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alamo5000
14 June 2016, 18:23
My momma always taught me to share...so here goes. About a 5 minute drive from my house is an old lady with about 850 acres or so and she has a major pig problem. Pretty much they have even gone up into her yard and flower beds and everything so she's pretty pissed about it. I haven't gone over yet but my friend works over there and pretty soon I will go formally ask permission to go over and shoot hogs. From all accounts I will be neck deep in hogs with all the permission I need to shoot em day or night. That said I still need to scope out the property and formally ask but so far it's all sounding good. By second hand accounts I already have permission.

If things go well on our hog eradication mission I was thinking to maybe have a WEVO hog hunt. It would pretty much be bring your own guns and ammo and not many frills. But if you are coming from out of state bringing an SBR is up to you. If you are out of state no worries because there is no hunting license needed. Just basically bring yourself and some ammo and that's it.

Depending on how many people (if any) show interest I might be able to round up some local accommodations but don't expect anything too fancy. If you want to stay at a motel or hotel in town that is about 15-20 miles away so if you don't drive in you might need to rent a car for a couple days.

I've never really organize anything like this so I don't know what direction to really take. We don't have a helicopter but I have access to airplanes and pilots who could in turn get us a helicopter (maybe). I am not sure all the laws around that but at very least they might be able to fly over and direct us to the pigs...otherwise it might just be a good old trial and error old school on foot method.

Everything is extremely NOT organized at all so if you have questions I may or may not know the answer. I am thinking if we get 2 or 3 people to make 4 people groups for weekend hunts that might work out. 850 acres is pretty big but I can't guarantee if we would be on the hogs or not so at very least treating it as a getaway to do some shooting would be fine. If we get hogs we get hogs if not we just can enjoy shooting and hanging out.

Considering everything would be free you can't complain too much. (free except if you want special stuff like helicopters or airplanes, your ammo, maybe some food or sundry items, pig bait or whatever... and of course you getting here)

Before I go full on and try to do much of anything I am seeing how much interest there would be. She pretty much doesn't care if I go over but if I want to take friends I need to ask. We could either try to do it in one big group (which I don't know if that's a good idea or not for safety reasons) or if we can have smaller groups of 3 or 4 people. If it's small groups if people are willing to sleep in sleeping bags on the floor or whatever (in the AC) we might be able to put people up for a weekend, but like I said all that is TBD depending on interest.

At this point all I know is 5 minutes from me down a dirt road there is 850 acres overrun by pigs and the land owner wants them all off of there and she doesn't care how that happens.

Any comments, ideas, suggestions, thoughts, or whatever post em below.

SINNER
14 June 2016, 18:54
I'll be driving down to Marfa in January for a aoudad hunt. If we can put something together I will cover any costs including your ammo.

UWone77
14 June 2016, 19:00
If I can swing it, this would be the shizzle.

Future hunts with a Helicopter and NV would put it over the top. [:D]

alamo5000
14 June 2016, 20:21
I'll be driving down to Marfa in January for a aoudad hunt. If we can put something together I will cover any costs including your ammo.

Marfa is 9 hours one way from me. You can fly to France faster than you can get to Marfa. LOL

I do have to say that we probably cannot do these pig hunts during deer season because parts of the property are for a deer lease.

I will take your post as an 'I'm in' though LOL


If I can swing it, this would be the shizzle.

Future hunts with a Helicopter and NV would put it over the top. [:D]

We will have to look around and see if we have people that would let us borrow NV or IR. That gear is too rich for my blood.

Just having one or two people out would not be a problem. It would just be a simple hunt though. They are starting to try and trap em and do all sorts of things...but simple is still fun :)

In the next week or two I will go over and try to take a tour of the property. My part of TX is very covered in trees so helicopter hunting might be more difficult. I will ask around about how the laws are for shooting from an aircraft... I simply don't know. But getting an airplane or helicopter shouldn't be a problem if you're willing to pay for that (not cheap). I do think hunting from the air at night though is illegal. I think I read that they have to be after dawn and before dusk.

Anyway accomodating one or two people wouldn't be a problem. You guys might have to sleep on my parent's sofa or something or in sleeping bags on the floor but it would be comfortable.

I hopefully will start working again sometime soon so once I am more aware of the situation it will be easier to plan. (IE pick a long weekend or whatever) but long story short I will do my best to sort it all out so a few of you can come over.

For me it's very informal. 4pm... 'I'm bored'.... so I go over open the gate and drive around or stalk or chase or do whatever and shoot some pigs until dark.

There are local companies that offer a lot more formal hunts (even helicopter hunting) but the cost is kind of high.

Also I have access to a 1,400 yard range so if you've ever wanted to stretch out your long guns we could do that too.

I will see how many more people would be willing to come over but I will try to make something happen if I can.

If I start working soon I am thinking Friday night, Saturday and Sunday would be alright... then I could show you guys around or whatever but like I said I've never organized a hunting party.

alamo5000
14 June 2016, 20:36
If I can swing it, this would be the shizzle.

Future hunts with a Helicopter and NV would put it over the top. [:D]

That said, anything you can round up... MP5...machine guns, silencers, night vision, infared... if you can think it, dream it, and afford it, you can shoot a pig with it.

About 30-45 minutes from me (North) there is a guy that runs aerial pig hunts. Up there the terrain starts to open up some more (less wooded)...

Aragorn
14 June 2016, 20:45
Where would it take place? And when? I'm up at the top of the DFW area.

Unfortunately my primary AR is down atm (THANKS BCM!! -.- ) but I could grab my wife's 14.5", though it would need re-zeroed.

Joelski
14 June 2016, 20:49
Think about a plan to dispose of carcasses early on. Lots of landowners eagerly gave permission to careless hunters who left their kills where they fell, not really cementing repeat invites.

alamo5000
14 June 2016, 21:06
Where would it take place? And when? I'm up at the top of the DFW area.

Unfortunately my primary AR is down atm (THANKS BCM!! -.- ) but I could grab my wife's 14.5", though it would need re-zeroed.

It's a pretty loose schedule as in... there is no schedule. I don't have a job yet (but hopefully that changes soon)...

For you to come down would be pretty easy actually. Just about 2 hours south on 45 and you're in the area.

Once I get full blown permission to do this stuff from the land owner then we can do it pretty much any time that isn't deer season. And of course when/if I start working again that would have to be taken into consideration.

Doing something for a day or two at a time would be super fun and pretty easy to work up...but I just think in my mind that if people come from far away they might get bored waiting around for me to get off work or whatever.

I mean for me I can go over any day no problem but trying to sort all that out when other people are coming... I don't really know. At this point and time I just thing it might be a 'drop in for the weekend' kind of thing...

Again no guarantee of pigs but reports are that they are pretty thick.

I will have more info later on once I can actually scope the place out. If I could find someone with NV or IR or whatever that would make night hunting a lot of fun. It would open up nights for sure.

alamo5000
14 June 2016, 21:09
Think about a plan to dispose of carcasses early on. Lots of landowners eagerly gave permission to careless hunters who left their kills where they fell, not really cementing repeat invites.

We can either eat em or we can dig a hole and bury them. We have a front end loader. But really I don't know if she cares. They are causing so much damage and killing trees and whatever she just doesn't care. So long as we haul them off far enough away from the house that she can't smell em it should be fine.

Disposal of a pig isn't really a problem....

And for me to go out there is nothing. It's easy. But trying to round up others and make a schedule and all that... that's where it gets complicated.

SINNER
14 June 2016, 21:11
Where in Texas are you? I'm driving 1,700 miles to get there.

alamo5000
14 June 2016, 21:15
Where in Texas are you? I'm driving 1,700 miles to get there.

I am about half way between Houston and Dallas.

alamo5000
14 June 2016, 21:15
Where in Texas are you? I'm driving 1,700 miles to get there.

1700 miles? Damn. Where are you coming from? Alaska?

SwissyJim
14 June 2016, 21:33
1700 miles? Damn. Where are you coming from? Alaska?

No, that would be me! ;)

My wife informed me the other week that for my 50th BD she wants to send me on a helicopter hog hunt, but I'm kinda balking at the money. Something like this might be a little more do-able...

alamo5000
14 June 2016, 21:41
No, that would be me! ;)

My wife informed me the other week that for my 50th BD she wants to send me on a helicopter hog hunt, but I'm kinda balking at the money. Something like this might be a little more do-able...

Moneybags... Um I mean Uwone seems like he really wants to hunt from the air :)

More power to you guys. Its fun and all but shooting from a moving platform at a moving target through a very stiff rotator wind...that is a whole different skill. Ammo costs to do that successfully are going to be astronomical. It would be like trying to shoot a moving target from a boat on a choppy lake.

Just driving up on em and having people bail out of the back of the truck and unload on em... or do a driveby or whatever... that is good fun right there if you get a good group. I haven't been hog hunting in forever...

Again this is absolutely NOTHING formal. It's just something free (for me) and if people can come they come. I can't make promises about anything.

First thing I need to do though is figure out this whole damn job thing and if she will let me take other people out there or not.

SwissyJim
14 June 2016, 21:49
Best thing about this is brining my own weapon... guided places have you use their stuff. My biggest problem would be... bringing Mr.Giggles? 458Socom? Mr.Giggles, btw, is my Saiga12 reworked and tweaked by Tromix Corp to run flaaaaaaawlessly. Something about a 20 round drum of slugs that makes people giggle [wow]

alamo5000
14 June 2016, 21:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFrYklOUXgc

DeviantLogic
15 June 2016, 02:11
I'd be happy to help out your neighbor with her hog problem :) Might give me a reason to get some more gear I've been lusting after. Grew up in DFW, family in Houston...made that trip a few times.

gatordev
15 June 2016, 04:17
Moneybags... Um I mean Uwone seems like he really wants to hunt from the air :)

More power to you guys. Its fun and all but shooting from a moving platform at a moving target through a very stiff rotator wind...that is a whole different skill. Ammo costs to do that successfully are going to be astronomical. It would be like trying to shoot a moving target from a boat on a choppy lake.



It's really not that complicated and the rotor wash doesn't really do anything to your round. There's a few tricks but if you set up shooting position correctly, you can take out a lot of the induced movement.

I've said this before, but just mentioning it again... Even if legal, I would be very leery of doing a hog hunt at night from a helicopter. I just wouldn't trust the pilot not to fly me into the ground, trees, wires, or whatever else may be around, even more so if the aircraft had no stability augmentation (which most won't in the price range most can afford).

SINNER
15 June 2016, 04:46
1700 miles? Damn. Where are you coming from? Alaska?

Baltimore MD is the closest big city to me. Also driving to Idaho 3 weeks after the Expo for a elk hunt.

Next year is the New Zealand trip. Plenty of copter trips lined up there since in the area we are hunting there are more privately held helicopters than cars. They also have a Canadian goose infestation and apparently they fly over the flocks and drive them with the copters. Can't wait for that trip.

Aragorn
15 June 2016, 10:33
2.5 hours or so isn't bad at all. I'd be willing to make it down at some point if it all works out.

alamo5000
15 June 2016, 18:16
Holy shitballs Batman. I am here right now touring the property. I have my SBR and two 30 round mags. I've seen a dozen deer but I'm camped out waiting for some pigs to show up. There are several prime time good spots here. Wow.

I got the gate code and permission to come out any time I want day or night with anything and anyone I want to bring.

Oh snap!

But this is going to be a really big job. We could easily have 4 or 5 hunters no problem if you're hunting from a blind or whatever.

I didn't even get to see all of it. Just a small part of it and dayum.

It's dusk so I'm going to try and kill some today but we are going to start baiting them too.

This is just insane.

alamo5000
15 June 2016, 18:17
Also thermal would be extremely useful here. Like extremely useful.

Aragorn
15 June 2016, 18:23
Yes. In.

Gotta find time though. :/

But still in.

Joelski
15 June 2016, 18:24
Gonna need a pretty big hoe for that hogpit, killer. [:D]

Bacon smoked over a feral pig funeral pyre!

alamo5000
15 June 2016, 18:43
The lady saw my gun with the short barrel and suppressor and asked "is that thing even legal?!" Quickly followed up by "I don't care. Just kill all the damn hogs!"

It's getting dark and no sign of a piggy yet. YET. I have all night just so long as I can see to shoot.

alamo5000
15 June 2016, 18:48
I'm sitting here looking at deer. They are all over the place.

alamo5000
15 June 2016, 19:55
I didn't see any pigs but I heard some in the thicket. It was very thick and brushy.

It got so dark that I could not even see to identify anything. I will probably go back Friday night...but next time I go I will take a giant spotlight. It will make life easier for sure. I could then hunt out there all night.

I wish I had a second Recce 5. That way I could have both ARs up and ready. SBR would be good for some things, but not others.

I am going to have to think through the best ways to approach this place. Initial thoughts are that if you hunt off a stand and just wait for the pigs to show up that might be the best option. When it dries up some and there isn't mud a foot deep there are other possible things to do as well (maybe).

But if we can bait em in that would be another option. Hell those pigs are coming right up in her back yard like 100 feet from her door. Completely destroyed the lawn. Technically we could sit on the back porch in lawn chairs and kill a half dozen hogs...

Like I said though, I am going to have to explore a lot more and figure out some ways to approach the place considering the limited gear I have.

I was in shorts, sandals and a t shirt and I could have shot 10 deer in broad daylight with a T2 and a 10.5.... but obviously, not only no, but hell no. (I'm not going to be poaching). BUT it was nice as HELL to sit out there.... damn man.... I am going to be testing all sorts of ways to get the piggies... I will also finally be able to test the flash suppression... I've never been shooting at night actually but that's about to change.

Anyway if anyone is coming this direction let me know and I will see about getting you on some pigs. It won't be a fancy thing and you might have to entertain yourselves until about 5pm.... but then we can do all nighters on the weekend if we want.

mustangfreek
16 June 2016, 02:16
Sounds hella fun and me and my son were just talking about hunting hogs the other day..

Wish o wasn't so far away or id stay And hang out

tact
18 June 2016, 00:28
I'll be driving down to Marfa in January for a aoudad hunt. If we can put something together I will cover any costs including your ammo.

Actually in Marfa or further south like Presidio?

BoilerUp
18 June 2016, 06:00
Roughly which part of the state? Anywhere close to the hill country? My wife's family has a fishing cabin on the Colorado River outside of Lampassas that I make it too once a year or so, usually in March or April. It would be fantastic to tag on a day trip and then maybe bring a hog back to the cabin and do a little fishing while it roasts.

alamo5000
18 June 2016, 08:17
Roughly which part of the state? Anywhere close to the hill country? My wife's family has a fishing cabin on the Colorado River outside of Lampassas that I make it too once a year or so, usually in March or April. It would be fantastic to tag on a day trip and then maybe bring a hog back to the cabin and do a little fishing while it roasts.

Lampasas is about 2.5 hours from me. Its easily doable for a day trip. I am north of Houston in between Dallas and Houston. Depending on which direction you are coming from it would be pretty easy to route through here. Anything from North of Texas or the East Coast and it might add an hour to route through here on your way in or out.

As for right now I can take anyone out there but the hunts are not organized at all in anyway and supplies are somewhat limited. I mean they got nothing in way of hunting equipment. I need to get game cameras, feeders, possibly some hog traps, motion sensors, or whatever. Heck even half a dozen game cameras alone will give me some idea of where they are running.

It's just me and I only have one 4wd buggy so that's a lot of work. I still want to see a property map so I can know what all I am dealing with. I am seriously thinking now that I need some thermal imaging too.

My only slight concern though is that the people that pay for the deer lease don't start complaining. My understanding is they have it for hunting deer during deer season and that's it... but they all live like 2+ hours away in the city and I am 5ish minutes away so they couldn't do much anyway as far as day to day management or to figure all this stuff out.

alamo5000
18 June 2016, 08:58
Here is a map of roughly where I am. This is not at all exact but it should give you a better idea.

I still plan to try and host people if I can... passing through for a day or two... no problem... but there is a lot of work still involved to set all this stuff up.

Once I get a job it won't be as bad going out buying small things here or there.

Farva
18 June 2016, 15:13
This okie might have to make a trip down


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SINNER
20 June 2016, 11:19
Actually in Marfa or further south like Presidio?

You are correct. Outside Presidio by about 20 miles is where the ranch is.

tact
20 June 2016, 11:34
You are correct. Outside Presidio by about 20 miles is where the ranch is.

They are quite a few, and even some Markhor. Good luck.

Txfilmmaker
20 June 2016, 12:00
As you know, I'm just down the road. Maybe an hour or so. [emoji41]


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alamo5000
20 June 2016, 13:46
As you know, I'm just down the road. Maybe an hour or so. [emoji41]


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What I am doing now is setting out bait and later on once I get some game cameras I will try to observe what is going on in regards to the pigs. I mean people are more than welcome to come on out and sit out in the woods but there is no promise of success. 850 acres is a lot of land and trying to figure out patterns of movement and where they are at and all that is not really a small task. Once I get an idea if it's 20 pigs or 100 pigs and kind of get a better lay of the land it will be a lot easier to take someone out. But again if you want to sit out in the woods for a few hours you're not hurting my feelings a bit. But to proactively catch them and track them down is a whole different story.

mustangfreek
21 June 2016, 02:30
Baltimore MD is the closest big city to me. Also driving to Idaho 3 weeks after the Expo for a elk hunt.

Next year is the New Zealand trip. Plenty of copter trips lined up there since in the area we are hunting there are more privately held helicopters than cars. They also have a Canadian goose infestation and apparently they fly over the flocks and drive them with the copters. Can't wait for that trip.

Sweet, besides geese what are you gonna be hunting down under?..lol..man I'm jealous of you guys and the places and fun you get to have..shooting paper and such gets boring real quick..nothing to do up in my rock of the woods


What I am doing now is setting out bait and later on once I get some game cameras I will try to observe what is going on in regards to the pigs. I mean people are more than welcome to come on out and sit out in the woods but there is no promise of success. 850 acres is a lot of land and trying to figure out patterns of movement and where they are at and all that is not really a small task. Once I get an idea if it's 20 pigs or 100 pigs and kind of get a better lay of the land it will be a lot easier to take someone out. But again if you want to sit out in the woods for a few hours you're not hurting my feelings a bit. But to proactively catch them and track them down is a whole different story.

Sounds like a fun time, also sounds like some kind of jeep/beater or razor like vehicle would be good out there also some dogs would help..

BoilerUp
21 June 2016, 05:33
Alamo,
I'm definitely interested in making a day trip next Spring. Frankly, I'm happy to just spend a day walking around. I've got access to about 20-25 acres of hill country behind the aforementioned fishing cabin, but I haven't been able to confirm the presence of javelina. There is a big ranch I drive by on the way in and I need to figure out if I can get access to that.

Mustang, you need to get out more. WA is an outdoor/sportsman's paradise. You've got a ton of amazing options within a 2 to 8 hour drive.

mustangfreek
22 June 2016, 02:19
What options?

No cool pig hunting or such? Wish I had some hookups that needed some rodent population control or similar..

Just no good long ranges in my neck of the woods without driving a half day and hard to do at this time

BoilerUp
22 June 2016, 06:07
What options?

No cool pig hunting or such? Wish I had some hookups that needed some rodent population control or similar..

Just no good long ranges in my neck of the woods without driving a half day and hard to do at this time

No pig hunting here, that's true, and you do have to put in some time on the road to put some distance between you and Seattle. But the elk hunting in Texas sucks and their deer are scrawny. Once you leave the populated area of the Puget Sound, the rest of WA is pretty darn "rural", so yes, you do have to drive a bit for it. But you also have to understand that in Texas, a 2 hour drive can be considered "next door". People in Seattle complain about having to drive "all the way" to the other side of town. I don't think they realize how small Seattle is compared to most major cities.

One of the advantages WA has over Texas is that we have a ton of public land that is open to the public for hunting. In Texas, you generally have to either own your own land, know somebody with land, or find a "hunting lease". If you want some open land for long range shooting, there is a ton of public land out east of Ellensburg. And if you really want to get away from people, head out to Ferry County. Go here: http://apps.wdfw.wa.gov/gohunt/ and select the "public/tribal lands" layer on the BaseMap in the top right corner.

alamo5000
22 June 2016, 07:32
Sounds like a fun time, also sounds like some kind of jeep/beater or razor like vehicle would be good out there also some dogs would help..

We have a razor type vehicle. But I only have one... it would be just about impossible to get back in there without something like that.


Alamo,
I'm definitely interested in making a day trip next Spring. Frankly, I'm happy to just spend a day walking around. I've got access to about 20-25 acres of hill country behind the aforementioned fishing cabin, but I haven't been able to confirm the presence of javelina. There is a big ranch I drive by on the way in and I need to figure out if I can get access to that.

Closer to time we will try to work something out. So far I have two places that I can go to... one is the 550 acre ranch and that has a dedicated rifle range to 1400 yards...but he might not let anyone hunt out there because he does that for a business. He has a bunch of exotic game out there. Then again he might just say 'go on a shoot a few!'.... I haven't asked yet.

But we could possibly get in some long range shooting there. Normally I go out there when no one else is around so the 'schedule' is more like 'is anyone out there? No? Be right over'


But you also have to understand that in Texas, a 2 hour drive can be considered "next door".

This is extremely true. We drive an hour or more to out to eat dinner. Driving an hour or two through the countryside you can cover a lot of turf. In the city (like Houston) it's a pain in the ass but people do it.

Aragorn
23 June 2016, 12:20
Yeah I'm up north of Dallas, and just crossing the city alone will add a good hour. Past that it should be smooth sailing.

alamo5000
23 June 2016, 12:41
Yeah I'm up north of Dallas, and just crossing the city alone will add a good hour. Past that it should be smooth sailing.

If you left in 'off times' to avoid traffic you can do it in less than 3 hours.

Basically we have two things that we could do... long range shooting or we can they to catch or kill pigs which may or may not happen. That's why they call it 'hunting' [BD].... The whole pig thing needs some more work and investment but it's there so if nothing else we can sit out in the woods as long as we like.

SINNER
27 June 2016, 04:29
They are quite a few, and even some Markhor. Good luck.

I was down there 2 years ago and had one of the best trips of my life. Addicted to Texas hunting now. Lol

Shot this Auodad at a little over 400 yards with a .338 Lapua.

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Sweet, besides geese what are you gonna be hunting down under?..lol..man I'm jealous of you guys and the places and fun you get to have..shooting paper and such gets boring real quick..nothing to do up in my rock of the woods..

Going for the NZ slam. Red stag, Sika deer, Tahr, and Chamois.

And I disagree with the Texas deer being small.

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mustangfreek
2 July 2016, 01:14
Nice looking buck and hairy sheep phuck er...lol

Boiler up- thanks for the info , when I was much younger lived just east of E burg and many places but it's changed since then have to really know where you are or know people still..and that's still a 3 plus hour drive one way..and just can't get away enough or have the change to do it, have explored my area ALOT, and there are places to reach out but the other side is private land or can't get to said area..

If you know of some places do tell :)