with the wrench set at 50lbs is 43 ft lbs. I have a app on my phone for torque corrections. Lol It certainly makes a difference but in this application not enough to matter.

[JSchell1309]

Looks like the lower is threaded to accept a small set screw to tighten the slop between the upper and lower. Does anyone know what the thread pitch for this hole is?


Well I got the 1/4"-28 nylon tipped set screws in and they did not thread down into the hole. Diameter is correct but I believe they are 1/4"-20 Coarse thread and not the fine thread like the grip screw. Strange they would tool up another tap to thread this separate hole when it is right next to a fine threaded hole.

[Naytwan]

A 30mm will also work as there is only a .006" difference between the two. I ordered one off amazon for ~$10 as I couldn't find any local retailer that had a 30mm or 1 3/16 by itself or in a set.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002YK9QB8/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Don't forget when you are running a crowd foot on a torque wrench you want it 90 degrees to the handle. If you have it in line you change the lever arm of the wrench and will not get an accurate torque value. Realistically between 30-80 ft-lbs it may not make a difference, always best to be accurate though.

I bought this guy instead.

Powerbuilt 644134 Metric 30mm Polished Combination Wrench https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QO9FRU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_nXj6wbW0GBK9D

Only issue is you can't really get a torque reading that I know of.

[JSchell1309]

I bought this guy instead.

Powerbuilt 644134 Metric 30mm Polished Combination Wrench https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QO9FRU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_nXj6wbW0GBK9D

Only issue is you can't really get a torque reading that I know of.

If you want to get real fancy you can measure from the centerline of rotation of the open end lugs to the center of the closed end wrench. With the wrench parallel to the floor, fashion a crude hanger from some wire and hang a known weight from the wrench. Multiply the lbs of weight by the length you measured converted from inches to feet. Boom... ft-lbs of torque. If you don't have weights but do have a scale you can use that same length then stand on the scale. Push down on the parallel wrench until you subtract 30-80 lbs from your weight on the scale.. boom known torque.

McGuyver would be proud.

[besthaticouldo]

If you want to get real fancy you can measure from the centerline of rotation of the open end lugs to the center of the closed end wrench. With the wrench parallel to the floor, fashion a crude hanger from some wire and hang a known weight from the wrench. Multiply the lbs of weight by the length you measured converted from inches to feet. Boom... ft-lbs of torque. If you don't have weights but do have a scale you can use that same length then stand on the scale. Push down on the parallel wrench until you subtract 30-80 lbs from your weight on the scale.. boom known torque.

McGuyver would be proud.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/034/yeahsciencebitch.PNG

[Naytwan]

If you want to get real fancy you can measure from the centerline of rotation of the open end lugs to the center of the closed end wrench. With the wrench parallel to the floor, fashion a crude hanger from some wire and hang a known weight from the wrench. Multiply the lbs of weight by the length you measured converted from inches to feet. Boom... ft-lbs of torque. If you don't have weights but do have a scale you can use that same length then stand on the scale. Push down on the parallel wrench until you subtract 30-80 lbs from your weight on the scale.. boom known torque.

McGuyver would be proud.

I wanna try the scale one.

[Pyzik]

The 9" GFY rail was supposed to be delivered last Tuesday but UPS lost it. SMOS shipped out a replacement Friday and it arrived today! How's that for service!

The 9" is actually called the SMR556 9.188 SR. The actual length is engraved on the rail itself, just like on the 12". I took a measurement for those of you confused by decimals.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/AB60123E-CADF-489A-9B0A-11A4430CD35E_zpsd7mwviej.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/AB60123E-CADF-489A-9B0A-11A4430CD35E_zpsd7mwviej.jpg.html)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/662B9EA4-FD07-4EE0-BAAC-8B9CCF6BF4F1_zpsyhfulwst.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/662B9EA4-FD07-4EE0-BAAC-8B9CCF6BF4F1_zpsyhfulwst.jpg.html)

The weight of the rail, nut and hardware comes to 8.64oz.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/D4338FCE-6799-4CA9-B47D-CA18DDCEF574_zpsafzga79r.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/D4338FCE-6799-4CA9-B47D-CA18DDCEF574_zpsafzga79r.jpg.html)

Unlike the 13.6" GFY rail that shipped previously, this one came with an anti-rotation pin.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/CF107D7A-E222-4BF7-8428-A75371F1CFA0_zpsmsgalfjt.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/CF107D7A-E222-4BF7-8428-A75371F1CFA0_zpsmsgalfjt.jpg.html)

For those who complained on the loose fit of the rail over the barrel nut on the GFY rail, this one's tolerance are very snug. Same barrel nut but sans the Erath3 logo. I hope they release a lightweight nut for this.

I'm mounting to a 10.3 Ballistic Advantage barrel. Here's the gap on the end with and without muzzle device. The barrel nut is not fully torqued yet as I'm not ready to finish this upper.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/EFA652D3-E345-4531-9B00-C861EA7C1DFE_zpsx981xffq.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/EFA652D3-E345-4531-9B00-C861EA7C1DFE_zpsx981xffq.jpg.html)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/C34DC65C-0A00-418D-A9AC-01AC3B5966B2_zpsplppy5nk.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/C34DC65C-0A00-418D-A9AC-01AC3B5966B2_zpsplppy5nk.jpg.html)

And a full body shot. Screws are not inserted because nut is not timed.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/SMOS/9FA7DC28-BC98-4D0B-846B-AD561D3CA5F1_zpsig5ct9el.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/SMOS/9FA7DC28-BC98-4D0B-846B-AD561D3CA5F1_zpsig5ct9el.jpg.html)

I'm very pleased. I've had this part of the project on hold since last fall when Chris expected the shorter rails available by Christmas. Glad to have it all in hand now. More details on the project in the coming months.
That is gonna be sexy.

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[Pyzik]

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[jataylor11]

What MLOK covers have any of you guys tried on this rail??? Doesnt look like the Magpul type 2's will fit.

[jataylor11]

Few more build pics.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160120_213942.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160216_173937.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160222_180147.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160107_180718.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160220_170042.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160220_155155.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160220_165932.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160226_183300.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160226_184325.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/Pinned.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160229_210413.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160229_210535.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160301_194334.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160312_152440.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/jtskier11/20160316_195642.jpg

[fledge]

Beauty.

[Josh S.]

My cousin picked up his completed SMOS build today! He's still waiting on his Atlas bipod and Accu-Shot Monopod but other than that it is all done! He is also going to get the barrel threaded at some point to accommodate his AAC M4-2K.

Lower
SMOS GFY
Magpul PRS w/ Sprinco Green spring
Geissele SD-E
BAD-ASS stainless safety
BAD-EPS titanium pins
Magpul MOE+
Strike Industries mag release
Forward Controls polished ABC/R-F
Forward Controls polished EMR

Upper
SMOS GFY
SMOS 13.7" MLOK
Lantac E-BCG
Griffin Armament SNACH
Noveske 20" heavy stainless barrel
American Defense-SL 34mm mount
Premier Heritage Tactical 3-15x50

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1534/26162262242_657e6184a8_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FRSr5W)Precision GFY-15 (https://flic.kr/p/FRSr5W) by NFI Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/139771595@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1645/26319214112_72141ed7aa_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G6JRpE)GFY-15 (https://flic.kr/p/G6JRpE) by NFI Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/139771595@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1580/26319237562_d37b0cb7b5_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G6JYnY)GFY-15 (https://flic.kr/p/G6JYnY) by NFI Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/139771595@N03/), on Flickr

[Naytwan]

What MLOK covers have any of you guys tried on this rail??? Doesnt look like the Magpul type 2's will fit.

I'm using Magpul covers. Type 2s. They fit fine. I also have a set of the griffin armament covers but they feel to bulky on the rail.

[Josh S.]

Do y'all know if anyone sells shorter screws for MLOK accessories? My cousin tried installing a Magpul rail section for a bipod on the rifle pictured above, and the screws hit the barrel before they're tight. Just wondering if there is anyone that sells shorter MLOK screws online, or if his best bet would be to try to find some at a hardware store. He lives over an hour away from the nearest Lowes or HD so ordering them online would be ideal.

[fledge]

This comes with two screw sizes.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/914293/magpul-m-lok-t-nut-replacement-set

[Josh S.]

Thanks fledge! That oughta do the trick.

[SINNER]

Why can't he just cut them to length?

[Josh S.]

Why can't he just cut them to length?

That is Plan A. I think he's taking a Dremel to the screws tonight.

The Atlas is on the way so hopefully I can make a trip out there soon to take pictures of it. Oh, and shoot it...I guess that'll be fun too.

[Josh S.]

By the way everyone, there is now a Table of Contents in the first post of this thread! It has a list with hyperlinks of every SMOS complete rifle or upper posted in this thread, along with the person's username and a brief description of the build. Pyzik and I will try to keep it updated as often as possible as new builds are posted.

[Pyzik]

Josh, that rifle is looking great!

I need some help here guys.
I finally have a barrel coming (thanks James). Nothing special, but a barrel nonetheless. I can upgrade later.

What I can't decide on is a Griffin Armament taper mount flash hider or their minimalist hider.

Standard
http://cdn3.volusion.com/zwlmq.eyhrp/v/vspfiles/photos/TMFS-2T.jpg
Minimalist
http://cdn3.volusion.com/zwlmq.eyhrp/v/vspfiles/photos/TMMFH-2T.jpg?1451467331


It doesn't help that there are like NO pictures of the minimalist on rifles.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

I vote minimalist...

Cell phone pic of the now completed SMOS. Maybe I can catch up Sunday on pics...

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160416/f74e417d1152cc20a05e08a3d87b8a05.jpg


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[Slippers]

The minimalist is so cute!

[jataylor]

I vote minimalist...

Cell phone pic of the now completed SMOS. Maybe I can catch up Sunday on pics...

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160416/f74e417d1152cc20a05e08a3d87b8a05.jpg


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Looks good! How are you liking that scope? Considering one for my build too.

JT

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Looks good! How are you liking that scope? Considering one for my build too.

JT

I like it. For the price point it is it's a great scope!

[jataylor]

I like it. For the price point it is it's a great scope!
Awesome! I have a PST 1-4 on my DD M4v5 and have been pretty pleased with it. Was my first Vortex optic.

JT

[Pyzik]

Should be ordering a muzzle device by the end of the week. We'll see.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1515/25904360644_9514a1cff6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ft5BVE)
DSC_0293 (https://flic.kr/p/Ft5BVE) by Damage Photos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/damagephotos/), on Flickr

[mustangfreek]

Looks good, so what muzzle device?

[Pyzik]

Looks good, so what muzzle device?
Griffin Armament Minimalist Flash Hider.

Hoping to order it in the next few days.

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[mustangfreek]

Griffin Armament Minimalist Flash Hider.

Hoping to order it in the next few days.

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I see where your going..

..as I'm assuming a can down the road for it....

[mustangfreek]

I vote minimalist...
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160416/f74e417d1152cc20a05e08a3d87b8a05.jpg
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The bazooka green or what not looks like a toss up between foliage and OD..

Nice build... But the fde and green for me....[BD]...it needs black with that green or more green.....but what do I know..I rock a PEPR ....lol....[:D]

[Pyzik]

The bazooka green or what not looks like a toss up between foliage and OD..

Nice build... But the fde and green for me....[BD]...it needs black with that green or more green.....but what do I know..I rock a PEPR ....lol....[:D]
Haha, I been saying the same thing.

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[Dstrbdmedic167]

The bazooka green or what not looks like a toss up between foliage and OD..

Nice build... But the fde and green for me....[BD]...it needs black with that green or more green.....but what do I know..I rock a PEPR ....lol....[:D]


Haha, I been saying the same thing.

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It'll grow on you... Wanting something a bit different on this one. The more I look at it the more I like it.

[EO3]

It'll grow on you... Wanting something a bit different on this one. The more I look at it the more I like it.

Call me crazy, but I think the stealth grey would look good with the bazooka green!

[n4p226r]

The green is so off that it looks great with FDE

[SINNER]

I have to agree I don't like the dark earth with that green. Black or coat the parts the same green.

[UWone77]

It'll grow on you... Wanting something a bit different on this one. The more I look at it the more I like it.

You already ruined it with the .277 barrel.

[BD]

[Dstrbdmedic167]

You already ruined it with the .277 barrel.

[BD]


http://i.imgur.com/WTDnnwE.gif

[Slippers]

Complete the furniture if you're going FDE. Get a Vortex Razor 1-6 and Geissele super precision mount. :)

[Dstrbdmedic167]

Complete the furniture if you're going FDE. Get a Vortex Razor 1-6 and Geissele super precision mount. :)

I'll just borrow your Razor and pick up a mount then.

[Pyzik]

Mini griffin flash hider came, so cute.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/68f8b92d2e492335390e9ef5ad2c1796.jpg

Gas block is the last item, waiting to arrive then done! Except optic. Dunno yet.



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[Battle Cock]

Mini griffin flash hider came, so cute.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/68f8b92d2e492335390e9ef5ad2c1796.jpg

Gas block is the last item, waiting to arrive then done! Except optic. Dunno yet.



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Dawww. It is a cute little thing. I kind like it.

[Aragorn]

Oh that's precious lol.

Does it work?

[Samsquanch]

Hi guys, I hope this is the right place to put this. I just finished a 12.5 inch pistol build using the SMOS 9 inch GFY rail. I wish I could've gone with the GFY Receiver Set but I had already bought the upper and lower. Specs listed below:

Lower:

Anderson Lower
KAK Brace w/ receiver extension
Magpul SL grip
PSA LPK
Seekins Ambi safety

Upper:

ADM 12.5 inch barrel
ADM Forged upper
BCM BCG
BCM Ambi Charging Handle
A2
SMOS GFY Rail
Magpul Pro Sights


Installation was super easy and this rail is hard to beat for 150 bucks. Haven't shot it yet but should this weekend and may give it a poor man's cerakote job (krylon) in a little bit.

[Pyzik]

Oh that's precious lol.

Does it work?
We will see, going shooting tomorrow

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[Josh S.]

She's slowly coming together! Thanks to rxer311 for the new stock! Also installed a Strike Industries mag catch and Forward Controls polished EMR.

Still need:

Magpul front MBUS
Lantac E-BCG
Lantac/CMC flat trigger
BA 14.5' stainless barrel
FCD polished ABC/R-F
AXTS raptor
Stainless BAD levers
Battlecomp 51.0


http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd443/Pigman_Jr/IMG_79601_zpslokln2bh.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/Pigman_Jr/media/IMG_79601_zpslokln2bh.jpg.html)