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cjd3
26 April 2016, 20:04
So some idiot posted a deal on a scope, and I fell for it. Lock, stock and a smoking barrel. Now I need a non QD, non condiment, mount. I know someone had good luck with an Aero, but can't find the post. Any other good mounts that don't start with a G I should look at? Thanks folks.

DeviantLogic
26 April 2016, 21:27
Seekins has some new cantilever mounts coming out that look good. Cost is about halfway between a PEPR and a UniMount.

BoilerUp
26 April 2016, 21:46
Granite Ridge Outfitters has the Aero mounts on sale: http://www.graniteridgeoutfitters.com/Aero-Precision-Ultralight-30mm-Scope-Mount-SPR-Anodized-Black-APRA210600.htm

Josh S.
26 April 2016, 22:20
Not sure what your budget is, but I've heard nothing but good things about AADMOUNT. I've wanted to try one for a while now but haven't had a reason to, nor the money. [BD]

http://shop.aadmount.com/AADMOUNT-30mm-AADMOUNT30GIII.htm

mustangfreek
27 April 2016, 01:06
Seekins has some new cantilever mounts coming out that look good. Cost is about halfway between a PEPR and a UniMount.

Humm first I've heard..any pics? Or a link


OP I run a aero mount and after mounting have found it works good for the price.A few T&E reviews of them in that section

DeviantLogic
27 April 2016, 01:46
Humm first I've heard..any pics? Or a link

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/l/t31.0-8/12901195_982220281860804_2364050396872078930_o.jpg

Their facebook page has quite a few shots of 'em. Can also check out this short youtube clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaNYDTfvBHo. SWFA appears to have them in stock for $189.

Also...these look eerily similar to the new Vortex extended cantilever mounts. ;)

mustangfreek
27 April 2016, 02:11
Thanks.. Nice looking mount
I was guessing lower on the price, especially it being a non QD mount..

schambers
27 April 2016, 04:39
Not sure on the price but Badger, NF, Leupold, all major optics manufacturers make mounts.

I may also have an extra mount lying around if you are interested.

BoilerUp
27 April 2016, 06:35
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/l/t31.0-8/12901195_982220281860804_2364050396872078930_o.jpg

Their facebook page has quite a few shots of 'em. Can also check out this short youtube clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaNYDTfvBHo. SWFA appears to have them in stock for $189.

Also...these look eerily similar to the new Vortex extended cantilever mounts. ;)

That looks great, but the price point is too close to the Bobro for me to really consider it. If those sold for between $100-$120 then it could be compelling. For non-QD mounts, the prce, weight, and lug design of the Aero Precision mounts are pretty hard to beat, plus they are made in the USA. Aero get's an extra gold star for me, too, since they are local (to me).

I do agree, though, that I'd probably look to step up for a precision rig and I'd only ever use the Aero mounts on an AR, obviously.

Slippers
27 April 2016, 06:57
Aero precision mounts are flawed, in my opinion. When you tighten the rings, it causes the scope to rotate. Part of this is caused by the pivot point being at the top, but it's also a sign that the pressure exerted by the rings on the scope tube is uneven.

The reason the Aero mounts are so cheap is that they're made from an extrusion, and require much less machining than the top end one-piece mounts like Badger, Geissele, Seekins, Nightforce, etc, which are machined from solid billet from start to end.

SINNER
27 April 2016, 07:22
I agree with Slippers 100% on the Aero mounts. Trying to guess the rotation is almost impossible when mounting the optic. If they were tapped and threaded top and bottom they would be much better.

I also had issues with fairly heavy 1-4 on one and it walked repeatedly on a Sig 556. Being a 10" barrel'ed piston gun it does have a sharp recoil and it likely contributed to the problem. Never had issues on a .300 BO but that was with 99% subs.

rob_s
27 April 2016, 08:59
Aero precision mounts are flawed, in my opinion. When you tighten the rings, it causes the scope to rotate. Part of this is caused by the pivot point being at the top, but it's also a sign that the pressure exerted by the rings on the scope tube is uneven.

The reason the Aero mounts are so cheap is that they're made from an extrusion, and require much less machining than the top end one-piece mounts like Badger, Geissele, Seekins, Nightforce, etc, which are machined from solid billet from start to end.

Any suggestion on a mount/rings that is similar in weight to the Aero but better in terms of construction?

My attraction to the Aero is not the price but the weight, as I find most of the other mounts to be over-built for a 5.56 AR.

Slippers
27 April 2016, 09:05
Nightforce. The new Geissele mounts are fairly light, too.

Edit: The NF unimounts are 4-5 oz depending on height. It looks like the Geissele super precision are around 7 oz, similar to the Badger recon unimount, which are both quite overbuilt. I personally use the Badger mounts, but get them for free, so I can look past the weight. Plus I run heavy optics, so the mount is the least of my worries.

Jerry R
27 April 2016, 09:32
I did a lot of looking since I need something that will mount a large ocular over BUIS in 30mm. I am on the "Notify List" for a Geissele SR-25 / AR-10 in 30mm with the 1.13" cantilever. It has a 1.54" height; not a lot over the 1.5" standard, but enough to clear the SIG factory rear sight. No one seems to have them in stock, and street pricing looks like MSRP so I will wait out Geissele. I've got some time. It will be on a 12.5" 308 SBR holding a USO 1-8x. Scope is in hand, SBR has been Form-4 'ed and should clear in September. I will wait. If anyone sees one (black 0 MOA 7075-T6) let me know. [pop]

SINNER
27 April 2016, 14:45
Any suggestion on a mount/rings that is similar in weight to the Aero but better in terms of construction?

My attraction to the Aero is not the price but the weight, as I find most of the other mounts to be over-built for a 5.56 AR.

In addition to the Nightforce mounts, Warne and JP make a good quality mount IMO. Vortex has some nice options also.

BoilerUp
27 April 2016, 16:54
Disclaimer: I don't operate.

I agree that mounting a scope in the Aero mount takes a bit of trial and error, but to fair a scope can/will rotate in a traditional set of rings when tightening down the screws (it's just easier to mitigate by hopping side to side in small increments).

I have a Swaro Z3 mounted in an Aero mount on my heaviest recoiling AR (6.8 SPC) and it's been flawless and I have no problem recommending them with the caveat on installation. Admittedly, this is my hunting rig so it doesn't get heavy use but I do take it into the field so in some respects its my only set up that gets "real" use. While there are valid points against the design (and it does seem like Aero should just switch to standard split rings and put this to bed), I don't think there is anything negative to say about their "construction". One item on the "pro" column for the Aero design is the machined-in recoil lugs and the use of recessed Torx screws to secure to the rail (no big "tactical nuts" sticking out). Several of the mounts at this price point just use the locking screws as the lugs.

I was initially attracted to the Aero mount by their light weight. My Swaro + Aero mount combo comes in under a pound. They're obviously not the perfect solution for every situation, but if weight or price are top priorities they should bubble up pretty close to the top of the list for consideration. I haven't found a sub-$100 mount I'd prefer.


https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-69BQtt2/0/X2/i-69BQtt2-X2.jpg

The FNG
27 April 2016, 20:05
LaRue makes one hell of a mount. I have 3 of them. If you are dead set on a non QD mount, they have a bolt on option that is magnificent and it'll save you some money as well. To top it off, they'll give you some Dillo dust!


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mustangfreek
28 April 2016, 00:40
Aero precision mounts are flawed, in my opinion. When you tighten the rings, it causes the scope to rotate. Part of this is caused by the pivot point being at the top, but it's also a sign that the pressure exerted by the rings on the scope tube is uneven.

The reason the Aero mounts are so cheap is that they're made from an extrusion, and require much less machining than the top end one-piece mounts like Badger, Geissele, Seekins, Nightforce, etc, which are machined from solid billet from start to end.

Again totally same that I have noticed with the aero mount, frickin thing kept twisting and would have to anticipate it to the best and still have to do it a few times, again meaning something is pulling/pushing at an uneven pressure..it works but wish they would make a top mount as said.

Cotton68spc
28 April 2016, 04:05
I like the recon 30 from American Defense


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Slippers
28 April 2016, 11:30
I like the recon 30 from American Defense


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I have not had great experiences with ADM. I hate the fact that the clamp is either too tight or too loose, and their ring design leaves much to be desired. The rings are not part of the base, at all, and float until tightened down. They left marks on one of my NF scopes despite using their recommended torque.

Joelski
28 April 2016, 11:58
Shit, my "cheapie" Vortex isn't sounding so bad now! It's not mega bucks, but it doesn't have any of the problems listed in this collection of recommended mounts..

Slippers
28 April 2016, 13:00
Shit, my "cheapie" Vortex isn't sounding so bad now! It's not mega bucks, but it doesn't have any of the problems listed in this collection of recommended mounts..

People recommend their current favorite, so I wouldn't take it as a recommended list like consumer reports. :)

alamo5000
28 April 2016, 13:23
Granite Ridge Outfitters has the Aero mounts on sale: http://www.graniteridgeoutfitters.com/Aero-Precision-Ultralight-30mm-Scope-Mount-SPR-Anodized-Black-APRA210600.htm

Smoking good deal there.

alamo5000
28 April 2016, 13:27
Aero precision mounts are flawed, in my opinion. When you tighten the rings, it causes the scope to rotate.


True. Pain in the ass to get right, but once you're there it seems to work pretty good.

mustangfreek
28 April 2016, 13:45
When I had a adm I noticed they same as slippers said, not a big deal but s little fumbling around with

I haven't seen or tried a couple that look good of course bobro has a good rep, also the Midwest ones look Allright..

Oops sidetracking from fixed to QD mounts..lol I'd like to try the MI mount someday

cjd3
28 April 2016, 18:29
Thanks guys for the great insight. I jumped on the Aero prior to this thread get so big so fast. So a plethora of good info here. We'll see if I made a mistake down the road, and we'll see how long it takes to get it level. Good thing I'm patient, well mostly.

cjd3
1 May 2016, 22:58
Less than 5 minutes of twisting, and I got the scope leveled. I will say my first impressions of the mount is that it is light, but it doesn't have the beefiness of the other mounts listed. I would think it will do fine for me for the moment, and perhaps I can invest in a heavier mount, but so far so good. Thanks for the input fellas. On a side note, The rings are true, the lapping kit conical alignment rods meet right up. If that wasn't the case, I'd be sending it back and getting some thing different.