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scumhunter
10 March 2009, 00:51
I have a friend that is looking for her first patrol rifle. Searching around I have found that the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-T has a lot of accessories at a fair price. I haven’t had a chance to finger one of these and I would like some feedback on how they perform. If you have one of these in your arsenal give me the dirt. The DD forearm and battle sights don’t do us any good if the important stuff come up short.

austin12gauge
10 March 2009, 06:51
Unless they switched, I believe the 15T uses a Troy rail, not DD.

Not a T, but I did have a 15A and it was GTG.

The low profile gas block on the newer Ts is pinned, but the early models were attached only with set screws. Make sure it is the pinned version, which you can tell by looking.

Also, newer Ts will have M4 feed ramps and earlier ones didn't. Again, easily identified by looking.

scumhunter
10 March 2009, 07:30
You're right, it is Troy not DD. My brain was shutting down for the night. Check gas block and feed ramps......Good to know, Thank-you!
Anyone else have any opinions on the M&P rifles?

Stickman
10 March 2009, 10:02
What is she looking at for a price, and is she including accessories in that price?

Most of the guys I know buy the weapon at one time (when their wife lets them), and then they work OT to get the additional components as needed.

nc12215
10 March 2009, 12:21
scumhunter,
I have one and it has been excellent. The only issue was with some low powered Wolf ammo that short stroked. It would fire and eject the 62gr rounds but did not create enough "oomph" to get the bolt back and grab another round. It was 100% with 52gr Wolf and has been 100% with everything else.
Accuracy is good and everything they sent it with worked as advertised. Be sure to loctite the iron sight mounting bolts once you have them set. They tend to work loose if you don't.
Like Stickman said. Good deal or not depends on the purchase price.
Dave

scumhunter
11 March 2009, 02:43
I have a guy that will sell the 15-T for just under $1,200. The buyer just moved departments and took a pay cut so the extras will be added over time. This is more than she wanted to spend up front but with the TROY battle sights and foregrip it seems like a fair deal. I guess the truth is I want her to buy it with these accessories so I don't have too. She knows me too well and I won't be able to wait for her to trick it out over the course of several months. She will smile and say next month and I'll go buy it....... Damn this addiction. :mad:

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I have never used Wolf ammo in anything, I've heard too many bad things. If I had a gas piston set up I might consider it for plinking since cleaning wouldn't be as big of an issue.

adrenaline151
11 March 2009, 04:46
They're coming out with a Magpul Moe M&P, but I can't find when or how much it will be. It looks just pretty much just like the Noveske Mag-MOE did, but no Magpul lower.

SHIHAN
11 March 2009, 23:00
I had one that S&W had to buy back in the Stag days but the newer ones should be good to go. The only thing that is a downer a friend just bought a brand new one and it had a DPMS LPK.

scumhunter
12 March 2009, 07:08
I had one that S&W had to buy back in the Stag days but the newer ones should be good to go. The only thing that is a downer a friend just bought a brand new one and it had a DPMS LPK.

I had heard that when they first came out they were having funciton problems. I got to looking around on the web expecting to hear all these horror stories but you are the first to step up. I guess i'll take that as a sign that they worked the bugs out.

scumhunter
12 March 2009, 07:10
They're coming out with a Magpul Moe M&P, but I can't find when or how much it will be. It looks just pretty much just like the Noveske Mag-MOE did, but no Magpul lower.

I would like to see some pics of that!

adrenaline151
12 March 2009, 08:57
MSRP $1375.00

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=124570422

looks like it has MBUS, too.

SHIHAN
12 March 2009, 18:26
I had heard that when they first came out they were having funciton problems. I got to looking around on the web expecting to hear all these horror stories but you are the first to step up. I guess i'll take that as a sign that they worked the bugs out.

They are doing things inhouse now and are doing a decent job. I bought the S&W "just because" as there are barrels that fit me better on the market.

scumhunter
13 March 2009, 13:38
MSRP $1375.00

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=124570422

looks like it has MBUS, too.


I'm a big Magpul fan but I'm not sold on this moe handgard just yet. Clearly functional but just isn't as sexy as the rest of thier killing tools. I'm sure it will grow on me over time. Thanks for the pic!

Stickman
13 March 2009, 15:31
SH,

No one can tell you if you should like the looks to something or not. I can't even remember my original thoughts when I first saw it over a year ago. I do know that the production version is nicer, and it feels good in my hands. I think its a great layout for a KISS weapon.



http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/0O2P0789-1028-Stick.jpg


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_7925%20A%201028%20Stick.jpg

scumhunter
13 March 2009, 15:34
I take it back, your pics make everything look good. XXX Gun porn at its best.

Policetacteam
13 March 2009, 19:34
I was cautiously optimistic about the S&M M&P15T along with the rest of the M&P when it first arrived. I had three State Troopers come through the State's academy that I was guest instructing at and had an opportunity to shoot several of the original M&P .40's that had been traded for their duty Glocks. We ran into some major feeding and ejection problems with several different kinds of high quality ammo. Since our entire state patrol has since switched to S&W M&P's for both their handguns and rifles I have heard mixed feelings about both. I have spoke with several troops in my area who also work on the tac team. Most have been very satisfied with their newer versions which, hopefully, have most of the bugs worked out!
My department has a state contract with a shop near by who gives us some smoking good deals on the M&P AR line. Several officers have ordered and have been extremely satisfied! My partner just ordered the M&P15T for $1,140!!! For that price several other officers are also jumping on board. The wait, from what I was told today, is approximately 30-60 days. This is not bad considering other companies, such as Rock River Arms, are saying 4-16 weeks. I will keep you guys up to speed on the quality of the gun. So far everything looks very promising for the new Smith line.